projectionses were into the -- where i think we started out at about 50 sunrise are,000. obviously every death is unfortunate, when you look at comparison to other states in this has 5,532 confirmed deaths whereas new york has 3,094. it's been a national and international tragedy that much has had to grapple with, and we're trying to learn from every day and move forward. >> look, we're in a political environment here. i get it, i understand it, i'm a big boy. i can say all day long i refuse to politicize this discussion, and i have not and i will not, because i represent democrats and republicans and independents, atheists, short

people, tall people. the politics makes no difference to me. i have no political agenda. i have no political aspirations. i can saying that, but we're still in an election year and people are still playing politics and this is a hyper-partisan environment. who the extent people want to politicize this issues, and republicans are saying, well, new york did this, new york followed the president's agencies' guidance so that depoliticizes it. what new york did did is follow what the republican administration said to do that's not my attempt to politicize it. it's my attempt to depoliticize

it. so don't criticize the state for following the president's policy. go ahead. >> reporter: thousands of those patients coming into nursing homes has nothing to do with the high number of deaths we have seen in new york? >> yeah. we have gone through the infection rate many times and nothing has changed. >> reporter: how likely is the region that opened will enter phase two this weekend in. >> we're watching the numbers. we said two weeks between phases. that's a rule of thumb. there's no magic or science to that. that's not a hard and fast number. where the two weeks comes from is, quotes/unquote, experts say that's the margin of time you have to see if an infection did increase, and the infection incubated, man fested, the

person got iland went into the hospital. that would take about two weeks. but if you see no increase in any of the numbers, could you accelerate that? yes. >> reporter: did you decide to go into phase two -- >> the phase two is different from phase one. phase one is basically a hard start or stop, right? either you hit this number or you don't hit this number. phase two, and rob will correct me if i'm wrong, phase two is more a judgment call of when had the numbers stabilized to the extent there is an increase, can you explain the increase? or is the increase problematic? the two weeks i explained, i don't know if there's a hard set of numbers for phase two. >> two weeks is not said.

it's in relation to the 14-day incubation period. however, to go to phase two would modify the executive order and then put out all of the guidelines for all of the phase two districts. those are being prepared now, they'll be ready. if we don't see an uptick in the health metrics and you still have a green light, nothing has gone to yellow, those regions would move to phase two. >> reporter: -- executive orders of allowing gatherings of ten people, how do you think that affects the state's able to reopen. >> theoretically it shouldn't. it's a cdc guideline, also, the ten people. gatherings up to ten. it's the same answer to all these questions.

it depends on how people act. you can have a safe gathering of ten people. you can also have an unsave gathering of ten people, of three people, it only takes two. or you can have a safe gathering of ten. you know, it depends on what people do. >> reporter: do you feel pressure to make that move? -- the lawsuit fight on friday? >> i didn't know about the lawsuit. on any given day if we don't have three lawsuits, something is going wrong. >> reporter: should you be having gatherings of ten people? >> can you say it again? >> just because the executive orders says you can have a gathering up to ten, should people be gathering? >> look. this is the whole point. all of these are measuring risk, right?

risk/reward. my daughter mikaela is here. risk/reward. it's a constant lecture of mine. two people is a risk, five, ten, the risk keeps going up. any one of those people could be infected and not know it. any one of those people could be infected, love you to death and still give you the coronavirus and then you could give it to someone and it could kill someone. so is it worth the risk? you have to make the judgment. that's why i'm saying it has nothing to do with government at the end of the day. i have a whole operational role. but these are people and the virus spread. i just give them the information and say -- here are the facts, and exercise judgment.

hughes what happened if you don't. you weigh the risk/reward. if you dont have to be with a group of ten people, don't be with a group of ten people. it doesn't mean a governor signed the executive order, let's now have a party up to ten people. >> considering the rising rates -- >> last one, mr. jessie. >> reporter: the rising rates, is there anything that you are considering, like future measures, to stop that second wave, curbing those regions do not seem to have this under control. >> if you're asking would new york now quarantine against people coming from other locales into new york, because they could be bringing a virus here? i don't think -- first, mobility is way down.

you have less tourism, less business travelers, et cetera. on the numb berers, and i don'tw that legally one state can bar other states from entrance, and i don't think it is good policy. i know when the shoe was on the other foot, there was talk of other states saying, well, i'm going to quarantine against new yorkers coming here. i thought it was wrong then, and i think it's wrong now. [ inaudible question ] >> can i just finish? can i finish jessie's question? >> the only follow -ufollow-up,

anything in the toolbox to prevent -- what sort of thinking are you going through in order to prevent a second wave? >> well, look. the second wave -- you can have people coming from outside and infect your population, right? that's how we got here in the first place. where i'm really outraged is how the infection -- how we got infected from europe when nobody told us. it was all about china, and we're all looking to the west on people coming from china, a china travel ban. meanwhile, it came from the east, and it came from europe. nobody ever said, watch out for those european travelers they could be bringing the coronavirus. by the time we closed down china, the virus had already left china and was in europe. then we had 3 million europeans

come. that's how this happened. which is still mind-boggling to me that with all these global health organizations, with all these global health experts, public health experts, federal agencies, whole alphabet soup, nobody realized that the virus had left china and gone to europe in? nobody realized people from europe were traveling all over the world and bringing the virus? nobody realized that planes from europe land at jfk and newark airplane? that is still to me mind-boggling, but that's how it came here in the first place. new york, a state government, does not have the capacity. look, i couldn't have done anything about it anyway except yell, right? legally the state can't close its borders to european

visitors. that's a federal action. i don't believe a state can control -- close its borders to other states. i believe legally that would be challenged and i'm not even sure the federal government could do that. so that i don't believe there's a state role in setting borders. but even if we do get infected by someone, the question really then turns to controlling that infection. that's testing, tracing, et cetera. thank you. i'll seal ye you tomorrow, guys. okay, everyone. the andrew cuomo holding his daily briefing. good morning, everyone. i'm going to bring in our panel of reporters and doctors. cori coffin, monica alba, and

our medical contributors dr. natalie azar and kavita patel. cori is joining us from coney island. i'm curious, your big takeaway. can i just say i loved hearing the governor talk about our colleague rachel maddow and playing a clip from her show laus night. that was great. >> reporter: i already know which one is my favorite. i won't say, but looking forward to seeing the other five. we're fully in 2020 now.

