>> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thanks for watching. first up on msnbc, day at the beach but with new rules and new warnings. >> from florida to virginia to california, many beach goers will enjoy their first sun-soaked days in months but with that freedom comes caution. >> what to expect this holiday weekend as a wave of reopenings sweeps across the country but at what cost. holy war. governors that won't let places of worship reopen yet. the latest remarks by dr. fauci on the prospects of a

coronavirus vaccine. the latest reaction to the dust up between the former vice president and someone called the god. does it matter to black voters. good morning, everybody it is saturday may 23rd. we'll start with a look at the city of detroit, retailers repairing to reopen on tuesday, bars, salons, entertainment venues like movie theatres will still remain closed. the weather there, kind of foggy there now, will be beautiful, partly sunny. some facts at this hour. overnight new york, which, of course, is the epicenter to the pandemic in the u.s. relaxing rules slightly. the governor, governor andrew cuomo, issuing an order allowing

gatherings f of up to 10 people anywhere in the state, including new york city, the hardest hit area. the da sent a letter to mayor eric garcia that lockdowns may be illegal. a new study shows covid-19 may still be spreading at epidemic rates in at least 24 states, specifically the south and midwest. the new research reportedly "the washington post," highlighting the risk of a second wave of infections in places possibly reopening too quickly or without sufficient precautions. another study found those who received hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malaria drug, had a significantly higher risk of death compared to those who did not take it.

they analyzed 96,000 covid-19 hospitalized patients on six continents showed people on the drug were likely to develop irregul irregular heart rhythms. this morning there are more than 1.6 million cases in this country alone. also new, president trump calling on places of worship to reopen this weekend, deeming them essential. monica alba is at the white house with more. good morning. the president threatened to override governors if they don't allow places of faith to reopen. is this setting the stage for potential conflict with officials? >> reporter: it seems that way. good morning. the president made a surprise announcement in the briefing room yesterday when he came out to get ahead of his own cdc guidelines for houses of worship, urging churches, mosques and synagogues to open

their doors this memorial day weekend without explaining how that would work. listen to his justification to the move here on friday. >> some governors deemed liquor stores and abortion centers as essential but left out houses of worship, it's not right. i'm correcting this injustice calling houses of worship essential. >> reporter: many questions about how exactly this would work and when the press secretary was asked to explain under what authority the president could, in his words, override the governors, she could not explain that, saying she hoped states would operate with cdc guidelines but noting the guidance itself is voluntary and they urge each state to make the decision how this would work. they urge anyone who does participate in one of these to wear face coverings to be completely socially distance and

not use any communal items inside. that makes it complicated for the president who has wanted to rile up his evangelical voters, his base that got him here and elected into the white house as he heads into a second term. we'll have to wait and see this weekend exactly how this plays out, guys. >> let's talk about the press secretary because this was an interesting moment. i know she's new on the job, but she was trying to brag a little bit yesterday and then what happened? >> the president donates his quarterly salary, something the white house makes a show of. usually they blow up the checks and present it in a game-show style to make show of whatever agency the president is donating it to. in this case it was the health and human services department but kayleigh held up what appeared to be one of donald

trump's own checks with his name on it and also had his banking and account information on it. that is what's raising so many eyebrows today. you can see it has the president's new residence, his home, his resort in south florida. the white house has not gotten back to us to explain how this happened, why they did it and what they might do to rectify it. it does raise questions going forward, the security of something that should be so personal for each person, not just the president of the united states. >> the democrats have been fighting-to-for two years to get his taxes. just go to kayleigh, i'll sure she'll hand it out like that. brazil, we talk about the united states being hit hard. kwoo quietly brazil has been hit hard, taking the number two spot after the united states for the most covid-19 cases in the world.

