stimulus payments for americans, but it's unlikely to become law. the president this week call it dead on arrival. the house also approved a rule change, letting legislators vote remotely. italy is easing travel restrictions. starting june 3rd, people will be able to travel across that country as well as internationally. it's back to the races. nascar returns this weekend. it's the first major u.s. sport to restart its season. the first race will take place tomorrow at darlington in south carolina, though without any fans. at the white house, president trump doubling down on his administration's initiative to have a vaccine available by the end of the year. experts expressing skepticism, to say the least, say anything less that much 12 to 18 months would be a medical miracle. we have a team of reporters

deployed throughout the country. we're going to first to the white house and nbc's monica alba. monica, good day to you. something else happened big time overnight. that was the president fires a state department watch dog. what is this about? >> reporter: exactly. alex, the president notified congress he wishes to remove steve linik, and democrats indicated he had opened an investigation into secretary of state mike pompeo, and a political appointee who may have been doing some personal tasks both for the secretary and hi wife. i want to read you what eliot engel said in a statement. he called this outrageous, and also indicated that this firing, amid such a probe, strongly suggests this is an snowfall act of retaliation in engle's own words. what's also striking here this is nots first of the inspector

generals. the president hayes made moves to out others since the pandemic began. and also the defense department, alex. they usually happen late at night, sometimes on a friday evening, sort of not to be in the middle of the news cycle, but noteworthy, nonetheless. >> let's go back to the president shutting down the democrats' relief package. can you bring us up to speed? >> reporter: senate republicans essential telling house democrats that the $3 trillion package is dead on arrival and will not make it into law, but it is a suggestion of where democrats wants to start from in terms every their negotiation to the next potential relief package. in that $3 trillion, there would be $1 trillion allocated to states, a sticking point up to

now, and there's a question of whether or not americans will get another round of payments. that's something that the white house has said is not a much of question of if, but when, definitely seems to be under debate. the president has indicated he wants a different thing in this package. history, because they allowed lawmakers to vote replutoly going forward, alex. >> thank you, monica. let's go to the latest in new york. we just heard governor cuomo giving his news conference. his latest update sums as parts of the state are eligible to reopen. fi five regions moving into phase one. kocoug cori, i saw a car or two passing by. what's the governor saying? >> reporter: yeah, he mentioned

two specific things, and really three. i'm going to expand on. the state leaders are looking at possibly events that can have no crowds, being allowed to move forward. as of june 1st, he's saying, for example, and horse racing, as of june 1st, the state is looking at moving forward in that, and in some counties elective surgeries are now allowed. those are new developments as of this morning's press conference. another thing he hit hard on is the state's federal budget and how far they are in the hole, touting he still needs more federal help at this point. he says the state of new york is in the hole by some $61 billion, and he urged senators to pass that bill. take a listen to what he had to say. >> the house passed the bill

yesterday, which is a smart bill, which finally provides funding for state and local governments. they funded businesses, they funded millionaires. they funded corporations, who did they forget? they forgot the police, the firefighters, the working americans. what a shock, right? >> reporter: so the governor had a very specific message to the senators today. he says, do your job and pass this bill. he said no delays, no special interests, and no corporate bailouts. he also said shame on you for any politician that's making a differentiation in lives lost between blue states and red states. he said at this point we're all american. he should not be counting the lives lost. all states need help. this is all coming a day after officially phase one starts for the five specific counties. of course, we know here in new york city they're not quite until face one yet, but you wouldn't know it, because things are quite busy with the nice

weather here. >> cori coffin, thanks very much. there's increased pressure to put new safety measures and guidelines in place. we're in a salon in charlottesville. welcome to you, amanda. i suspect the new owner has new measures in place to keep things safe, right? >> reporter: absolutely, alex. as much as virginia goes into the phase one reopening, what it means for small businesses, particularly grooming salons s. they have to implement a lot of safety measures to make sure both the workers and the guests are safe and are well taken care of when they come in for their services. here at the cutting edge, they have broken down the workers in two specific shifts only have four workers at any time. all guests that come in will receive hand sanitizer get a

touch-free temperature taken and all of the workers and guests are -- the owner told me about her hesitation but excite in reopening. take a listen to what she told me today. >> i felt prepared, but i felt stressed, because there's a big responsibility for me to do everything safely and have good sanitation and sure here doing things appropriately. customers are ready to come back. we've been getting clients who are not or normal clientele, because people are so excited to come back. >> so anna did tell me she had to furlough her entire staff in order for them to file for unemployment. they have since come back. and she tells me she's booked solid for the next three weeks. >> i can about imagine. thank you so much for that. restrictions are in place

for beach activity. tell me you're near capitola, which is just a dream spot. tell me what's the latest in compared to busy boardwalks that we have seen on the east coast. >> reporter: we're not too far from capitola. it's all one big beautiful area, alex. you can see behind me there are some people that are on the beach. that's cowell's beach near the santa cruz boardwalk. they're getting in what time they can. the restrictions here in santa cruz is that the beaches are closed between 11 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. you can go into the beach to surf. we'll talk about that in a moment. the problem is, while this county has not been terribly hard hit, it is a popular

destination for people in the bay area. the concern is those people, combined with the locals, will be too much for the beaches. so we have that restrictions here. in southern california, beaches are starting to open up again, but they are a lot of restrictions as well. no sunbathing. a lot of parking lots and trails are closed, so the beaches are such an important thing to california's existence, but they're sort of hobbled right now. getting rid of surfing in santa cruz would be more or less sacrilege, so they are letting people to cross the beach to surf. even in the water they're educating about social distancing with firefighters on jet skis reminding surfers to stay far enough apart. alex? >> wow, that's something i would like to see. scott cohn, thank you for that. joining mess is dr. ben gupta, and dr. natalie azar.