>> everybody's left, though. it's drenched out here today. tomorrow and monday will be a different story, it will be different as official -- the big takeaway from the governor's press conference today, he's very happy that now the number of deaths from covid-19 have gone under 100 daily. it's an important benchmark he was trying to get to. the mid-hudson region here in new york is opening. also the governor emphasized the use of these masks, but also

testing as a way to move forward. we have seen officials passing out masks, encouraging people to keep their social distance, though there's not many people out here today. officials in other parts of the state of new york are a bit worried because of these city beaches here in new york are closed they're going to see an influx of new yorkers coming over to state beaches, so now they are limiting those to not only half capacity, but also to locals only. the governor today asking people to just maintain this, you know, your presence and awareness, and just keep your smarts about you on this holiday. of course, let's wrap it up all together with the commercials. those are set to be released later this week, alex. you make a good point. i know people might think about going on the to nassau and they said, no, no, you have to have a

resident pass to even access the parking lot. cori, thank you. go get dry. it's definitely raining. we can hear it. a short time ago, the president left the white house going to his golf club, his first visit since the pandemic. monica alba joins us on that, as well as the president's physical. >> reporter: exactly significant. the president making his first trip to one of hess own branded properties in more than 75 days since he was in mar-a-lago before the pane was deemed a national emergency. he's trying to send a message that the country is back open for business. as he and deborah birx tried to explain yesterday if they wanted

to get on the this weekend, all of that is acceptable if done from a social distance. they haven't -- you may remember where white house officials said the president was doing that part of the doctor examination, but he's never concluded -- that he was taking hydroxychloroquine, the andy- anti-malarial drug, but the physician is not reviolation why the physical has not been complete. other years they've been done in jan wore or february, here we are in may, and we don't have the results from the president or the white house yet.

>> they ordered the houses of worship -- and he's saying they should reopen immediately. >> the president there announcing he deemed houses of worship essential, signaling to churches and synagogues, they could open this weekend. we should point out theres no legal authority for him to do that. we've seen this push and pull between the states and the president for months, but most significantly the cdc put out their own guidelines saying these are voluntary and it's up to the governors to decide how to do it best. the biggest consideration is to see whether they can be held outdoors, but take a listen to what dr. birx had to say about the potential risk and what she hopes people will do and stay home if they're not feeling well. here she is. >> there's a lot of healthy

people out there with covid that look healthy. >> reporter: places of worship, having them all reopen. what guidelines and encouragement do you have for pastors as they prepare to reopen? >> there's a way for us to work together, to have social distancing and safety for people so that we decrease the amount of composure that thin would have to an asymptomatic. i say that way, because i know all of you, and all of americans, if any didn't feel well, they wouldn't go to church that day. >> reporter: that is the big question and the risk what could that mean for a second spike. that's the concern, of course, and we should know that dr. birx did not specifically tell people to go. she said she wanted them to following their own guidelines. it's unclear if different states with issue guidelines to say,

this is how many people they will allow, but one thing they may do is having outdoor services as an option. >> we have seen that for sure in the past. let's get to the search for solutions, biotech company moderna announced some initial results this week. dr. anthony fauci said he is cautiously optimistic. he's calling it promising. >> having look at the data myself, it is promising that in the phase one study, the first step towards the development of a vaccine through its multiple phases, the vaccine induced what we call neutralizing antibodies, as opposed to just binding antibodi antibodies. those are antiboz bodies that can block the virus.

joining me now dr. natalie azar, and dr. kavita patel. ladies, thank you so much for being here. dr. azar, you first. your reactions to those comments, are you ago optimistic? >> you know, alex, i think the interpretation of this from fauci and other experts is they are cautiously optimistic. always remember that vaccine development is simpler in principle, much more complex in practice. yes, it's true that the vaccine did elicit neutralizing antibozzies, but that's just one factor. in addition to that, you want to see the generation of something called t-cells which it cully destroy or get rid of infected cells. you want to see genetic stability. will there be changes in the

spike protein over time that could render the vaccine less effective? as they do move into phase two ready readily and then they are talking about phase three, which would also include a placebo group in july. pending the results of that, they can go to approval and licensing in the fall. we're still a long way from having a vaccine widespread, in my opinion. >> moderna did not offer a level of data that would suffice answering those things, dr. azar. where does that leave you? >> right, we only have neutralizing data on 8 of the 45, so everyone is anxious to hearing the rest of that story.

they does and were able to demonstrate that the vaccine inhibited viral replication in mice, which they also did want to satisfy. i don't think you have to state what happens in mike isn't the same as what happens in humans, but they have enough to move into phase two, which they're expecting to do very soon. >> dr. fauci is cautiously optimistic about a vaccine available at the end of the year. what do you think? do you have concerns about the pace at which this vaccine is being developed? >> i think that everybody would agree we want something as soon as possible. i think it has to be tempered with cutting corners around any safety concerns. certainly the company doesn't want to do that, about you if you think about all the issues and just the data that's been released was really in a limited age group, so we want to understand what the effects could be in elderly and in children, so for those reasons,

alex, i would say that, you know, for my own kind of mental calculation, fall, wind would be really tough. to be honest, this one company would not, you know, it's entirely possible that this one company might not have the solution and might not have enough doses for the entire world. what gives me reassurance is we have multiple companies and universities collaborating that's why i think it's more likely to see something scalable in 2021. >> what do you think about the trial coming out of oxford university? that one shows promise as well. with regard to the beginning of any kind of vaccine, isn't doubt par for the course? is that's the norm, right? >> sure. oxford, for example, has some very promising early data. all of these efforts would kind of multiple shots on goal and different platforms to try to

find out how to attack this virus. oxford -- there are others just as promising, alex. so these things in sum will give me hope, but you're right, it is part for the course. just as an overall statement, andy viral vacci antiviral trials are tricky. think about even just the influenza vaccine, that we have gotten pretty good, but still see some trips. so vaccines are tough, which is why i also emphasize we need to deep doing the studies on treatments, trying to understand treatments for mild covid, for severe covid. we're making pretty good progress on that front as well. >> well, that is good news from both of you. thank you so much for your insights, as always. the battle over masks across this country. what is fueling the outrage? s f?

