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i'm in my luggage. it's a crazy time right now. we're in a crazy time right now, but we're all going to stay in our luggage. everything stay in their bag, their luggage. >> amen. i appreciate that, and we appreciate all the work you're doing. i hope you come back. we're out of time. that's "the beat." keep it right here. good evening. i'm joy reid. we are following breaking news out of georgia tonight, where a third man has been arrested for the murder of ahmad arbery. his family says he was jogging when he was killed. today police arrested william bryan, a neighbor who recorded the fatal encounter. in a little while i'll by joined
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by the arbery family's lawyer. but first donald trump took his push to reopen the pun to misch goo today. he toured a factory that was e repurpose. here's how he tried to justify his actions today. >> well, i did wear -- i had one on before. i wore one in this back area, but i didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it. not necessary here. everybody's been tested. in fact, i was tested this morning, so it's not necessary. i was given a choice. i had one on in an area where they preferred it. they said not necessary here. >> okay. so it's a secret mask. he toured the plan after holding
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a roundtable with local african-american leaders works he similarly did not wear a mask, secret or ice. michigan has been hit especially hard by the pandemic with more than 53,000 cases and more than 5,000 deaths. today the state announced a report 22.7% unemployment rate in april. we also got another indication of the national economic toll with 2.4 million jobs claims last week. meanwhile, columbia university released a study on how many lives could have been saved if the u.s. -- in the u.s. if social distancing had started sooner. according to researchers, if those policies had been enacted just one week earlier in march, 36,000 lives could have been saved. if they had been acted two weeks
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earlier? 50,000 fewer people would have died. donald trump was asked if he believed that study. >> i was so early. i was earlier than anybody thought. i put a ban on people coming in from china. everybody fought me on that. they didn't want it. i was way early. columbia is an institution that is very liberal. i think it's just a political hit job, if you want to know the truth. for more now, i'm joined by the white house correspondent for the pbs newshour, and andy slavit from the centers for medicare and medicate services. it's hard to know where to begin. donald trump doesn't listen to science or the researchers. let's see if he listens to dr. fauci. this is about whether or not the -- the implementation of trying to protect americans has
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actually worked at all. here's dr. fauci. >> the scientific evidence clearly indicates that physical separation has worked but not completely. if you look at the curves in our country, it isn't like everything is going dramatically down. new york got hit terribly, and they're starting to come back. now is not the time to tempt fate. you don't want to stay locked down forever. there is a golden mean there. >> it's hard for me to imagine that behind the scenes, when they're just talking to each other, that people in the white house believe this has been anything other than a disaster. is there any indication that they understand the cost of their in? >> well, we know the president feels it personally, and takes it as a personal attack.
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if anyone says anything about the idea that the united states could have done a better job with the coronavirus, people close to the president really aren't the ones he's going to hear from who tell him, hey, mr. president, maybe you shouldn't have said there would by a miracle that would wipe away the vire. there are people who are very sober about what could have been done differently. dr. fauci has said if we acted sooner, yes, there would be more people whose lives would have been said. there is this idea that there wasn't enough testing at the beginning of this, and there still needs tore more testing as we look at reopening. there are places that scientists say can reopen safely, but for the vast majority majority of america there are still all these jurisdictions we need to figure out who even had the virus and we need to do contact tracing before we feel comfortable. but the president sees this as part of a ballots with the media. he said i didn't want to give
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the media the satisfaction of seeing me with the mask, instead of saying i think it's best for me to wear a mask, because i think that's what people want me to do. the president is then looking at this as a political -- like he's doing a lot of things going on with the virus. >> andy, what donald trump has done is he spent a lot of time bickering with and undermining the cdc, which you would think he would want in charge. nbc is reporting that the white house is now going to issue guidelines on church reopenings after a dispute with the cdc caused a delay. the recommendations diagnose overly bureaucratic, so we are doing or best to rein in the cdc and empower states to make their own decisions. that doesn't seem wise. his base is largely composed of white evangelicals, who i'm sure are eager to do whatever he recommends, including going back into churches. this seems unwise. your thoughts.