welcome to you both. as we look at more and more of these states, there's a new gallup poll to look at. it shows 58% said they're either completely orb mostly isolating themselves, but that's down from a high of 75. 68% in april said they were doing it, so dr. gupta, to you first. that includes states that have not lifted lockdowns. does that number concern you, extra extra ject story? >> they're looking at mobility data from cell phones and other sources. what they're realizing is exactly what you just said. the more people are moving, the more estimates for expected deaths. in places like north carolina

are increasing, almost quadruple the number of deaths expected in places like north carolina than even a week ago. as we have mobility, nick, as people variableably adopt common-sense policies like masks. who knows the standard on social distancing in public. >> dr. azar, how does that timeline strike you? realistic or not? >> to put it into context, i think there's two reasons why this is coming from the white house. one is that the vaccine they're specifically referring to happens to be one that's using a novel technology. there's never been a vaccine license with this particular technology before. typically when vaccine are made

they use a virus in some capacity, that's a cumbersome process and time-consuming. not to get mired into the details, but it's basically taking genetic material and manufacturing the viral protein that goes into the vaccine. that is a lot -- that's basically like a shortcut for the traditional method. the second reason they're saying this, as dr. fauci has said, they're doing it at risk. they're not rating for the phase three trial and then start manufacturing. they're basically doing that in parallel. we always are concerned that we're sacrificing safety for speed, but i think this is why they're saying that. they're using a novel technology and manufacturing them early. in spite of all that, experts who reviewed the situation think it's still probably aspirational. >> hang on. these things are going to be done simultaneously, there's no way they'll put on the millions

of doses of a vaccine that's not effective, right? >> well, that's the problem. they may get to the end of this and realize in fact it wasn't effective. that is the whole -- that is the risk. that is the whole, you know, idea of this, is that we -- they may get to the end of it and find that it is absolutely safe and efficacious and then want to have those doses ready to be sent to every single person in this country. that's the concern here. they may get to the end of it by the fall or november or december and go, gosh, you know there's a safety signal we didn't recognize here. there's some enhancement of infection when people are exposed, but they're manufacturing in spite of those

concerns, alex. >> during this period of time gup seasonal, so there may be less transmission when it's hotter and more humid. there's data suggesting the summer will give us a reprieve. does it go entirely? definitely not. the fall wave is concerning. people will let their guard down, the president will start messaging it's all gone and we're not going to wear masks, we won't implement top of line -- it's not going to be game changing and will not go away magically. >> thank for clarifying that. dr. natalie, as you well know,

in this week one of our friends and contributors, dr. joseph ferrer believes he got it through his eyes. you know, droplets landing on your eyes are just as infectious. if that's the case, do we all need to be going around wearing ski goggles or something like that? >> so, alex, i think the short answer is that we still probably think the major mode of entry will be in the nose or the mouth, with probably a smaller percentage through the eyes, but remember the ppe that health care workers are wearing includes a face mask for this precise purpose. i just started seeing patients in the office last week, we are required to wear a mask in addition to a face shield for exactly this purpose. people have said, is it realistic for people to wear goggle?

you can wear eyewear, glasses, that will at least present just a physical barrier and might revent you fr-- dr. ferrer know business and he is incredibly cautious. he was disinfecting constantly probably more than anybody i ever saw. that was the one vulnerable spot, according to him. it could have happened in another way, of course, but it certainly is a lesson and reminder to keep your hands away from your face, and that includes your eyes. >> absolutely. the way he was conducting himself, he was the model potentially patient. >> yes, he was the model. >> thank you both so much. if that $3 trillion relief bill is really dead on arrival, is there another one that could pass? what would be in that one?

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it all starts tonight. meantime california is among the many states that have started to slowly reopen. governor newsom says cases have been at a steady level the paths few weeks. steps towards reopening are moving a bit more slowly in cities with higher case counts. joining mess barbara lee. congresswoman, welcome back to the show. good to see you, my friend. your district includes oakland and berkeley, obviously two cities with a lot of commerce and great bars and restaurant and shops. i'm curious how you gauge constituent concerns about reopening and getting business back up versus safety. >> thanks. it's nice to be with you. let me take a minute to thank all our essential workers and frontline workers for their extraordinary work to keep the

country open, and also to those who have lost loved ones, my condolences. this is a very hard difficult time for so many out there, and so many who have been impacted. yes, mea district is a wonderful district, the 13th congressional district of california. we have enormous opportunities there. it's a very diverse district, but we have poverty, also, people of color, people on the front lines working day and night to keep us healthy and safe. as we reopen, i think the governor is viewing this properly. we were to be careful. so many people, first of all, are disproportionately impacted, and so many people who will be returning to work are working in conditions that may or may not be safe. so in this last bill, we put in additional funding for personal

protective equipment and for everything we need to help make this transition, but we have to balance the health impact. i'm one that believes we need to do it slowly, conservativconser. they're not coming from the white house, of course. >> it's no news to you there have been protests about these stayate home order. how much demonstration have been seen there? what do you think the motivation is behind these protests? is it purely political? my district has very compliant,

have been wearing masks, physical distancing, and have been doing everything that our health experts want us to do. we still have issues, though, with regard to our central workers, frontline workers, who don't have what they need given the nature of this pandemic. so, yes, everyone wants to get back to do -- going on with their lives the way we did before, but we just can't do that right now. so it's our leadership in my district have been very coordinated to make sure we do this in a wise way. i believe my constituents are compliant. >> so you and your colleagues in the house passed this $3 trillion bill, as we look at the number. it's called heroes. yes yesterday you heard the president say this is d.o.a.