firefighters in san francisco spent the morning battling a huge fire at legendary fishermen's wharf. they were battling to protect a historic ship. no words on any injuries or a cause. let's turn to the new jersey beaches, where they are opening with restrictions. our colleague is at the jersey shore, so what are the expectations there? and wait a minute, have the skies cleared up from the rain you got this morning? >> reporter: yeah, alex. there's a reason i'm not a certified meteorologist. the sun decided to come out, and so did the krouse. there is tons of people here.

from my vantage point, people are maintaining a good 10 to 20-foot distance. as we get further back, it's harder to tell. they have enacted volunteers to patrol the beaches and promise gnat to make sure people -- and so one of the things, this is opening weekend starting off the summer. officials are making sure they ease back into everything and don't cause another spike in a relatively low case count here in southern new jersey. when i spoke to one of the county officials yesterday, he's been communicating with the governor, he's been on the task force to make sure crowds don't get too big. they've limited hotels and motels. they could open until next week. take a listen to what he told me about that concern. >> are you worried about the crowds coming from these metro areas that have been hot spots

for the virus? >> i am, and of course we welcome everyone to the jersey shore, 127 miles of new jersey shore. this is normally where we tell inch to come, and we're trying to pack as many people as we can. but the motels being closed is we're inviting then, but please stay away this weekend. better days are coming. we don't know what happened in naples, florida, where we opened one day and the next they had to be closed. >> reporter: so while there's major crowds, this is people who have homes already here, or are doing a day trip. they're hoping by keeping the motels and hotels closed, the other out-of-staters won't come until later in the summer. that's kind of their practice are unthis weekend. they're flying planes right now with seen in the sky that show

and remind folks to keep a sorb distance. all of this trying to spike cases as the hospitals can't thattic on the caseload. >> yeah, usually the planes are flying banners forwear coppertone there. you need to put in on your forehead. an impassioned plea. we'll talk about the politics of face coverings, next. politics f face coverings, next

now the latest facts on the coronavirus pandemic. hertz is the latest business to file for bankruptcy protection because of the pandemic. the more than century-old company says it plans to stay in business and use the filing to restructure. hertz has been hit hard especially by the worldwide air travel restrictions.

macy's will reopen 80 stores around the country with new cleaning and social distancing parol coals, projecting a first quarter loss of more than a billion after closing store on march 18th. in florida, universal orlando resort owned by the parent company of nbc, is set to reopen to visitors on june 5th. visitors and workers will have their temperatures check. they will also limit capacity to promote social distancing. and more than 300 deputies will be deployed on the beaches this weekend to make sure they're not too crowded. deputies will report status updates to a mobile command center every 30 minutes. that information will be displayed for the public online in real time. officials say they want to help people practice social distancing. >> everybody should know we're

going to make everyone single effort to redirect them to the open spaces. we ask them to work with us and move to the open sand area. let's go to the political divide over the choice to wear a face mask, and an emotional plea from a republican governor. this is the first public photo of president trump wearing a mask after months of not wearing one. it was during a private tour, but they took it off before the public part of that tour. >> reporter: can you take us through your thought process of why you decided not to wear. >> well, i wore one in this back area, but i didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it. i did put a fans on there. >> oh, well, the mask choice has become a flash point with people around the country showing up for group protests without masks, causing tensions to flare and leading to this plea from the north dakota governor.

>> if someone is wearing a mask, they're not doing it to represent what political party they have. they may be wearing one who has a 5-year-old child going there cancer treatments. they may have vulnerable adults in their lives who are currently have covid and they're fighting. if somebody wants to wear a mask, there should be no shaming. you should look at them and say because for them, there's additional risk in their life. joining me now betsy woodrough swann, and eddy glough. your interpretation of what's going on here. the president said, i didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it, referencing his wearing a mask, and to those who will

criticize -- and this applies to everybody, what should be wearing a t-shirt that says "i don't care about you." >> well, look, with regard to president trump, i think there's not only his concern about how he's perceived, but politics of masculinity, he wants to be seen as strong, and the mask makes him appear weak. in terms of the other part of it, i think what we're seeing is a kind of caricature of a libertarian politics, where a certain notion of liberty has the notion of i'm free to do whatever i want, though matter what harm it may do to others. wearing a mask has everything to do with preventing others from getting six in case you're asymptomatic, so in some ways we're seeing the ugly side of the discourse on freedom that's had the country by its throat for a long time. >> but the north dakota

republican governor, he got so choked up about people suffering from cancer treatments, people trying to get over difficulty with covid, wearing a mask for those people. >> decency ought not to have any part of party affiliation, but when i walk around thinking you cannot have a mask on, because you are in some ways embracing an idea of freedom and dismissing and shaming others who are protecting loved ones, it shows a callous heart. so i see what the north dakota governor is doing. >> for sure. >> betsie, i'm curious what is driving all of this? is it politics? is it a lack of proper information? or to eddie's point, individual independence? are people just saying, look, i'm making a choice for me.

>> i think it's multiple reasons. first, no question that facebook an incubated tons of misinformation. the company says they're doing the best to take it down, but at least one major radio has gone viral on that platform and really spreading dangerous misinformation. we all know what happens on social media affects what happens in the real world. on top of that, though, the president is making a political calculation when it comes to the way he talks about the dangers of coronavirus versus the dangers to the economy. even though most polls show that a significant majority of americans are concerned about rapidly reopening the economy, about trying to return to the pre-covid normal in this country, the president has very much pushed for these changes and these openings to happen. what he and his team are betting

is americans will feel safer in november than they do now. he's trying to skate to where the hockey puck is, if you will, and hoping people's minds will change. that's a huge risk, a huge bet. ironically opening the country too quickly, according to most epidemiologists could actually make things more dangerous in november, not less. >> i was going to say more dangerous as we get closer to the election, absolutely. the viral video you mentioned having been viewed a million times, is that among the things that has helped develop the concept of smask shaming. . >> it's hard to say if there's any one single factor. i think there's no question when you have the contact like the now removed plandemic video that made this dangerous argument in

