learned that linick had opened an investigation into secretary of state, mike pompeo. the move comes as most states are reopening this morning, in some limited capacity, even as covid-19 cases rise around the country. parts of upstate new york are starting to open, although the southern part of the state, which is one of the hardest hit places in the world by the pandemic remains closed until the end of may. >> we'll open half the regions in the state today, five regions out of ten. they are the regions that meet the numerical criteria. we are extending the new york pause order. if a region hits its benchmark at any time, regardless of the pause order, then that region can open. >> meanwhile, in ohio, patrons were so eager to head to restaurants that they congregated at midnight right as

restrictions were lifted. arizona's stay-at-home order has expired, and the state is now opening at limited capacity including water parks and gyms. also out west, oregon is allowing retail stores to begin opening. in the east, maryland is letting some stores, salons, and houses of worship to reopen, even though the daily amount of new cases remains the same. in virginia, it's allowing restaurants and bars throughout most of the state to reopen, but with strict limitations. in kansas, salons are reopening, but are taking clients by appointment only among other restrictions. meanwhile, down south, mississippi is experiencing the effects of reopening, which it started doing at the beginning of the month and continues to hit record single day increases in both covid-19 cases and deaths. louisiana, which at one point had the fastest growth in new cases in the world is letting gyms, barbershops, movie theaters, and bars open.

americans are starting to react to their new normal. >> i think our new normal is going to become completely different than what we're used to, and we're all going to have to change and adapt with the times to keep ourselves safe. >> i don't think we're going to go anywhere, no virus is going to knock us out. >> the virus is still around. i think we all have to be careful, but being careful doesn't necessarily mean being locked up. it means taking some precautions, not getting involved in big crowds. staying away from people that look sick. >> i hope that people will realize the things that we take for granted in everyday life. >> meanwhile, nbc news has learned that officials involved with president trump's re-election effort are evaluating ways to hold campaign events in states that are reopening, which the president has said are, quote, going to be bigger than ever. joining me now is kimberly atkins, washington reporter for wbur and an msnbc contributor,

also former florida congressman and msnbc political contributor, david jolly. he was named executive chairman of the serve america movement. welcome to both of you. thank you for being with us. kimberly, this is exactly what a lot of public health officials are worried about, that there were some guidelines relatively loose, but guidelines nonetheless put into place in states for them to reopen and in many cases, they're opening without meeting those guideli s guidelines, a two-week decline in hospitalizations and new covid-19 cases. >> right, they open -- these are guidelines that were issued by the white house, by the trump administration that focused on having a sustained decline in infection rates before you can reopen safely, but we are seeing that that is being flouted in a lot of these cases by local officials and state officials as they seek to open up, and it's

both an economic driver here. people wanting to get back to work, wanting to restart the economy, and also a political driver here, which is sohas sor divided the debate over this virus between stay-at-home and open up. that is also being fueled by the president and his messaging. we saw him yesterday say vaccine or no vaccine, we're back. it's clear where the president stands in a lot of these local and state officials feel that that gives them that increased authority to open up regardless of whether they've met those benchmarks. >> yeah, in fact, earlier this week when senator rand paul and anthony fauci were having a disagreement in testimony, the president said he doesn't agree with fauci when it comes to schools reopening. david, we saw this case in wisconsin where the supreme court said the governor and the commissioner of health's authority is limited. we've got a similar case going on in michigan.

i guess i shouldn't be surprised, but i am surprised at the degree to which a public health crisis has become a partisan issue. >> yeah, it really has, ali. in many ways covid-19 has revealed our partisanship, not healed our partisanship. the healing of partisanship that we may have seen in challenges, national challenges of generations past simply isn't there. and your point on the wisconsin and michigan scenario is representative of that. we are seeing lawsuits filed by republican politicians against democratic politicians. it is not challenges by business leaks like state chambers of commerce against agencies responsible for administering the shutdown. these are political challenges and in many ways the politics of covid-19 have been weaponized, and so i think, look, what we will see play out -- and i do think it's unfortunate. i think it represents a very bad time in our national politics --