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first of all, i think the cdc is put in the exact same box that epa and climate scientists are being put into, which says experts are getting in the way of the economic agenda. i think that's something we should be wary of. when the president plays scientist, as he does when he says he knows better, or when he's now about to tell us whether or not it's safe to go into church and overrule cdc guidelines, we all to be wary. now if you asked me, based on what we know today, versus people who are elderly go elbow to elbow in a poorly circulated room where they're singing, therefore spreading the virus, strikes me as what we don't want
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to be doing right now. there are people of faith who are ceasaying your church is wh you are. when you connect at home, over zoom, that's the smart thing to do. the one thing we have learned is just because a government says you can do it, uss because donald trump says you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it. people unfortunately are showing more caution than the president here, and they continue to do that when it comes to church as well, in my hope. >> you can get an amen on that. yam yamiche and andy, thank you for joining me. congresswoman, the president was in your state trying to drum up his reelect. do you feel like these visits have a positive impact for him
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for voters who are not already on his team, shall we say. >> he was there to recognize workers. we have a lot of auto workers in our state. people feel like we stood up and retooled to make ventilators and masks, so i think there's appreciation of recognition of what michigan has done in this crisis, but i do think at this point people have largely taken their sides, and they tend to view it that way. we had protesters as well, but i think it's important to recognize who stood up in this crisis. so i think some people appreciate that, for shirr. >> i want to play for you a bite of donald trump. this is him talking about threatening the state of michigan if he doesn't get his way. let's listen to him for a
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moment. >> reporter: a lot of people in michigan are flooded out, the last thing they need a a threat from the president. >> we're looking at the floods, the people why the arm corps of engineers. we have fema there. i spoke with the governor, governor whitmer yesterday. we have a very good understand. >> reporter: how about the funding you threatened? >> no, we'll take a look. that was unrelated to that. >> of course, it is related in the sense that it's related to voting, that he is trying to suppress mail-in voting, and he's threatening states now. this is governor whitmer now. >> threatening to take money away from a state that is hurting as we are now is scary and unacceptable. my hope is that today he will be in michigan, he will see we are hard-working, good americans, we need support of our federal government as much as anybody
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else, if not more because of this added challenge. >> it occurs to me, congresswoman that donald trump just got impeached for this, withholding money that had been allocated by congress to a foreign country is what he god impeached for, pretending he could super cede after of the people with the purse. the fear is that he could do this to a governor or state. voila, we are here. what is congress going to do about the fact that this guy is doing the exact same thing again, but he's not doing it to ukraine, he's doing it to american states? >> this is where words matter, right? i cannot tell you how it struck the hard of every michigander where he saw the dam breaks, and then the president was
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threatening fiscal issues. i hope he's serious we'll get help with this, but this huge delta between his words and deeds. obviously it's not permissible, not appropriate, not okay for the president of the united states to threaten the assistance of a state for his own personal grudges. you know, it's a longly anyof things that the president has threatened. congress can provide some oversight. congress can make sure the money effectively goes out to all the states, but the fundamental question to me is why do that? you're out of step, even with the republicans in the state of michigan. you don't see our senior republicans talking like that and acting like that. actually they showed up in masks today, right? they condemned some of the protests he's been lauding in our state. he's just out of step. i think that's an interesting
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thing to note, given that for many, many years they've been in lockstep. >> i just want to play you what senator harris had to say about this very topic, the idea of donald trump trying to withhold money to punish a state. >> mr. president, it is a federal crime to withhold money from states with the purpose of interference with people's right to vote. so you may want to talk with your lawyer bill barr about that. >> it is hard to imagine a president being impeached twice, but if donald trump withholds money from a united states state to bully them politically and try to get his way on mail-in voting, is he potential facing impeachment of the house again? >> well, again, we would have to see what the facts were. the man is classically known for saying one thing and doing another, so i believe in watching where the facts go on
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things. i certainly think that congress has a responsibility to watch this issue, especially with trillions going out from the federal go. with all these appropriations that we're doing for covid-19. that's why we have insisted on oversight bodies. and we know with that much money moving through the system monkey business can happen. so he's going to have to submit to the oversight, and if not, we'll go via the courts. no one wants to do that. hopefully we'll see in short order he will provide us the resource we need. people need it. just look at the pictures. we need the help and he shouldn't be withholding it for a grudge. >> indeed. that seems perfectly clear. congresswoman slotkin, appreciate it. will trump become the first president in a generation to lose his bit for reelection? and how many people supported him are saying, no thank you,
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welcome back. that was a piece of what i would argue was the best political ad of the 2016 campaign cycle. a pro-trump ad from an outside group that reinforced donald trump's claim that he was the candidate of the regular man. that ran on a loop in swing states like pennsylvania and michigan, but now as he faces reelection, trump is engulfed by