a way that had emotional resonance, of course that's going to influence the way people think about public health measures. when you president doesn't wear a mask, it sends a signal that masks aren't necessarily required, even in indoor, unventilated fairly close quarters. so when people who are skeptical about the dangers of this pandemic see someone wearing a mask, even though people are wearing masks because they want to be safe, not because they want to make a political point, when people are in that skeptical camp see that, many of them clearly take it as a political statement. they take it as a reminder we are living in dangerous times, that this pandemic is real, and that it is putting people at great risk. >> eddie, real quickly to you, doesn't common sense suggest that if people really want to reopen this country that wearing

a mask will help them achieve just that? >> absolutely. the majority of americans actually agree with you, alex. it's just a small number of folks clamoring about freedom putting everybody in jeopardy in some ways. we just need to be clear. dr. fauci told us if we did everything right, there would be 100 to 240,000 dead. we're already inching close to 100,000 people we love, who we care about, who are no longer here. well people running around playing with people peace lives. we need not let this small minority hold the country by its throat. we need to do what is right. thank you both so much. joe biden regrets his remark. i'll talk with congresswoman be that remark. congresswoman be that remark.

it's a long way to november, we have more questions. >> if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or trump, then you ain't black. >> it doesn't have to do with trump. it's that i want something for my community. >> joe biden is expressing regret for those comments. he walked back the remark just hours later on a call with black business leaders. >> the last thing i want to do, and i shouldn't have been such a wise guy. i shouldn't have been so cavalier in responding to what i thought was -- anyway, it was -- i don't take it for granted at all, and no one, no one should have to vote for any party based on their ragce, their religion, their background. >> terry sewell, welcome to the

program what's your reaction to biden's comment? >> clearly it was a mistake. it was a mistake that he, you know, made, he apologized for immediately, you know. it's a clear carats between this president we currently have. in the sene that true leadership is you admit that. i go on and on about the gaffs he's made, but he should have been clearer in.

are you worried that he might lose some support? >> no. just like he doesn't win support by making one statement. he hopefully won't lose support. i think it's his history. over four decades of working with, alongside and for all americans. he doesn't take any vote for granted, and he shouldn't i think the humility of admitting that is good. i think his message of reuniting this country i want to push back

on the narrative. i did so along with a 20 years old mayor, a 30-some mayor of the city of birmingham, both african-americans who also supported vice president biden. i truly believe that there is a big contrast that needs to be made in the type of leadership that we would get from a president biden. it would be one that would be all inclusive, and would be one that would reflect 40 decades in trying to rebuild our -- he actually led the recovery act, the national recovery when he first got in, eight years of working alongside president obama doesn't hurt.

>> i'm really worried. i'm worried desperately about what's going on in alabama we reopen full throttle and we're seeing more and more lives lost. this kind of persistence and resilience that a president biden would be all over. >> i did want to stay with joe biden, and we know your colleague val demings said she

was being -- >> i am so proud we have such a deep bench whether it comes to female leadership. i do truth that joe biden having been the vice president. having gone through the vetting process, he'll choose a candy who will be right for him and this country. i am very, very proud of all of my fellow sisters in the democratic party. i think there's so many great choices to be made. i truly believe joe biden will chose a vice president candidate that we can all get behind. >> do you have a favorite? >> no. listen, i think that -- i think the choice is his. i am just so proud, like i said, of the very deep bench we have in the democratic party. i am -- i think it's one that is

well earned and well deserved. so i think that any choice he makes will be a good choice. >> i have to say deep bench is what i've heard echoed in those being considered. let's talk about alabama. all reopened yesterday, but this comes statistically as covid cases in alabama are on the rise, especially looking at montgomery county. what do you think? where do you stand on the timing of reopening? are you worried it might be a bit too soon? >> i am very worried it was a bit too soon in the state of alabama. we have seen more than 4,300 cases, new additional cases that have occurred.

>> my individual to my constituents, and all of alabama, just because we can reopen doesn't mean we are not safer at home. to the stephen we can remain sheltered in place and we should go in public wearing or masks, practices social distancing, including going back to our churches. terry sewell, thank you for your time. good to see you. meantime, been restaurants may be opening, bur yew dining experience may be radically different. the question is, for how long? e different. the question is, for how long? [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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restarred, but with new cdc guidelines and strict social distancing orders, the dining experience will look very different. joining me now to discuss the impact this could have, four-time james beard award-winning chef and host of msnbc's "what's eating america?" andrew zimmern. let's check out this axios article, that predicts patrons will have to wait in long lines to get a table, and then they may have limited time to eat, because the restaurants are trying to turn over customers as quickly as they can. did this bode the end of leisurely dining.

>> i think people should say, why bother? that's why these short-term fixes won't work. everyone is trying to tanker with a $12 trillion industry, 15 if you include all restaurants. we have to have a comprehensive plan that includes federal backstopping, so they can rejigger their physical environment, physical space we have to wait for therapeutics, for testing, for more info, how it operates before we start opening our doors. where the axios article misses the point, it doesn't talk about the safety of our employees, and it also misses the point we sort of force physical distancing in the back of the house.

we have to rejigger the kitchens. i think this either/or thinking is hobble. people are saying we have to open of the businesses. we can't have all these people absent from work. we have to reorganize the economy, especially at the local and community levels. that's true. we also have a raging virus that is growing in many states we know by reopening people are getting sick and dying. the third op is pushing forth smart legislation that is, by the way, bipartisan in many cases that allowing for federal backstopping of restaurants so that we can open slowly the right way with a long tail. keep people engaged and eventually, 12 months from now, restore that full dining experience. i'm just picking that number,

because that seems vaccine oriented. i will is ittic with that number. is there a way to gauge how many restaurants are going to survive this pandemic? how many will make it? >> we're in the middle of the grandest social experiment in that area that in my food service lifetime. we are dean with that in real time. james board polls from independent restaurants are -- it's the other reason why we need this federal backstopping. we have an 18-week band-aid for an 18-month problem. the idea is to create a sustainable program that props of a special and unique industry, so that we can all

participate look who this disease is affecting. people are saying, what is wrong with jamming people into bars? what's wrong with opening restaurants? everything looks fine outside meyer door, and they're missing the fact that 100,000 are dead already, and in the best of cases or expert said 150,000 to it 00,000 that if we did it the right way. ask the nurses in queens, right? >> we will do that, and we appreciate you with your insi t insight. i'm loving the quarantine beard, by the way. >> thank you, alex. good to see you. are americans taking a risk by going to a beach?

