msnbc news in new york. more of the nation is getting back on the job. meanwhile, president trump is making another job cut among the watchdogs keeping an eye on his administration. and restaurants are getting back to work for dine in service but are you ready for a reservation? that question is increasingly relevant, as nearly every state is in some form of reopening.

the days of takeout and delivery only may be just about over, but are we ready for that? are you? the message is mixed, including among restaurant own rs. and our experts will give their insights as well. we begin in washington where we learned late last night of a government watchdog fired by president trump, the president cente cente sent a notice to house speaker nancy pelosi that inspector general steve linick is being dismissed. president trump's notice stated that he no longer had the fully confidence in linick. the firing takes effect in 30 days. according to a statement from house foreign affairs chairman elliott angle, linick had begun investigating the secretary of state, mike pompeo.

leann, what was linick investigating exactly, do we know? >> reporter: joshua, if it's a friday night in washington and y you're an inspector general, your job might not be safe. this is not the first time the president has fired an inspector general late at night on a friday. but as far as linick is concerned all we know is what representative angle said in his statement. he said that he was investigating the secretary of state and then we heard from a democratic aide, joshua, who said that the inspector general was looking into the misuse of a political appointee at the department to perform personal tasks for himself and mr. pompeo. so i am told that there were rumors about this investigation among the state department and people on capitol hill. but the fact that the president ended up firing the inspector general because of it, perhaps, is what they are saying retaliation. >> yeah, i was going to ask you

about that. some democrats as you said, have labeled this move as an unlawful act of retaliation. the president does have the authority to remove these officials, broadly speaking. so what happens now? >> he does have the authority. he says that there's a 30 day period notifying congress before linick is removed from his position, but we have the top democrat on the senate committee, the top democrat on the house foreign relations committee and moments ago, joshua, they announced they are opening a probe into this firing. they sent three letters to the administration, one to the white house, one to the state and one to the state department office of inspector general, asking them to preserve all documents and records pertaining to the firing of linick. so democrats are not happy about this. they think this is an abuse of power. what they say is a pattern of

the president sidelining and firing people who are trying to have oversight of the president and this administration. we haven't heard from a lot of republicans yet, though, joshua. it happened on a friday night, today is only saturday so we're still waiting to hear from those republicans. we asked to see if we're going to get a statement, we haven't yet. we know democrats are upset, they plan to investigate but the republicans are going to be necessary here if the investigations are going to have any teeth. >> thanks, leann. now on to breaking news that may be relevant to you, especially if you were wondering whether biden v. trump was the way it was going to go in november. you can scratch the name of justin amash off the potential list. he announced via twitter a short time ago he will not run for president as a third party candidate. here's what he wrote, quote, after much reflection, i've

conclude that circumstances don't lend themselves to my success as a candidate for president this year and therefore i will not be a candidate. unquote. if you're wondering, justin amash, i didn't know he was thinking about it. a few weeks ago he launched an exploratory committee to seek the libertarian party's presidential nomination. meanwhile in the d.c. area, neighboring states have different approaches to reopening. the district's stay-at-home order is in place until june 8th. d.c. has more than 7,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus. virginia's stay-at-home order is set to end on june 10th. it has nearly 30,000 cases. and in maryland, a partial reopen began last friday. that state has about 7,000 more cases than virginia does. it also has more than 1,900 known deaths. nbc's ali vitali joins us from bell air. maryland's stay-at-home order

has been replaced with safer at home, what does that mean? >> reporter: joshua, effectively that state official is telling residents that they are safer staying at home, but that there are businesses that are able to start reopening, retailers, barbershop, houses of worship. those are the places yesterday at 5:00 were part of the phase one reopening in the state. that's not blanket across all counties, local officials are able to decide what it looks like. but it leaves business owners in the position of wondering how to reopen and doing it safely. some of those business owners join me now. you're a new business, you're four months old and contending with how do you reopen in a business that's sensory, requires smelling and touching, how do you reopen safely? >> we're a custom candle pour experience where the customer