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questions of corruption, as he runs against the real version of what he only pretended about, a regular guy, a regular joe, if you might add. according to a national poll yesterday, joe biden is now leading trump by 11 percentage points with the support of a majority of voters, 50% favor biden, while 39% are for trump. hitting 50% is a rather big deal. his lead has grown by three points last month despite the low profile during the pandemic. that may explain donald trump's frantic attempts to suppress vote by mail. >> we don't want them to do mail-in ballot. it will lead to total election fraud. we don't want mail-in ballots. we don't want anyone to do it. if somebody has to mail it in
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because they're sick, or by the way, because they lift in the white house and they have to vote in florida, they won't be in florida, if there's a reason for it, that's okay. if there's a reason. if there's not -- we don't want to take any chances with fraud in our elections. >> uh-huh. uh-huh. despite receiving far more media coverage than biden, far more, trump is still not satisfied. today he made it explicit that he expects hits favorite news channel, fox news to promote his claim. he complained that fox news is doing nothing to help republicans and me get reelected on november 3. steve, this set of polls explains a bit of what's going on inside of donald trump's head, as he's thinking about things like mail-in voting, et cetera. the here are the numbers, michigan, biden up 6.5,
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wisconsin biden up 2.7. these are the numbers that have to make hi campaign manager nervous, because joe biden is the regular joe. what do you make of how he's trying to fix that problem? >> well, good even, joy, right now donald trump is losing. he's losing the race because of the incompetent and ineptitude to responding to the pandemic. coming into memorial day weekend, this is the lost spring of american history, the american people largely have been locked away at home. most of us have not been working. people we've learned are having to go out to risk their lives to be able to provide the essential services we have seen heroism with our healthcare workers,
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with our first responders yet again, but with donald trump we've seen negligence, an absence of leadership. we've seen him recommending the injection of household disinfectants to fight the virus, something he told us would never hit the u.s. shores. he talked about how great a job the chinese have done. we have seen him engage in loony conspiracy theories, and we've seen him melt down, blaming the press, obama, anybody for someone who has failed. we're about five months away from the election. the american people have taken his measure, and they're looking at him saying, wow, the guy who said he alone could fix it, the man who promised to make america great again has led to the most severe and serious period of
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prec prec precipitous decline. the country is poorer, more sick than it ever has been. no one is better off than four years ago. >> that man of steel ad that ran. i remember traveling to pennsylvania, ohio, seeing that ad on tv constantly. what i thought worked about it, it didn't talk about donald trump at all, it talked about the idea of american hands, american steel getting back in business. i can see that as something you could sell to a working-class audience of all races. at this point, donald trump that is presided over really helping the rich, really trying to be a celebrity, really trying to sort of break into the world of fame, but that thing he hasn't done much with. i'm noting he's still leading
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among white working-class men, and that lives at the same time that brad parskal, he's tweeting out we're the death star, that was his tweet earlier, but the headline of -- >> partial he didn't watch the movie. >> he doesn't mknow how the move ended. apparently he's raked in $40 million from the president's committees. he's feeding from the trough. let's take a look at this. >> brad parskal to the man trump can't win without. he's getting rich. how rich? really rich, but don't tell donald. he would wonder how brad can afford so much. he even has his very own yacht. a gorgeous ferrari, a sleek
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range rover. brad braggs about uses private jets. oh, my, brad's a star! >> you guys are great at trolling, but i wonder how this ends up polls. people like celebrities, right? him being around beyonce, that's great for him, right? will this kind of portrayal of trump's people as feeders raking in money, will that move voters away from him? >> i don't know that it will move voters specifically to that ad, joe, but the ad is true. stewart stevens made the point when you look at trump, it's like elvis in the final days, trying to get as much money out of the deal as possible, giving him as many sandwiches as they can get into him.
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that's what this is. it's all a giant scam. donald trump, the great businessman, got taken by his i.t. guy, right? we have the i.t. guy in charge of the campaign buying fehr rashis, condos, yachts. a lot of people are getting rich by doing wrong to the american people. we have fox hosts make millions a year, telling people to go out, stop social distancing, open up your businesses while they're ensconced on their estates. you know, it's just outrageous hypocri hypocrisy, and one more piece in the mosaic of hypocrisy, the mosaic of the great con that the country has been subjected to by a reality show pretend businessman, who has done tremendous damage through hi
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incompetent and ineptitude. >> trump also is buying the same stuff. he's selling it and he's buying it too. steve schmidt, thank you very much. please be safe. thank you. breaking new now. there's a new arrest indeed shooting death of ahmaud arbery. ben crump will join us next. ar. ben crump will join us next. embs a credit on their auto insurance. because it's the right thing to do. we're also giving payment relief options to eligible members so they can take care of things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. right now is the time to take care of what matters most. like we've done together, so many times before. discover all the ways we're helping members at usaa.com/coronavirus
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what do we know works from other countries at this point? what could we still change to try to emulate countries' best practices? are there things we've got wrong?
