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america's death toll is approaching 100,000. we've confirmed more than 1.6 million coronavirus cases. some religious leaders argue keeping their houses of worship closed violates the first amendment. tomorrow, many catholic churches will celebrate ascension sunday. president trump declared houses of worship essential. >> at my direction, the centers for disease control and prevention is issuing guidance for communities of faith. >> i'm identifying houses of worship, churches, synagogues, and mosques as essential places that provide essential services. some governors have deemed the liquor stores and abortion clinics as essential but have left out churches and other houses of worship.

>> is the president correct. the usa patriot act defines critical infrastructure, things that are necessary to our security, economy, public health or public safety. homeland security has lengthy guide blirns with a long list of these kinds of workers. relirjous leaders are not on that list. instead, it includes sectors like food and agriculture, first responders, government, banking and housing. and the federal guidelines state clearly they are just that, they're guidelines, states can change the list to suit their needs or make their own list. president trump does not have the power to treat houses of worship as essential. he is free to suggest it. in florida, religious worship is considered a financial service.

that same revision allows the nba to consider resuming play in florida. the revised list also included mental health, substance abuse and domestic violence counselors and the federal list does not include journalists. florida's list does. plenty to discuss with our first two guests tonight. the senior pastor of first corin corincor corinthians church in new york. pastor, i'd like to start with you, how is your congregation handling this time? would be declared essential here in new york help you in anyway. >> no, i don't think it would really help. where we are in harlem, we've seen a high number of people who

have been infected with the coronavirus, we all know nationally, it's taken a great toll on communities of color, and particularly african-american and latino communities. although i heard what the president said and i have to say i'm not surprised, because i think many of us have grown accustomed to the daily assaults on sanity from our president. we have a responsibility to deem the sanctity of human life as essential too. for me as a pastor, it's been impacted by covid-19, i have a responsibility to take care and tend to the care and concern of our congregation. i think we're going to continue to do what we've been doing, and that is to be mindful and also to be mindful of the fact that there are many people in our community that have suffered and still suffering, we cannot be anxious to get back to the house of worship. at the end of the day, worship is not about a building, it's about who we are as a community. that still takes place even when the building is closed, the

church is still open. >> professor rosen, president trump had a message for governors who don't cooperate. here's what he said. >> the governors need to do the right thing and allow these very important essential places of faith to open right now, for this weekend. if they don't do it, i will override the governors. >> now, we've established that he does not have the power to do that, what do you make of this debate, especially from a first amendment perspective? >> well, it's fascinating and very significant. and it's part of a trend of the administration. earlier this month, the department of justice backed a church in virginia that was suing the government after police cited the pastor for allowing church services of more than 10 people. the basic argument is that churches are being treated differently than other nonessential nonretail businesses that are allowed to open. and the general rule is that

churches don't have a right to special treatment, they're allowed to be closed if other similar organizations are, but they have to be treated equally, this now is a new move saying churches should be in that essential category. he doesn't the have any legal authority to do it, and governors are unlikely to be swayed by his announcement, it will be interesting to see whether it affects the many lawsuits that are going on, because now litigants will be able to say that churches should be treated differently than other businesses and some judges may find the president's statement to be legally significant. and in that sense say they are entitled to special religious exemption. >> the cdc has issued guidelines for places of worship. they include providing virtual services, finding other ways to take donations. picking somebody, if it's everybody's job, it's nobody's job.

what is your sense of how helpful these guidelines are to your church. >> the guidelines are helpful to all churches. it gives us a way to determine how we begin to either open or gradually reopen, i know in new york, they have not really allowed gatherings beyond ten persons, which really impacts most congregations in the city. that means the guidelines have been issued, how do we protect our communities, our congregants, how do we protect the people that could be drastically impacted by this, at the end of the day, i think many of us who have been paying attention to the president know that this is based on political exceed yancey, it's not out of deep concern for people's spiritual well being, when the president sees the decline in his numbers among white evangelicals, he had to do something. i'm not moved that the president is spiritually or religiously moved, i know he's doing what is

politically expedient. >> suppose president trump did try to use the law in reopening all houses of worship, what does the first amendment actually say about that? my understanding of the first amendment is that any restrictions on speech have to be content neutral, so youen cat treat mosques differently than synagogues different than churches. and the government does have the power to regulate the time, place and manner in which protected speech takes place. do i have that right? >> you have it exactly right, as a matter of general first amendment law. there's another series of cases about the free exercise clause, and in a case called the smith case, decided in 19890, the supreme court said that religious groups can be subject to the same general laws as everyone else. then congress passed a law called the religious freedom restoration act. which says that religious institutions are entitled to an exemption, when states are not

using the least restrictive means. the supreme court is debating this very question in two cases that it heard about whether there should be a ministerial exempting -- this is an open area of law, the general rule is that churches can be treated according to the same laws as everyone else unless there is a compelling interest and there's no least restrictive means in treating them differently. >> for people who say i need to go book to church in person, in the sanctuary, i've waited long enough, it means too much to me, i need to go back to church as a place and not just as a place in my heart. what would you say to them? >> i've been saying it. i like many pastors want to be in the sanctuary. we miss the worship, the fellowship, the community that's formed in these various places of worship.