you also have senator mcconnell saying it's an unrealistic wish list, so what is your reaction to that? >> you know, it just shows who they are, and unfortunately their values really demonstration to the public they care more about corporations and millionaires and billionaires than the people. this is a bill that make sure during this pandemic that the contact tracing, the testing, the treatment is put into place, especially where the impacts are the greatest. why in the world would the president and mcconnell not want to see us test more, especially in black and brown communities most impacted? why in the world would they not want us to help on the unemployment compensation extension through january, which

we put if more money through jan we're? why wouldn't they not want to help small businesses? why would they not want to help state governments who hire our essential workers as the states move to open up? i don't understand why they would even -- why they would resist. they have come kicking and screaming on every bill, but i applaud speaker pelosi for moving this bill forward. we have got to take care of people in this country, and we have to make sure that people survive, not only survive through the health provisions of this bill we put in, but also the economic in terms of the impact on their families. 36 million people are unemployed, and so i am just furious they would even send

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the number of people getting over the virus is rising, more than a conveyor million people have recovered here in the u.s., according to johns hopkins. more than 1.6 million people have recovered worldwide. j.c. penney has filed for bankruptcy. that company is hoping to restructure. j.c. penney will continue online sales and curbside pickups. florida governor desantis is taking steps to reopen theme parks. he asked operators to submit

reopening plans. and in mississippi, casinos will begin to reopen next week. casinos are required to maintain a 50% ups sit rate, screen guests, sanitize high-touch areas and make employees wear masks. to maryland, where the state's phase one of reopening is under way. some counties are officially open for business. for that i'm joined about ali vita vitaly. we welcome to the show. hustle and bustle out here. as i've been traveling, covering this story, week by week i sigh more cars, mo people out. today that sort of makes sense. this is the first full day where bel air has been allowed to be open. you mentioned this. maryland is one of those states that they're allowed to reopen.

you're notice a lot of people are wearing masks. another store next to us is in the process of trying to keep capacity at 50%, but at the same time they are open for business, trying to take those precautions, they're trying to distance home people --. the barbershop another example. the guy tells me his phone is ringing off the hook, because people are trying to get their haircut. the question is timing. that's the thing i asked this owner of the store behind me thought. >> i think it's right on time.

we have to see how it fields. we can't live in the fear of holding back. okay, this is not going to go away. we have to learn to live with this. i think this is the way to do it, do it cautiously. >> and, again, alex, caution is the name of the game. you can see behind me one woman just went inside. they're trying to stay at lower capacity. the stores are cleaning things, washing their hands, even setting a 30-minute timer, so the store owners know it's time to wash their hands. cautious optimism here. here's what i don't understand, how do people day drink without falling asleep by 5:00 p.m.? i guess that's a conversation we'll have to have later. >> reporter: there must be a secret to it. >> maybe that's the goal. ali, thank you. some wisconsin counties are keeping their own stay-at-home orders in place after one was

struck down by the supreme court in wisconsin. so far only nine states have reached the cdc threshold of testing required to safely reopen. so far more than 10 million tests have been done. shaquille brewster joins me from chicago. shaq, good to see you. what are you learning? >> reporter: health experts say it's testing that's the key. the trump administers said a goal of testing -- that would be about 78 millions tests a year. while i was in wisconsin this week, i visited a manufacturer working in overtime to extend testing, making part for test kids, using technology that you might have used before.

essential workers versus hard at work, churning out parts for a new covid-19 test. >> it's so easy to use. you spit in a cup, you put a cap on it, send it back. it's not that difficult. >> reporter: if it sounds familiar, it's because they made similar test kits for ancestry.com. three machines now running 24/7. eventually you'll do 28 million a year? >> yes. >> reporter: that's a lot of growth quickly. >> easily within our capacity. it's a lot of parts, but still small in the overall testing that will be required. >> reporter: it requires no swabs or ppe, which are in short supply across the globe. >> you send it back to a lab. within 24 to 48 hours, you'll know if you're testing positive for the virus or not. >> reporter: processing those results requires a lab with a

special fda emergency authorization. manufacturer spectrum solutions says it's currently working with a dozen labs, including rutgers university who developed the test. >> they're shifting to assembly the entire test kit, a kit it will use to regularly test employees. >> reporter: a release to nina dorn, she von tier to put herself at added risk, taking co-workers' temperatures before they start their shift. >> it certainly gives me more certainly whether i go home and visiting relatives. >> reporter: spectrum solutions says they're still working to make these tests available widely, but they believe through the authorization use, and their partnership with labs, they believe they'll have the tests going out increasingly by the thousands in the coming weeks, alex? >> thank you for the heads-up on