comes in and creates their own product. we're taking it slow. today was a toe in the water with products that were slow. and instead of everyone coming in, we're going to take reservations. we're going to go slow. >> was that a hard decision for you guys figuring out if you should reopen? >> it was a hard decision. initially we were thinking we wouldn't open at all. we had to pivot to an online store only, which is not our business model. it's something where people come in and we interact with them, they interact with candles and create their own custom scent, like my wife said. but you can't do that online. so how do you reopen? how do you get that experience back in a phase one, stage one type of environment? >> especially when you're concerned for the fate of your business, i mean, four months old you're really in that early

phase. when customers have been coming in, what have been you hearing from them? >> almost to a tee, they've come in today and said we're specifically here to support small business. i think our community has really stepped up to that, because they know we won't make it without the businesses on main street won't make it without the customer support local. >> reporter: thank you guys so much. joshua, i have to tell you, even as i've been traveling the country talking with business owners as they've been beginning to reopen, i've been hearing the same things, neighbors and residents of these communities know they don't want to come back from a period where states open up and their favorite businesses aren't here anymore. today we've seen a lot of hustle and bustle on the street, it's a beautiful day lending to the day one of the first phase of reopening in maryland. we've seen businesses taking precautions, making sure there's less people in their establishments, able to maintain

social distancing, they're wiping everything down, trying to stay as clean as possible. i would note that the majority of people i've seen out here today, joshua, they're wearing masks. they're aware of the fact they're operating in a new normal but they're able to be out of their house a little bit more. >> sounds like they're moving in the right direction by wearing masks and adapting to everything going on. thank you, ali. in arizona the governor's executive order to close nonessential companies expired yesterday. governor doug ducey is urging a arizonans to be caution, tweeting they should follow the cdc guidelines. they're among the states that have not seen a significant drop in infections. compare that to a scant drop in the northeast and a rise in the midwest. von hillyard is in phoenix. how cautious are businesses being there as they reopen?

>> reporter: the businesses are trying their best, joshua. but the reality is the governor can tweet out urging folks to take caution when they're out and about but he's opened the green light for business here, retails, restaurants, casinos, malls are opening today. i was at a water park yesterday where several hundred folks were congregating. you can urge social distancing but the reality of what we've seen, there are folks that are gathering out and about, not adhering to that. more of the backdrop which we are working is the fact that in the last three days, there have been 85 new confirmed deaths and nearly 1,500 new covid cases here in the state of arizona. i want to give you a little bit of a view of where we're at right now. that's chase field, one block over from there is where the phoenix suns, the basketball team in town plays, this is the local church, the one church in

arizona where dr. king actually preached. then i want to take you here. this is a foundation here of arizona. this is mrs. white's golden rule cafe. i want to introduce you to two of our friends here, this is la larry white senior, you're hereby with your daughter, mrs. white is 90 years old. you told me she was at the salon. >> he ran over there. 97 years old running down the street. where you going, mom? to get my hair done. i said drive your car. all right. >> how long have you been in operation? >> since 1964. >> that is 56 years we're talking about. what is this moment, the last two months gianforte like. >> i got to take this off to talk now. it's crazy. the worst thing that ever happened in the united states of america, nationwide, it's worldwide, this epidemic taking over everything. never seen anything like it before, you have 9/11, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, fires but nothing like this

here. only god can straighten this thing up. we're looking for the doctors and god to straighten this out and bring us back to where we were before. all the money is gone. i tell you one thing, i ain't opening till disney land open up. football is out, basketball is out, baseball is out, movie theatres, i didn't think anything about it. but when disney land shutdown, closing ms. white. so sorry las vegas. here we park cars for baseball, the building is right there. he just pointed it out to you. i do baseball -- i'll let you say something in a minute. i do baseball and food parking, i'm losing out. >> the governor says you can open up, but you're choosing not to open up? >> i don't want to open up. my lovely daughter, i'll put a mask on. she have children, she got kids. i be dog gone i let somebody

