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first up here on msnbc, a dramatic step forward in reopening the country. this morning, who is all for it and who is not? >> today, i'm going to pick up something from a local store. i'm doing curbside. i'm not ready until i see how other people are social distancing. >> i'm excited to get out of the house after two months. >> my concern is there will be states that get it wrong and the price will be paid in human lives. also, friday night firing. new reporting about who might have urged the president to fire the state department's inspector general. graduate together. the message for the class of 2020 from celebrities and our former commander in chief. >> so much of your generation has woken up to the fact that the status quo needs fixing. >> reporter: that's not all, he said. the other comments that president obama made that are getting a lot of attention this morning. good morning to all of you.
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it's sunday, may 17th. i'm alex witt. we look at cincinnati. the governor allowed bars and restaurants to reopen patios on friday. if they're open today, it looks to be a beautiful day there. indoor dining is still prohibited. will it be enough for dining in cincinnati today. the forecast is 84 degrees. the answer is yes. here's the facts at this hour. nearly every state in the country has partially reopened. and states are gearing up to ease more restrictions. tomorrow, minnesota is set to lift lockdowns. in florida, miami-dade and broward counties will reopen. and gyms in texas will be open on monday. overnight, houses of worship in north carolina will be allowed to temporarily reopen. a judge blocked the governor's order to allow gathering of ten people. it allows stores to open at 50% capacity and 50 can gather for
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funerals. nascar returns after a ten-week high eatuhiatus. it's the first major sport to return after the pandemic. the race will be in north carolina without fans. a new criticism from former president barack obama. giving commencement speeches on saturday, the former president took aim at his successor, giving the most direct criticism of the trump administration's handling of the coronavirus pandemic. there are 89,000 people have died with coronavirus. let's go monica alba at the white house with the former president's remarks and the current white house response to all of it. what's the reaction? >> reporter: good morning, alex. for weeks, we heard president trump take aim at his predecessor, directly as it relates to the coronavirus
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pandemic. now, we are hearing for the first time from president barack obama, in his own words about the federal administration's response to this health crisis. what's significant, is a week ago, we heard obama take on the administration, without using the president's name. but now, as a part of a commencement special, we are hearing a lot more of his thoughts on the pandemic. take a listen to his remarks in that graduation special. >> more than anything, this pandemic has torn back the curtain on the idea that so many of the folks in charge know what they're doing. a lot of them aren't even pretending to be in charge. if the world's going to get better, it will be up to you. >> reporter: traditionally, alex, you would see in white houses past, that a current sitting president would reach out to his predecessor for advice, especially during the times of crisis like we're in now. that hasn't been the case with this president and other crises throughout his administration. now, the two men seem to be
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traded the barbs back and forth. former president obama is known for his subtlety. he tried to make that point without using donald trump's name. that hasn't been the case for the current occupant of the white house, who has frequently targeted and tweeting as recently as yesterday, about obamagate, which is a conspiracy theory that backs why, in the president's current view, the russia investigation, originated, which is something they are trying to elevate as they go into the election, alex. >> i know you have been all over the story of the firing of the watchdog. what can you tell us? >> reporter: a window into the motivation for why the president removed the state inspector general, steve lynn from his po. it was mike pompeo's idea to oust him. and the president agreed. that's why he did it.
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why is that significant? democrats tell us that he had opened an investigation into possible misconduct from secretary pompeo, in terms of a government employee that may have been doing personal errands for him and his wife. as that gets under way, its was mr. pompeo who wanted him to be replaced in this role. and it's worth noting that the person coming in to succeed him is an ally of vice president mike pence. democrats have launched their own probe into why this happened, saying it fits a pattern. let's go to the latest reopening in new york. the phased reopening. as andrew cuomo says, the new coronavirus cases are declining. there's 357,000 confirmed cases of the virus in new york. 29,000 deaths.