>> the video tells the story, fresh graves being dug outside sal palo. >> where a striking number of people are being hospitalized -- >> reporter: on brazil's front line, the casualties are mounting, tens of thousands of new cases every day. this intensive care unit like most, full. >> what's striking is how young people are in here. >> yeah, it's incredible because most of people is around 40 years old. >> 40? >> 40. >> some are in their 30s? >> yes. >> reporter: the death toll is doubling so fast they can't dig the graves quickly enough. these are the most vulnerable, living in latin america's most densely related area. their poverty turbo charging brazil's death toll. people live here sometimes six

or seven to a room so social distancing is impossible. and if they don't go out to work, they don't eat. you're worried, it's difficult? and they're scared. most people don't wear masks. they can't get them. they've lost jobs so they're fed by aid groups. in the center of brazil's richest city, the newly jobless line up for food. their president announced billions in aid but he wants lockdowns to end and brazil to get back to work. at a soccer stadium, a new field hospital ready for the next wave. brazil, experts say, still weeks away from their peak. still weeks away from the peak and the talk about the virus going away in the eat, average temperature in rio 85 degrees. now to the latest in new york state where the governor is issuing an executive order allowing any gathering up to 10

people as long as there's social dista distance that's observed. >> the state has more than 368,000 coronavirus cases, nearly 30,000 deaths. corey coffin joining us from new york. if you go to an area in central park you might see it happening already, you setons e tons of fs gathered in the meadow. what's happening there? >> reporter: this is after a lawsuit was filed because the governor on thursday issued an executive order saying that for religious purposes or for memorial day celebrations gatherings up to 10 people could happen. the new york civil liberties union filed a lawsuit saying it didn't go far enough because protections under the first amendment were still not allowed so it needs to be expanded and in a surprising move, the

governor went ahead and reversed his executive order and on friday, late yesterday, issuing a new executive order saying gatherings up to 10 people can happen anywhere in the state of new york. the but he said, of course, strict social distancing guidelines still need to be adhered to. he talked about that yesterday. >> the mask can make the difference between the life and death. it is not just a nice thing to do, a responsible thing to do. a citizen duty. it is mandatory that you wear the mask within 6 feet of another person in public. you don't have a right to infect another person. you don't. >> reporter: so all of this, of course, coming after there was new information that came out about how easy it is to contract the virus airborne, different for services but easy in the air. and new information saying up to

75% of those particulars could be presented by wearing the mask. the governor re-emphasizing that yesterday. and state leaders will be bracing this weekend for an influx of people coming to the beaches but not here in new york city where they remain shuttered other than, of course, walking around and being able to enjoy it locally, minimally. >> so beaches are open everywhere, except new york city. we'll see how that plays out on a warm memorial day weekend. thank you. as we move on right now, we'll talk about -- head to long island, new york where the beaches are open as we mentioned for the holiday weekend. >> joining us is laura curren, nassau county executive. we're talking about memorial day weekend, people want to go out forget this is happening enjoy a day at the beach, what are the rules? >> we are at 50% capacity like

the rest of the state. we're checking the driver's license of people coming into our parking lots. parking lots are cut basically in half by putting cones between each space, one way to ensure social distancing and making sure we can enforce that 50% capacity. >> were you hoping at all that new york city would open its beaches? i can imagine that a lot of people from new york, they still enjoy beaches we'll flock to neighboring nassau county. >> i spoke with mayor de blasio, the mayor of new york city, i understand his reasoning, they have density issues in new york city, you can get hundreds of thousands of people at the beaches. i understand. it's up to the local jurisdiction to enforce this, so if he feels this isn't the right time, i get it. but i have to make sure i'm looking out for my residents. because we are packed at 50%, we

have made our beach nassau county resident only. you have to give them priority, those are the folks paying the taxes, i want them to have a fair shot enjoying their summer. this law, residents only, sun sets when new york city deems it safe to reopen their beaches. >> that law does limit the access to the public beaches on the south shore of long island to residents only. good plan on your part looking out. >> jones beach run by the state. are you worried that beach might be overwhelmed as a result of beaches like yours checking licenses? >> jones beach is huge, there's a lot of space there. the state troopers are there, they have it set up. so far day one was yesterday, it ran very smoothly. it was a beautiful, sunny day, things went well. i am optimistic.

