lives. his early travel restrictions and quarantines protected the american public as we look to the future, we have the president who ushered in the hottest economy in modern history ready to do it a second time. here are the facts. nearly 90,000 americans have died. and while states look to reopen, it will take months if not years to recover from the economic fallout. to try to help, the house passed a $3 trillion relief package which president trump has already threatened to veto. the bill would provide another round of relief money to americans, allocate more money for testing, give billions to food stamp programs and a trillion for states hard hit by

the virus. while the house is acting, the president is at camp david. where he's drumming up a phony conspiracy theory. >> you stopped airing the trump briefings and you keep airing the cuomo briefings. go home, fake news. >> you are the enemy of the people. you are the enemy -- you. >> are fake news, you all know about it. we know about your agenda, we know you want to keep your job. we get it. >> you're not going to answer, you're just going to go live. other people are not getting paychecks. >> that's why we're here. >> you used to be a good channel at one time. i don't know what happened to you. >> joining me now, white house bureau chief for the washington post phillip rucker, carol lee

and marra gaye. welcome to all three of you. this is a tough one, because the president has thrown out a word, a name, you asked him about it, and it was quite a remarkable moment, it's one of those -- of all the crazy things that have happened in the last three and a half years, you asked him what obamagate was, you were doing your job as a reporter. and he said, everybody knows what it is. he's throwing out a conspiracy theory because he's trying to redirect the conversation from what we keep talking about, coronavirus on to other things. what do you think his goal is here? >> ali, there are a couple things going on here, he's trying to distract from the focus on his management of this pandemic which has been widely criticized and it's one of the reasons why his approval ratings have been suffering the last couple months, he's also trying to rewrite history and specifically rewrite the

narrative of the russia investigation which dogd him for more than two years at the beginning of his term. a number of officials close to the president including the former national security adviser michael flynn pleaded guilty in elements of that investigation. and, you know, this is something that the president has been trying to kind of have a do over on, to change the script, the narrative so to speak, and he and his allies seem to have found the way to do it with flynn by alleging this theory that somehow flynn was set up by the deep state as the president culpable. >> marra gaye, it is may 16th, one month ago in april you were doing something that was pretty normal for you, you went out for a five mile run and a ten mile walk and then you walked up to your apartment, the next day you found out you had coronavirus.

>> it was a three mile run, you have to keep me honest. >> fair enough. that's three miles more than i do. >> that's right, though. i got very sick on april 17th, i really haven't felt the same since. and, you know, my message to americans is, i understand you're frustrated, but even if you do choose to go out and go to work and do what you need to do, please take reasonable precautions to protect yourself and others. wear a mask. i am 33 years old, very healthy, and i got so sick that i was on all fours at one point in order to get a good breath. i ended up at the er, i have no underlying conditions. just anecdotally here in new york, we're seeing and hearing a lot of that. and it's not just older people, or people with underlying conditions who are getting sick. those lives matter just as much

to begin with, but just to be clear, it is a roll of the dice getting this virus. i've never smoked before, i don't have asthma, it's a month later and i'm still recovering from pneumonia, i use two inh e inhalers every day. just keep that in mind. >> we're going to talk about that in greater detail a little later, i think it's important for people to understand the depth of it. the president said -- he made a weird promise about getting a virus by the end of the year -- i'm sorry, a vaccine. we're going to talk about why that's unrealistic. he said vaccine or no vaccine, we're back to business. the president is going out of his way to convince people that it doesn't matter what the scientists tell you, we're back to business, that's primarily the thing he wants. that's the message he wants out there, he believes that's his best chance for re-election. >> that's absolutely right. that's the focus, and that's

what we've seen in the last few weeks as the president has tried to shift the focus on to the economy, because they know -- the president and his team knows that's where he has his best chances of trying to win re-election, because his handling of the coronavirus is now going to be on the ballot. and the vaccine has pushed for this vaccine, is all about making people -- there's -- if you talk to people around the president they'll say, we're not expecting the economy to be rebounding and everyone has their jobs back, but people need to feel like it's moving in that direction. like that things are getting better, and they're going to get better and president trump is the one who can make them get better and a vaccine plays into that, the other thing is, we have some reporting over the weekend that the president, as this coronavirus task force fades into the background a little bit and is being filled with folks who are focused on the vaccine. there's an unofficial task force that's taking shape that he listens to more than anybody.