is you will see the intensity of partisanship on display through november. you won't see the persuasion election that you may see in the past where we've seen candidates like obama or reagan bring americans over. instead you're going to see this very intensely partisan turnout challenge between trump and biden and the down ballot candidates. the one area where democrats may go into this with a bit of a nod is there is kind of this lingering effect of the 2018 midterms where you saw particularly suburban voters, suburban women voters who had said, you know, we just don't like the direction donald trump is going. i think that narrative continues through covid-19 and probably continues into november, but trump knows that, which is why this is becoming a very intense partisan national matter. >> kimberly, let's talk about michigan. there's armed protesters there. they've been going there to the state how thuse. the governor wants to ban weaponry from the grounds of the

state house. there's actually a second amendment challenge going on in michigan, but donald trump has referred to these protesters as what'd he call them, very good people, very similar to something he said in the past. the issue is he's sort of stoking the idea that there are anti-vaxxers out there. the president has some history of sort of putting some fuel into that movement, and he's sporti spo supporting a second amendment movement combining it with the idea that the michigan has a stay-at-home order to go against the governor there, gretchen whitmer. >> yes, we have seen president trump really use cultural division. he sees the culture war as something that is advantageous to him politically. we've seen that when it came to his remarks in -- after charlottesville, which is very reminiscent of that very good people comment he made about the protesters who stormed the michigan state house, and some of these protesters were

screaming at law enforcement without their face covered. some of them were carrying confederate flags and nazi symbolism and signs that called for governor gretchen whitmer to be hanged. i mean, it was a really -- it was really shocking images coming out of that, but he sees that as a culture war. he sees these as people who want the state to open up, who want these restrictions lifted just as he does, and he's sort of enlisting that, listing them as soldiers, if you will, in this culture war because he sees that as a winning prospect for him politically. i think we will continue to see that as a lot of these swing states like wisconsin grapple with this, places like florida where we're seeing beaches that are packed and wisconsin we're seeing these bars that are full of people right after that court order. i think you will see that playing out. the difference here is the coronavirus isn't going to pick a side in this. we saw after the wisconsin

election there was an uptick in cases of the virus spreading, and if we continue to see that in a month from now, that adds a whole new dimension to this, if people are getting sicker, if more people are dying as a result of these policies, that gives the president politically a new problem. >> hey, david, i want to ask you about the fact that you're now the newly named executive chairman of something called the serve america movement. you're not planning on running a candidate in the coming election. what is the serve america movement? what's it for? >> yeah, the serve america movement a lot of people were afraid we'd be running a presidential candidate in 2020. that's not what this is about. sam is a group of current existing, republicans, democrats, independents and former who are focused on trying to inject greater competition to our politics and get a greater result. i'm indicative of somebody that aligns with s.a.m. because ali, most of my fellow never trump republicans will go right back to being a republican when

donald trump is gone. i'm not. i've left the party and i'm not going back, but i also feel liberated by rejecting partisanship, and i'm not ready to pick up the blue jersey, if you will, the ideological blue jersey. but i do want to see something better, and so we do operate in the state of new york as a political party, but nationally we're a democracy reform organization focused on increasing competition for both parties through undoing partisan gerrymandering, stopping state support of closed partisan primaries, addressing money in politics. at the end of the day, ideology is important to a lot of voters, but a lot of voters just want a government that works, that appeals to a cross partisan coalition. covid-19 is a perfect example. it was a missed opportunity by an unfit administration and the distracted congress. it wasn't missed intelligence. we need better. s.a.m. hopes to fill that gap, not in creating a moderate

ideology coalition but creating a coalition around a government that works. i'm excited about being with s.a.m. >> there's no reason why our ideologies need to shift. there's a lot of reason why our ability to work with each other needs to shift. can you imagine if americans could make a choice between two candidates running in their district based on the merits of that candidate, not based on the fact that they're wedded to an ideology that can't move. thank you for doing that. good to see you as always. washington reporter for wbur, david jolly now executive chairman. the house passed the coronavirus relief proposal, which is worth $3 trillion. 1,815 page act. it's called the heroes act. it includes another round of payments of up to $1,200 per person and billions in aid for state and local governments battling covid-19. one republican voted for the bill, 14 democrats voted against it, despite house approval.

senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is opposed to the plan. president trump says it is dead on arrival. with me now is new jersey congressman frank poe loallonpa. he's one of the bill's sponsors and drafted the health care portion. congressman, good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. good to see you too. >> congressman, let me ask you about this. you had a number of democrats working against this. you've got almost every republican against it. you've got mitch mcconnell against it. you've got the president against it. what's the issue here? should we think about this as an opening salvo for the next round that's coming from democrats in congress so that either mitch mcconnell or as in the last case, treasury secretary mnuchin has something to negotiate against? >> i think that's a fair analysis. in other words, democrats and certainly i feel that we have to do a lot more, particularly if we want to reopen the economy as you pointed out, you know, the economy's already starting to

reopen, but it really shouldn't reopen unless we have things in place. for example, a national testing plan, contact tracing, ways to isolate people, and if you don't move forward and provide funding for states and also for people who have lost their jobs, then i don't think the economy comes back. so this is an effort to, you know, point out what we think should be, and i assume there will be negotiations with mcconnell and the president as we move forward. >> what do you think is in common -- in other words, if we fast forward a week or however long this takes, there are a number of american businesses that are failing as we speak and have definitely said they will fail in short order. there are hospitals that are in trouble. there are states who cannot run deficits or print money like the federal government can that are going to have to start laying off police and garbage collectors and public health people. there are individuals for whom that 12$1,200 is gone. what's the commonality?

what is the nedoes the next pha look like to you that conservatives and republicans might sign on to? >> i think most of this is a continuation of what we've already done on a bipartisan basis. for example, in the last bill we had 25 for testing and started a national testing tracing, isolation program. so this builds on that and provides another 75 billion for that, which is what's necessary and has more guidelines and benchmarks about how to do the testing and the tracing. the same is true for, you know, state and local governments. in other words, we don't want them to lay off workers, essential workers that are actually helping us deal with the virus, and we did provide 150 billion in an earlier bill. now we think we need more for that because we know a lot of states, my own state of new jersey that will have to start furloughing people if they don't get some help from the federal government. i really see it in many ways as

an expansion and continuation of what we've already done and that was done on a bipartisan basis. i think we can come to an agreement. >> the tax cuts added $1.9 trillion to the deficit over ten years. that didn't seem to trouble a lot of o'yoyour colleagues on t other side of the aisle. now there are a bunch of people who are finding religion about deficits and saying this could start to feel like too much? >> i think they're wrong. look, when we're in a situation like this where there's such high unemployment, higher than the great depression, and you know, interest rates are low, i mean, the fact of the matter is the federal government is the only level of government that can actually spend money, and you know, pay it back eventually. and if the economy doesn't grow, we're not going to be able to pay it back, so again, i don't think you should look at the total numbers.

i think you should look at what you're actually going to accomplish. look at this practically, not ideologically and say how do we get people back to work, how do we get the economy going, and then we can pay back the deficit. otherwise the deficit's only going to get worse if the economy continues to go down. >> congressman, good to see you, thank you for joining us. new jersey congressman frank pallone is the chairman of the house energy and commerce committee committee. the white house and the cdc do not see eye to eye about guidelines for reopening the country. we're going to take a look at the scaled down guidelines the cdc released this week. this is the original version i've got in my hand. we're going to see how they compare to what the president has been telling the public. that's next.

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for all that the trump administration has done to hollow out the federal government, the centers for disease control and prevention continue to play a vital role in providing accurate information to the public. with nearly every state expected

to be open for business this weekend, cdc director robert redfield has tweeted that all 12 of the forecasting models that the cdc follows predict that the u.s. is heading toward more than 100,000 coronavirus deaths by june 1st. we're at 88,000 right now, so that's not a stretch. redfield's post comes after the cdc finally released guidance on state's reopening after their original science-based guidance was shelved by the white house for being overly restrictive. it's a topic that the associated press has been reporting on exclusively and extensively. it's led to some question about the role and relationship of the cdc and the white house going forward. joining me now is kathleen sibelius, former health and human services secretary, former democratic governor of kansas and the president and ceo of resources. kathleen, good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you, ali.