people are smart, they get it. i am predicting a smooth summer. >> can we tell the mayor of new york that? new yorkers are smart, we can social distance at the beaches. i get off the soap box. >> i respect his decision, i understand it p. it's a denser place. we're more spread out here, most people drive to the beach. in the city it's packed together, smaller beaches, public transportation. >> valid point we look forward to seeing your beaches later on, in september when it's nice and warm. >> thank you for joining us. have a good memorial day weekend. cautious optimism as a top official says a vaccine may be months away. and progress towards an effective treatment for coronavirus. celebrating while still social distancing, the challenges as millions prepare to mark a major muslim holiday amid the pandemic. r muslim holiy amid the pandemic.

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let's turn now to new jersey where beaches are open just in

time for the holiday weekend. >> mara berit is at the jersey shore right there in the south. this is usually a very, very big weekend for new jersey, i'm sure a lot of people are happy the beaches are open, but i'm sure there are also plenty of restrictions. >> reporter: exactly. there definitely are. this weekend you can see it's sta starting to rain, expecting to storm later. officials telling me that could help in their plans for social distancing but they have a lot of restrictions in place. i talked to the mayor yesterday and listen to what they're planning for when the crowds do come. >> everyone has heard of social distancing. that is the summer of 2020 phrase, social distancing. so we're going to continue doing that. the p.a. system will be announcing social distancing. there are signs. we're going to have banner

planes in sea isle city reminding people of the rules, social distancing, stay 6 feet apart, stay safe. wear your mask. >> reporter: so among these signs that are going to be out, the volunteers reminding folks to keep their distance, wear their masks. the restaurants are closed, only doing take out and delivery and a lot of the motels and hotels are closed and they can't do short term rentals. even though they're ready for the influx, they're trying to have a slow reopen for the beach. unfortunately with the poor weather it's not ideal, i grew up in the area and memorial day is never a good weekend here. but we're close to philadelphia, new york and d.c., so they're used to the influx. the jersey shore areas, they've been nervous about whether or not this is going to have a big

economic impact. these areas warning residents not to come to the shore because they want to keep everybody safe and ease back into it as the summer goes on. >> a similar concern for beaches across the country. obx, big weekend. props by the way on the color coordination with the mask and your sweater. >> i was trying to get some beach vibes going, but it didn't work out. >> got to switch it up. >> you have to coordinate. can't just go with the mask. maura berit, thanks so much. as we move to the search for solutions. >> moderna announced results for the vaccine trial this week. dr. fauci himself said he's cautiously optimistic about this, calling it promising. >> having looked at the data myself, it is really quite promising in the sense of that in the phase one study, which is the first step towards the development of a vaccine,

through its multiple phases, the vaccine induced what we call neutralizing antibodies, as opposed to just behindiinding antibodies. >> joining us is dr. benjamin cowling. doctor, thank you for being here, what is your reaction to those comments right there from dr. fauci? are you a little bit more optimistic that we might have a vaccine in less than a year and a half? >> certainly cautiously optimistic, but this is a preliminary announcement about the results of their first study which would be the first in a sequence of studies. all would need to go well before

we ultimately would have a vaccine that we could use. >> are you as confident with the time line we could have something by the end of the year and what are the concerns with rushing the process or doing something this quickly? >> it's good news, there's a lot of different companies looking at ways to make vaccines so if the moderna one works maybe we could have a vaccine in us by the end of the year. but if it doesn't work, there are other companies looking at vaccines, so i guess by early 2021 hopefully one of those will work out if the moderna one doesn't. >> the next few months will be critical. while the early studies involved a smaller group, the studies that begin in july will really make or break the possible vaccines that are out there? >> that's right. it's relatively easy to show a good result in a small study, in this case with maybe 100 or so