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let's go to cori coffin in times square. the numbers of cases are going down. but the governor is concerned about a potential uptick during this reopening? >> reporter: unfortunately, yes. he thinks it will be an inevitabili inevitability. with the partial reopening, as slow as the state will be moving, he says it's natural that the numbers will go up. that's why there's a two-week lag between phases to monitor the numbers to see how high they get. that's why hospitals have to have the bed capacity and why the contact tracing has to be in place. in case all that happens. the governor hasn't ruled out stopping a phase if the numbers get too high. he said all of this is up to the citizens of new york. >> if people are smart, yes, you'll see some increase in the numbers.
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but you won't see a spike. but you won't see a spike. you'll see spikes in countries that have opened. you've seen spikes in states that have opened. we have an intelligent, i think the most intelligent system, but it's reliant on what we do. it's reliant on human behavior. be smart and be diligent and don't underestimate this virus. >> reporter: all right. so, about half the state is set to open up now, with construction, manufacturing, agriculture, curbside pickup for retail, other low-risk businesses like that. of course, there are many parts of the state that don't feel that this process, the whole thing, is moving fast enough. as we know, manhattan and other parts are going to be on new york pause until may 28th. and yesterday, protesters took to the capital in hundreds to demand that the state open more uniformly and quicker, alex.
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>> okay. cori coffin from times square. join me, dr. cedric mcfadden, board-certified surgeon. and holly phillips, internist in private practice in new york. dr. mcfadden, i start with you, sir. as the states are gradually reopening and all of this warm weather is bringing people outside, there is research suggesting that the summer's heat and humidity and the sunshine could help inhibit, not halt, but inhibit, slow down the spread of the coronavirus. "the washington post" reporting that there's a new working paper and database put together by harvard, m.i.t. and other institutions, examinie ining a of conditions to determine the relative covid-19 risk due to weather. ultimately, doctor, they found the average temperatures above 77 degrees is associated with a decline in the virus transmission. your thoughts on that? does that make sense to you?
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>> it makes sense. you think about what's happening in ecuador and brazil where the temperatures are low. you're seeing viruses being diagnosed and seeing that being present. but it makes sense if we look at what's happening with other viral infections, influenza, sars, even the middle eastern respiratory syndrome, we see the decrease when the season warmed. it's not knowing what happens in the fall when temperatures decrease again. but that's a pattern we like to see. >> heat notwithstanding, dr. phillips, does that make a difference if people aren't social distancing or taking other precautionary medses? >> right. we're looking for good news in all of this. it seems to -- that heat and particularly humidity, may be good at helping us fight off the virus. it lowers what is called the roe score, making the virusless
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contagious. it is part of the equation when looking at the viral spread. it's not the most important part. the most important part is our behavior, whether we're in close contact with one another or whether we're doing the basics of keeping the virus at bay, through testing and contact tracing and quarantine for people that require it. >> a new piece in "the washington post" is titled "we can stop the pandemic by july 4th if the government took these step." frequent testing, tracing, positive tests until no new case are found. isolated patients would receive a federal stipen to discourage them from returning to work too soon. dr. phillips on this, is that idea realistic? >> i think that the idea can be realistic. and i think that in other
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countries, where we've seen, really effective viral control. germany, singapore, taiwan, south korea. these are strategies that are in place and have been shown to work. and this was the original strategy that public health advocates had spoken about from the very beginning of this virus, right? when we started to see community spread, at the beginning of march, the idea is to find anyone with the virus, test them, closely trace their contacts and isolate only the people that needed to be isolated. that wasn't done effectively. now, essentially, we're all quarantined. i do think that there is a basis to all of our -- to be able to understand that this strategy can work. whether or not we can get it up and running is the question. >> dr. mcfadden, july 4th, is that realistic?
