about a court ruling. plus the chair of the virginia black legislative caucus will tell me why he's concerned about the reopening in that state. i have senator schumer to talk about the new $3 trillion sti stimulus package passed by the house. and the president's decision to fire the inspector general. and we'll talk about the class of 2020, president obama and president clinton taking a part of an historic event. governor larry hogan lifted his state's stay-at-home order. with me now is ali vitahave i t-

>> reporter: i have to say there's been a cashes optimism here. people out here walking main street. this is phase one of the reopening process here in the state. for many of these businesses, it means working within the new rules to survive in this post-pandemic world. for this barbershop, it means appointment only. the owner says his phone has been ringing off the hook. you walk up a few storefronts, though, the nest is another business we've been spending time at today. they're trying to make sure they can operate at 50% capacity of people being inside their stores, so that they are able to maintain social distancing inside as well. that means one of their employees standing at the door, asking patrons to wait outside so others can clear out of the

store. the question across the board, of course, is about timing. most of the owners here say that they're cautiously opt mythsic, this is the right time to reopen. the question is what would patrons be doing? listen to our conversation. >> do you think people will be comfortable coming out? >> i think -- >> reporter: every week that i go out, every day i go out, there seems to be more cars on the road, more people trying to get out, opening their businesses, trying to look at what this world looks like now. today is the most people i've seen out. most people i have seen and spoken to, they're wearing masks, trying to social distance, abiding by the rules, while at the same time trying to

go along with what's happening in the state. effectively, it's still local and senior officials are saying it's safer to be at your home, but you can go out if you need to. obviously retailers beginning to reopen. i think the notable thing here is, this is not an across the board reopening approach. state official have been ability to give local officials the options to say whether or not they're really to reopen. so this part of maryland is one of the parts that's open, but parts that's closer to d.c. and bigger metro areas have opted to stay closed. so you sort of end up with a

patchwork quilt, county by county, whether they're open or not. as i've been traveling, there are local officials who have told me they enjoyed having a say in the process, not just having it told to them by statewide officials. >> all right. ali vitali, thank you so much. we have developing news out of the washington. late last night the white house announced that president trump fired the inspector general overseeing the state department, steve linik. it prompted criticism. you had house spoker nancy pelosi say it's accelerated his dangerous power of retaliation. joining mess now is monica alba at the white house. what more can you tell us about this firing? >> yeah, the president reserves

the right to remove these federal watch dogs if he sees fit. this is the latest example we have seen, this time with the state department inspector general. we're told that the. no longer has full confidence in him. we don't know exactly why, but in his own words to speaker plotse, he said he no longer had that confidence. he notified in congress within 30 days it's his wish to replace him with someone who is an ally of vice president mike pence. the president has targeted several inspectors general, not always looking to remove them, sometimes shift them to a different position. we've seen it at hhs, with the department of defense and also with the intelligence community. democrats are saying this is outrageous, because they believe this could be a potential act of retaliation. the. >> thanks, monica.

this week north carolina's senator richard burr announced he will temporary step down as chairman of the committee while the fbi investigates him. he's among four senators found to have sold stock shortly before the pandemic caused markets to crash in march. they also questioned dianne feinstein. it has not taken action against jim inhofe, or kelly loeffler. betsy, who more can you tell us? >> reporter: i spent the week talking to officials and others about this case, and the reality is bringing charges will create a potentially quite interesting legal hurdle for the justice department. that's because the law that he may potentially have broken called the stock act, has around

for less than ten years, and doj has yet to successfully convict an elected member of congress based on this law which bars people like senator burr from using insider information to enrich themselves, insider information they obtained based on their jobs in government. of course it's a political catastrophe for burr. it's less significant for him than might be for others, but legally it's going to be a challenging moment for the justice department. >> betsy, senator feinstein was questioned by the fbi. senators loeffler and inhofe were not. there's claims that there's bias. >> reporter: these are concerns anytime the justice department scrutinizes the politically challenging moments. right now we just don't have enough information to have a clear sense of whether or not they're treating the republicans involved here differently than

treating the democrats. what most legal experts agree on is the actual fact pattern involving burr and his stock sales sets off the most red lights. burr and his brother-in-law, who is also a government official, both off-loaded a lot of stocks on the same day. that's the thing that really raises eyebrows for federal prosecutors who monitor insider trading. another thing we know is the decision by the fbi to execute a search warrant and seize burr's cell phone was green lit at the highest levels of the justice department. after 2016, when the gop took a b battering, there was an internal rule change, one which required very senior review of any type of activity like this directed as a political official. our sources have told us that attorney general bill barr was aware this search warrant was being executed and was okay with that happening.

