good evening and welcome to politics nation. a busy show tonight. nba legend and business leader, mike johnson, joins me later with a big announcement on his plan to help minority businesses during this crisis. and a netflix docu series that consumed our attention include ing a shooting. his mother will be here to tell us why her son's story still resonates in today's fight against police brutality. but we start with tonight's lead. first wave new world.

as we pass 80,000 deaths from covid-19, several states are going full steam ahead with their plans to reopen and even epicenters like new york state with phase iing in their initia returns to normal ahead of summer. of course we've had two months to get a handle on the public health and even economic implications of this pandemic but as we've seen in our state houses and our streets, it's the social ramifications of this crisis that reveal themselves daily. with armed protestors almost uniformly white shutting down public businesses without fear and public hearings and legislative places and often without masks. while black and brown citizens have been on the receiving end of enhanced police response to

this crisis. this week, mayor depla blasio announced residents would no longer be required to wear masks in public unless quote a serious danger was represented, this after his department has come under fire over rational bias and social distancing environment. photos and videos visualizing the department's own data, who most of that enforcement has gone to. joining me now is the mayor of new york city, bill de blasio. felet me ask you first, what is your reaction to 48 states today including new york having some phase of going back to allowing, not the distancing, but awe loying stay in place shelter in place to be relaxed some.

what is your reaction? >> some places are doing carefully and some are not and it's a real concern for all of us. because we're one country, all connected. i want to note from your lead in, one respectful correction. face coverings are required in new york city. the difference is we made clear that the nypd was not going to be a people summons if they weren't wearing a face covering, but they are required to use them to protect each other and try and fight back this disease. >> i thank you for that correction. i assure you, i'm still wearing my face coverings. >> very good. i believe in you. so the but here's the point to your question. we know there are states that reopened without having indicators that they would create a lot of danger for their people. i'm hoping and praying that doesn't lead to a horrible result. we're seeing some states where the number of cases are upticking intensely so i would

say some states have been wreckless, but every state, every city, has to be ready to god forbid we see a resurvgence you have to put the restrictions back. here in new york city, we're going very careful, slow. we're not going to have a misstep. when we think it's time to open up, which is no earlier in june in any way, we're going to do that carefully and slowly and if we don't like what we see, we can quickly reverse and put restrictions back. >> what do you need to see to start moving opening the city up? will schools open up in september for example? >> rev, i want to see our schools at full strength in september. our kids have missed a lot of what they normally would have gotten in education. you and i have talk ed about ths amazing effort by new york

city's educators to compensate with that with online learning and a tuning effort to overcome the digital divide. we now have almost 300,000 ipads who have been given out to kids in new york city public schools, who can't afford, didn't have internet services or the devices they needed, they now have them for free. that's a good thing in the midst of this horrible situation. our goal is to have the real thing in the classroom or at least most of the school week being in the classroom. we have a plan a, which is a full reopening, but we'll have a plan b, c, d, you name it, in case we're not there yet healthwise but in terms of your other question, look, next month will be the first chance to consider any relaxation. we have three key health care indicators we follow every day. publicly, openly, trans parepar. only when all of those are satisfied could you even talk b about relaxing restrictions and

then you would do it carefully for a period of time. small number of restrictions would be relaxed. see how it goes. if it works, open up more. but no false moves because the danger of a real boomer aung could set back the recovery by months. so it's much better to be steady and smart about this. >> all right. talking about the digital divide in which you did provide a lot of those laptops and ipads because of the divide, there's always been a divide in terms of how we deal with policing. since the shutdown began, 81% of nearly 400 social distancing citations went to black and latino new yorkers and as b yyo k i've been raising this issue with your police commissioner and very vocal about how we are disturbed about it. one, how do you deal with that data and what have you done by announcing this week it deals

with what has caused an outrange rage among many? >> right and the commissioner doesn't accept that nor do i. important to point out that in the course of this crisis, we're talking about the nypd giving fewer than ten summons a day in the entire city of 8.6 million people. for social distancing, so it's been a very small amount of enforcement, but there's still that disparity. >> but we have people being videoed. a mother with a daughter being thrown to the ground. another young man videos being beaten. small number, not this kind of aggressive policing and seemingly only in certain communities is just alarming and outrageous. >> it is and we don't accept it. and look, sometimes, the 36,000 officers you find some who are just doing the wrong thing and don't belong in that profession and there's a way we deal with