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and does the country have the capacity to do the testing and tracing that is needed? again, july 4th. we're talking six, seven weeks. >> think about the folks that have to get the tests. my concern is are the tests going to be taken to the most vulnerable populations? will they have access to the testing centers or the care they need after the tests are performed? that's an important question that has to be answered in that ti timeframe, as well. not just the testing, the swabs the extraction media, the vials and the personnel to perform those tests. it's a lot of different fronts that have to be met. >> dr. mcfadden, staying with you, this talks about dividing the country into yesterdayred, d green zones. those zones would determine the amount of tests that each state should have to be doing, what preventative measures they
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should be taking. what are your thoughts on that? is it effective and realistic? >> it's a nice framework to actually start from. you know, right now, most of us, as they characterize, are in the yellow zone, where we have anywhere from 0.01% to 2%. that's places like d.c. and maryland. we're seeing the red zones, new york, louisiana, michigan, where the numbers are greater than 1%. that's concerning because it's going to take some time. we have to have investment of 5 million tests per day, to get us to the green zone we would like to be. and we're only doing 3,000 tests per day. we have a long ways to go to get to that point. >> perspective from you both. dr. cedrek mcfadden and holly phillips. investigators are on the scene after a building exploded in los angeles. 11 firefighters were injured in
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this. it started saturday when a group entered the building. they were trying to put out a fire at a hash oil manufacturer. a blast was heard. flames shot out of that building. firefighters ran from a wall of flames, their coats on fire. three of the firefighters in critical condition. all 11 are expected to survive. wow. we told you about the rather scathing assessment from former president obama on the trump administration's pandemic response. wait, there's more. in his second graduation address, he took a different approach to his criticism that appeared a direct reference to the current president himself. that's next. esident himself. that's next. you get way more the shipping. you get thousands of items you need to your door fast the way it works best for you. even the big stuff. you get a delivery experience you can always count on. you get your perfect find at a price to match on your schedule. you get free two day shipping on things that make your home feel like you!
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developing right now, unrest growing in michigan over the governor's stay-at-home order. armed militants go to the state capitol as the state has been under emergency order. but the governor is standing firm by her decision, saying it is saving hundreds of lives. joining me now, congresswoman
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debbie dingell. let's get into this. governor whitmer is calling the protesters largely political. and the protests, as well. do you agree with her? or is this about frustration or is it both? >> it's both. i talk to people every day. you know, from whatever hour in the morning to 11:00 at night. they're scared, they're worried. they want to get back to the job. there's people in lansing that are just there to spread fear and hate, to cause trouble. and they're being egged on by some of the leadership in this country. i mean, they are carrying guns. they have swastika signs and confederate flags. when you go to demonstrations like this, what you're trying to do is continue to spread the fear and hatred and the division we're seeing in our country. >> there were arguments heard friday in the lawsuit by the
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republican-led legislature. the governor is being accused of abusing her authority. is this politics? or did she act beyond her authority? >> she did not, with respect. and i want to thank the two republican leaders. we need to have more bipartisanship, less partisanship, for discouraging people carrying guns on thursday. if they intimidated people, they should be arrested. we need more working together like that. but i'm going to tell you, she's a friend of mine. you know that? but she talked to me after she got the first figures of how many people could die in michigan. and she felt responsibility for every one of those lives. and what we're now facing, obviously in michigan, we are the third-highest -- one of the third hardest-hit in the country. we had more than 50,000 cases and almost 5,000 deaths. she feels that responsibility
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for life. what is an individual's right? and what is the common good? and when i go to the airport on wednesday to go back to washington, the number of people that sat next to me weren't distan distancing, weren't wearing masks, they threatened my life. i get up and i move. but how do we balance that? how do we balance an individual person's rights with, okay, you're threatening my health. and that's what she is doing. and her job is to protect everybody in michigan. >> yeah. great that you applaud the efforts of those two michigan leaders in the legislature. but when you talk about administration leaders who are encouraging all of this, perhaps leading the way into this, who are you talking about? are you talking about president obama -- not president obama. president trump. >> we're all having that kind of morning. i don't think it helps when someone gets up and says, i don't think it's respectful to