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good day, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we have lots you news. here are the latest facts in this hour. in los angeles county, officials are aiming to lift lockdowns by july 4th. public health experts say the pandemic has stabilized enough in l.a. to begin economic recovery. businesses must submit proposals by the end of june outlining safety measures and social distancing regulations that they plan to introduce. in south florida, check this out, another fly-over taking place honoring the essential workers. i can never get enough of that, it's so cool. they flew over 34 hospitals as a salute to our wonderful healthcare heroes. a new study shows coronavirus may spread at

epidemic rates ace cross 24 states, specifically those in the south and midwest. a major milestone in china since the first time it began. mainland china reported zero new cases and zero coronavirus deaths on friday. there were, however, two new suspected cases, one imported case in shanghai and one local case. the. there are 1.6 million confirmed cases, more than 96,000 approaching 97,000 have died. this hour we have a team of correspondents covering the reopening of beaches, and also covering the president's activities. to the lady in pink, to texas where officials anticipate massive crowds on galveston

island. what's it like? first of all, how is the weather and how are the crowds? >> reporter: good saturday, alex. it's a beautiful day here with 80 degrees, 90 degrees weather. as you can see, folks are already out here. the umbrella and tents are already populating out there. you also have a lot of folks out here exercise. officials are hoping folks will maintain defendants. the tourism commission is trying to fly a plane saying try to stay six feet apart. most people we spoke to are trying to do that. they're not wearing a ton of masks, but i actually spoke with them about what they're trying to do to make space. >> the water is very nice. people are still the same. a bit of distancing here and there are, but not felt at all.

nothing compared to the california coast. >> it is a concern. i mean, i use the hand sanitizer, but on the here it's kind of hard to exercise with it. as you can probably see there's not a lot of people wearing masks. >> we're social distancing, and we just needed a change of scenery. >> reporter: as you heard, folks from all over the place trying to get that change of scenery. while the beaches are open to an limited am of folks, the restaurants can only operate at 50%. they are already starting to fill up. local officials have blocked off parking and a whole part of this side street to allow a bit of crowd control. the restaurant owner is saying one to three-hour waits. most people don't mind waiting while inside, but the owner can't control what they do outside while they're waiting.

they're hoping by having some of these streets blocked off folks can maintain that distance, enjoying the beach and the retail and restaurants that are here. >> priscilla thompson, thank you so much. let's go from the gulf cost to the west coast as we econoch out ventura beach county. people seem to be out and about certainly. let's go to steve patterson, also out and about on that pier for us. steve, welcome to you. first are the beaches open there? first of all like at slight breeze, sum beaming down on you. that in effect is a slight worry, this is the first truly

big test for california, as it opens back up. some of the restrictions that that were locking these communities down were eased a bit. the all while, you know, it's a holidays weekend, and you have all this goods going on. ventura is moving more deeply into phase two, mean in-room dining is open. some retail spaces are open. you can go inside some of these places as well. all of this is happening we see people out enjoying the beach all morning long. the everybody is respecting the social distance, but i've got to say, i think i'm the only person wearing a face mask the entire morning.

we're talking about 40 out of 58 counties moving more deeply into this phased reopening, really the first lifts we have seen. a lot of the cases concentrated in l.a. county allowing for some other -- and it's not so bad where they are. i want to talk about churches. president trump asking, demanding governors to open religious services. he said he accident think there's -- he's doing all he can to lift those restrictions, and working on a plan. listen to this. we look forward to churches reopening in a safe and responsible manner. we have guidelines that we

anticipated completing on mo monday, and we're on track to do just that. we take the issue very, very seriously and to hard. we have been very aggressive in trying to put together guidelines that will do justice to people's health and their fundamental need and desire to practice their faith. >> we should expect to hear more in the coming days. a lot of people just enjoying the weather for in many cases the first time they're able to leave their home. it is so beautiful, but we have to kind of wait and see, will people respect the social distancing required to keep this going. back to you. >> what i would not give to stand shoulder to shoulder with you right now. oh, yes, he has the money

position today. for sure, my friend. thank you so much. to the east coast his briefing happened about an hour ago , you brought out the umbrella this time. is it really that bad? my goodness. what about states reopening? >> reporter: you know, it comes in waves, awill exnow we're bringing you -- it was absolutely pouring just moments ago. i guess i'm lucky for that. governor cuomo talked about more areas of the state being able to reopen today now the manhattan region appears to be the only one still closed. take a listen to what he said

about all of that. >> in the mid-hudson area, we met the criteria for the decline in number of deaths. that was the issue that we were having with that region. the only open issue is we have to train tracers, if we can get them trained over memorial day weekend, we with reopen on tuesday. we also have to get the tracing online, but at this rate we could open by wednesday. >> all right. that will be the challenge for parts of the state. the challenge here in new york city will be keeping people off the beaching. nobody out on the boardwalk, though you can see some lights and sirens in the distance, some

police activity just keeping everything -- monitoring people are keeping uprate when it comes to social distancing. not a problem today, but it could be a problem tomorrow or sunday. there is signs reminding everybody in this giant vast of beach area. you have to jeeps your distance. this is something that will permeate over into state beaches as well. they're at 50% capacity. the worries they'll try to go to state beaches, and local laters are saying or state beaches are prioritized for the residence who live in that area, alex. >> that sign is a good one. thank you so much. meantime, the president earlier today was seen leaving the white house heading to one of his private golf clubs for the first

time in months. monica alba has more on that as well as new reporting on the president's physical exam and the delay in that. so what do you know? >> exactly, alex. for the first time in 75 days, the president is hitting the links as one of his trump-named golf clubs in sterling, virginia. it's notable, because he skipped a lot of that during the past few months. as he and dr. deborah birx try to project optimism, telling americans they can go outside if they do it safely, that seems to be what he's doing now, so is that issue of the annual figure, the president tradition dale every year undergoes an examination and releases the results to the public.