bring that disease here and brick it to my daughter and grand kids. but i tell you we will be ready to open up. >> we had to come here, i first came here back in high school and then through college and ordered from them twice this week here. there are more than 400 businesses in arizona -- small businesses that have written to the governor here, calling it too soon arizona group saying they're not opening their business despite the financial hardship you are hearing frustration from the state of arizona from folks like the whites here, you have nearly 100 deaths in three days, 1,500 new cases, the state of arizona is not ready to open up. >> first time i go to phoenix i'm going to the golden rule cafe. i appreciate, mr. white, making the comment about not opening until bigger businesses like disneyland opened. i think that's a point well made in terms of looking at larger enterprises to see if corner stones of his community are safe

to open. we'll talk more about that in the hour to come. we appreciate the report, von. much more to come on msnbc. one of the senate's most powerful republicans is under investigation for using privileged information on coronavirus to make money on the stock market. later our panel is here to answer your questions. what should businesses like mr. white's business keep in mind as they reopen? ss keep in mind as they reopen? copd makes it hard to breathe. so to breathe better, i started once-daily anoro. ♪

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richard burr is used to working with privileged information it comes with being chairman of the senate intelligence committee and with being a member of congress, especially in the early days of a crisis like coronavirus. that privilege demands trust. and the fbi wants to know if burr abused that trust to make money. senator burr has stepped down as chair of the intel committee. this week agents seized his cell phone as part of a search warrant. this started after it was

reported on burr selling as much as $1.6 million of his stock in early february. the sales happened as senators were getting closed door briefings on coronavirus and just before the market tanked. the senator denies doing anything wrong and said he relied simply on news reports. the fbi also questioned dianne feinstein at issue stocks her husband traded. a statement from her, she did nothing wrong and had no role in her husband's trades. joining us is the justice reporter for the the niew york times. was there something in particular about these two that made their actions stick out to the fbi? >> first of all, there are others. two more are being infected. but from what our sources are saying it looks like senator burr is the primary target of this investigation.

the evidence that they have gathered so far about him seems to be the most compelling. >> now if i did this, or if you did this, we would instantly be up to our neck in trouble for insider trading, but congress has been criticized for operating under different rules than everybody else. is this an example of that, or is the playing field a bit more level now than what it used to be? >> you know, i think it's a little bit different. we've seen the stock act passed. there are rules governing what you can trade on, especially if you're in the senate and you're able to get nonpublic important information. with senator burr we saw he was given a briefing early in february from the cia talking about how serious the coronavirus was going to be and about some of its possible impacts. about eight days later he made trades, sold off stocks that could be valued more than

$600,000, more than $1 million, it was a significant portion of his portfolio. he said there was a lot of public information in that period in february where we talked about how serious the coronavirus was and certainly publications and stations were talking about how serious things were getting in europe, how bad they had gotten in china, so there is some credibility there. it's hard to prove insider trading for a stock, especially when there's a lot of news around an event. so what investigators have to determine is what information was he given in that briefing? how much of it was not public? that's going to be difficult to sort out. we know the fbi, they had enough probable cause to get a judge to sign off on a warrant to both get senator burr's cell phone and also obtain access to his online accounts like his apple icloud so they'll be going through his messages to see what he was saying to people and if he revealed any non-public

information in his thinking about why those trades should happen. >> kate katy we appreciate your time. >> thank you. there is hardly a community in this country that coronavirus has not affected but it's affecting some much more than others. new data shows hispanic americans are being hit hard. morgan radford joins us with more on that. why is the latino community so much more vulnerable during this crisis? >> experts say it's largely because of three reasons. one latinos are overrespepresen in service industry jobs that require physical contact. but number two, often times latino families are coming home and living in multigenerational homes so you may have a grandmother and grand child in the same home so it's difficult to socially distance.

and when you have 21% of latinos in this country undocumented, people are afraid to report they're sick, they're afraid to report their symptoms and go to the doctor. listen to what some people i spoke to had to say. >> we're concerned that people who are worried that their immigration status is going to impact their access to care won't come in to get care. >> there are people who don't leave. they don't say that they're sick because they're scared. [ speaking non-english ] >> because they're afraid of their status. they don't want to go to a hospital, and it's a huge problem. >> people need to hear it's safe to go get tested and no repercussion is going to be against them, they're not going to get taken away from their family. they just need to stop being afraid of being tested. that's the whole thing. we're spreading it so fast because we're not getting tested