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to return fire. the family's attorney says he doesn't buy that story. police are claiming when they bust into this woman's home, they announced they were the police. is that what the family understands? >> that's not what they understand. they understand from three neighbors who were there in their apartments last night that there was no announcement. they said after the execution of brianna the next day, that they knocked and announced. just this past week, they declared they had a no-knock warrant, so they did not have to announce. so which is it? the story keeping evolving. >> three officers involved westbound placed on administrative leave. joining me now, paul hinder son, a veteran prosecutor. i do want to mention here the

police department said they needed the no-knock warrant, boo you they believed suspects were hiding drugs in taylor's home. so what is your take? >> this to me raises several issues that i think are important about evaluating what happens, and when we have these incidents that turn into a travesty. that's not the information the police gave when they first told the story of what happened. that information only came out later when it was heard from and when evidence came in from the neighbors that there was no notice given. i think the no-knock notice is controversial. there are some law enforcement agencies, including in texas, that don't use no-knock warrants because of high risks involved, and those are capaciexacerbated.

so i want to know what was in that no-knock want they used. why were there no body cameras warn? and they have body-worn cameras. it's a travesty and terrible. she's not the only victim here. her boyfriend is in custody right now facing murder charges, and it's all going to turn on whether this no-knock notice was executed in the way the police said that they executed it. he has a credible defense, if in fact they did not give notice, he was unaware. there weren't any drugs or anything illegal going on in the house, and they came in armed and he was defending himself, as he is allowed to or would be allowed to do in that state.

>> look, paul, the mayor of louisville is calling on the fbi as well as the u.s. attorney say they have to review this shooting investigation. is this the kind of oversight that's needed here going forward on this particular incident? >> i think they need more civilian oversight that's local. we have to take ownership of this kind of behavior in these types of incidents at a state level and local level. one of the things that i think is a linchpin in all of these things is the collection of data. we can't just collect data. we have to analyze the data with an outcome-oriented approach to see it's tied to policies, to training, and tied to the behaviors at a local level so we can say, yes, while you have the subjective authority to behave in this way, there isn't a separate track of justice for

african-americans and the rest of this country where people who are black are treated like weapons because of the color of their skin. those are the issues raised contextually, in a case where someone is gunned down in the middle of the night unarmed and it's another african-american due to police behavior. >> paul henderson, i have a feeling we'll have you back to talk more about this. have a good weekend. thank you so much. >> thanks so much for having me. it's a warning to america as it reopens. do people really know the risks they are possibly facing?

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of how people try to mitigate with masks and social distancing? >> well, it's an absolute certainly that when you increase interactions between people you are giving a greater opportunity for this virus to find a new body to grow in. so as we are reopening, as we're having more contacts, where there's just more opportunities for transmission, there is not a certain with this. we can't predict the future, but based on the biology, the more interactions the people have, the easy it is for the virus to spre spread. a flat curve still means we're right at the top, the plateau of the peak, which means there's a

lot of infected people still out in the community. if the interactions start again, if you've got 1,000 cases per day, by the end of the week you could have 2,000, then 4,000. it can just increase very, very quickly. so it's a matter of how many cases a day you have in your community about how the risk should be perceived and taken in each individual community or state. >> here's something you thought people needed to know. that is the formula that causes you to catch that virus. you say it's a combination of exposure to the virus as well as time. so explain what that means and how long, for instance, can a healthy person be exposed before they eventually contract it. >> it's a misunderstanding or misconception that just being exposed to the virus means you're going to get infected. it does take a certain dose of the virus to get you to an infectious dose to establish an

infection. now, that infectious dose is different for each person. there's not a hard number on this, and we don't have it for this virus, but what is important is exposure over time. so if you get a high exposure, you don't need a lot of time. when someone sneezes on you, coughs on you, you can get infected immediately. but if you're in an environment where the virus is in a very low concentration but there, an indoor space, for example, you can breathe in a little bit of virus over a longer period of time and still get to that infectious dose. so what i why writing about was giving people the tools that they need to be able to understand where the risks lay and how they can reduce or mitigate those risks as much as possible. >> aaron, you also write that, if the biology is not solved, the economy is not going to

recover. what do you consider being the biology solved? is it inclusively a vaccine? could it be some sort of secure that solves the biology? which one do you think is more likely? >> no, i think we can engineer a way out of this problem. every day that goes on and we learn new information, the amazing scientists working on the front line are coming up with new ideas of it's the pathogen, so we know about it. if we can slow the interactions, fewer interactions in a day, fewer people getting infected, we know if we improve the indoor air environment, nor filtration, more air exchange, we can reduce against how many people become infected. we can take little chunks out of armor and bet it gown to a manageable level with things like engineering of spaces, face masks work, social distancing,

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college graduates now marked as the class of covid-19, ready to launch a new life, seeing their plans uprooted. how they will find their way forward in uncharted territory. >> the coronavirus outbreak declared a global pandemic. more major universities shutting campuses down as the coronavirus spreads, more than 100 u.s. colleges have now announced they are spending in-person classes. >> it was kind of chaotic and everything was like, is this really real? another big-name school that in-person classes are canceled for the fall. >> it's anxious. you don't know how long this will last. >> congratulations class of 2020, we did it. go forth and make the world a better place. >> it's certainly been a rolle coaster of emotions during the last two months. this class has truly been through it all. >> learning can happen anyway.