we have so many questions about that, because he started his physical last november, at least that's what official said. there's so many questions about the president's decision to takes hydroxychloroquine, which he says he took in consultation with his own white house figures. the president was the one who first suggested it, and the doctor okayed it. nomarally the physical takes place in january or february, but here we are almost at the end of may. the white house is declining to explain that notable delay, alex. >> let's got to the president calling for the houses of worship to open. >> california is a perfect example. the president came out and said he would override governors if

they did not deem houses of worship open this weekend. the president didn't cite any authority to do that, because he doesn't have it. when pressed, the without press secretary couldn't explain how the president could go around and override the governors. it is up to the states, but take a listen to what the president said was his own justification for why these houses of worship should be open. some governors have left out churches and other houses of worship. it's not right. so i'm correcting this injustice in calling houses of worship essential. >> reporter: we should know the president came out and made that announcement before his own cdc had issued the updated guidelines. that's because we're told they went back and forth all week about what the guidance was going to look like.

notably, it is voluntary for the states and how they apply it. most importantly they recommended if you are going to gather at one of these services, you wear a face covering, ideally it be outdoors and be careful to not come together in large or significant numbers. >> i remember our it colleague reporting from a drive-in church. it was actually pretty cool. joining me now is ohio democratic congressman tim ryan. welcome to you. what's the "o" for? just kidding. tuesday you have recreational businesses, mini golf, batting cages, bowling allies, all will open up. how for you is the ohio opening going? is it going smoothly? too fast? too slow? what do you think?

>> i think it's about on par. the key will be, alex, how do we respond to the data that comes in probably in the next week. the we saw a spike in hospital visits two weeks after easter weekend when people weren't observing the distancing rules quite as ridge i hgidly as they have. we're seeing probably in the next week or so what it looks like. if it looks like things are getting a bit out of control, we may have to pull it back a bit. if it looks like it's okay, we can slowly keep going, but i think the keep here is moderating as we go. it's not black or white, it's not open or closed, because we do have to get the economy back up and running, but we need to do it in a thoughtful way. i think or governor dewine is doing a good job.

what are your constituents telling you? >> i think everybody is nervous. i'm nervous. my mom is 77, with heart conditions. she hasn't been out and about, so we're all concerned about those we love and care about, but we're also anxious to get out. it's 75 degrees today. we want to go out and play, but we've got to be very, very careful. all of these communities have great restaurant, they're family owned. that's how we have built or culture. we want to get back to that, but this is once in a lifetime and we have to make sacrifices and be smart. >> last week how democrats passed the relief bill. before that you gave quite a speech. you were criticizing your republican colleagues, let's take a listen. >> 36 million people unemployed, 40% of families who have a worker that makes $40,000 a year

or less, lost their job last month. 4 million people didn't pay their rent, and the republican party is saying we don't have any money to help you. are you kidding me? where do you guys live? food lines around the blocks at our food banks in the united states of america. one in five kids are going hungry. your party can't even get food to them. this isn't a wish list. if it's a wish list, it's for the working class people. >> i've got to tell you, that was passion with a capital "p." did that message get through to you to any of your republican colleagues? >> no, not -- maybe one. i think peter king voted for it. it doesn't seem like it moved republicans in the senate at all, either. they want to continue to hit the pause button. it's so frustrating to me, alex. i've been in congress 18 years.

i represent a blue collar part of the country. most of the country has been falling behind the last 30 years. if you just want one contrast, in the same couple of months that we had 40 million people filed for unemployment, in one of those months we had the greatest expansion of the stock market since the great depression. you want to talk about the disconnect between economic royalty and the rest of us, and the president comes in and says i want to make sure i can eat steaks and people at mar-a-lago can eat steaks, the rest of us who eat hamburgers, we have left on our own. 10% of people last month couldn't pay their rent. if you play this out and it goes from 4 million to 8 million to 16 million people get backed up two, three months on their rent,

the average person is never, ever, the rest of their lives, they're never going to be able to climb out of that hole. we have an obligation to help them be secure. they didn't to anything wrong, and meanwhile, the stock market is going gangbusters. what is wrong with this picture? we have a lot of work to do. i hope republicans will recognize they are on the wrong side, they are losing the crowd right now. i'm trying to give them advice. i go on other networks to try to give very is where i think they are listening. the they are losing the crowd. the economic ground is shifting. they can try to bring up churches, immigrants, and all this other stuff. this is going to be about economics and they're losing right now. >> geffen the fact you went through the rigors of running for president in this presidential campaign this season, i'm curious your thoughts on the veep stakes, and where you come down on what you

think needs to be the top criteria or two, or do you think there's a person or two you think could benefit joe biden and secure a win? >> you know, i think they're all good. i think we'll need a couple things. one, chemistry. i've been doing this long enough. i have watched presidents with vp candidates and nominees. there's got to be a good chemistry. you have to feel like you're a team, because that's going to come off, people are going to see happy warriors, people that are having joy in the process. that's going to be critical. i think the vp pick will be very important for joe biden in that regard. then a lot of energy. i mean, we've got to have somebody who can go after donald trump on these economic issues, on the level of corruption that's happening in this government, on his denial of helping working-class people across the board, whether it's overtime, pensions, those

bread-and-butter economic issues. where is the plan to rebuild the middle class? where is the plan to close the digital divide? in the middle with of a global pandemic, donald trump is telling people you can't get on the healthcare exchange, okay? is you want to talk about someone who is on the wrong side of the average person is, so the vp nominee has got to be somebody that can pound the administration on these key economic issues. the one issue, too, i think will be key is the issue of china. a lot of people where i come from voted for donald trump, because they thought she was going to be tough on china and protect us from china, whether it was from public health or economic issues, and he has failed miserably. farmers are crushed because of chinese trade deal. our economy is crushed now because of the president's lack of ability to actually deal with china and keep the virus in china. in fact, he sent 18 billion tons

of ppe to china on february 7th, months after we knew this was going to be a huge problem. the vp candidate and joe biden, you need to pound trump on this. this is a loser for him. we need to go after him, and the vp nominee i think has to be a part of that. >> by the way, we got a cam fro from a mini tim ryan, so you tell him we saw him and he's adorable. setting president trump straight, the target of his angry tweet about mail-in voting joins me next. tweet about mail-g joins me next. you need only the freshest milk and cream. that one! and the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. of all the places you're looking forward to where will you go first? ♪