and we're not finding out. >> the reality is, latinos are now the new front lines in the fight against covid-19. so if you dive into the numbers in cities like new york, which is obviously hard hit, latinos are dieing at twice the rate from covid-19 compared to their white counter parts. you go west to say utah, their infection rate is five times higher than their white counter parts. and look at the city of chicago, 42% of those cases are amongst latinos. so now cities are trying to get the word out and keep people safe. >> thank you, morgan. coming up, how do you know when it's time to reopen? businesses across the country are facing that tough question. we'll meet two restaurant owners balancing with protecting lives with protecting livelihoods. and our economic panel is here to answer some of your questions just ahead. stay close. your questions

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it's scary. are these people going to want to come back out? will it be enough to see us through our slower months until we hit the high season again? i don't know. i don't know. >> if the businesses don't start opening up and we can't have a restaurant back open, i don't know how much longer we can survive at this rate. >> i think we all agree that the safety of the customers and our employees and our associates are the most important things. so i can't afford to open and then close again. people are traumatized. >> as if restauranters did not have enough to worry about on an average day. now they have to decide if it's safe to do business as usual. business owners across the country are facing this dilemma

in nearly every state as restrictions are gradually lifted. new york state is hardest hit but even it's starting to reopen businesses. the city is far from ready but seven regions meet the benchmark for phase one. governor andrew cuomo will let areas decide on reopening. memorial day is unofficial start of summer, it should be a great time for restaurants but with the work needed to keep employees and venders and customers safe, can they afford to open now? on the other hand, can they afford not to? joining me is emily mendenhall, she is holding off on reopening. also with us is vin chencho

bitulea. he's reopening. vinchezo let me start with you, what sealed your decision to reopen? florida is allowing restaurants to reopen, not mandating they reopen, what made the decision for you? >> we technically never closed. i have three restaurants, 230 employees. for us i cannot afford to stay closed for as long as it's been. it's been nearly eight weeks. we right away transitioned into carry out, into delivery. we turned into a neighborhood grocery store. you know as a business owner, small business owner, it's my duty to not only put food on the table of my own family but on the table of my 230 employees as well. so we have to do what we have to do. we lost some of our season,

unfortunately. but now we have to grind this out. >> what's your plan for doing dine in service? how will that work now? >> so the governor has opened us up last week to 25% of interior dining. so what we're doing is we have our tables separated by 6 feet, and then we also have stations for sanitizing menus. we have staff that go through the dining room sanitizing high volume areas. so people have been cooped up and they want to come out. again, the restaurant industry and the hospitality industry in my area, naples, florida is a large stitch in the fabric of the community. >> i know that naples is dealing with other matters like wildfires in southwest florida. so a lot is going on. emily i'm sure you had conversations with your staff

because they must be antsy to get back to work. what about you? how are you doing right now? are you doing all right with takeout and delivery in terms of staying closed? >> we also have not closed through this. we've been doing curb side carry out. after the first week we made that contactless carry out and delivery. we have a lot of outdoor spaces. this about maybe eight days ago our governor, dewine, said we could reopen yesterday on patio spaces, but we made a decision for my staff, i talked to a lot of my employees, i talked to a lot of my regs aulars and busin owners and had to think about our space specifically. i want to stress that every business is making really hard decisions right now, and i don't think any of us are doing it right or wrong. we're all working to put -- you know, balance all these different factors.

but me in my space personally we have three different outdoor areas and three different in door areas, it's a lot of ground to cover when it comes to sanitizing things. so we decided we wanted to give it a little more time and start taking -- i started ordering things that i knew we would need to reopen in a way that i think is the most ethical for our customers and for our staff. >> with regard to that reopening, emily, before i have to let you two go, how's the future look for you now? do you think you'll bounce back to where you were, maybe better? >> i think it's different long term. we're going to pivot to a more casual style of service. if there's one thing small business owners now is how to be resilient as much as we can. but the name of the game is adapt, adapt, adapt. it gets hard every day, every week to figure it out. but we'll do the best we can.