and it's this re-election task force, names that are familiar to everyone, campaign, white house, outside advisers. they're increasingly getting around the president and trying to get him to do things that put in policies he can possibly put in place, but also to give people the feeling that things are going to get better, one of the people that's involved in this is karl rove, he helped president bush win a second term in 2004 when the iraq war was a big issue and not doing well. he's advising that they maybe move more in the way they handled that campaign. they thought they were going to run one campaign and now they have to run an entirely different one because of the pandemic. >> phil, here's the interesting thing, it would be one thing if what kayleigh mcenany said, the

president created a hot committee. the twitter activity of the president in the last few days would suggest he's focused elsewhere. he's tweeted nearly two dozen times about obamagate, he's talking about mike fling a lot, the russia investigation, he's talking about comey, the fbi. and he went and fired the inspector general of the state department who apparently was investigating mike pompeo, but the white house didn't give a really robust reason for that. everything the president has done in the last few days does not seem focused on the economy, or coronavirus. it seems focused on russia, spies, flynn, obama, biden, all that kind of stuff. >> yeah, that's exactly right. it's not unusual for the president's twitter feed to be all over the map. we've seen this for years now, but it has been really striking in the last week the degree to which the president's been distracted and been focusing on any number of other issues.

and what it reveals -- and we know this based on our reporting, talking to people in the white house and close to the president. he feels under siege right now, his popularity has taken a hit during this pandemic. the coronavirus, which he thought at one time would magically disappear is here and is here to stay, and the death toll is rising, the number of cases is spreading, the economic impact is brutal and devastating, and far reaching, and continues to expand the number of people who are unemploy unemployed. and the president doesn't have an easy solution to get out of this, he feels stuck, according to our reporting, and one of the reasons why he's been all over the place on his twitter feed is, he's using that as an opportunity to vent and to draw attention of his base -- that millions of people who follow his tweets elsewhere, to look at other shiny objects, including the scandal that he has dubbed obama gate regarding flynn, but including a number of other

things in that video that you showed earlier today. he shared with his followers twice of those protesters yelling at -- verbally abusing a local news reporter. >> marra, what do you make of that? we saw that video, it's one thing to see the video, this was a local reporter in long island, not a guy known for any politicization, or even those of us involved, not even involved in an organization that does anything in terms of politics in that way. the president retweeted that video, he said, fake news is not essential. what's going on there? >> well, first of all, i would just say that as a citizen myself, these are adults that we saw and i believe they should act like it. they should be held accountable and responsible and treated like adults. and responsible for their behavior. that said, unfortunately, i think they have been whipped up

by an echo chamber from fox news to the president. and i think that their frustration while understandable is by the way, shared by millions of americans who are trying to protect themselves and one another by staying home. if they are frustrated they should look no further than the white house, which has massively failed to prevent and manage this epidemic, pandemic. the lack of testing combined with the lack of health care infrastructure and other measures that make our -- that should make our society strong, but that we don't have in the united states are what is preventing us from trying to reopen our businesses and not to mention the fact that small businesses especially are struggling because congress didn't protect them. >> marra, we're going to talk to you later in the show, phil rucker, the white house bureau chief for the washington post.

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the time line for a coronavirus vaccine is once again under the micro scope as the world's greatest medical minds search for a cure. president trump touting operation warp speed. a program that can find a vaccine by the end of the year or sooner. >> there's never been a vaccine project like this any time in the country. i warrant to make something important, vaccine or no vaccine, we're back, and we're

starting the process. >> let me give you context here, the fastest the medical community has ever developed a vaccine was four years for the measles. his dialogue contradicts the opinions of most medical experts who say the virus won't disappear until we have a vaccine, the process of finding a cure cannot be rushed. joining me now, dr. peter hotez. >> if we rush too quickly and consider cutting out critical steps we may not have a full assessment of the safety of that vaccine. so it's still going to take some time. i still think 12 to 18 months is an aggressive schedule. and i think it's going to take longer than that to do so. >> joining me now, dr. peter hotez, dean at baylor college of medicine. and dr. vin gupta, pulmonologist at the university of washington medical center, and an msnbc