education is not bound to our brick-and-mortar classrooms. >> during this last year i learned of our grit and courage and our kindness. pretty power of messages hope from just a few 2020 graduates. good day, everyone. welcome to this virtual town hall, "the class of covid-19." i'm alex witt. we're just a few hours away from a special event you can all see here, graduate together. former president obama will give the keynote address, but nil onof the nation's graduates, both high school and college face months of uncertainty. the numbers tell the story. the unemployment rate now 14.7% with goldman sachs warning that number will peak at 25%. we saw dr. fauci say there's no

easy answer on whether schools can reopen this fall. president trump countering, saying fauci did not give an acceptable answer, saying schools should absolutely open. this hour we're going to try to get you and your families answered. we're answer questions from graduating seniors about who you new normal will be and what kind of job markets they're facing. first my expert panel. dr. market sch 4r6789 issel president of the university of michigan. arne duncan, former education secretary until president obama, lindsey p lindsey pollack, a big welcome to you all. we have twins noel and electiona broussard, noel is a graduating senior at the university of michigan. she dual majors in film,

television and media studies and communication studies. alexa is graduating from the university of pennsylvania majoring in psychology. james is a senior at stanford, and tatiana, a graduating masters students in arts politics at tissue scho counter. h schools of the arts. what does the future of education look like to you? is the traditional college a thing of the past? what is the new normal like? >> well, in the short term, alex, it will be a different normal for college students. i'm confident that this pandemic will pass and we'll get back to the experience that makes -- >> i can't hear anything --

>> that makes american higher ed absolutely fantastic. in the short term, i think we'll have a major disruption. we'll have to be flexible, adaptable and still provide the most outstanding educational experience we can for students in context. >> sorry about the crossing of the audio there. but let's get to you, arne. telework is in pretty high demand. do you think there's any silver lining? might college graduates actually benefit? could this help college students ready the future, with this is more remotely based jobs? >> i don't know if that's a benefit. i think they're definitely learning some skills. i think the biggest things they're learning is the need for empathy, to solve problems and work together. everyone's family is impacted. no one's immune from it, so seeing this group of leaders emerge over the next, 10, 20, 30

years and be shaped by this experience, i hate that we're going through it, i hate we're making so many bad decisions at the federal level, but having our young people leading us to a better place, i have hope. >> lindsey, i want to get to you know. tell me what you think the job market looks like now for graduates. is it as daunting as it seems with all these rising unemployment numbers, sore there a demand for young workers? >> it is very daunting and there is a demand for young workers. i think the biggest message to students and their parents is that, yes, it's going to be more difficult than we expected a few months ago, but there are plenty of jobs available. you just might have to be more creative about where you're going to start your career. >> okay. well, that's good. creativity is good. how about you, abbeabby, how mus

school funding impacted by this? how will it affect the timing for reopening of schools? >> yeah so scoots are fawing potential drastic budget cuts. social distancing, additional space in dorms and academic facilities, but it could challenge their able to carry on programs long term. for shurp. let's get to a panel of our graduating students. i know they have questions for all of you. we'll start with the twins there, noel and alexis. what are your big concerns?

>> i think a big one is job insecurity. how long will it take for me to find a job? i think a lot of graduation can relate to pain and disappointment we all feel, because losing our graduation ceremony, that's a moment we've all been waiting for, so for it to be taken away so abruptly, definitely makes thins scary and hard to swallow. >> alexis, you're nodding. is that also your first big concern? is. >> yeah, it's a huge concern. it's a disappointment and uncertainty. i do have a job luckily, but i think a lot of students are concerned about the impact of the virus on the quality of education they're getting, especially students looking to pursue advanced degrees. not only that, but i think many are facing this internal conflict between wanting to choose the pass/fail option, but

being afraid to for fear of admissions committees will look unfavorably on that. i would like to have you both ask a question. alexis, do you want to go first? >> so i'll be working in a lab largely based on analysis, so how do you see scientific research and equipment and lab work but affected? >> who of our experts would like to tackle that one? >> well, my university, alex, is the largest public research university in the country. i'm a biomedical scientist and immunologist actually, so i can take a shot at the first question. so research is beginning to ramp up right now. we're going to use social distancing practices, limit the number of people in a lab at one time, ask people to wear masks. we'll clean our equipment more

frequently than normal. because of the nature of how research is conducted, it's going to be one of the activities we can get back to sooner than other activities that require large numbers of people to occupy a small space. but i also want to congratulate the students who are with us for graduating, for sticking with it. you'll look back on these fourees as one of best times of your life, so hang in there. >> n on oelle, how much any questions? >> yeah. how do we best market ourselves and make us stand out during or job search, when now we're not only competing with other graduates, but adults who have families that have been laid off because of the pandemic. >> lindsey, that one is yours. >> absolutely. noelle, alexis, congratulations. it's such an accomplishment. part of your story is being one

of the class of 2020. there are a tremendous number of people of this panel and so many others who really want to help and support you. i think the top of that list is your college or university career center. so do not pass go without reaches out. they are working virtually. they are doing tremendous work to help you improve your resume, expand your job search beyond what you might have wanted a couple months ago, helping with profiles, interview prep, and really they're kind of a clearinghouse for all the opportunities and networking among employers in your area, so tap into the resources that will help you craft that story specific to where you went to school. we have our first video question submit submitted to us. this is from deanna jolley thomas a high school senior from wayne, north carolina. let's take a listen. >> due to covid-19, all of mite