>> emily and vincenzo. i know both of you have unique and similar issues to deal with. wish you the best as you get back to full strength thank you for making time for us. joining us is dr. patel, katy fang, and jolene kent. we want to get to questions that overlap issues we heard from the two guests and what the future might look like. let's start with you dr. patel with a question from ann. ann asks, i read the cdc is issuing guidelines for businesses to reopen. who can employees contact if they feel their employers aren't following them? will local health departments be monitoring them? doctor? >> great question. the cdc guidance, to summarize,

states that you have to have follow your local official's i guidance, put those measures like the two restaurant owners are considering in place, and have some sort of effective ongoing monitoring in place. so to the viewer's question, unfortunately the public health officials even in counties and cities don't have the infrastructure. so the most logical place is going to be some of the city's kind of 311 lines. unfortunately the local health authority alone is not going to be able to cover this, so my advice would be 311, local officials and hopefully that will get routed through the health department at some point. >> very brief before i move on, it sounds like you said the cdc guidance was to follow the local guidance. is the cdc's guidance even guidance if it's to follow your local guidance? >> let me try to answer that as

efficiently as possible. the first case that it really does emfulxemplify is we don't a national guidance. i would say having talked to national health officials in florida and ohio they also would definitely like. so the first a dray of guidance is follow the local health official's guidance, along with their recommendations at the cdc, which are pretty hard. one concern i would raise as a small business opener is that they have to be concerned about how they can get advice to follow all these disinfectant cleanings, frequent stations, hand washing, et cetera, it's not easy to navigate. >> jolene, ester asks, i'm concerned about my hair salon that just reopened this week. i'm grateful that we are able to be back in distance but i'm worried the salon might not recover. we lost so much being closed for

weeks on end and i missed out on being able to secure a ppp loan. what can i do to save my livelihood? >> my heart goes out to ester, every business is struggling with this problem. you can still apply for a ppp loan, you can try that route, though we know it's been super frustrating. if that doesn't work out, you can also look for small business grants from big tech companies like papal, facebook, verizon, square. they're all putting out grants for you to apply for. you may want to also pick up the phone to your banker and have a conversation with that person and ask if there's a way to get a line of credit. another thing to look at too you're a woman small business owner, you may be able to apply for state and city grants available to women business owners out there. but i certainly hear where that question is really coming from from deep inside where you're

worried about consumer confidence and worried about keeping the doors open and employees your loyal staff. it's a hard thing to do but there is money out there for ester to apply for. >> one more question. this comes from jenny. can servers or restaurant owners be legally held accountable if outbreaks can be traced to their establishments? will general liability insurance cover those kinds of legal claims? katy? >> that's a great question, joshua. every state deals with these types of negligence arguments that are made and the usual sense is you go to a place and there's a slip and fall because the restaurant didn't maintain it properly. this is a new legal front for business owners and the cdc guidelines we heard dr. patel talk about, those are the baseline, safe harbor things that business owners should be doing if they're trying to insulate themselves from liability. but the standard applied from a legal perspective is, would a

reasonably prudent person do the following safeguards, and so we heard, for example, in florida that you're supposed to open up to 25% capacity for your inside restaurant. but if you have a business owner that gets aggressive and wants to open up to 50%, then he or she may expose themselves to liability if somebody gets sick. let's be honest here. if you have a 14 day incubation period from a legal standpoint it's going to be difficult to prove that the actual infection point was at that particular business. and so, my advice to business owners is to follow the cdc guidelines and in addition i would also check your insurance policies because insurance policies are known, joshua, as policies of exclusion and not inclusion. so it'll be put forth in language in your policy if you're a business owner whether you're covered for this type of virus lawsuit. >> who knows what that will turn to in the future. if we can tell what strains came