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call anybody, "that woman" when they are a governor and earned that title of governor. let's not tell people liberate michigan. i'll tell you what i'm scared about, point-blank. i have spent the last nine weeks working with the uaw, the oems, the supplier community on closing and reopening. tomorrow is a big day, we start the reopening process. there's new property comes prot that require people to social distance, requiring masks. when the leader of our country doesn't wear a mask and doesn't encourage what the scientists and doctors are telling us, that's endangering everybody. the most important thing that every scientist and doctor says, and when i talk to the president of the uaw, which i do every day, is scared to death the people won't follow the protocols. people could get in the plant and get sick again. it's a fear of coming back, the spiking again. and the only way to keep it from
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spiking is listening to the doctors, keeping that physical distance, wearing the masks, washing your hands for 20 seconds. and if leaders don't lead, we have a problem. >> yeah. i mentioned former president obama. and i want to turn to him and the fact he criticized president trump and the administration during a virtual address to high school seniors across the country last night. let's listen to part of that. >> all of the adults that used to think were in charge and knew what they were doing, turns out they don't have all the answers. a lot of them aren't even asking the right questions. do what you think is right. doing what feels good, what's convenient, what's easy, that's how little kids think. unfortunately, a lot of so-called grown-ups, including those with fancy titles and important jobs, still think that why. that's why things are so screwed up. >> first of all, do you agree with what our former president said? and do you appreciate the way he is speaking out this way?
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how do you feel about that? >> you know, i think it's important to have leaders in president obama and president bush have spoken up and tried to bring the country together. not everybody is -- i hope the president will be careful. not everybody is screwed up and there's people that are trying to do the right thing. but i think he's encouraging people to have their own right mind. and let me just take it down to what i was just talking about. i hope he's -- those kids are listening and saying, hey, if i go out, i should wear a mask and keep my physical distance. don't think for yourself. not everybody is leading at the top. i think we need more of us to work together, to do what's right, period, to mitigate this virus. and then, we have to work together. it does not help when we're all at each other's throats. what do we do to keep the people safe and keep the jobs safe? are we going to reopen the economy? what will we do so people aren't
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worried about their job, whether they can pay the rent or the mortgage. how can we help people protect the small businesses? those, we have to do together. and there are people -- i know the president knows this, too. he's looking for leadership from where he used to sit. and we need that. we all have to work together. and right now, getting partisan isn't going to help. >> i appreciate our conversations. debbie dingell, thank you so much. a big change in place for uber riders, whether it makes you feel safer or not. and new rules, how to let people back on the beach without taking risks. taking risks out no no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card.
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that driver arrives. georgia's distributing its first round of the antiviral drug remdesivir to hospitals treating coronavirus patients. the initial estimate is about enough to treat 110 patients. it's available in eight hospitals. in illinois, hundreds gathered outside of the capitol in springfield to protest the stay-at-home order. the organizers gave speeches and protesters were waving flags. and look at the crowds on manhattan beach, yesterday. the first weekend that los angeles coastline is reopened. running, walking, surfing, swimming, all allowed, but you can't sit and lie out on the sand. you can't tell from this video but the beachgoers are supposed to wear masks and practice social distancing. but they are. spain is starting to ease lockdown restrictions to allow
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individual parts of that country to proceed at their own pace. let's go to willem marks from spain. spain was one of the hardest-hit countries in europe. but science, how is this being used in the official decisionmaking now. >> reporter: what they've done is allow individual regions go at their own pace when it comes to lockdown restrictions. in valencia, they've used the data from cell phones and complex and interesting surveys they sent out to all residents. they have a volunteer group advising the government. and the data they've gotten from the combinations of factors have helped them decide how best to take action during the pandemic. for instance, they found out that families made it difficult
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for people to quarantine themselves successfully. they commandeered hotels and called those capacity. they're looking at mental health resilience. how long are people willing to stay at lockdown. and finally, looking at the health status. trying to decide who has been infected. we talked to a behavioral scientist, and the a.i. adviser to the regional government there. and she said the most interesting findings was on two questions. are you infected? have you tested positive? and do you know anyone else, you've come into contact that has also tested positive? and they combine the responses, they came up with really interesting data. take a listen. >> what we find is that between