medical contributocontributor. peter, you and i talked before i think -- this is really early on in this thing, it was in february, before we had any meaningful community contraction of this disease. let's talk about vaccines for a minute. there are lots of parts of vaccine production. some of which can actually be shortened because you can accelerate, you can bring all the researchers together. you can accelerate certain parts of it, there's the phase one, two and three clinical trials which are human trials which have to be conducted on a statistically important number of people who do not have antibodies who are likely to get the infection to see whether it works or not, and to see whether they develop any other reactions or illnesses. i don't know if we know how to speed that up to warp speed. >> congratulations, you learned vaccine 101, that's exactly right. this is what the problem is, we'll have lots of vaccine

candidates moving into clinical trials, there are already some that have begun. the exact number that goes into clinical trials in the u.s., we don't know for certain, probably -- it could be up to 2 dozen vaccine candidates before it's over. we'll then move probably into some of the phase three studies as you mentioned, those are the largest trials with tens of thousands of individuals. for some, maybe not all the vaccines, starting maybe toward the end of the summer, beginning of the fall. and then we're probably looking at at least a year before we're going to accumulate enough data to show these vaccines actually work, and they're safe before we can even think about licensing a vaccine. so from my perspective. and the traditional vaccine development cycle. the earliest would be toward the end of 2021, which would be a record. that's an incredibly aggressive time line given that things

never often go quite as planned. that's roughly what we're looking at. we can accelerate certain things, we can start manufacturing some of these vaccines as dr. fauci says are at risk. 3450e7k we start producing them in large quantities if we know they're safe and they work. we know we can throw them away if need be. we're getting lots of vaccine candidates, i think it's all -- i've never seen anything quite like it, we're working day and night to get our vaccine into clinical trials, but by the end of the year, i just don't see a path by which that happens. >> there was an article in the lance it which was the kind of thing that you and peter read, most laypeople don't read this sort of thing. without preparation for the quality assurance of diagnostic tests, drugs and vaccines, the world risks a parallel pandemic

of southbound standard and falsified products. interventions are needed to safe quality assured and effective medical products on which the world's population will depend. the reason i quote this is because the president has been somewhat cavalier in his recommendation of drugs, in his talking about disinfectants working inside the body and sunlight working inside the body. one could dismiss that as generally harmless stuff. but when it comes to the development of therapeutics and vaccines, you cannot be cavalier about this, the wrong stuff can kill people. >> that's exactly right, ali. i'm going to focus in on ppe. you heard in dr. bright's testimony, that ppe, that's sourced overseas because we don't have enough in our strategic national stockpile. that ppe may have been as 30% effective as the real thing in

the united states. i've been in the icu intermittently over the last several months. if we're using substandard ppe, that's propagating a whole health care worker crisis when it comes to covid infection. whether it's hydroxy chloroquine which was the focus of the gop at the dr. bright testimony strangely enough despite new evidence that that's been debunked as a therapy. this misinformation campaign, falsified or just pure quality ppe will propagate a substandard or second pandemic, and we can't tolerate that. dr. hotez can't tolerate it, he's trying to come up with therapeutics and vaccines, nobody can. you're 100% right. >> dr. hotez, i recall when i first talked to you, you were

discussing an effort on your part to develop a vaccine for something similar to the coronavirus we have. but the problem you faced is funding for it. it wasn't thought of as a hot thing. >> that's right. we have a group at texas children's hospital and baylor college of medicine, it's a center that makes vaccines for poverty related neglected diseases. and then a lot of them are parasitic infections for the world's poor, moving those through, product and clinical development. then about a decade ago, we took on coronavirus vaccines because nobody cared about those either. and so we've been developing coronavirus vaccines for the last decade, and one of those now we feel we can move into clinical trials. it was really interesting how we went from absolutely nobody carrying about this. our vaccines to suddenly something happen in january, and all of a sudden there was some

interest. i'm not sure what happened there, but now we are -- we've been able to get some federal support and some private support. we have this great partnership known as path. they are the ones that led the development of the meningococcal a vaccine for africa. now we're partnering with them because this is one of the things we learned over the years. is to make low cost vaccines. affordable low cost vaccines that could be adopted even in resource poor countries. our vaccine uses the same technology that's used for the hepatitis b vaccine made in places like india and brazil. we think we're a ways down the path, together with path to develop what could be a global health vaccine for covid-19. as you know, covid-19 is ripping through brazil, causing terrible devastation in parts of south america.