betsy, late yesterday senator burr asked the trump administration to declassify a report on russian election interference. why might burr be making that request now? >> reporter: honestly it's probably not likely to be directly tied to his involvement in this fbi investigation. that says it appears to be the last formal decision he made as chairman of the senate intelligence committee. it lets him ends this epps soed of had career on a note that's likely to draw bipar san support. burr has gone through an immense reputational collapse because of these stock dealings. prior to the news coming out, he was one of the few to regularly draw praise from the democrats, and the fact that the intelligence probe was seen as

kind of the house intelligence committee. it was seen as less political, more serious, above board, and burr got a lot of approval for that. he is now leaving his post as the head of that committee and as a chairman on a comparatively strong note, but of course, it's going to be overshadowed by the fact he had the fbi knock on his door. >> the declassification request would have to be approved by the executive branch. in your reporting, have you heard whether or not that will be all likely? >> i don't have detail on that. there's likely there will be redactions and many portions le withheld. that's been the case with other reports, and it was the case with robert mueller's report. one important piece of new music

is the officer has been enthusiastically declassifying material. last week they declassified information regarding moves by the obama administration officials to fully understand intelligence about potential russian activity in the lead up to the 2016 campaign. the trump campaign has said this means joe biden is guilty of some sort of crime. of course, the president has yet to name any particular crime it might implicate, about you those documents were declassified by the office of the director of national intelligence, which is held by rick grenell, the same office that will be making decisions about declassifying this russian report as well. >> thank you, betsy. >> thanks. more information is coming to light as investigators into into the killing of ahmau

ahmaud arbury. two months before he was shot a police officers advised the property owner to contact mcmichael. though the property owner is es he didn't enlist mcmichael's help, a lawyer represents the arbury family this raises new questions about the events leading up to the killing of his son and the aftermath. after reviewing multiple surveillance tape, the family's attorney released a statement saying -- there were frequently people on the construction site. ahmaud arbery seems to be the only one considered a criminal. the mcmichaels were arrested after a video of their deadly

confrontation went viral. we're learning more about the origins of that viral video. nbc news reports that gregory mcmichael is the one who released it first. a brunswick attorney who isn't representing either suspect, tells nbc news that gregory mcmichael delivered the video to hem. the attorney representing greg dorsey mcmichael says his client did not commit nor was party to the crime of murder. another case off kentucky causes outrage, after a raid during the early hours of march 13th left emtbre breona taylor dead. walker was not listed on the search warrant that the police were there to execute. now walker has been charged with attempted murder of a police officer. the louisville metro police department have announced that

the three officers involved in her death are now on administrative reassignment. joining me now is philip bailey, who has been following the story in louisville, kentucky for "the courier journal." what can you tell you about the latest? >> one of the more disturbing elements that's come forward is the allegations by the family's attorney and has now been reported by multiple outlets that the u.s. inspector, the u.s. post office inspector saying the information in the affidavit is not accurate. lapd in the affidavit obtained a no-knock warned said that breona taylor had someone visit her home that was a suspected drug dealer, who was picking up mail from her location. the u.s. postal service inspector said there was no way to tell if she was receiving suspicious mail, and that he was never contacted by lmpd

directly. he informed them there's no way to tell in she was receiving suspicious mail on behalf of the supposed drug suspect. so this has raised even more questions about lmpd, its discipline and handling of the case. there's a number of questions about why the search want was executed in march, why much of the information that that search warrant was from january or february. you speak to former police officers, people i have spoken with, they say generally when they obtained a search want, it's 42 to 78 hours when it's executed. >> what more with very learned about the charges he now faces? >> this is the issue here with mr. kenneth walker, taylor's