at the same time i value those people i serve as a pastor too, and so for me although there are persons who want to be in the building, i think wanting to be in the building ought not cause the potential cost of your life. i'm reminding people, and if you take people who are high risk, i suffer from an immunal deficiency disease, that means for me, i'm the highest of the high risk, i have to be mindful of myself, it's not a selfish decision, but persons who feel compelled to be in the building just to be in the building without being mindful of those that could be suffering or are at risk is selfish. the health and the well being of the people of our community is first, and we can worship god digitally, virtually, we can fellowship virtually. the one thing we have to be mindful of is the well being of our members. >> what are you praying for these days?

>> what's your prayer life been like lately? >> well, in particular, i think it has shifted as this virus began to take impact. it was praying for the safety of many people, now i'm concerned about another way, beyond the virus itself, it is those that will suffer deeper with bouts of depression, anxiety, with emotional trauma because of the restrictions, because of the pandemic itself. i think that's another wave that's not being talked about as much as it needs to. my prayers are those that are not only pre-existing mental health conditions, those that because of the pandemic may find themselves experiencing depressive symptoms and panic attacks. my prayers are for those suffering with mental health issues and because of this pandemic may suffer from more. >> thank you both for joining e

me. let's continue the conversation now with former florida congressman david jolly and anna marie cox. glad to have you two with us, we will broaden our panel in a little bit. anna marie, let me start with you on this cultural fault line with regards to houses of worship, how do you see this in a larger sense. the pastor mentioned the centrality of white evangelical christians, is it as simple as that or is there more to it than that? >> the president sometimes talked about four dimensional chess, i think he's often just shooting a single checker into the wind. it's not even a game. he's just doing the thing that he gets rewarded for, which is pandering to the white evangelicals. as a person of faith myself,

this emphasis of going to the church does seem misplaced to me. if that is -- community is very important, like the paster was saying before, but that is not where spirituality comes from, it's almost condescending to those that do have a faith practice to say what you really need to do is go to church. i think he's just widening the cultural gap in how we react to the coronavirus, and it's tragic this is happening in our country. this should not be a culture war, this should be a war that has just two sides and one is the virus, the other is the rest of us. the fact that the government and trump specifically, the federal government seems to be wanting to divide humans is infire yating, and i think history will not look kindly on it. >> congresswoman, what about the state side of it.

the governor got a lot of heat for the wwe thing, now it sounds like the nba may be turning there. what is your essentiality in terms of florida. >> florida is going to be a case study if you will, in the coming weeks, for what happens when a state begins to reopen and begins to reopen with relatively loose restrictions, and we saw the numbers start to tick up this past week. i think it will be an interesting study, and churches come into this as well. i would comment i agree with so much that has already been said. this is a raw political play by the president. he tries to make it look like he is fighting for the church when he has know power to do what he announced he was going to do yesterday. i would concur with everyone else and say, faith is a personal exercise, it does not require that it be exercised within the four walls of a

church, and go back to florida, i would say, church adapted immediately down the road for me, and started having outdoor services, almost like a drive in movie theater, where they bring people in by their cars and they're able to worship together as a community and a family. what he's doing in trying to empower the church, he's putting the church in a very bad spot. because there are going to be church leaders that now have to answer are they answering to the president or to the safety of their congregation. and to congregants i would simply say, not attending church services does not make you a bad christian or a bad person of faith. it makes you a christian or a person of faith that is going to live longer. consider that when you listen to the words of the president. >> i would like to talk to you more governor. that's a conversation for another night. both of you stick around, we have much more to discuss ahead tonight.