it will be in india over the summer. we hope we can make a contribution there. >> i before that up only because when you talk about the time line of being toward the end of 2021, you're somebody who's actually had a head start, you understand the vaccine, you understand what the potential candidates are, and you're saying that, i really want president trump to be right. i want anybody who can get a vaccine out early, but we should never want a vaccine to be out there that is not tested, that has not gone through proper clinical testing or determined to be safe. we're going to stick this thing in the arms of hundreds of millions of people around the world. i hope you've continued to play the role that you've been playing. thank you again. the director of the center for vaccine development. dr. vin gupta is a friend to our show, a pulmonologist and health expert. why top democrats are

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late last night on a friday night president trump notified congress of his intention to fire state department inspector general steve linnick. he cited a lack of confidence in him for his removal. mike pompeo recommended the move and the president agreed. elliott engle released a statement calling the removal an outrage use act claiming he was fired after launching a probe into secretary pompeo. engle and senator bob menendez are now launching a bicammeral investigation into his removal. the ousting was just the latest in the string of late night

retaliations against federal watchdogs who aren't in lock step with the current administration. ken dilanian, i think a lot of people don't know what these inspector generals do. there's an allegation, something floating out there that this guy linnick was investigating his boss, which an inspector general can do, mike pompeo. for what? do we know what this is about? >> we're not 100% sure, but we're being told that the investigation had to do with an allegation that mike pompeo was asking state department officials to run personal errands. we're not sure about that. to broaden this out a little bit, these inspector generals are the watchdogs of the government, literally, they're supposed to be independent actors. this one was appointed in 2013

by president obama. he had a reputation as a nonpartisan straight shooter. he did a report in 2016 about hillary clinton's use of a private email server that really hurt her presidential campaign. there's no allegation that he was -- he had it in for president trump or he was a democratic operative. this is part of a pattern, ali, of firing inspector generals that in any other administration, i feel like we've had this conversation a few times, would be a major scandal. back in 2006, when george w. bush fired people, there were hearings. that was a huge thing that took up a lot of oxygen. here we are in the trump administration, and in the middle of a pandemic, it remains to be seen if this story will get the oxygen it deserves. not just democrats, but republicans are upset by this, charles grassley, has said he

wants to see written justification for this firing. >> this is not the swath, right? if you didn't like washington and you wanted to drain the swamp, the inspector generals are not where you would start. these are the people who have been the bull work against the swamp. they are the ones who try to ensure they're following the rules. on wall street they're called compliance officers. in the news business they're ombudsmen. >> that's right. you have u.s. attorneys prosecuting crimes. inspector generals are receiving allegations about misconduct that may or may not be a crime. it's something that needs to be investigated. the workings of the federal government that the general public is never going to see. but they can save the government hundreds of millions of dollars with their audits. they protect whistle blowers.

the man that president trump fired, he was handling a case involved in the impeachment hearing. this inspector general will have to remain in office for 30 days, you have to notify congress when you're firing an inspector general. he has an absolute right to fire the inspector general, but if he did it to stop a lawfully construed investigation, that's a scandal, that's corruption and it's something i don't think members of congress are going to tolerate. >> you know what else is a scandal, ken? you have a dog that wants a meal right now. you. >> may be right. >> i'm going to let you take care of that. always good to see you my friend. covering national security and intelligence. coming up, how the pandemic is disproportionately affecting native americans in this country and what the federal government is or isn't doing to help. apar, but that doesn't mean you're in this alone. we're automatically refunding our customers