that. we're not going to lou anything to us back from all the changes we have made here, rev. you remember what the city used to be b like in terms of policing. in the last six years, we got rid of broken uninstitutional policy of stop and frisk. we trained the entire police force in deescalation. it's made a huge impact. got rid of marijuana arrests. 180,000 fewer arrests in 2019 than the last year. michael bloomberg, 2013. fewer arrests on top of fewer stops and thety got safer. so the big changes are working but what we saw in these last days is not accept bable and we're not going backwards. we've said police aren't going to be giing summons over face coverings. over a small number of people who are together. they're going after the large gatherings that are the biggest

ka danger to public health and we can't afford large gatherings at this point in our history. we're going to keep the police activity focused only where the need is greatest and wee going to continue the police work and bring in community leaders, clergy, community groups, lots of community based allies to do the sort of forward work of engaging the community. educating people. giving out the free face coverings. th that will help us forward. >> we'll be watching. i'll be wearing my face covering, but it doesn't cover my eyes. >> very good. >> thank you, mayor. joining me now, brittney packman. cunningham msnbc contribute e and cofund er founder of campain zero and brett stevens from the "new york times." brett, let me start with you. yesterday, president obama gave two viral commencement

addresses. listen to president obama on the current situation. >> more than anything, this pandemic has fully torn back the curtain that so many of the folks in charge no what they're doing. a lot of them aren't even pretending to be b in charge. all those adults that used to think we're in charge and knew what they were doing, turns out they don't have all the answers. a lot of them aren't even asking the right questions. >> and here is the trump's response today. >> look, he was an incomp tant president. thank you. >> help me out here. donald trump is saying that president obama was incompetent when this week, senator mitch mcconnell had to admit he was wrong. one of only things he's only admitted to this. he's admit ted that president

trump's administration left a pandemic briefing with him on what to do and what to expect. he'll calling him incompetent. your reaction. >> ooici'm opposed to president criticizing their successors. but i think obama was speaking in a very restrained way in terms of what he offered about president trump and the way in which president trump has behaved toward his predecessor is one of the more disgraceful performances in american presidential history. so under different circumstances, i would not have, i would not have smiled at what president obama said. i think very delicately and intelligently, but in this case, it's richly deserved. >> brittney, by president obama

giving both these yesterday and i would note president trump was not asked to do either, you've been an organizer of young people that's how i met you and known you. how important is his message to them as they graduate at a time that we don't know what is going to happen in terms of their next level, if they're high school students, what colleges will be open. many of them are in digital divides. they're in areas that don't have broad band. and education is not the same option for black and brown young people in many years that it is for others and when we are dealing with the question of ahmed and the case of miss tayl taylor, all of this atmosphere and president obama, who did refer to the case in one of his commencement addresses. the atmosphere and the environment in which these young people heard these messages

yesterday. >> i couldn't agree more though he's more magnanimous. i know there's nothing that brings out someone's insecurities more than being far more excellent than what they are and seen trump continue to play into those over and over again, but it is true that president obama is especially in the time that i have worked with and known him, is always incredibly measured. chooses his words very, very carefully and if he's going to say this not once but twice, then you know he's pretty fed up and we've gone pretty far afield from how we should be experiencing this pandemic as american people. what he's trying to tell us is look, we deserve far better than what we are getting and what he's trying to remind young people in particular is that their opportunity, they're not

just looking to adults to get it done, but to themselves and their peers to take care of ourselves. i was just reading an article about a young woman who created an app so this young people who have parents that are incarcerated can communicate freely with them because we know this system instead of allowing people to allow folks who are incarcerated to communicate really with their family, they're inted turning a profit and make iing that more difficu. so she said instead of waiting on someone to do it for me, instead of waiting on what obama would have called the adults in charge to do it for me, i'll do it myself and i think president obama reminding young people yesterday as he has done so many times before, it's going to be on us to take up that office of citizen and do what needs to be done. >> brett, you have written over the weekend about the concerns about whether we're choosing the economy over people's lives and health. do you think a, that they are opening up many of these states

too quickly and that the president is setting a tone that has put the economy far too far ahead of o ahead of the health of americans and how do you react to him saying we may have a vaccine by the end of the year. >> the coronavirus pandemic and our e response to it, now it happens that when 30 million people lose their jobs, 30 million people lose their jobs in a single week, we have to think about not just as an economic catastrophe, but as a public health threat as well and every thoughtful governor, republican and democrat, has to weigh contending risks. it's true that when people are thrown out of their jobs, other