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graduation is supposed to be a celebration, but coronavirus has robbed these ceremonies of their usual pomp under the circumstance. college is supposed to prepare you for the job market but now the market is trying to prepare itself for a future after the outbreak. this challenge is uniquely tough for some historically black colleges and universities. this afternoon more than 20 african-american leaders took part in show me your walk, hbcu edition. this celebrated the students at these vital institutions. today's guest was former president barack obama. he's set to deliver his keynote

address any minute now. p priscilla thompson is in houston. what are these hbcus dealing with and how are students handling it. >> reporter: students tell me they're in disbelief. it feels as if it's surreal, as though they're in a movie dealing with this. a number of them feel conflicted about the idea of being sad of missing a graduation or not having a graduation when there's so much turmoil happening around the world. but this is a major milestone at these students at these historically black colleges and universities where more than 50% of them are the first in their families to graduate. so this is the first for the families and communities that have supported them over the past couple of years. not only that, they're headed into an uncertain job market. i spoke to students about their

concerns not only for their futures but also the futures of the universities. listen to what they said. >> the three of us were not expecting to graduate in our homes. >> we've gotten these degrees and now it's time for us to go and work or go to grad school but now it's like we don't even know what that's going to look like, especially since we have like, what, 14% like unemployment right now. >> one of the big things that brings students to an hbcu is campus life. so with the pandemic going on, i know a lot of that is going to get cut short. i don't know what the fall entails but if classes are going to be online i think that may deter some students. >> reporter: that is the question for a number of hbcus and colleges across the country. what is that fall enrollment going to look like, and what does that mean for these storied institutions. the good news is a number of students were able to

participate in some form of a virtual graduation and many have been invited back to campus in the fall for an inperson graduation. >> you said that 50% of these students are the first in their family to graduate college? did i hear that correctly? >> reporter: more than 50% of the students who attend hbcus are first generation. >> that is why missing the ceremony is so important, having that many people in the crowd able to look at their loved one across the stage and say we have changed the future of our family. i think that loss is deeper on hbcus than it is a lot of other places. thank you priscilla. by the way, set your dvr, president obama will speak again tonight for a special program graduate together 2020. join us for virtual commencement like none other tonight at 8:00

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playing baseball, i love to do that, i want to get back out on the field. we're also waiting for mlb and owners plan for testing and keeping us safe. those are our valid points. i guess my main message would be that we're willing and ready to play, and we're waiting on a plan for mlb. and our p.a. is going to go over it and make sure our safety concerns are covered. we all want the pastime back, trying to show my support for being ready to get out there. >> i assume -- i don't want to deal in hyperbole, if you started playing and got covid-19 you wouldn't say, it's all worth it. >> i try not to think of those scenarios, i try to promote my own health, my own -- taking care of my own body, being a professional around heat, playing every day i have to deal

with sleep and diet, and all these things that take care of my health. limiting my own risk. maybe some more hand washing, not seeing as many people, not going out to eat. all these things can eliminate my risk, being out there is something i think i can do. >> what do you make of the league's proposal. i heard one player say there is no way he will take cuts or decisions to play under more dangerous circumstances. how does the offer look to you? >> i know the p.a. is still going over it, they're trying to change up the divisions, whether the n.l. central would play against the a.l. central. i can understand those types of measures, overall, waiting to hear back from the p.a. as they comb through mlb's plan. >> you've been working to make learning more fun for kids during this. can you tell us about that? >> wrae, i'm partnering with

tops baseball cards. they created these special cards for me that. they're educational related. and i want to be an ambassador for science, literally. mlb and i teamed up and kids submitted video questions about science and baseball questions. i enjoyed answering them and seeing the kids curiousity. really just trying to be an ambassador for science and learning, especially during these times where independence is really strong. >> always glad to meet a science nerd. that will never be the wrong answer for me. andrew cuomo said he would be willing to let the yankees and mets play without fans in the stands if certain health measures were reached. what's your reaction to that? if you had to play without the cardinals faithful in the stands. >> we don't know how much 40,000 fans a night can affect us through the a 162 game schedule.

i know it will be an adjustment, having an even playing field matters the most, and if we're all in this boat together it becomes the competitive nature that we all have, i love our team and the st. louis cardinals, we're going to compete whether there's fans out there in the stands or just watching at home. >> how far do you think you'll make it this season? >> i like our chances to go to the world series. we were so close last year, we ran into a buzz saw with the washington nationals. more confidence, more experience, it all adds up. >> paul de young of the sait. louis cardinals. thanks for talking to us. coming up, more questions over race and violence. until we meet again i'm joshua johnson we'll meet back here tomorrow at 3:00 eastern. the knees continues next with aleisha menendez on msnbc.

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