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their communities in the c.a.r.e.s. act that was passed almost two months ago. joining me now, author, attorney, jossie ross, he's the host of the pod cast breakdances with wolves. this is hard to articulate, because we are talking about americans who in many cases did not have access to broadband internet, do not have access to running water to wash their hands. and now there's a double whammy, a lot of the income comes from casinos which are closed and the lack of health care is hitting native americans harder than it's hitting the greater pop laigs. >> yeah, well, i would even extend that further. first of all, thank you for having me, and bringing this topic up. i would say it's a triple whammy, because we have the health care disparities which

are the byproduct of hundreds of years of neglect as well as specific policies that created these disparities within native communities. you have the economic hit that happened to our communities. and that's something that has -- within any community in the hands of a white supremacist, all of these things, they become tools of white supremacy. native people along with black people along with latinax people have been within the per view of donald trump and his administration's white supremacy. i would add a third wheel to that, we've been criminalized in this white supremacist regime that has taken advantage of this coronavirus pandemic and native people's behaviors have been criminalized to the degree that the governor of south dakota was talking about taking legal

action against the cheyenne river sioux tribe as well as the oguala sioux tribe for taking action to have checkpoints to make sure that nonnatives and outside people are not bringing diseases, bringing this killer into our communities that is affecting us dispar italy. >> we have been talking about government action with the cheyenne nation for more than 200 years and it continues. despite the complaints with the current administration, the fact is, this is deep rooted. we have done this for well over 100 years in the way we look at our native brethren, in a world in which we are spending lots of money to try to fix a lot of things. what should we be even thinking about with respect to native americans? because i don't think it's an asterisk to most people? >> yeah, well, thank you. that's a really important question.

where do you start when you're literally hundreds of years behind. that's what you're asking. that's obviously a very very deep and profound question. but one of the ways that you start fixing inequities is by stopping committing those inequities in present tense. the problem is, yes, absolutely, we have to get out of these entrenched disparities that have been going on for a long time. as we saw with this stimulus bill, the c.a.r.e.s. act, the $8 billion that was earmarked for native communities has not gotten to us. >> it's just starting. >> yeah, it's just now starting. we're not only talking about past harms, we're talking about a continuous harm that's still ongoing, and that's why i specifically bring up the trump administration, the trump administration is the one that's doing those harms. >> let's talk about the health consequences. there was a story in one of the newspapers the other day about a

doctor, a native american doctor goes to work at a hospital, saves people, helps them with coronavirus, comes back to where she lives where there is not returning water. we have places where kids are having to stay at home and get their education at home, and most of us are grateful the internet didn't break, but there are a lot of indian tribes in this country that don't have broadband internet. we have some basic infrastructure issues we should be dealing with, so when we come out of this recession, we at least have our native brothers and sisters on a similar platform -- a similar standing than we are. >> we're a long ways away from that. and as we talked about previously. i liked certain of the political candidates platforms, specifically, elizabeth warren had a platform regarding broadband access. there's so many others -- like

zuni pueblo in arizona. when you think about right now in realtime, there's no school going on, these students are getting further and further behind, that further compounds the ongoing inequities, educational and otherwise that have been happening. in order to fix this past disparities that we talked about, we have to first stop the hemorrhaging that's going on in realtime that are being perpetuated by this particular administration, and we're not doing that. we're so far away from that. and we have to conceptualize that happening in order for any sort of justice to happen, ali. >> i only hope that this crisis has not made it worse, at least -- at least the issue of native americans was showing up on the platforms of some of the presidential candidates. but now that we're in this crisis, once again, it probably falls off. and i hope that isn't the case, and you and i will try to make sure that is not the case by

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data from across the country and the world show that but it doesn't mean younger people aren't at risk. according to the cdc, about 3% of americans who have died during this pandemic. in new york city, there are thousands in that same age group who have contracted the virus. "the new york times," hoping everyone takes this more seriously. she contracted covid-19 about a month ago. and she still doesn't feel the same. mara rights in "the new york times," quote, the second day i was sick, i woke up to what felt like hot tar buried deep in my chest. i could not get a deep breath, unless i was on all fours. i'm healthy. amy a runne i'm a runner. i am 33 years old. mara gay is back with me.