people. once you get to the larger study that involves thousands or tens of thousands of people and you have to show it protects against real-life situations, that's challenging for vaccines to show results in those studies. so it'll be critical the second half of the year. >> let's say moderna comes through with us for something effective how does that then become mass produced for millions of people just in this country? >> you need hundreds of millions of doses of any kind of vaccine in the united states and worldwide many more doses than that, and factories aren't necessarily ramped up to do this type of vaccine. so they're ramping up to be able to make moderna's vaccine, but i'm sure there are a lot of

companies happy to help with that process, partner together with moderna. >> as we look at all of this, all that's happening, the different companies and countries, do you get a sense this is turning out to be a global competition or are organizations kind of working together and countries working together to come up with one vaccine that could fix this? >> certainly i know there's more than 100 different companies or universities or organizations working on covid vaccines at the moment. a chinese company reported some promising results, also a small study in phase one, they reported that in the past few days. and i know there are other vaccines which are going to report soon. i think competition helps because then everybody is pushing hard to be the first one and it's going to be the one that grabs a lot of market share and is used very, very widely. for all of us we'd love a vaccine as soon as possible. >> it's like the modern day version of a cold war where

we're all racing to see who can get -- back then the weapons, but now to see who can get the vaccines for our own people? >> yeah. it reminds me of the 1940s and '50s in the u.s. with polio vaccines, the enacted vaccine and then the overall vaccine. it was the injected one that won that race and later on peach switched to that one. it reminds me of that competition where competition does help. >> thank you for your expertise this morning. now to the other controversy back here where former vice president joe biden seems to be backtracking a little bit on comments he made about black voters. >> how it could hurt his campaign. how it could hurt his campaign you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from anyone else.

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the coronavirus pandemic. brazil has now the second highest number of confirmed cases of any country outside the united states with more than 330,000 surpassing russia. the country's health ministry said this week that number is likely to get much higher because there isn't been widespread testing. the president of that country, t has repeatedly played down the threat of the virus. >> back here in the u.s. hertz is the latest to file for bankruptcy because of the pandemic. the century-old company said it's planning to stay in business. hertz has been hit hard by worldwide travel restrictions. nba hall of fame legend patri patrick ewing said covid-19 is to be taken seriously and he knows why. he confirmed he tested positive

for the coronavirus, and is hospitalized for it. he announced it in a tweet said it should not be taken lightly. in florida, more than 300 deputies will be deployed on beaches this weekend to make sure they're not too crowded. deputies will report status updates to a mobile command center every 30 minutes and that information will be displayed for the public online in real time. officials say they want to help people practice social distancing. >> everybody should know we're going to make every single effort to redirect them to the open spaces so we ask them to work with us and move to the open sand area. well, now to joe biden. the former vice president is expressing regret for comments that he made to a radio show host. here's the comment that had some people calling it controversial. >> it's a long way until november. we got more questions --

>> you got more questions? i tell you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or trump, you ain't black. >> it hasn't nothing to do with trump, it has to do with the fact i want something for my community. >> hours later biden walked back those comments on a call with black business leaders. >> the last thing i wanted to do, and i shouldn't have been such a wise guy. i shouldn't have been so cavalier in responding to what i thought was -- anyway, it was -- i don't take it for granted at all, and no one, no one should have to vote for any party based on their race, their religion, their background. >> the "new york post" on the cover with joe biden saying "meet joe black". thank you for being here sonam. the biden camp said the comment was made in jest. what is the larger context here

within this interview? >> yeah, so this is a show that has huge political clout, especially with the voters that biden was addressing when he said if you don't know whether you support biden or trump then you ain't black. you know, let's not forget that this also comes after biden refused to initially appear on the show a few months after he launched his campaign last year. at the time charlemagne the god said biden's unwillingness to appear made him uncomfortable bau because he said that biden's willingness to appeal to black voters. and now it's coming back to the headlines because of what he said. so the context he said them in, the show he said them in, i think could have larger political fallout for him going forward. >> let's talk about the potential fallout, what kind of