sources, they're reluctant to use hospitals. so i'm not sure, i think we need to open up the economy. we can't scene this muustain th longer but we're going to have to experiment and figure it out state by tate. i think it's a blessing that this isn't really a federal response so much as it's been a state response where confident local executives who know what they're doing have been able to take the lead and be responsible to the needs of their particular state. zbr i'm out of time, but brittney, i have to go back to you on the case in louisville. of miss taylor. i had a mother, an attorney on last night. you were one of the first ones on this. before anyone other than ben crump. as you look at this case and i'm getting ready to talk to the mother, we still face a problem

of policing in this country even during the pandemic. >> that's absolutely right and the police are telling no fewer people during this pandemic than they were killing people before this pandemic. at some point, enough is enough. we can't even get people the stay home for long enough to stop killing us whether it's a jinlg lan vigilante or police officer. we need justice for kenneth walker, ahmaud arbery and every american suffering from the coronavirus and a president who continues to put our lives on the line callously and carelessly. >> all right. thank you both. brett and brittney. i think brittney had a sunday go to church outfit on today. highly respect to me. i'm not sure. coming up.

trial by media. a new netflix true crime docu series revisiting six court cases include iing the 1999 pol shooting of an unarmed man which inspired activism against police brutality. after the break, my conversation with his mother and the executive producer of trial by media and in just a few minutes, nba legend magic johnson makes an appearance on politics nax. keep it here, but first, richard lui with today's top news stories. >> thanks. at this hour, there are roughly one and a half million reported cases of coronavirus. over 90,000 fatalities as of this hour. nearly every state in the country has partially reopened as of today. some states are further easing

restrictions this week. starting tomorrow, minnesota is set to lift lockdowns there. miami-dade and broward counties in south florida will begin reopening and gyms in west virginia west virginia will be open for business. also tomorrow, uber will require drivers and passengers to wear masks or face coverings. riders will have to take a selfie to prove they are covered up before the driver arrives. the u.s. space force successfully completed its first launch in cape canaveral today. the national hurricane center is now tracking what could become the first tropical storm of the season. stropg winds and heavy rain are expected for parts of north carolina on monday. i'm richard lui. politics nation continues right t after the break. no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card.

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went to east harlem to see the body of their son and despite the crushing emotions

they we want on to see the sight where he was slain. >> first night i watched national network, that was the first night i spoke out in public in my life. >> the mother of our brother. >> i just speak from my heart. >> thank you very much, brothers and sisters. you have given me to speak because it's not easy for me to stand and speak today. >> i know i have to speak for him because there's no way i'm going to let this happen and just keep quiet. >> because of him, we're going to fight together. to save all our children. >> that was more than 20 years ago and despite the courage of diallo, dozens of other black mothers have been forced to prematurely mourn their sons and daughters in the years since.

you know their names. oscar grant. michael brown. john. sandra bland. and just in the last few weeks, shawn reed and brianna taylor. these names represent just a fraction of the black death at the hands of law enforcement in the country since that police killing in 1999. joining me now is am due his brother, the president of the diallo foundation and stooech brill, the executive producer of trial by media. that's the clip you just saw. steven is is founder. let me go to you first. if people watch this especially society 41 shots that steven did and it was very well done, the, they will see that you came from g gideon west africa because your son was killed, not knowing much

more than that, and you took a stand to stand with the community and fight and what you're not given a lot of credit for is you wouldn't go back. you've stayed here and fought with other mothers. formed a foundation to help train young people to be what you felt amadou would be. and as you sit here tonight and knowing the mother of taylor, what you went through, what made you stay and why is it important now 20 almost 21 years later that steven tells his story in the clipt we're in right now? >> thank you for having me. first of all, i would like to thank the worldwide support today launching of this documentary. i have receive d tremendous let

ers from mothers around the world. he came across the ocean at the edge of 22. wanting to work hard and go to college and he has never given the chance. he never lived to achieve his dream. doing this documentary was not an e is cy thing for me. it was very emotional but i think it's important to do that. because it's part of the american justice system. this saga that went on. you said about me wanting to stay in this country was a matter of sacrifice and promise to my son. that i would stand up and speak for him because he's no longer there to speak for himself. it is difficult to relive the tragedy. and for me, but i think it's important.

because even after 20 years, we're still dealing with some some issues. you see young man and young woman who has been killed and other mothers i've befriend wd in a circle that no one want to be part of. this is our reality. but i agonized i knew my life would never be the same. my mission is to was not only to fight for him, but to give him back his story. because when he was killed, his story was taken away from him and he was portrayed by the media in a very negative light so for me, i had to pick up my son dust him off and give him back his story. i decide d to be in the united states because my mission was

not just to come and get money and go back. my son was more than that. my child. you cannot put a value on him and i'm sure all the mothers if you ask them will is say the same thing. we'll take about it after. yes, i would like to share what i have been doing since then. my healing process. and my mission. >> i want to get to that. i want to ask steve though as you put these six episodes together, you deal with several cases, the and how the media dealt with these cases. both proand con. the series is very well done. what motivated you to look at a this from the way the media handled the cases of justice and not all police cases. t there are some political corruption cases. there's a subway gunman cases. the series is multifaceted.