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we have breaking news tonight in the ahmaud arbery case. william "roddie" bryan has been arrested. he was the man who filmed the brutal shooting of arbery. he was out for a run, according to his family. he was chased down, shot and killed by gregory mcmichael and his son travis mcmichaels. the mcmichaels have said they believed arbery was a burglary suspect. bryan was in a vehicle that tried to cut ar dbery off. the video us what the catalyst for the arrest of the
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mcmichaels. bryan has maintained his innocence. the family called on the georgia bureau of investigation to arrest bryan. i'm joined by benjamin crump. walk us through this, ben. originally it looked like the two cars were working in some way, right? they were together, but the second man was separated. is the allegation that they were working in tandem? >> that's exactly right, joy. we believe he was an accomplice to this excuse of ahmed, because the police report, gregory mcmichael stated that roddie cut him off. when you put that in the context
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of the text message sent to gregory mcmichael, and the homeowner saying next time he comes through, don't call the police, call gregory mcmichael. this was an organized effort of them to capture this young man when he came jogging through their naked. so the significant of that is there was a potential that the man in the second car could be a witness in the case. we just started the criminal process, and it will be interesting what agreements individuals make or won't make, as they try to protect themselves. we believe william roddie bryan was part of this from not only
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that part of the statement, but remember, when you watch that chase, where he's running for his life, you see over four minutes that they cars are chasing him, and so for him to tell us that he was just an indeed bystander is not supported by what we see in the video. so the charge is absolutely appropriate. >> i understand there's a retirement in that police department. can you give us detail on that? the police is now retired from the force? >> in breonna's case, yes, ma'am. the police chief retired. so it is -- >> so that's a retirement in the taylor case? >> yes, ma'am. it's a great day for equal
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justice, joy, in both ahmaud arbery. we night not get to all of it, but for everybody who teal for bre, we want to stay focused as we get the march for justice for these two young people, who were both 26 years old, if they were living today, and had so much potential for this world. we have to stay vigilant. we cannot stop now. this is just the first steps towards justice. >> benjamin crump, thank you so much for coming on. we grabbed you at the last minute. i appreciate your time. if the breonna taylor case, the police chief has resigned. we had a thirdman arrested in the arbery case. thank you for the updates.
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welcome back. coronavirus cases are surging in brazil, making it the world's latest hot spot. they have more than 290,000 confirmed cases, more than any other country except the u.s. and russia. it saw the daily death toll top 1,000 for the first time. disturbing new pictures of freshly dug mass graves in the country's largest city sao
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paolo. bill neely joins us. how is bolsonaro responding to it? does he seem to be taking it at all seriously? >> reporter: hi, joy, he haus downplayed this right from the beginning. in fact a countrile weeks ago, when he was asked about the rising death toll, and he said, so what? what do you want me to do about it? he believes 70% of the conversation will get this virus, so he wants the economy to keep ticking. he is against lockdown, against social distancing. i've been speaking to doctors over the last two days who are simply furious at this, because they believe the cost is in thousands of lives. people simply don't know who to listen to. do they listen to the medical
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establishment, who is telling them to stay at home, or do they listen to the president who says go out and earn money, don't worry about the virus. in fact, he says, it's just a little flu. so he's a very divisive politici politician, joy, he has been from the beginning, he's antiestablishment, and certainly fighting the establishment here. i was speaking to the governor a couple nights ago, and he says there are two viruses, coronavirus and bolsonaro virus. >> wow. in this country, there is a huge disparity in terms of communities of color. i know brazil has similar demographics, even more of a black population that the united states has. is the same disparity playing out there? >> reporter: it really is, joy. this is one of the most unequal countries on earth. the virus has simply exposed
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some of those divisions. for example, it was almost certainly brought to brazil by richer, probably white people who were skiing in europe. that's what people here are saying, but the people who are getting it and dying now in the thousands are mostly the black under-class, the people who are living in the kind of slums we were in today. we were in the most densely packed place in latin america, where people are dying in large numbers. they are the people who are the cleaners, the maids, the mechanics, for the better-off people in brazil. it really is an unequal society. the people now pays the price are the poorest. isn't that just typical, joy? you know, it's always the poorest in these terrible
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situations who end up dying. they were dying in droves. i mean, 2,000 people in the last 48 hours? 20,000 new cases in the last 24 hours. this virus is just exploding. >> thank you so much for this report. i think it's important to understand it's not just here. it's not just in the united states. there are others that are very similar to donald trump. thank you so much, bill neely. please stay safe. up next, the author of a new book about the presidents club. where does trump fit in? this does he even want to be a member of this prestigious club? we're right back after this. pr? we're right back after this. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance.