boyfriend. this is the conflict with the stand your ground/castle laws and no-knock warrants, which activists are calling on the mayo to stop that practice. the issue is that it creates a stand offand shooting spree between police and civilians. mr. walker says he never knew these were police entering hess home. lmpd said we announced his home, but mr. walker and neighbors, according to the lawsuit, say they never heard them announce they were police. many folks said, how are we supposed to believe and know it's generally police trying to enter my home rather than an intruder. even though the no-knock warrant were allowed by the supreme court, we in and out have these laws on the books, right, stand your ground laws that many police officers say, tell us here at "the courier journal" it

creates many conflicts. and there's questions about the judge who signed the no-knock warrant. and in the warrant there's no indication that taylor's home had cameras, that they were merely looking for mail and documents at her home, according to the affidavit, according to the search warrant, so why was a no-knock warrant needed? and why was it executed at 1:00 in the morning? that's the questions on the minds of her family and many activists here in louisville. >> the story has garnered national interest and attention. what has been the response in your own community? >> i would say there's a long-standing piece of tension between the african-american community and local police department. most recently we had a very prominent minister, head of the hbcu here, pulled over by police. which raises questions about why

are we pulling over average citizens? this certainly put the mayo on his heels. his initials statement didn't even mention ms. taylor by her name, and that's one of the issues that city leaders can be asked to do. he didn't men her time as an emt. she worked at different hospitals, so there are many folks who say this severity -- the focus should be on how lmpd handled this case? was why a no-knock want obtained? and won't -- how this postal inspector raising questions about the truthfulness of the affidavit in the search warrant. philip, thanks so much.

>> thank you. the louisville police department issued this statement about the internal investigation into breona taylor's case -- the investigation resulting in breona taylor's death is nearly complete. the investigation will go to attorney general daniel cameron, whose office will review it since tom wine has refused him receive. wisconsin is open for business thanks to a ruling from the supreme court. a mayor has called the ruling reckless and is now seeing a surge in his city. and senator schumer will join me. president trump says he won't sign the new bill. and we'll show you how they have been trying to make a

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we're the wild west, ali. there are no restrictions at all across the state of wisconsin. the league in this state has sent e-mails to their members saying we're open tonight. at this point in time, there is no -- no -- no orders. there's nothing that's compelling people to do anything other than having chaos here. >> that was wisconsin governor tony evers reacting to his state's supreme court decision to overrule stay-at-home orders, a decision that led to scenes like this, bars reopened, locals packed in, many not wearing masks or social distancing. but the city of racine has an order that's effective immediately until may 26th.

according to the white house coronavirus task force, documents object attend by nbc news, racine has ranked ten in the top ten counties with a week-to-week surge in cases. i'm joined by the mayor of racine. mayor, tell us more about your concerns. >> the city of racine and the area is seeing a spike in coronavirus cases. we're deeply concerned about the number of cases we've had just in the last week. so we're nowhere near flattening the curve. so we have the supreme court with their conservative allies in the legislature immediately lift the safer at home order so we feed to take act and everyday

and try to keep everybody safe. so i'm pleased to say there's lot taverns acting very responsibly, saying we don't think we should hope right now. a lot of our taverns have been very responsible, bur we're in the mid the of a pandemic. >> getting the virus, we're nowhere near ahead of this. what we need now isn't partisan intervention from the supreme court. what we need is leadership from washington so that we can get ahead of this.

do you think there's the possibility of extending it past the month of may? >> that's a great question. ideally a state order would have been better. racine is up against surrounding suburbs, and you can't tell where one begins and another begins, so to have a quilt of stay-at-home orders across the southeast part of the state where we're seeing cases surge really doesn't protect the public. certainly it's better than nothing, but it will put us in a place where you'll see cases a couple weeks from now with the order being lifted. we have to realize as a country and community, we're all in this together, and what you do will have an impact on your neighbor and the people around you.