>> what we saw u was the highly publicized cases tend to affect the trial. and that sounds like a bad thing but it's not because the kind of information that the public gets that seeps into the jury because the jury is part of the public, but u second, it's sort of acts as a proxy for what the swrur might be thinking and perceiving. what really struck us about this case is that the prosecutors failed to do what mrs. diallo has just said. failed to the tell the story of her son and i think that may account for the verdict. >> in '99 when he was killed, there was no social media and many of the marches and rallies, many of which have led, we were the twitter of that day.

and you are one that would say do what you must do to keep it peaceful. saw those four policemen acquitted from your sop's death. >> yes, i have to thank you, reverend sharpton r for rally ing the people around the case. because people were angry and reckless. even today, i want to tell the public that the anger is still there because i've been receiving messages. all i want to tell them is that you can transition from being angry from being reactive to proactive. this is what i have done and this is a blessing for me. is to create the foundation and work through the foundation to empower young people so that

they can achieve their educational dream. the dream that he was denied. because he was killed. a and i always join with community members in new york city. we belong to a grass roots group that we love for having implemented positive technique and laws and influencing politicians so that they would understand about budgets being cut. will impact like you always talk b about, reverend sharpton, in the community, is not necessarily to really be aggressive in the neighborhood. you can do programs that can help the young people empower them so they can be in a positive light instead of suspecting of the crime f. you give them programs, educational program, they will have the tool tham empower them and bet e

their community. at the foundation, we're just just that. i hope that people who are listening will understand that you can do that, your advocacy is is important but also you have to be proactive like they're doing. during covid and people have been hurting. the foundation is supporting immigrant students in the country, it's difficult have time they don't know what to do. the foundation hope that you can join us or join other organization but just don't stop and doing nothing. every little bit help. >> the foundation is doing a fantastic job. tell us about the series.

it is on now netflix and what you hope people will walk away from the series, especially 41 shots seen. what was the objective? >> well the idea that jeffrey had and that i had was that these trials would be em lemmatic of something going on at the time in our recent history and the way to prexz what was going on is through the real life drama of a trial. this is the only reality tv. the real life drama of trial and many cases, people don't even remember what the verdict was or weren't around when the case came up. i think it's a series of issues that are still with us today and the drama of what is the courtroom and the only thing i would warn people about is that

it really helps to know the facts, either you assume the police misbehaved so we get in the virtue of the trial is that the jurors get to see all the facts or at least all the facts they present. that doesn't mean it works all the time and in this case, it arguably failed. >> all right. well i want to thank you, madame diallo. truly one i respect and become a real, real symbol in our movement around the world and thank you, steven brill. coming up, irving magic johnson and mve capital ceo, rafael martinez discus their plan to support black and latino owned businesses through the pandemic. we'll be right back.

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loosening restrictions on business operations, thousands of small businesses are still in serious trouble. particularly minority owned operations and those who need he help, that most have had trouble, trouble really assessing paycheck protection loans from the federal relief bill because they are more likely to be turned away from mainstream lenders according to the center of responsible lending. now some privately owned lenders are stepping into the gap and into the t breach big time. joining me now is earvin "magic" johnson. one of the greatest pro basketball players of all time and majority owner of life insurance company and rafael martinez, majority owner of mbe capital partners, the largest

certified minority opened asset baseded lender in the united states. first to you, magic. when we began wrestling with the fact that many of the small businesses, black owned, brown owned, could not get what was set aside for small businesses. they were not getting the access they want there. it was really a alarming to us because they needed the most. they employed people in our communities, the majority of people in our black and brown communities work in these stores, in these operations and many of them can't survive. and when your team started talking about rafael's team with wallace start coming together, we never dreams we would get to

announce what you're announcing tonight but i guess that's why they call you magic, so i'll let you tell where you coming forward and what you u put on the table to help make some of the ease for some of these businesses during this painful time. >> we want to first thank you for bringing ralph el and together and our companies together to really do good in our community because these are incredible small businesses that have been the pillar of our community that employ a lot of black and brown people in our community so what we did was we came together in a partnership and we wanted to make sure that minority owned businesses got small business loans through the ppp loan program.