>> i have in my hand here a 68-page remarkably detailed report that was prepared some time ago by the cdc. it has details on schools. it has details on faith communities, on restaurants, on child care, really, really specific detail that a whole lot of americans could have benefitted from seeing some time ago. this was shelved by the white house. this was tabled. they kept saying they're reviewing it. they wouldn't put it out there. it took reporting to get it out there. what's the point of not putting this information out there, good detailed information done by people who actually do this for a living. >> well, i don't know what the -- well, i think the point of holding it is that the white house must have felt that it would be discouraging or limiting to what they want to

do, which is push people out into an economy. i find it very troubling because the cdc, as you said, are the -- not only the national, but the international experts on epidemiology. their expertise is putting out very detailed information about what a school should do, what would be helpful in a restaurant, how to reopen an office place, what happens in a department store. all the kinds of things that people are clamoring for and that consumers then can use to evaluate whether or not to enter a place of business, whether or not to send their kids to the school, whether or not to get on an airplane. if the guidelines are being followed, then they will feel safe and secure. if the guidelines not followed, they can make a determination. but to hold that information or to sensor the information, which is really what is happening, putting out very vague, high level guidance instead of this

detailed place by place program by program information is dangerous for the public. it puts public officials at a disadvantage, and it certainly puts the american public at an extreme disadvantage because people really then don't know what to do. >> i don't know how well we can see this on tv, but i'm just going to sort of flip through the type of detail that's involved in here, like it's specific small print bullet print points on two sides of the page, whether it's churches, restaurants, things like that, i guess this begs the question, kathleen sibelius, if we've got a cdc, what's the relationship the cdc is supposed to have with the government? i don't know how many other organizations put out details like this, but it seems like we should have had this maybe two months ago or at least a month ago when we were debating how to stay open or who should stay open because this is valid scientific information. i totally understand that this

administration seems to have a fraught relationship with science and evidence based stuff, but is the cdc -- does robert redfield have a voice in the government right now, or is he like other health officials doing the bidding of the president? >> well, unfortunately, it does appear that the white house has decided that they will monitor and censor what scientists are allowed to say, when they're allowed to speak, what information they're allowed to put out. that's very, very, very dangerous. i think that i recently was with rich besser who dr. richard besser was the acting cdc director during h1n1, and he, again, explained that what the cdc does the very best. he was there for 13 years, is this kind of detailed guidance and epidemiology. they said the national framework

there, state and local leaders can make independent decisions based on what that framework looks like within their own jurisdiction, and consumers can make a decision, but what we need is the national framework. we need the canine of expertise, and if the white households its censorship, so the 67-page report that you have in your hands, ali, that was put forward to the white house. there's a clearance process. that always happens. usually the turn around would be quickly. they look for typos, they look for information, and then they find the right point to push it out. what happened this time is the white house held on to it, and what has been put out is a very different kind of document with not nearly the level of detail, and that information is being held or censored in a way that is not helpful to anybody. >> well, i would recommend that every american regardless of whether you run an organization or not, download this and read it because it is so specific and so detailed that it can inform

your own decisions about how you engage when the government's -- your state governments lift the rules. secretary, good to see you as always. thank you, kathleen sebelius is the former health and human services secretary and the former governor of kansas and the president and ceo of resources. still ahead, is president trump's personal company profiting off of taxpayers during the pandemic. we'll speak with "the washington post" reporter who broke those details next. who broke those details next sport. finally something more powerful than the funk. tide sport removes even week-old sweat odor. it's got to be tide.

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florida is among the states across the country beginning to reopen, and what's located there? trump's mar-a-lago golf course. according to an email obtained by "the washington post," the club will reopen its pools and restaurants today, and while trump said there's no money coming in because of the pandemic, new reporting from our next guest shows that's not entirely true. according to records obtained by "the washington post," the president's company got at least

$970,000 from taxpayers since taking office, which according to the analysis is the equivalent of more than four years worth of nightly rentals at trump properties. this comes as trump's attorneys say they're taking the emoluments fight with maryland and d.c. to the supreme court after an appeals court ruled that lawsuits over his washington hotel property could proceed. that's the same hotel which asked its landlord for a rent break just last month. as the "new york times" reported, the landlord determining the fate of the request happens to be mr. trump's own administration. joining me now is david farentho farenthold, a pulitzer prize winning reporter from "the washington post" covering the president's businesses and who continues to uncover these business dealings. he's also an msnbc political analyst. good to see you, david. these payments are interesting because they offer trump and his businesses as a bit of a moral question.

they -- what the government has to pay and particularly the secret service, so the trump properties can set whatever price they want? >> that's right, this is a transaction where trump basically the buyer and the seller. when he goes to his properties, his aides, his secret service agents come with him. they need to stay near him to protect him, so they're sitting ducks. they're customers. the trump organization can charge them whatever they want. the only limit is what the trump organization thinks is fair given that this is taxpayers' money. when we went looking into these, we tried to figure out the total number, which is at least $970,000, but also we tried to measure these expenditures by the trump organization's own standard. eric trump had told the world he only charged about $50 per night when the government came and stayed with his father. we looked at at least 1,600 room rentals as you saw and could not find one single example that met that definition. in every case the rates were much higher.