backlash is he facing? >> biden's support among black voters has been until now rock solid. it's unlikely this interview alone will do much to erode that. however as we've seen the trump campaign will do whatever it can to chip away at that support and biden gave them a ton of ammunition. moving forward we've seen the trump campaign respond to this and seize to biden's comments as evidence he doesn't care about the african-american community. when we look at critical swing states like michigan and wisconsin i expect the trump campaign to double down on their criticism of biden there. especially because those states are places where lower black voter turn out hurt hillary clinton and the democratic party during the 2016 election. >> a couple of facts on all of this. the -- president trump has like a 3% approval rating among black democrats. he has said in the past that any

jewish person who votes for a democrat is either uninformed or greatly disloyal to israel. so he's had plenty of controversial issues when it comes to this stuff, but that said, the trump campaign very quick to seize on the remarks, even with marketing. >> yeah, absolutely. and i think that the kind of choice that voters -- a lot of voters are going to be making in the november election isn't going to be do i vote for biden or trump? it could be do i vote for biden or not vote at all? especially when we look at younger voters, younger black voters, someone like biden has to be careful making comments that could be offensive to a group it's not necessarily just the trump campaign saying you should vote for me instead. obviously that would be the ideal choice for them but a lot of it is to engender the voter

apathy for so many people to stay home in 2016, and played a large role in handing that election to trump too. >> this is one example in what many would consider maybe a long series of gaffes from candidate biden. it seems like time and again he says things that back him into a corner, get him in trouble. do you think that from here until november this will have any staying power. whether it's what he said here that he apologized for or the next slip he makes? >> i think it's both those things. i think this will have some staying power because of the gravity of what he said and the context in which he said it. but as we talked about so often, biden is a famously gaffe prone candidate and doesn't apologize often when he makes mistakes. that's another reason why it's so significant that he apologized quickly for these comments. it seems like his campaign was

aware of, you know, the potential fallout which we're starting to see. we have six months to go until the election. i think we'll see a lot more of these types of slipups from the candidate. >> all of that said, this is a week when he narrowed down his list of vp candidates and included a senator from new hampshire and amy klobuchar from minnesota. after the last 48 hours it got narrowed down to a few black women, probably. >> right. exactly. >> thank you, appreciate it. turning to the muslim holiday beginning sunday. it's usually a joyous time filled with celebrations and large gatherings but this year it'll look a lot different. joining us from london is amon. good to see you. how are those celebrations going to be different this year around? >> reporter: this year they're going to be online and at home.

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like so many others the entertainment industry is taking a massive financial hit because of coronavirus and some experts say it may never fully recover. according to a new poll published by variety.com. 44% of people say in the future they would not feel as comfortable attending public events as they did before the pandemic began. >> the impact this could have on

the company, alexis joins us. i was looking forward to many concerts this fall, rickey martin and enrique iglesias. 49% of people say they may never return to movie theatres, even after they've been given the green light. what does this mean for that industry in the long run? >> i'm with you. there were plans on my calendar too to go to some of the events, i love live theatre and none of that is happening for quite some time. i myself don't feel comfortable going back, even if the restrictions are lifted. so more people are feeling cautious than they were in mid march as we've seen the lockdowns happen. so as time has gone on people are perhaps more vigilant and

cautious. in terms of the entertainment industry people i talk to say it will recover it will just take a long time. the ultimate metric of what's going to bring people back is something they have no control over, they can't control a cure for covid-19. and according to a survey, a majority of the people said until a vaccine is found, which could be 12 to 18 months away and that time line may be aggressive, they don't feel comfortable comeing back to the public venues at the pre-pandemic levels. >> we're seeing a resurgence of drive-in theatres, is that going to scratch the itch for people? >> it's ironic, a relic of the