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70% to 80%, of the people report being positive, having tested positive with coronavirus, also report having had close contact with someone that was positive and they know who that person is. the most likely answer is, in the household. the second one would be a relative or a friend. then, a patient, if they work in health care or a client. and then, a co-worker. so, the likely source of infection, it seems for a large number of people, it is known. >> reporter: tens of thousands of people responding to this survey every week. and the answers change as the situation changes. four-fifths say they knew where they got the virus from. it was typically someone close to them. and the implications for how government operates in that part
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of the world and in other places is huge. if you catch the virus in a supermarket or in a bar. you're more likely to get it from a co-worker and a family member. that's something that governments want to know about. >> this is extraordinary, willem. what it shows is the efficacy of contact tracing, how important that is. to your point, it's less likely you're going to get it from somebody jogging by you, who might be carrying the disease, if you're out for a walk, than being an extended period of time with people in your family, and co-workers. brilliant on behalf of spain. i hope we're taking lessons. thank you very much. let's get to the shooting death of briana taylor and new claims by the family attorney. officers say they were executing a no-knock warrant when shots were fired at them, causing them to return fire. the family says authorities keep
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changing their story. >> police are claiming when they busted into the home, they announced they were police. is that what the family understands? >> that is not what the family understands, joy. they heard from three neighbors who were in their apartment that night, there was no announcement. they said after the execution of breonna, it was not announced. and they announced they had a no-knock warrant. they didn't have to announce. which is it? the story keeps evolving. >> three officers involved in that shooting have been placed on leave. louisville launched an internal investigation. mark claxton is joining me now. he is also the director of the black law enforcement alliance. as we consider all this, i want to share that we should mention that lmpd said they needed the
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no-knock warrant because they believe suspects could be hiding drugs in taylor's home. what is your take on the police actions and the allegations by the attorney, who is claiming that police falsified information to get that no-knock warrant? >> there's a lot of disturbing conversation coming out. when you have a lack of disclosure at this point or as much information that could come out that doesn't hinder the investigation, you can offset some of the problems we're facing right now. we have the storyline, it appears to be evolving and changing, when there are things that should be documented that aren't documented, with the miscommunication. the police are indicate in their application to the court, whether they're going to announce or a no-knock warrant. and there's criteria that's
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required for either one. >> explain a no-knock warrant to me. how is that executed? how common is it? i'm curious about the proper protocols. and the fact that three neighbors, according to the attorney, did not hear anything prior to shots being fired, does that make sense with a no-knock warrant to you? >> that would make sense that they didn't hear anything. let's deal with the fact that over the past 20, 30 years, the use of no-knock warrants has increased dramatically. not only the applications for them, but the use of s.w.a.t. and tactical teams along with them. you have an increase of no-knock warrants as opposed to a knock and announce warrant. that's when police will knock on the door, and bang on the door, and announce, police, we have a search warrant, prior to entering. the idea behind -- >> can i just ask -- i'm
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envisioning this. a residence, a no-knock warrant, they enter the property without any announcement, right? somebody could be asleep or making dinner, showering, whatever. >> that's correct. >> and bam, in comes the police. >> that's absolutely correct. your shock or your surprise, is indicative of the level of danger or the possibility or probability that things will go wrong when you conduct a no-knock warrant. your understanding of it is exactly right. >> how can somebody in their home -- how do they know it's the police? >> that's another excellent point. that's the logistical problems you have. there's been cases in the past, not only this case. but there's been numerous cases where individuals are in their home and they -- in their minds, intruders are invading in their
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homes. that's why police, law enforcement officials, have to be extremely careful and tactically sound when executing these warrants. the idea behind the no-knock -- usage of the no-knock warrant, is so you don't give the quote/unquote bad guys, the doesn't to destroy or dismiss evidence. >> this was allegedly, drugs, right? they're concerned about drugs. you can throw them out the window, flush them down the toilet, do whatever. that's what they were concerned about, if they knocked on the door and said, open up, police? >> right. i've done hundreds of no-knock warrants. i spent time in the narcotics division. we did many no-knock warrants. and the idea is, if we knock and announce, for example, what's going to happen is there will be flushing of drugs or burning, perhaps, of evidence, et cetera. and you give people an opportunity to reposition some of the evidence that you have.