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governments, hazard pay for essential workers and another round of stimulus payments up to $1200 per person. it was a win for speaker nancy pelosi, to got the bill across the line. now it heads to the senate. joining me on the phone is senate minority leader chuck schumer. senator, you saw mitch mcconnell suggesting this is doa as it hits the senate. what is your plan? >> the plan is a plan of really urgent and necessary things, you know. we have 30 million people out of the work. we have thousands and thousands of small businesses going bankrupt and closing up every day. we have lines and lines of food pantries, people who never went to food pantries have been, and we have so many people just in limbo. so the answer is something that is strong, that is bold, that is

large and that meets our urgent necessities. mitch mcconnell has had a habit here. each of the bills that have come forward, he says we're not doing anything, and you know what happens? public pressure mounts. right now, for instance, state and local governments are staying we're going to have to lay off thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people if we don't get aid soon. most of their deadlines are june 1st in terms of their budgets. this is not an abstract concept. these are policemen, ambulance drivers, bus drivers, food safety workers. what will happen, my belief is, there will be such pressure on leader mcconnell that once again, he will have to back off. virtually no one in american believes what he said the other day. he says he doesn't see an urgent need to act immediately. ask the 30 million unemployed. ask the millions of businesses

going bankrupt. ask the people who can't feed their children or who are afraid of being kicked out of their homes. there is urgent need. the public will put pressure on mcconnell and he will have to come to the table. yet you and i know the package will look different. which elements are just nonnegotiable? >> i don't draw red lines in the sand, but i will tell you we have to have large aid no state and local governments. that is just vital. we have to have testing. one of the main reasons we're in as bad shape -- worse shoop than so many other countries, this administration has totally flopped on testing. trump said -- on march 6th, everyone who wants a test will get a test. everyone who needs a test will get a test. well, that's absolutely not true. if we had testing, if people when they went to the stores were sure that everyone was

tested so no one with covid was in the stores or stadiums, in the parks or strideeets, people would be willing to go forward. if you're a medical worker or food worker and are risking your lives, you ought to get real help. these are things that are urgent and necessary, and we have to continue to straighten out the ppp program, the money to small businesses, so it goes to small businesses, not just people of a friend at a bank. >> senator, the house very narrow le defeated a republican -- or anyone without a social security number, are you committed to holding the line on that in the senate? >> look, the covid virus doesn't ask for your documentation when it infects you. we have millions of people who

are immigrants, millions of people who are doing the jobs. i think a third of the people in our health emergency rooms are immigrants. so to discriminate against then just makes no sense whatsoever, no sense, because we should terr if they don't get treatment, if they don't get the help they need and they're spreading the illness like anyone else who has it will, it will delay our recovery. >> senator, the c.a.r.e.s. act automatically suspended interest and payments for most people with federal student loans. do you have a plan on how to improve that, perhaps expanding the definition of a federal loan? >> yes, we think people having trouble paying student loans, who are in economic trouble should get real help from the federal government. if you -- many of our students are working full time and part

time to help pay their tuition, to help pay back their loans if they're out of school. we believe there ought to be help for these people. they're losing their jobs and income through no fault of their own. it's the federal government ha has owed -- has lent most of the money. we think the federal government all to protosome real significant forbearance. >> governor cuomo announced part of the stay will be allowed to partially reopen while new york city might take a bit longer. what do you think of that strategy? >> i think, unlike president trump, who runs away from the truth, runs away from science, who has to say, when dr. fauci speak, there's another side to it. what is that, lies? that, um, governor cuomo, and

most of the governors are handling this in a very careful way, realizing we want to get back to normal, but if we do it too quickly and ignore the advice of health sxerts, it's going to backfires. one more thing on that alicia, on news from last night. the president fired the inspector general of the state department. anyone who seems to speak truth in this administration, instead of being listened to, seems to be fired. truth is an anathema in so many instances in this administration, and that's what we're finding everywhere we go. the experts who tell the truth, trump fires them. snipors general were put in place to be independent and clean up the swamp. what is president trump's reaction? not to join them in cleaning up the swamp, but rather to fire them. this happens over and over and over again. right now at the white house, at