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this week the president tweeted harsh criticism of michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson, incorrectly stating she mailed out more than 7 million absentee ballot, calling her rogue and threatening to pull funding from

michigan. she was quick to correct the president, she sent applications for absentee ballots. joining mess is secretary benson. thank you for clarifying that. i'm curious of your initial reaction to that tweet? were you surprised? horrified? that he called you rogue, and then threatened funding? >> first, i noticed it was incorrect. we didn't mail ballots. we mailed applications, as you mentioned. then, of course, he tweeted again several hours later correcting that, so we got through to him on that point. still didn't get my name, but he did incorrectly note we somehow didn't have the authority to do what is essential to my job as chief election officer here for the state.

it was an neck in efforts to misinformed the public about their rights to vote. i will stand up and fight on tho those. >> when and why did you begin mailing out the applications? how did the president turned that into unauthorized, i legal ballot mailing? was that just a mistake on his part, or do you think there was something more behind it? >> i think it was an effort to -- michigan is a critical state for the presidential election. we all know that, but more importantly we had facts and data we were going on, nose that citizens have a right to vote in michigan, this is a great time of uncertainty, we wanted to give our citizens certainty that our elections will happen, and they have a right to vote by mail. and we were recognizing several

groups were planning to send the application as well, and i wanted to make sure every registered voter got this application, so there's an equality being informed and opportunity to exercise this right. >> makes sense. this appears to be divided pretty much down partisan line. is there a legitimate, a proven reason to be concerned, like how often, how likely is fraudulent activity that the president talks about? >> interestingly, voters on bo sides of the spectrum enjoy and take advantage of the right to vote by mail. it's embraced by folks on both sides of the aisle many states have been allowing their citizens to vote by decade. the actual data of any broke prity is infinitesimal, and when

it does happen, we catch it. most citizens have to sign the ballot, that is matched with their voter registration form. when the ballot is returned by mail, they must also sign the ballot on the outside, matched to the signature we have on file. we have multiple ability to protect the sanctity of the process and confirm only those eligible to vote can. secretary, carry on, as i know you will. thank you for your time. new guidance from the cdc. why doctors are saying contaminated surfaces might not be as much of a threat as they once thought. not be as much of a threat as they once thought

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their bottom line. all coming your way at 2:00 p.m. eastern here. let's go to the latest facts. alabama has recorded the biggest weekly jump in coronavirus cases, adding more than it,000 in just this last week. the cases are largely in five of the most pop ulouse counties. the death toll over the last week is down, though, congresswoman terry sewell was with me the last hour, and she said she's concerned the state has opened too soon. >> i'm very concerned we don't have enough testing and we have having begun contact tracing. my advice is just because we can reopen doesn't mean we're not safer at home. governor cuomo announced the number of hospitalizations and deaths are down.

rent-a-car company hertzes has filed for bankruptcy. >> thee hit very hard. . they are set to reopen to visitors on june 5th. there will also be limited capacity. official say they are worked about the potential influx of beach-goers. nbc's mara berry is at the sea isle city. still sunny, i see. >> reporter: still sunny. people are gathering around.

it's important to know that the new jersey governor questioned allowed 25 people gathering outside for memorial day specifically, but this crowd should only be people who have homes at the jersey shore or coming in for day trips. the short-term rentals, hotels, that kind of thing are still closed until jut 1st. take a listen. . don't go to the beach. weaver not recommending people go to the beach.

this is not the time to do that. when i asked the pennsylvania governor for his guidance. 3/4 all working together to establish a safe reopening. definitely you stand out. but it may still be possible. dr. torres, you first here.

does this change anything for you? that new message is those things you touch, it's probably not going to get that way. it can still happen. if you any about it, there's a lot of steps to have to go through. you still want to do that.

if you skip it every now and then, you probably will still be okay. we are still learn new things about it every day. public health authorities are doing everything they can, but there's a situation where the public is confused right now what we need -- our plan -- that require officials -- recommendation for businesses, looking forward into the summer and the fall when a second wave

may come. dr. torres, i'm going to ask you my director to put up a full screen. a lot of things that they're recommending right now. all those things on that list, how realistic is that approach? does it encompass everybody we need to be considering? >> it is realistic. part of that has to do with the contact tracing. they shouldn't have as many employees there as he normally do. a lot of masks have equipment regularly be it clients or the staff itself, but the one thing that's buried in there. is the -- in that water system, so they go through steps. just all these concern things.

it's a step-wise fashion. they need to make sure they do this to protect themselves, their clients and protect their communities. >> doctor, we've had a bit of trouble with your audio, so i will lack forward to seeing you again, and also dr. torres. thank you. joe biden walks back a comments. has it caused lasting damage to his campaign? it caused lasting his campaign onal auto premiums. learn more at libertymutual.com/covid-19. [ piano playing ] to ewhether you'reting these uncaring for your. family at home or those at work, principal is by your side. we're working hard to answer your questions. like helping you understand what the recently passed economic package can mean for you. we're more than a financial company.

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something for my community. >> the last thing i want to do, and i shouldn't have been such a wise guy. i shouldn't have been so cavalier in responding to what i thought -- anyway, i don't take it for granted at all. no one, no one should have to vote for any party paced on their race or religion or background. joining mess notice zerlina maxwell, and msnbc political analyst elise jordan, a contributor to "time," and former aide to the george w. bush white house and the state departments. zellina, your gut reaction was what? >> oh, i cringed. i knew it was going to be something that the campaign was going to need to apologize for and clean up, because, you know, there are different types of

ga gaffs, but sometimes they can have a lasting impact and damage if they reinforce a negative thing that people already think about you. it reminds me of an inns dent in 2016, where hillary clinton wentz on the same morning show and made an offhand reference to something she always has in her bag. she said hot dogs, a reference to beyonce's song. at the time he actually said in the moment, people will think you're pandering, and very dryly said, is it working? people who know hillary know that's her sense of humor, but it did not land well in the constituencies that already had a negative view that she somehow was pandering and isn't sincere. so i think the same is true in