>> and what are the remedies for this? there have been emoluments cases right from the beginning suggesting that this is problematic on another level because the emoluments clause says you can't take money from other countries in particular or their agents for personal benefit. but what's the accountability for this? is there any? >> well, there's not the usual conflict of interest statutes. if this was the secretary of agriculture or some manager in the department of the army, they could be fired or prosecuted for steering business to their own personal properties. the president is exempt from those rules. the remedy, some people think, is constitutional. the constitution in addition to barring presidents from taking payments from foreign governments also bars them from taking payments from the u.s. government beyond his salary, and so trump has said that doesn't apply to hotel payments, and the cases that would sort of determine that, they're moving but they're moving really slowly. for now there's nothing legal stopping him from doing this.

>> david, good to see you as always, thank you for your reporting, david farenthold of "the washington post." there's a new kind of front line hero that may be emerging in the united kingdom, except this one has four legs and is known for its strong sense of smell. what covid-19 sniffing dogs could mean for air travel. to our auto policyholders through may 31st. because now, more than ever, being a good neighbor means everything. like a good neighbor, state farm is there. i thought it had to be thick to protect. being a good neighbor means everything. but new always discreet is made differently. with ultra-thin layers that turn liquid to gel and lock it inside. for protection i barely feel. new always discreet.

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world begin to lift travel restrictions, experts say the only way to prevent future outbreaks of covid-19 is to ramp up testing and identify asymptomatic carriers, people who are not displaying symptoms. right now, there is no easy way to do this, but researchers want to know if dogs can be trained to sniff out the coronavirus thanks to their sophisticated sense of salmonella. willem marx joins us live from london with more on this. is this a guess or is there a possibility that it might happen? >> reporter: ali, for centuries doctors have known that certain diseases have a certain smell associated with them, and the last 20 years or so, there's quite a strong body of evidence showing that dogs can identify specific diseases on carriers, things like tuberculosis, malaria and some forms of cancer. there's a trial that's got more than half a million dollars worth of funding from the british government trying to see if there is a specific odor

associated with covid-19 and whether these dogs that they're using in this trial can be trained to identify it. we had a chance to talk to one of the scientists involved in this effort, professor james logan. he's head of disease control at the london school of hygiene and tropical medicine. i asked him why these sniffer dogs for covid-19 might end up being useful. >> the key here is that we can screen a lot of people very quickly, and it's noninvasive. we don't need to take a sample, you know, from the mouth or blood or anything like that, and the dogs would be able to detect this from people who are passing through. so if you imagine a dog in an airport that's looking at, you know, detecting drugs and explosives walking down a line, it would be the same sort of method. and each individual dog could screen up to 250 people per hour, so we could get through a lot of people very, very quickly. >> reporter: so ali, this is still early days. that i have got at least eight weeks of trials ahead of them. they hope to know whether there is a distinctive smell associated with covid-19 by the

month of july. what's really key, though, is they expect that the dogs will be able to identify it and be able to do so early while people are not yet displaying symptoms or indeed are entirely asymptomat asymptomatic. >> willem how long do we think we can take before we figure this out because this could be ground breaking if true? >> reporter: so the plan is they'll have maybe six to eight weeks, ali, working on deciding that there is a specific scent. that's not an easy thing to do. they'll use the dogs and also laboratory machines to try to identify it. the dogs throughout that process will be training with this suspected scent of covid-19, and then it should be another couple of weeks where they can be rolled out to an airport like heathrow here in london. the plan is to essentially replicate that ability within machines so they could potentially also test for presymptomatic or asymptomatic people using shaens ing machine more wide scale. >> that's amazing. that might be something good