the camp david, instead of the president sitting down and talking with experts on covid and how to get the testing out, or how to you follow up on getting a vaccine instead of doing what he usually does, making a grandiose announcement and then forgets about it, he is talking to a group of hard-right republican congressmen about conspiracy theories. mr. president, there's a crisis in american. stop these conspiracy theories, many of which had russian origin, and start rolling up your sleeves and helping us solve the problem here. >> senator schumer, thank you 1067 for joining us. >> thank you, alicia. barber shops and salons in virginia are open for the first time in almost two months. phase one was launched yesterday. churches, stores and outdoor

seating at restaurants are open at a maximum of 50% capacity. some say this is coming too early, including the virginia legislative black caucus. joining me on the phone is lamont and chair of the virginia black legislative caucus. tell me, what is your opposition to they reopening measures? >> thanks for having me, alicia. our main concern is we feel like we need more time. we understand the governor is getting pushback as it relates to him following the cdc guidelines and following the data from our republican colleagues, and getting pushback from the trump administration and pressure, to open of the government prematurely, but it's our duty as the state black caucus to listening to those individuals in the community. initially when we were -- when the governor decided to shut

these businesses down temporarily, with the absence of any leadership on the federal government, barbershop, hair salon owners, all gave pushback. but once they got into it and realized is the position that they were putting their clients in, the parishioners in, now they're saying it's too soon. we agree with them. >> you know, i look at the numbers coming out of your state, and they reflect numbers we have seen across the country. nearly 23% of coronavirus patients in your state are black, only 20% of the population is -- when you talk about reopening the state, how does that impact the black community? >> well, we know that black individuals and the black community overwhelmingly have been disproportionately

impacted. one of the things that would open it back up is those jobs on the front line -- i know we talked about essential personnel -- those individuals that come into contact and are responsible for maintains a cleaning environment, we forget about them. we want to make sure they are front and center and ensure that they continue to push ppe out -- there's a lot of things that need to happen before we open back up. >> representative bagby, thank you. >> thank you so much. up next, college and high school graduations look different this week. we'll show you how the class of 2020 is celebrating at a distance. f 2020 is celebrating at a distance

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with graduation ceremonies cancelled across the country, schools have had to get creative as they try to honor their students. as dasha burns reports some graduates are taking celebrations into their own hands. >> reporter: for the class of 2020 this should be a time to celebrate. instead graduation ceremonies are on hold. no caps, no gowns, no good-byes. >> i was looking forward to seeing people before they

graduated. >> it feels like, did i graduate? the ritual actually feels missing. >> as campuses across the country closed to stop the spread of covid-19, colleges scrambled to figure out what to do about graduation. some schools moved their ceremonies online. >> congratulations. >> congratulations. >> good job. >> arizona state got creative with its virtual ceremony where students walked as robots. while other schools are still hoping to have an in person ceremony later this year and some students are taking matters into their own hands. >> warren messaged me at midnight what if we did this? yes, let's do it. posted it on facebook and it snowballed from there. >> rudy and warren built quarantine university on mine craft where they'll hold a commencement ceremony for 1,400 seniors. >> what if we got everyone together to have their commencements cancelled because of coronavirus and then put them

onto mine craft. >> it's their time, we well bring them to the stage they can walk, pretty much the same thing but virtual. >> one thing 2020 won't be shorted on, the commencement speaker, oprah, president obama, and lebron james giving talks online. >> basically we're giving every graduating student throughout the world an opportunity to develop a ted talk. >> we need your help. graduates and supporters of graduates to make this year a worldwide separation of the hopes. >> the dreams. >> the ideas. >> and the futures of an entire yen concentrati generation of young people. >> if you're a graduating member of 2020, or a supporter of the graduating class of 2020, ted invites you to record a ted style talk and share it on your social distancing. >> congratulations class of 2020 we finally made it.

>> they're missing this tremendous, local experience of getting together with your peers, being celebrated by your family, your community. we can't give that. it's not safe this year to do that, but what we can do is extend an opportunity for every student to weigh in for what this new future that we're all rebuilding together can look like. >> that was dasha burns reporting. tonight join us for an msnbc saturday night special, graduate together. america honors the high school class of 2020, that's at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. that wraps it up for this hour. my colleague joshua john takes over at the top of the hour. and i'll be back at 4:00 with an indepth discussion about biden's campaign with latino voters and why some think he is not doing enough. that's coming up in an hour here

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