this moment. i think that joe biden really needs to sit down and listen to the black women he has hired. they are very smart. they understand how this generation needs to be messaged too. they ver different, very diverse. we're going through a generational shift. joe biden could be that transitional figure that could let us to the next generation, but he has to listen to our concerns and provide substantive policy plans. >> i have to agree. let's tea a listen to what reverend al sharpton had to say. >> going against the man they call african nation as s-hole countries, who rose in his

political career saying barack obama wasn't born in the united states. so it's not mar in terhard in tf who he's running against. >> so do you agree with that? >> i absolutely agree. it's similar to what i was saying. he needs to sit down and listen to our concerns. there really is a difference in talking to black voters who are my parents' age and black voters. we talked about issues in a different way and we frankly lean into the idea that identity politics are the politics that, one, we've always been doing. we just didn't put the word "white i h identity" in front o that. generations z and millennial are

the most diverse in american history. we're moving to a place where america will have the most diverse electoral, and joe biden needs to united states he'll have to tweak his language in messaging that we can understand. >> elise, for those who though this might be a holidays weekend story, not so much. we know the campaign is seizing on though remark. vice president pence 'ttells breitbart that the comments were offensive and in desperation. what do you think? >> time will tell if this is something that has legs. i tend to think it doesn't. you remember some of biden's other gaffs, notably last year in june when he show about working with segregational senators. that was a controversy. that certainty didn't affect his

momentum when it came down to voting and casting a vote in the primary. it's going to depend on whether they can use in as a weapon against joe biden, but i don't think that they can, given trump's own terms back history, the horrible things, the racist things he's said on so many occasions joe biden immediately apologized and was sincere. >> the president finds himself trailing, biden is leading by 11 points in the latest quinnipiac poll. so the president focusing on this right now, what is it in an effort to do? capitalize and obtain more black votes potentially? or disenfranchise voters and say

i hope they stay home? >> it would be donald trump's dream to suppress the young african-american vote. that could be the margin of victory in five critical states. states like wisconsin, michigan, you've got florida, you've got north carolina. in really important swings states that donald trump needs to win if he's going to keep the white house. those young african-american voters are definitely a sector of the electoral he would love to pick off. >> it sounds like you two are on the same page today. thank you, ladies, so much. well, something that has never happened before. it is going to happen on msnbc tonight. singer jordan sparks will give us an inside look, next. we show you an american hero who lost his battle with the coronavirus.

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unicef won't stop, it's a first look into the global pandemic response. it will begin with an introduction from lawrence o'donnell and have musical performances from some of the biggest stars, including jordan sparks. jordan is joining us to discuss tonight's event. you look like you're ready to go already. so pretty this far in advance. let's talk about tonight. what is this all about and what made you want to be a part of it? >> so anything i can be of assistance and help with whatever we're going through, i want to be a part of. and when they approached me, when unicef approached me to be a part of this beautiful campaign i was like, yes, i would love to, tell me what i need to do, how can i help. and it's incredible because unicef has had a decade long tradition of bringing artists to come together for a global cause and to come together to try and figure things out. but especially for the children

around the world. and we know that this virus isn't just hindered by borders and so if we can find a solution somewhere in one single place, we can find a solution everywhere. and to be a part of this with the other artists to just bring our eyes on the kids and if we can change their health, we can change the future. you know what i mean? >> absolutely. >> so it's amazing to be a part of this and i can't believe that i get to be a part of a lineup with cher and sting and rod stewart. it's amazing and i think everybody is really going to love the performances that they see and as well as seeing all the amazing workers that have been helping and how unicef is helping others and families across the globe. >> absolutely. it's a beautiful effort and it's wonderful that you're part of it. i'm sure that cher and rod stewart are saying we get to sing with jordan sparks. how else can people help support the cause? >> you can go to unicef's

instagram pages, on their website, you can follow the hashtag unicef won't stop and that will show a bunch of other information as well. but basically just tune in and go -- i'm sorry, go find on their website -- sorry, my brain is flustered this morning. go to their website and you can see how you can help in your community. >> okay, that is super important. i'm sure a lot of people will be doing it. so can't wait to see your performance. i'm probably going to have to take a nap because i was up really early myself. but i will be up at 10:00 to watch this. tell me about your performance and other music that you're working on right now. >> i'm really excited for this performance actually. i've always loved a big choir sound and it sounds so universal and it always reminds me of being together. so i'm singing "higher love" the steve winwood song and i'm

excited to do it. and musicality and sons of mar are joining me and it's a beautiful song and i think morgan freeman will be making an appearance. i just remembered, it's unicef won't stop is where they can go for more information. >> that's super important. we'll look forward to that big performance tonight. how about you, jordan? are you working on something else, new music, new recordings? >> i am actually. i have a new single dropping this coming friday on the 29th. it's called "unknown" and i'm really excited about it, actually, because i recorded this song before this became so huge and the stay-at-home orders and all of the craziness that we've been going through right now. but it's really poignant and it really works and is relevant for what's happening right now. it's been a minute since i've released my own solo music so i'm excited for people to hear

it. >> six days and counting. we'll look forward to it on friday. thank you so much. continued success to you and great that you're a part of this big event tonight. for all of you, we've got jordan, you can watch her and a number of other stars on unicef won't stop and my colleague, lawrence lawrence o'donnell will be kicking things off at 10:00. that's a wrap for me. my colleague, alicia menendez is next and we'll tell you why restaurants want us to stop using those delivery apps.

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good afternoon, i'm alicia menendez. i hope you are enjoying the start of your holiday weekend. millions of americans are using the holiday to get out of the house for the first time in weeks. beaches and parks are opening with some restrictions but there are a lot of questions about how the restrictions will be enforced. president trump hopes americans will get back to church this sunday. he ordered all houses of worship open, but it's still unclear if he has the authority to do so. plus, joe biden is backtracking from some controversial comments he made about black voters. we'll talk about the former vp's relationship with minority communities and what more he can be doing to bring them onboard. and the fbi is investigating the investigators. we'll explain why the bureau is looking into how it handled the michael flynn case. we begin