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or a novelist someday, but those aspirations sort of feel like they have to be on the back burner. >> it's just really tough not knowing what's next. >> as the danger of a second outbreak lingers, questions surrounding how to make reopening schools safe in the fall have emerged while others are wondering if their schools are going to open at all. california state university announced this week most fall term classes will be online for its 480,000 students across the state. oklahoma state university announced a plan to have in-person classes this fall for its 25,000 students. experts predict schools should have a better idea by july about whether campuses can safely reopen. one wisconsin college has implemented a new plan officials there say will keep their students safely on campus and minimize disruption. beloit college says its semesters will be split in half as students take half the classes. joining me now is the provost and dean of beloit college, earn

boynton. good to see you, thank you for joining me. talk to me about how your system's going to work. >> thank you very having me, ali. i appreciate it. sure, so at beloit we're looking for an innovative student-focused approach to responding to covid in the fall and next year, and it's a way of minimizing disruption and maximizing flexibility, so we're breaking the semester up into two seven and a half week modules, and that provides flexibility in terms of if we have to go online for a portion of that semester, we have a hinge point in the middle of the semester that brings students back in a natural way of allowing face-to-face teaching to go forward. but it also is a way in which we allow flexibility in terms of calendar. so we could put one module in the fall semester and three in the spring, for instance, in order to maximize on face-to-face on campus

experience for our students. it provides a lot of flexibility for us going forward. >> is it going to stretch out the amount of time students are going to take to get their degree? >> no, at a at a place like this, four years is a completely easy thing to do because it's such an intense advising situation. so students have this close advising relationship with their professors and it will not extend the time to graduation. every semester will have the same number of courses, the same load. it's broken up in these two separate modules. >> talk to me about the feedback you've been getting from students and parents about the college experience. right? for whatever college costs anybody, some part of that is the education and probably the most valuable part of that and we can figure out different ways to deliver that education in

2020 because of the internet. some part of that is the college experience. are you hearing from students and parents who are worried that their students are going to get less of a college experience? >> right. so this is an upside down road. it's a top si turvy situation and there's a way in college, its mission is student centered and relationship driven. it understands its mission as a profound investment in the social intellectual and personal well being and development of our students and this is a kind of labor intensive investment that goes far beyond content delivery. so the college will continue to offer this rich educational environment that prepares students for the future in any kind of form that our delivery takes. and the way in which the faculty has stepped up has been potent.

>> in the end, in ten years or 15 years when we look back at this, are we going to think that these students gained something from it? are they going to be -- is the class that is in there now going to be richer for the experience? >> i think that's an interesting way to approach the challenge, is that in this moment, there's a way in which the community of the students will come together and deliver this education in the way it meets the challenge and binds the community together in ways that i think will be memorable and i do believe that this will go down in history as a really interesting time for beloit in so far it's stepping forward and being a leeader across higher education regarding our module plan and i think it will shine as a moment as we demonstrate the leadership across the higher education sector. >> i teach a class at whatton

and was in the middle of that that we had to change to doing this remotely and for some of us, we hadn't really been trained to do that and i think the students did a great job and the faculty tried as hard as they can to make it a great experience but if we're going to do that in september we're going to have to learn certain skills. are you equipping the faculty to not just take the class and put it on line but do it in a way that is fruitful for the students to learn in a way that they're not used to? >> yeah, that's an excellent question. it comes from a professor. it's clear. right? so we have to make sure that we retool our courses for this new environment so we can remain focused on our mission but we have to develop our faculty in interesting ways, so this summer, about half the faculty will be involved in retooling specific courses and programs. the full company of the faculty will be taking workshops in the

summer and we've begun to build out those developments over the summer and faculty is leaning in. beloit is a student centered kind of college and faculty are leading in in preparation for this summer. fall will be some kind of hybrid. it won't be fully online or fully in person. it's going to be a hybrid situation so we have to be prepared to lean in to that kind of hybrid model and i the tell you now that the faculty is excited to turn the soil on their courses and to think about this new environment as invigorating their teaching. >> yeah, that's -- it is an opportunity for us to get better at doing things in a way that we didn't know we could do. good to talk to you. thank you for talking to us. eric boynton is the dean at provost and beloit college.

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good morning and welcome to a.m. joy. as we enter month three of the covid-19 crisis, the thing that we still collectively fear the most, what has us all or at least the sensible ones locked down to the extent we can is the fear that we'll make that one care es mistake, that one trip to the store with our mask not on properly or touch that wrong

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