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but let's not forget here -- let's not really go away from the key component of what's wrong with this. and that is the reliability of the evidence or the informant who gave the evidence in that warrant. the court will issue this warrant -- the court will approve the application for a warrant if they believe it is credible. and something doesn't smell right in this particular case. >> marq claxton. thank you so much. barack obama swib swipes at the trump administration. is this just the beginning? theg epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. whatever your type, epclusa could be your kind of cure. i just found out about mine. i knew for years. epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. i had no symptoms of hepatitis c mine caused liver damage.
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knew thnew this morning, ba obama criticizing the current administration in two speeches. this is what he said. >> more than anything, this pandemic has torn back the curtain on the idea that so many in charge know what they're doing. a lot of them aren't even pretending to be in charge. if the world is going to get better, it's up to you. second, do what you think is right. doing what feels good, what is convenient, what's easy, that's how little kids thing. unfortunately, a lot of so-called grown-ups, including those with fancy titles and important jobs, still think that way. that's why things are so screwed up. >> joining me now is rochelle
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richie. good morning to you. we listen to this. and our former president did not say the current president, president trump, by name, are you surprised that president obama actually criticized the administration so publicly? >> no. actually, i'm not surprised. anyone would look at this and say, if you have a former president coming and speaking to smls of people,, especially the young people. you have to remember, in 2018, we saw a 16% increase in the number of young people that came out and voted during the 2018 midterm election. and so, when you look at those numbers and you know they are extremely engaged, it makes sense that president obama would come out and solicit those votes. staying on point, you have to understand that trump has attacked obama countless numbers
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of times. it seems fair that he comes back and he fights back. >> do you think we will see more of this from president obama? or put in perspective of how much is in support of joe biden, the presumptive democratic candidate, the apparent democratic candidate? or is this the message he wants to send about the trump administration? politics or communicating? >> i think it's both. i think he's communicating. but i think politics is certainly involved. joe biden, he has, you know, a strong campaign right now. but he does need a little bit of help. we've seen a lot of people come out and say, who is going to be his v.p. pick? that's going to play a huge role in this. i think we'll see more of obama coming out and supporting biden. and i think with the coronavirus pandemic and the fact we have millions of people unemployed right now, that obama and biden are the perfect two people to talk about how to get the economy back right now.
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>> yeah. during the same speech, president obama commented on the shooting death. he said it's one thing that highlights the injustice. listen to this. >> when a man goes for a jog and some folks think they can stop and question him and shoot him if he doesn't submit to their questioning. justice like this is not new. >> what are your thoughts? >> he's right. we've seen this a number of times. during that time, that was not a case in which freddie gray was shot. we see this all the time, with the new video that's come out, that arbury was getting a drink of water from the house. and white people, white adults, children, have stopped by the home, out of curiosity. if you were not home and someone
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burglarized the home, wouldn't you want that person to receive the death penalty? and we know that he did not commit a crime. but these two men decided to run down -- and i think the people that headed down to georgia are correct in asking for the resignation of barnville because he said the shooting was justified. the person on trial here is arbery and not the mcmichaels. >> rochelle, thanks for weighing in. president trump's obamagate claims. a familiar tactic that may not sit well with mitch mcconnell. l, from inspiration to installation. like way more vanities perfect for you. nice. way more unique fixtures and tiles. pairing. ♪ nice. way more top brands in sinks and faucets. way more ways to rule your renovation.