senior senior event were canceled. my fear is can i go back to normal in the fall? i will taken university by then. hopefully we can all go back to our lives and everyone will be safe once more. this goes back, dr. schlissel, a bit. can you reassure deanna that everything will be normal? >> no, i can't. i think the importance thing for all of us to realize is we have to learn through at least a window of time to live with this virus. what i mean by that, until there's a vaccine or effective drugs, or everybody's had the infection, it's going to be a continuous threat. that doesn't mean we can't adapt to it using the public health toolbox and changing the way we educate people. we can continue to progress, provide education, get our

economy moving again, but i don't want to offer the unrealistic hypothat everything will be magically gone by september. >> let's move on to james, a student at stanford. i know you're trying to pursue a master's in electrical engineering. >> first and foremost, i do have a bit of a privilege of having sort of a latency between the true job market search, but one thing, there's a lot of thing that i feel could be learned or taken away from people that went through that. i want to ask the experts, what are their opinions on similar that maybe we can draw that hit that class of graduates, and from those people that managed to still find jobs and careers, what do you think are the biggest takeaways? >> arne, that's a good one for you, since you were secretary of education during that time.

what do you want to say to james? >> i do hope long term the lessons learned, how we solved problems, how we become better, more empathetic leaders, i think long-term the benefit will be there. for now it's how do we take care of each other? as you go out to the job market it's not just how do you do for yourself, but make other people feel better? how do we learn together to get through this really, really tough time? and where we have young leaders like you who are living this every single day, i think you're going to be in good shape. for all our young people going through this as a hard time, you know, your compassion, your resilience inspires people like me. if i'm hiring, i'm looking for problem solvers, i'm looking for

people who can be great teammates, people who can work together virtually and online and through zoom calls now, which is our world. for people to have those skills, community indicate, solve problems, work in a diverse setting, i think that's what all employers are looking for. >> tatiana, are you worried about getting a job? i think given these times with the essential businesses versus nonand do you have a question for one of our experts? >> yeah, absolutely. first of all, thank you so much for the platform to talk about such an important topic, but coming from puerto rico, i had already had to restructure my education baines the hurricane as a teen, and i once again find myself in a unique situation.

as we continue the process of applying for a job, what do you think are the skills and strengths that graduate like me have to off, and what are the best way to say articulate these to employers or educational institution during recruitment or during this time? >> lindsey and evie? lindsey, you first. >> first, congratulations. i think you're showing incredible resilience and positivity. it's not what an employer can do for me, but what you can you do for a company, for an employer. i would keep all options on of table with graduate school and jobs, even considering starting your own business or working at consulting or internship role, but positivity, resilience and a desire to contribute in any way that an organization needs, i think that's what you bring to the table.

>> evie, to you. >> we've tracked just an incredible collective trauma that folks in puerto rico have gone through, with maria, the earthquake, and now this situation. i applaud you for stepping out in a time like this when you've been through so much. i think that natural resilience to develop that concern for others, not just yourself, are things that will probably be evident in your job search. but sharing your story, sharing your vulnerability, but recognizing your own assets you've developed i think are really important. well, you guys, congratulations to all of you, you are remarkably accomplished young people. we're super proud of you have. thank you for joining us and giving us your information and concerns to discuss. doctor and arne duncan, i'll

have you back a bit later, but lindsey, evie thank you. why colleges produce the vast majority of black lawyers and doctors could be facing a battle for survival, and the affordability for college. why some of the lesser expensive alternatives may be in jeopardy. i'll speak with dr. jill biden about that when we come back. but first, facebook hosted a virtual graduation ser moyer for the class of 2020. that's where oprah winfrey shared her wisdom. let's turn it. >> of course, this is not the graduation ceremony you envisioned. you've been dreaming about that walk across the stage, your family and friends cheering you on, the caps flung joyously in the air, but even though there may not be pomp because of our circumstances, never has a

graduating class been called to step into the future with more purpose, vision, passion and energy and hope. vision, psiasod energy and hope. it's best we stay apart for a bit,

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the enter net, it is a crucial link for millions of students andi raising new awareness of america's troubling socioeconomic divide. i'll speak with dr. jill biden in a few moments. but first the headlines. the house passed another round of stimulus for americans, but it's unlikely to become law. the president this week called it dead on arrival. the house also approved a rule change allows lawmakers to cast votes remotely for the first time in congressional history. at the white house, the unveiling of "operation warp speed," the plan to fast-track a

vaccine, but saying it's not essential to reopening the country. >> there's never been a vaccine project anywhere in history like this i just want to spike something clear -- vaccine or no vaccine, we're back. italy announcing plans to loosie inine inine ining travel. even for the fall, many questions remain on how to move forward. joining me is dr. jill biden, wife of former vice president and presidential candidate joe biden, and we hope our future first lady. >> thank you. >> she was also an instructor

and professor of english, so your grammar, all of it are perfect. >> we hope. >> let's get back to the experts in education that you have. how is the coronavirus most impacting learning right now? >> well, i think, you know, one of the things that i hear from teachers, actually, is of the inequity in all of this. so many teachers are saying they can't reach their students, because their students don't have laptops, they don't have broadband, they don't have the internet. there's so much inequity. this pandemic has really shown this white-hot spotlight on the inequities in our country. i think that's one of the things we have to fix going forward. >> bridget kruger is from costa