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questions. >> you have more questions. if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or trump, you ain't black. >> it has nothing to do with trump, i want something for my community. >> joe biden is trying to make amends after a interview went the wrong way. >> the last thing i want to do, and i shouldn't have been such a wise guy, i shouldn't have been cavalier in responding to when i thought was -- i don't take it for granted at all. no one, no one should have to vote for any party based on their race, religion, background. some of the criticism in biden's retort came from tim scott of south carolina. scott was quick to point out that more than a million black voters chose donald trump. that is the first topic we'll

discuss with tonight's panel. we have brittany cooper, anna marie cox is back with us, and we have three of our msnbc contributors. good to have all of you with us tonight. let me come back to you, what do you make of the former vice president's remarks. >> well, look, this was a message that lands very differently with black americans than white americans, so my opinion matters very little in that context. i will tell you i thought the apology was right, or the cleanup was right, he admitted that he shouldn't make assumptions that put political persuasions based on race. it seemed like an accurate statement. i understand it was a bit of a misstep, what we know of donald trump, this is a man who had to settle a racial discrimination

suit in the '70s, because he refused to rent to black people. he led on birtherism, he suggested that he ran that his political opportunity with black people was based on the platform, what do you have to lose. to hear biden ar stick u late that is there any question which party and which candidate in this case, best represents the priorities of people of color. it did make sense. but it lands differently to a political observer who is not part of the fabric of black america. from that, i would defer to others. >> brittany, this month a poll from the african-american research collaborative surveyed black americans on the trump administration's handling of coronavirus. three out of four say they consider president trump to be the top threat to their well being. three out of four, how might that con texturalize what joe biden said. >> the question i'm asking myself is, why is the

front-runner for the democratic nomination still so terrible in talking about race and talking about black issues in 2020. he has been the vice president to a black man, and yet he still does not know how to talk to african-americans about issues that concern us. i thought one of the better parts of the interview was the moment when joe biden talked about the racial disparities that exist because of covid. he talked about those things and he really laid out compelling reasons why black people were afraid of the way that trump is handling virus. the challenge of that is that he also accurately attributes those challenges to institutional racism, and then in the same interview, he doubles down on one of the most problematic policies to come out of democratic politics in the last 235 years, that's the crime bill. i'm more -- i'm deeply disturbed by the fact that joe biden thinks he can tell any black person what it means to be black, it is white supremacy that has determined the context

by which black folks come to be black, literally through the way it has tied our skin color to a notion of race, and therefore tied our treatment to a notion of race. the idea that politics determines blackness is completely inaccurate. even if you want to make claims about culture, i'm more bothered in that interview with the fact that he doubles down on why the crime bill wasn't bad for african-americans after we dealt with a couple decades of mass encarceration, right? that's the thing we need to be talking about. he even goes so far as to say that hillary clinton's atoning for it is wrong. i'm not a huge fan of charlamagne the god, i do agree with him saying, it's not enough for you to run as the anti-trump. you have to run for black people. >> i listened to the whole

interview. he was asked about the crime bill, mandatory minimum sentences, in that regard, here's part of what biden said. >> there's this whole move, same time for the same crime, no one based on their color could go to jail longer than anybody else for the same crime. the unintended consequence which we changed, barack and i did, was the fact that you in fact all of a sudden you could not lower my sentence or your sentence lower than what was the average sentence for everybody else going to jail in the districts. that's how that came about. it didn't say mandatory, we said to the judges, you can't send people to jail for the same crime, different times. they have to be within a framework. that's why that has been changed. >> before we pause, i don't want us to generalize too much, what is your sense of the biden campaign standing among black

americans, especially in light of some of the comments that president trump has made to black voters about 2020? >> my sense, talking to sources, talking to democratic voters is that biden's standing with african-americans remains strong, mainly because the person he's running against is someone that a lot of people -- not all, but a lot of people think is a racist. you look at what joe biden said, the idea that african-americans, if they were considering president trump, that they were somehow less african-american, that was seen problematic by every black person i talked to. there was a feeling that joe biden had too much hubris in that statement. he was taking for granted african-americans would choose him. he was very quick pointing out the same day, he atoned for his mistake, and the biden campaign is hoping people will move on from that. i will say the way he's embraces it, is different from the way the president has embraced the

way he's talked about, including when president trump said that jewish people would be disloyal if they voted for a democrat, he never apologized for that statement. you have someone who has continued to double down on what he thinks are the way he should be politically incorrect and the way he should go after voters. that's the president's style. you have a different style in joe biden. both voters will look at both men and make their decisions. you have president trump doubling down, and you have joe biden understanding that he made a mistake, and his campaign is circling the wagons quickly and saying, we need to get this dealt with today, he didn't wait, and i think that was a smart decision on his part, we'll have to see where things are, i don't think this really shakes joe biden's standing on african-americans. >> we have more to discuss this evening, we have to bid good night to brittany cooper.