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sad news to report. sports casting pioneer phyllis george has died. her family says george passed away in a kentucky -- rather, in kentucky after a battle with a blood disorder. george was one of the first women to cover the nfl and she later became an anchor at cbs.
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she was also the former first lady of kentucky and as you're seeing right here, also a former miss america. phyllis george, just 70 years old. back now to the coronavirus pandemic, as the trump administration faces growing scrutiny of its handling of the crisis, president trump spent the first half of his saturday lashing out of his predecessor, the media, also his 2020 opponent in an hour's long tweet storm. and publicly pressuring republicans, including senate majority, leader mitch mcconnell to pursue unsubstantiated claims against the obama administration. with me now, abigail tracy, staff writer at "vanity fair." good to see you, my friend. and a good sunday morning to you. let's get to this and your interpretation of what the president is doing at this time, when this nation is going through a public health crisis. >> yeah, absolutely. throughout this entire pandemic, we've had a president who has refused to accept the fact that the buck stops with him. and throughout it, we've seen him, you know, try to cast blame
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on other people, whether it's governors, whether it's the previous administration, to kind of not accept responsibility for the mounting death toll that we're seeing and what many say is a delayed respond to the covid-19 crisis. so what we're seeing right now, you know, the shift toward, you know, the media and sort of trying to paint the media as, you know, the enemy of the people, which is some of the language that the president himself has used, or even again going back to the past administration, to kind of, you know, use this strategy around joe biden and president barack obama to kind of cast the blame there in their direction. and i think that will be, you know, his 2020 strategy moving forward. >> i know, but he's been in charge for about three and a half years. the obama administration seems like light years ago, right? something the president also did was share a video of protesters berating a reporter in long island. here's part of that clip. >> you stopped airing the trump briefings and you keep airing cuomo briefings. go home, you fake news. >> you are the enemy of the
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people. >> you are fake news. we all know it. >> hmm. trump called them great people. so is this a case where the president is trying to appeal to this particular segment of his supporters? >> absolutely. and i think when we're looking at that clip, a lot of it, you know, it's familiar, what you see at his rallies and everything, and i do think right now, amid this crisis, obviously, tensions are higher and we'll continue to see this vitriol. i think particularly directed toward the media given the president's response to it and how he continues to amplify some of these voices. but i really do think this is just the start of what the president will be doing as he moves forward and again tries to abdicate his responsibility role throughout this pandemic. >> here's something he's trying to do, which is push the obamagate narrative. what is all of that about? because there's been a lot of fact checking back and forth and issues and, you know, there's not a lot of actual facts for this obamagate that he has spoken about. he just says, oh, you know.
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>> right. i think that's, you know, a really big problem here, is this lack of context that we're seeing. >> okay. well, i think you've gotten the word to wrap, as have i, thank you so much, good to see you. thanks, everyone, for watching. i'm alex witt, we are out of time. next on "velshi," democrats weigh their options for a summer convention. ali talks to democratic committee chair, tom perez. i ta committee chair, tom perez "show me what you're made of." so we showed it our people, sourcing and distributing more fresh food than anyone... we showed it our drivers helping grocers restock their shelves. we showed it how we're donating millions of meals to those in need. we showed it how we helped thousands of restaurants convert to takeout and pop up markets.
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a fourth inspector general fired by trump. this time, for investigating the secretary of state. now congress is investigating whether this was an act of retaliation. a new $3 trillion economic relief bill passes the house, including another relief check for all taxpayers. but chances are you won't see one. and more than 14,000 workers in one single industry may have coronavirus. trump says they're essential, but he may have just made america's most dangerous job even more dangerous. velshi starts now. good morning. it is sunday, may 17th, i'm ali velshi. we begin with former president barack obama barack obama, for the second time in a little more than a week, calling out the administration officials for a lack of leadership during the coronavirus outbreak. >> more than