mesa, california, set to attend baylor this fall. >> i'm concerned about, though, that i'm moving to a new state, texas, somewhere i'm not used to, so hopefully acclimating to the new climate, environment and everything won't be as scary as it seems. for an expert in higher education, what they are worried about if classes continue online. . >> what are your concerns? is. >> i think bridget will do just fine. experiencing something completely new, that's the exciting part, but we must listen to the science 'tises and doctors. when they say it's okay to go back, that's when we should go

back. our health is so vital. that's what we need to remember. i cannot wait to see my students. i miss them so much, but it's going to work out. it's going to be okay. eventually we'll get back to the classroom. i just have to be patient, and, most of all, safe. >> i know, dr. biden, you took part in an op-head -- how to school your kids. even though remote learning is an innovative tool,ings it is uneven. some have limited internet or even no access. what can be done to change the disparities? >> first of all, that's what i'm hearing every day.

one thing, people are saying, wow, teachers work hard. that's a good thing, that we see how hard they work. i hear from teachers all over, sometimes half the class shows up, and teachers are concerned about that you are students. one of the things we must do, and i know joe will do as president, we need to expand broadband, so every student has access to the internet. even in my own classroom, not all kids have laptops. so we have to make education equal. joe's going to start that, to begin that with universal pre-k at 3 years old. i know that that's the other end of the spectrum than i am, but it's imperative we equalize education.

>> that's what i'm hearing from parents all over the country. >> it is the foundation for the building blocks of learning. i know that you held a virtual conversation. there were four hispanic teachers he spoke with in arizona this week. what are the concerns they shared with you? >> you know, the teachers said to me that they were really concerned about the educators in general were worried about the inequities, because it was so evident. they were also worried about jobs, unemployment. if you think about it, think of the bus drivers, the cafeteria workers, the support systems. you know, a lot of those people are really worried about, you know, will i have a job? the big one was mental health. as we see all they will kids are at home. there's anxiety and stress they're feeling, many, many of our young children, our students

in lower grades are food insecure. things are happening in the home. there's a rise in domestic violence. in the fall hopefully when we go back to school, the children will be bringing all of this with them. so the educators are saying, we need help with mental health in our schools. i have heard that the past year as i traveled as kroy the nation, so joe will tunnel the number of counselors and psychologists in the school system to help the children and, yes, help our educators. they can't do it all. we are asking this emto do it all. we are asking to address the emotional, the social and the intellectual well-being of our kids, and it's a really tough job. >> well, look. joe will get it done with you at his side.

we're lucky you are a two for one package duo. >> thank. thank you for joining us. we're honored. >> thank you, alex. thanks a lot. the pandemic may be putting the financial squeeze on current students. how come there are fewer applications for high school seniors than last year. but first a powerful message of encouragement from tom hanks. >> you will continue on into the after, as in after the virus was tamed, after we were safe to go out again, after we took up our probable lives once more. your after will not look the same as your during or as your before. you will have seen the movie and you will know how it ends. you will be enlightened in ways the degrees from wright state never held in promise. you will have made it through a time of great sacrifice and

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joining us is priscilla thompson. what are you hearing there about concerns there? >> reporter: you may remember where i'm standing. just a few short months ago texas southern university was the site of a presidential election, but colleges are grappling with how to operate. and while a lot of issues are the same and accounting for the fact in a enrollment could be lower, the stakes are higher for hbcus, because experts tell me they're historically underfunded. they also don't necessarily have the large endocuments we see at other institutions. the good news is there was in relief in the c.a.r.e.s. act, specifically being to the more than 100 hcb uism bismthcbus. i spoke to some opportunities

about what it's like to graduate amid a pandemic, and why it's important to probably their aim alma matters, take a listen. >> i was staying up every night applying to three jobs every night, makes a cover letter specifically for each one and just prayling of ts. there's nothing out there. >> i was the first to graduate from my family, even during a pandemic, to have that legacy and continue to build on it. >> in the midst of a pandemic, these are schools that are still educating, putting forth black doctors and attorneys, people who look like me. i feel that's week they're very important. >> all of those students see that as an.

>> i remember that, priscilla, thank you. dr. robinson, welcome. thank you for being here, sir. i want to ask you what the state of classes is at the university, and have been firmed up the semester for the fall? >> thank you for the opportunity to speak with you. like many of our colleagues, we made a remarkable transformation from our normal classroom, in about a week's time when we went from less than 12%, remotely offered to all of them. we are currently in that mode for all of the summer session, and we are in the process of working with the state university system as well as internally to determine exactly what the fall semester will look like. i believe, as your previous

guests have said, there will be some sense of a new normal. no details are forthcoming. i just want everyone to know we are working hard on it internally. we're pleased to be proud of a state university system that's given priors, and providing a framework for all of us to work in in the state of florida. >> pretty extraordinary the week you described, the way you had to change. it must have felt like whiplash. there's concern that the hbcus, some of them, won't make it through this. how realistic is that? and what can be done to stop that from happening? >> let me first say that we are all very, very appreciative of the funds that have been provided to us through the c.a.r.e.s. act, you know, those monies have gone to support students in need and to help offset some of the operational

losses that we incurred as a result of responding to things such as residence hall fees, meal plans, et cetera. we really want to thank those persons who have done that. at the same time, we want to make sure that everyone understands we still have some unmet needs. some of that is historical underfunding, and a lot of it has to do with the practical realizations that don't make under the circumstances whole in terms of offsetting the losses that we've had. for example, we were able to recoup those monies we sent to students who paid for meal plans, but we lost the revenue that would have otherwise been generated had our eating facilities been -- dining facilities been open throughout the university complex. so on and on and on, you can see how those monies are important, but they don't make up for the