industry could be the saving grace. first time movies people may be able to see them on the big screen at a drive-in. i spoke to an owner last week who said their double feature was sold out and their website crashed because so many people wanted to get in there. in the short to medium term, drive in theatres could be a viable option. there's a diner near me that turned their parking lot into a pop up drive in. if that's any indication. >> reinventing business. >> you get a sense if you're in a movie theatre and somebody sneezes, it's the equivalent of somebody yelling fire. what about broadway, that's expected to be shutdown until labor day. people saying it could take months before they see a live performance. could this mean fewer shows not just in new york but really at

theatres all across the country? >> i think sadly you're right because, and you hit it, broadway is smaller than the movie industry, the theatres tend to be smaller, you're in enclosed spaces, with live actors, so the idea of someone coughing or sneezing or breathing on you could have people not wanting to go. 51% of the people in this survey said it could take a few months before returning to a theatre in new york. and a lot of shows are on a tight budget. we've seen a lot of shows that had just opened or were slated to open said we're not going to. and the question is the venues, can they survive. so i think the footprint of broadway is going to be small ereven when restrictions are listed. >> some of the shows have already been cancelled on broadway. i'm like you, i love live

theatre, looking forward to when it comes back. actress lori loughlin pleads guilty to charges stemming from the college admissions scandal. the college admissions scandal

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well, today we're getting a glimpse of actress lori loughlin and her fashion designer husband making a court appearance by teleconference. they pleaded guilty in a college admissions bribery scheme. >> one said this may be a time for the world but a good time to be facing sentencing. that analyst joins us now is danny savalas. good morning. how does covid-19 help with a guilty plea? >> if you're a defense attorney, like me with clients who may be sentenced in the future, now is a good time to get in front of a state or federal judge.

to judge wants to be the one month sentenced a low-risk offender to incarceration and have them get sick with covid and possibly die. judges are pretty mindful of this, at least the ones i've been in hearings with. they have to weigh this carefully. it's a difficult challenge. the whole idea is to separate people that may be dangerous to society. on the other hand, the whole idea behind incarceration is put everybody into a building and have them essentially live on top of each other. the attorney general and the bureau of prisons have policies now that are encouraging release for certain offenders. the challenge is there's no hard math formula for who gets released and who doesn't. >>ing on. so let's talk about these two? how much time do they face and how much time will they actually serve? >> the recommended sentence agreed upon by the prosecutors and the defendants is two months and i believe five months for

laughlin's husband. they had a potential maximum of 20 years. they were never going to get that because they are first-time offenders. under recommended sentences guidelines, they were looking at 21 to 27 months. by any standard, this is a very lenient sentence when you consider many months ago, they said if you plead guilty right away, you're going to get a sentence like felicity huffman, 14 days. if you hold out, we're going to add more charges, and they did add more charges. when you plead later, it will be worse for you. yet they pleaded later, as most criminal defendants do, and they actually got a pretty lenient sentence. in a way, the government must have been bluffing on this particular case. >> michael cohen was released thursday. paul manafort got out just over a week ago.

even though there were no virus cases in manafort's prison in pennsylvania, he was released. so what's at play here? >> with these two defendants, manafort and cohen, factors weighed in their future. they hadn't served 50% of their sentences. but, otherwise, it's their age and any kind of health issues they can marshall up to show a judge or a court or the bureau of prisons that weighed in their favor. another huge factor of course is having able counsel to fight this at the bureau of prisons and with the courts that convicted them.

so many prisoners are sitting around wondering why not me? in terms of home confinement, they are essentially serving their terms in their apartments. if you're michael cohen or paul manafort, home confinement is not such a big deal. it's a pretty good time to get home confinement. >> it all depends on what the meaning is. michael cohen just recently renovated his place in new york. i'm sure it's pretty nice. our thanks to you. thanks for watching. i'm lindsay riser. >> i'm kendis gibson. >> up next with alex witt, surf, sun and effort sa. precautions to take to the beach to avoid the perils of coronavirus. s of coronavirus. 's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ yeah that's all me. ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ nothing is everything.

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