and so rafael, i will write a $100 million check and they'll deploy that money and make sure they bet the small businesses in our community that is really powerful, making sure these businesses come together to make sure they can still survive and thrive during this virus and time. >> now one of the things and i'm going to rafael, but one of the things that i think it also does, usually, they complain in some quarters that we always asking government for help but here, you have a major black and brown business that is saying we'll do it. you put up $100 million and

merged forming this alliance with rafael and we help put these meetings together and putting money on the line this is coming with you putting it up. of course there's loans but that money's going on out then until those loans are repaid ar sba covers them. $100 million is not a little bit of money. i know that told you u b probably going to do it and we got to help our people, but that's between you and i. cookie is his wife for the viewers, but i think that's a major social statement as well. magic then rafael. >> thank you, reverend, thank you, magic. one of the important things was not talking about it and doing

something about it. when our respective teams talked to each other, we put this deal together in five days, so eric, ken and the rest of the team at equtwus kind of did what they had to do with our team to make this thing work. when you have willing participants to do this right thing, it makes life easier and it was just b about billable hours at that point to get the ts crossed and is dotted but we put this together in about a week thanks to the respective teams and really we wanted to deliver to the market what was being held up. for one reason or another, we wanted to make sure we touched our community. me coming from washington heights in new york city, these are my sisters, my brother, my cousins, uncles and aunt that is need this money so we had to take anchor. when we met with magic and his team, there was no question. they said let's coit and it was done. >> why is is this so important

to you? you and i have worked on projects maybe 15 years or many and it strikes me how you take this stuff personal. why is this important? this is the side of magic johnson that i don't think a lot of fance around the world know. >> as you know, i built my business in the city. i was once one of those small business owners so i know how important it is to keep those employees working. keep those black and brown people working in those small businesses in our community. and we can't afford to let these people lose their businesses who have been working so hard to build their business and we want to help them grow their business and have scale because that's what's important. because if they get scale, then they can hire more people. and the more people working, better for our community. because we know how high

unemployment is is in our community. and this virus really affected our community in two different ways. healthwise as well as financial wise. >> how rafael do people that are small business people watching, how do they assess to apply for some of the loan money available because you and magic? >> so, they can duoto nbec.com and we put a link on your website to maekyuke sure peoplee ak says. this money isn't going to wait for anybody. our goal request magic and the teams is really to reach 100,000 businesses. so we need action yesterday, not tomorrow or next week. nobody is going to wait for us.

>> mbe.com l or national action network.com. imagine i while i have you, the r sports teams are out and some are beginning to talk about coming back. i must ask you, what do you think about the fact that we are now seeing no sports and that there are some contemplating how they can deal with that. do they do with no audience? wait? are the players at risk? at the same time r the people that work in these facilities out of work? what should with the steps they take to return if at all to a the active sports leagues that you were such a giant in? >> the key is safety, safety and more safety. so if they come back to the arenas, we've got to keep those employees safe.

we have to keep the athletes safe. which is really, really important and right now, we still don't have enough testing for everybody in america so somehow, we got to get enough test kits for those people who are going to work in the arenas and also the athletes who are going to be out there whether that's in the arena or on a field. an i think that's the number one thing. how do we keep them safe? not before they play, but also during the games then actually after the games as well. so i think you see the nba is talking about returning. commissioner silver, his whole thing is safety for the players, but i would tell l you this. all of us here in this great country we live in, would love to see sports again. whether that's with no fans or b probably going to be no fans right now, so i won't duogo to s in the arenas because we need some to escape.

sports, we've always used sports to escape our every day walk in life and sports is good for it. especially right now during these tough times because we don't actually know what's going to happen because again, we don't have enough is going to happen. because, again, we don't have enough testing. i don't think the federal government has done a good job of supplying the test kits and getting them out to all communities, and especially the black and brown community. >> all right. and that is for sure. magic and rafael. let me say this. i watched a couple of the "the last dance" series and saw you and michael jordan on the dream team. but for small black and brown and women businesses, the dream team is on "politics nation" tonight for them. you and rafael. we need that kind of help and that kind of commitment. magic johnson, and rafael martinez thank you both for being with us. just a note, women's sports is

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good evening. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we open tonight with a grim milestone as we come on the air. the united states has now passed 90,000 deaths in the coronavirus pandemic. and while we are crossing that threshold, the president was calling into a golf broadcast here on nbc to go beyond promising just a vaccine to come. >> ultimately, i believe we will end up with a career and or a vaccine, probably both. and i think that's not going to be in the very distant future. but even before that, i think we will be back to normal. >> meanwhile, the white house out in force today. early today defending the president's focus on reopening the economy whi