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this pandemic has brought national moments of unity. skylines across the country were turned blue, to the thrilling flyovers by the thunderbirds and the blue angels. millions of americans have kept their social distance, stayed inside and wore masks and face coverings when we did vern tour out. in crisis has reminded us of our cultural fault lines. including some who were armed,

demanding that states liberate themselves. >> so what happens once we get past this pandemic? can we maintain this feeling of national unity? will the fault lines deepen? >> back now to our panel. >> awe dressed this issue, you wrote in part lately some commentators suggested they pit an affluent class against a working class, more willing to take risks to do their jobs. but you call that a phony class war. why? >> right, well, to be clear, i don't think there's national unity over coronavirus, i just think the split is partisan rather than a split on class. there's a narrative you hear on the right that people who are pushing lock journs are just

elite experts who don't have anything to lose because they can work from home. and it's the working class clamoring to get back to work. that's not true. it's actually people who have lost their jobs that are slightly more supportive of the lockdown orders than people who haven't. and people who have looked at the data and done surveys say the real line, what determines your attitude on lock join is less whether you've been financially impacted than your politics. in some ways, we have a lot of national unity. widespread support for lockdowns, i think because we have a president who is determined to turn this into a culture war as a way to evade responsibility for getting as bad as it has. quickly a lot of public health measures have become culture war issues, which is why you're

seeing growing resistance. to simple measures like masks that would allow us to get out of lockdown. >> there was another opinion piece. cate blanchett wrote about the role art can play in bridging the gap. i realize just how important a shared sense of meaning is in our brave new world of social distancing and self-isolation. communication and comprehension are as critical to the delicate fabric of scientific investigation. how do we keep that fabric together. especially if some of us can't agree on the facts around coronavirus. >> that's a difficult question. i think that one issue. i'm going to put in a plug war

for class war after all. i don't think it's the one that the right is describing. what i see happening during this time, during this quarantine time. a lot of the fault lines that have existed have been papered over by a lot of well meaning white people are coming to the fore. they're being revealed. the health disparities for people of color. the fact that so many people of chore are our front line essential workers and they don't have the health care they need, or the job security they need these are the things i feel like i knew before. but are so glaring now that i really hope people can consider themselves to be good liberals, consider themselves to be good citizens, are doing more than just applauding at 7:p.m. they're looking at the policies we have, and the people we affect in their every day lives. trying to see how those connections can be made stronger, that we really are a

fabric, that these people that work in the grocery stores, that deliver our food deserve all of the things that we have. and that we need to create policies to do that. we're also seeing -- one more thing. we're seeing in this coronavirus time how little individual actions make a big difference. staying home, wearing a mask. those differences can happen on a political level. where you choose to shop, who you choose to patronize, all those things matter. we don't forget that, when the applause at 7:00 doesn't happen any more, i hope people are still thinking about the lives and the futures of the people that made it possible for most of us to stay indoors. >> i'm really glad you mentioned that. we have to pause. we'll have more in a few minutes. we've been asking you to share your stories of encouragement tonight as we all deal with this historic crisis about what people are doing right now. susan in maryland told us if a

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applied science, a frontier of discovery layered with political tension and social anxiety. this pandemic shows no signs of stopping any time soon. fearful citizens are turning to their leaders for signs of hope or security. president trump's comments have immediate it hard for some folks to know which way is up, even with researchers pointing the way. how does our science literacy look these days. joining us to work through that is someone i am trying desperately not to geek out over bill nye is more than just the science guy. he's the ceo of the planetary society. he also hosts the pod cast science rules. bill nye, good evening. >> good evening. it's great to see you. >> what is your sense of science literacy these days. your program was one of the programs that kind of helped me to have science literacy as a

very young person. are they an ab race, in law with the mainstream? >> to be sure, the president is not taking everybody's advice very well. people tell them to wear a mask. a mask doesn't solve all your problems. but if everybody's wearing a mask, the effect they do have is doubled. almost doubled. aerosoles, when droplets get in the air and you breathe them in, the president's taking a lot of risks and it's as everybody says not a good example, but that aside, what is going to happen -- let's look at it this way, we want to get to this mythic thing called herd immunity. where enough people are immune or the likelihood of you getting infected is lower and lower, you're going to get up to around 3/4. maybe even as low as 60% of us

infected. we're going to get there one way or the other, just everybody would prefer to get there with vaccines. so what we want to do is slow down the rate at which people are getting infected. so that our hospitals and health care system can handle sick people. here's what i'm imagining. we have all as these experts on the science poll pod cast. the middle of the road cable news network. the same people come on my pod cast and we give them longer to explain their points of view. here's what's going to happen. people are going to get infected, they're going to recover. what's going to ham in florida and georgia and other states that open early, there may be an opportunity when an extraordinary number of people get sick now.