gap that has happened. how concerned are you about fall enrollment? it's different for kids to even visit the campus for consideration. what are yew biggest concerns about that? >> one of the things we have done, we not only took the classroom offerings, and pretty much everything else, including we just had a virtual, you know, spring preview. that's a huge event on campus that would have had somewhere between 2,000 to 3,000 students and their parents on the campus to talk about the fall semester of 2020 as well as future semesters. we took that virtual. we are working very, very hard to make sure students stay with us and understand we're going to be operating this fall. i'm most concerned about the

financial impacts that the coronavirus is going to have on these students. with over 33 million families unemployed or having someone in hair households unemployed with the disparities that exist, we're concerned that parents and families who had tried to get their students to get here in the fall may not be able to afford it. i think those thinking about a new wave of c.a.r.e.s. act-type funding, whether you call it the here owes a heroes act or something, beyond a disparities and the number of people and the health care and the health impacts of this disease on african-american and communities of color and low income, the financial implications are going to be disparities as well. >> i've got so say we're big

fans thanks to one of your start graduates, our colleague. as ceremonies have been canceled, join us for a saturday night special. at 7:00 p.m. joy reid previews president obama's peeve befospe t the 8:00 p.m. special. the options on the table for students applying for financial aid and scholarships and what the economic crisis means for universe' bottom line. but first steph curry sending the class of 2020 off with this message from chase as virtual show me your walk event. >> i know about setbacks.

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his sophomore year. doctor, you first here, students have part-time jobs, he may be out of work. their parents may have lost their jobs, so for opportunities who can't afford tuition, what kind of options do they have? >> sure, that's one of the biggest challenges we are preparing for, as we think about the fall semester. usually it's based on last year's tax returns, and today is much different. to ensure the education is not disrupted to the very best we can, using philanthropy and the endow ee eed recesses of the university. >> thank you so much for having me. as i go into graduate school,

there's a big concern with things possibly shifted online. do you think that the cost of education should be decreased if students don't have the same access to the same resources they would have had if they had been on campus. >> aroundest, what do you think of that? >> if you're not living on campus, you should not be paying room and board. that's a tough one no universities, but everyone has to work on this together, but a couple larger points, i think we should be forgiving student loans for those who go into public service, freezing interests or freezing loan repayment for recent graduates. joe biden has talked about that as he goes through his candidacy. we should be looking to make community college free, public universities free, and for recent college graduates coming into a tough job market we should have a massive national

service program. they can help tutor kids, help the elderly. there's nothing more powerful than working in a small group. we can't can them to do this by themselves. we have to provide some leadership, a better structure that is more thoughtful and much more reasonable for young people and will help get our country back on its feet. >> sibile, for those students graduating this year, and because of this crisis, they don't have a job lined up, but they do have the student loans to start paying off. what do they do? >> yeah. so fort naturally the $2 trillion c.a.r.e.s. act did provide some relief for student loan debt. so when it comes to interest payments, and involuntary

collections, that is suspended up to september 30s, but only for federal student loans. the house just passed the $3 trillion heroes act that would spanned that to next year, september 30th, 2021, and also provides up to $10,000 in student loan debt forgiveness not just for federal, but also state loans. the president and senate have already indicated they're not likely to approve it. >> memo, what questions do you have? >> hi, everyone. my question is more geared toward life after college. so during these times, college students, you nor, were stripped of the opportunity to network and market. a lot of people lost summer internships. so what do the experts recommend that college students are doing to give themselves the best opportunity for success after

college, which president of those opportunities are now gone. >> doctor, what do you think of that question? >> i would say that's a really important question. despite how hard it is to study remotely, perhaps and the things you have given up, you have to find ways to engage, to continue to engage the world, to engage your fellow classmates. or faculty are always available for the equivalent of office hours, student activities still occur online. our counseling service is still providing services remotely. you just have to go with it. none of us welcome the circumstances, and all have to make a personal commitment to get the very best out of it. there's never been a more important time. at this pandemic is over, the more educated a person is, the better able they'll be to reintegrate into a growing economy, so hang with it. we'll do our best to work with

you. in the long run, i remain confident. >> you guys, thank you so much for joining us. good luck in all your future endeavors. in the meantime, dr. schlissel, arne duncan, and sibile vargas, thank you so much. the. first, miley cyrus at yesterday's graduation 2020 event hosted by facebook, gave a moving performance of her his song "the climb." ♪ there's always going to be another mountain ♪ ♪ always going to be an uphill battle ♪ ♪ sometimes you're going to have to ♪ ♪ it ain't about how fast i get there ♪ ♪ it ain't about what's waiting on the other side ♪ ♪ it's a climb ♪

i marvel at your rye sill jens, the way the love in your heart rises not only in good times, but in hard times. i marvel at your enduring commitment to the success of each others, the communities, state, and world you serve. >> texas a&m's president speaking, pointing out that texas college students have had a challenging few years with hurricane harvey, and now the pandemic. one of we go, i'd like to share a few thoughts about the class of covid-19. you will be known as the greatest next generation, because of all i have witnessed with so many of you with your passion and perseverance. my son and daughter are among

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