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when all the living former presidents are together, it's also a special day for our democracy. we've been called the world's most exclusive club, and we do have a pretty nice clubhouse. the truth is our club's more like a support group. every president gains a greater appreciation for all those who served before them. the leaders from both parties who have taken on the momentous challenges and felt the enormous weight of a nation on their shoulders. >> welcome back. that was former president barack obama at the dedication of
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george w. bush's presidential library in 2013, speaking about the presidents club, the strong relationships between himself and other living past presidents despite their past political differences, at kate brower writes in her new book "team of five" donald trump does not quite fit in. she writes -- trump is proud of his ostracism and his contempt for his predecessors is obvious. the scorched-earth path he's chosen has made it impossible to have friendships. i'm a different kind of president, she declared. she notes, when i asked whether he would go to president obama's presidential library opening, the question sounded preposterous once spoken. he said, i don't know. he probably wouldn't invite me. why should he? similarly this week carol lee reported that trump also isn't
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planning to host president obama for his official white house portrayurtrait unveiling, notin trump is unconcerned about about shedding another tradition. and has no interest in participating in this rite of passage. i'm joined by the author of "team of five." wow wow wow. the submdismissiveness of this president toward his predecessors, let me play a bit. >> i get elected, and i beat the bush dynasty. okay. we beat the clinton dynasty, right? and then we beat barack hussein obama and whatever the hell
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dynasty is. i was at the funeral, said hello, and good-bye. that's about it. i didn't like the job he did. >> do you have any interest in reaches out to the presidents? >> i don't want to you know president obama ran against the iraq war. that was the thing he hinged his presidency on. eisenhower was not a fan of nixon. it's not all presidents were fans of one another but find a way to be in concert because they've had the same experience. what did you learn just looking at donald trump in that regard? >> well, when i interviewed him, he was completely dismissive and our interview was over and i was walking out of the oval office and he said say hi to president bush like elated in sarsarcasm. that's stark contrast to
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president obama and president george w. bush and george h.w. bush and i have reporting in the book the last former president to see bush senior alive was barack obama. they had a very emotional final meeting in houston just three days before bush passed away, and now we're in this middle of this terrible pandemic, and the president will not reach out to his predecessors and i know for a fact from my reporting that they all would love to help in any way they can. we've seen them help again and again in the past. >> yeah, and he could use some help to put it bluntly. i think about, you know, bill clinton and the closeness he developed ultimately with george herbert walker bush like a father to him. this is the consistent way it's worked. there are 45 people with this job but this quote i thought was really telling from your book and it's about trump and empathy. he said i asked trump if being faced with difficult decisions that cross that famous desk because only the most difficult
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decisions reach the president had given him a new understanding and empathy for the men who came before him. no he replied flatly. he doesn't seem to have any emotional connection to the job or position. is he connected to anything about the presidency? >> i think he's connected to the power. he has 45 monogrammed on his shirt cuff. he likes that he can host people in the oval office. he's the most powerful person in the world. so i think that's a part of it that he likes but, you know, when you hear him talk about former presidents, it's always ones that passed away he talks about. lincoln comparing him to lincoln and andrew jackson. so it's the living former presidents he feels particularly threatened by. >> yeah. and i remember an andrew jackson
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moment he had. i want to talk with you about the death of a pretty significant one that took place as part of this coronavirus nightmare we're all living through. a former white house butler that served 11 presidents died after contracting the coronavirus. his name was wilson roosevelt german who was one of the white house's longest serving employees. he began as a cleaner in 1957 in the eisenhower administration and promoted during the kennedy presidency and retired in 2012. there are pictures with president obama. you know, the converging of that white house with black americans in the history, the people who have worked there and been part of the staff largely, you know, i remember being in the white house and seeing staffers and that connection they had to the white house was built by slaves. trump, i can't imagine honoring this man. i can't imagine him even talking about this man. these are the things he doesn't
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do. >> i mean, wilson german never thought he would live to see the first african american president and first lady, right? he was incredibly honored to be there. it was very emotional for him. i had interviewed him before for another book i wrote about the resident staff and he was beloved. i talked to one of his children today who said she never heard him once raise his voice. she said that the white house was his second family, both the staff and the presidents and first ladies and actually, wilson's wife passed away when he had young children, and the eisenhowers would give him food that they weren't using, you know. she would give it to him to take home to feed his family. it is a family atmosphere there, and i know that he was close with the obamas and on inauguration day, it was an overwhelming feeling for the african american butlers to see this moment they truly never thought would come. >> indeed. wilson roosevelt german will be remembered by your work and
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