and, mara, reading your description of this and i know you. i've seen you in person. i can vouch for the fact that you're fit. so you don't use your words loosely. for you to say you felt like you had hot tar in your lungs, this is what i have heard from everybody who is sort of in our broad age category who gets this. it is worse than anything they've, generally, ever felt. >> yeah. there's so much that we don't know about that virus. and, certainly, it's -- there are some folks who are very fortunate who are, either, asymptomatic or have extremely mild cases. and that's definitely possible. but i really hoped that people can understand that you're rolling the dice because no matter how young or fit you are or healthy, there's no guarantee that this virus won't attack your body, in a really horrific way. and there are lots of us, in new

york, who are young or younger and healthy, who have no underlying conditions, who have been extremely, extremely sick. and are still recovering one month, two month in -- two months in. >> so here is how i think about this. i live in new york city. i have health insurance. i'm healthy. if something happened to me, i'd call an ambulance. they'd come get me. they'd take me to one of these fancy hospitals in new york. and whatever it was, they h'd figure it out. your description of the time in the hospital sounded fearful. it sounded like you weren't 100% sure that they knew they could do a lot for you. >> yeah. i want to be clear. i believe that i received the best care available, and i am extremely grateful for the doctors and nurses who looked at me. i was not on a ventilator. others were far sicker than i was. i was, ultimately, able to go home and manage the disease on my own, with the help of several

close friends of mine, who are medical professionals, doctors, and physicians assistants and checked on me every day. but the reality is, there really is not a great treatment right now for covid. and so it's really hard to have a caring, capable doctor look you in the eye and say, you know, i wish i could do something for you. that's a scary, scary moment for both you and the doctor. and i think one thing that has really gotten missed here is how little information is out there for americans who are ill, thousands, if not more, of us. and i think there needs to be more focus on getting doctors to people's homes for house checks, which is something that they're doing in germany. and i just, as a public service, i'll share with americans what my medical friends and doctors have told me, which is that if you are sick and you are able to

have an oximeter at home, if your oxygen dips below 95, please call a doctor or go to the er. also, sleeping on my stomach has helped me a lot. i am still doing it a month later. and, also, breathing exercises. >> mara, i just want to mention because you -- you wrote in there about this whole idea of house calls that are going on in germany. and you were saying one thing i learned is how startlingly little advice is available to the millions of americans managing symptom ts at home. and i know you mean that -- look, you're somebody who knows how to research and get information. but part of that is the degree to which we have just not had a centralized message about this. we have so politicized this message in america that it is actually unclear what you feel, what you're supposed to do about it because we're constantly fighting about whether this is a serious thing or not. >> that's right. one of the hardest things for me was being sick, laying on my

stomach at night trying to sleep. and i -- i live in new york. so listening to the ambulances coming for my neighbors, all night long. and really wondering how many of my neighbors were not going to make it. not necessarily because of the virus. but because they didn't get the help or the medical advice that they needed, when they needed it. i'm still processing that. and having a hard time with it. a lot of people think that we don't know our neighbors here in new york but we do. and we actually lost an estimated 24,000 new yorkers in just under two months here in new york city. which is actually double -- more than double the number we lost to homicides in over 20 years. so this is a very serious virus. and i just really -- i want americans to understand they should take it seriously. just because you don't live in a

big city doesn't mean that you shouldn't protect yourself and your neighbors and family and friends. >> when people ask me what i remember from this time, i mean, it's not as series today as it was in manhattan a month ago. but all i remember is the sound of those sirens. they are sirens i haven't heard since 9/11. the number of one given day, there were 7,000 911 calls in new york city so we will remember those frontline workers, and we'll remember those people who have continued to suffer through this. and we are so pleased that you're making a recovery, mara. mara gay, member of the "new york times" editorial board. and msnbc contributor. you can catch me back here tomorrow morning from 8 to 10:00 a.m. eastern for velshi. i am joined by karl nacine of washington, d.c. and dana nessel of michigan. that's tomorrow morning. 8 to 10:00 a.m. w morning. 8 to 10:00 a.m whoo! don't do it.

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thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. i am superhappy to have you here with us. i'm sorry i was 22 seconds late. long story. i will tell you someday. all right. i want to tell you something that happened sort of behind the scenes at the rachel maddow show this week that has been interesting. earlier this week, this happened over the course of a few days. but, by earlier this week, we obtained a whole bunch of internal e-mails from a va medical center. specifically, from the va medical center in minneapolis.