you know, everybody has talked about, it's three days, it's 14 days. so after these places open. in the next two weeks or 10 days, we will expect a lot more people to be infected. and perhaps this will be an opportunity to get everybody to accept that science really is in their best interest. >> can i -- >> well, we have to -- >> can i look at the long term impact of that. in terms of science being in the best interest. science doesn't form policy, we're not an detroits, some decisions are made from the gut. i don't think there's a rationale for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. there are some folks who seem intent on reopening, no matter what anyone says, long term. >> so here's my claim, all the people that we've had on my poed

cast, go on and on about reopening early, especially in asymmetrical ways, some states are open, some states aren't. there's going to be an increase in infection. generally, it's agreed now, it's just going to be the first wave that keeps going. i don't mean to be dismissive, the first wave is not going to be the second wave. i hope we can take this opportunity to dismiss these remarkable conspiracy theories that are emerging and this whole idea that there's two different viruses, one that affects conservatives and ones that affect liberals. the reason we're able to have this meeting is because of science.

the understanding of pandemics is every bit or perhaps even more scientific because it's a couple centuries old. i'm hoping, it would be great if the second wave or the extended first wave did not extend but it almost certainly will. and it almost certainly will in the states that have opened sooner. and this is it's not a conspiracy, it's the way it is. we all have a common ancestor here on this 4 1/2 billion-year-old planet and there are viruses that infect us. i'm sorry, everybody, it's just how it is. >> you can't -- >> i'm hoping we can take advantage of this to get people educated. you can pound on the table and go on and on. we have to do better. and we will. but man it's going to be a tough road. >> bill nye the science guy, host of the pod cast, science rules, it's been a pleasure talking to you.

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fixer michael cohen is at home tonight. fs released from prison early, due to the risk of contracting coronavirus behind bars. he is among the lucky ones to serve home detention, along with former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. america has nearly 30,000 cases of coronavirus in prisons. more than 400 prisoners have died. it is yet another fight to survive for the more than 2 million people incarcerated nationwide. according to reuters, large numbers of inmates are showing no symptoms, as mass coronavirus testing expands. in arkansas, north carolina, ohio, and virginia, nearly no one who tested positive had any symptoms. our prison population will, in most cases, rejoin our general population. according to the bureau of justice, nearly all state prisoners are, or will be, eligible for release. how might we help those behind bars who now face an unexpected death sentence? let's bring back our panel, along with kevin ring, he is the

president of families against mandatory minimums. kevin, let me start with you. paint us a picture. how do you see things inside our prisons, at the moment, including as it relates to coronavirus? give us a snapshot. >> yeah. it's terrifying. their families are -- across the country are terrified for their loved ones. we see that, in the outside world, governors are using authority to close private businesses at gunpoint, use extraordinary measures to keep the public safe. and, in some prisons in this country, they're lucky to get soap. and this is an environment where there's no social distancing. the hygiene is terrible. and the conditions are awful. and so they feel like sitting ducks and their loved ones on the outside are trying to do everything they can to get them out. they don't begrudge things like michael cohen get released but they know the answer from the health experts and across the board is that we need to release some people, safely, back into

the community. so that you can protect those who are inside. and so there's -- not a lot of that is going on. and so we think that's a huge problem. we think governors, president, everyone needs to step up and safely reduce people who can be in home confinement, in their community. and that's not happening. >> well, to that end, you've been advocating something called the grace act, which aims to improve compassionate release for prisoners. in a nutshell, why do you support the grace act? >> well, so there's two programs the federal government can use to get people out. one is home confinement and that's been getting a lot of attention. but there's another program called the compassionate release program. and our organization and a couple others have brought together hundreds much attornof to train them. so we can match them with federal prisoners who are sick and elderly and most susceptible to contracting covid so they can file motions in federal court to get out. the home-confinement rules the attorney general is using, you know, limit eligibility. and so a lot of people are not

getting out, who should be. and, as you said, these people were not sentenced to die in prison. most of these people are coming home. and their loved ones, you know, want them home, safely. and so the prisons are not able to keep them safe. and so our view has been either keep them safe or send them home. compassionate release is a program that exists that allows people, if they have -- you know, if they're elderly, they're sick, and now they're at risk of covid, of getting before a federal judge, making the case, and having their sentence shortened so that they can go home. i'm happy to say that we've matched 900 federal prisoners with pro bono attorneys in an incredible effort. 300 people have been released in the last couple months. we need to do more. but this is -- this is a program that needs to be used in order to save lives. >> in terms of doing more, before we go, governor andrew cuomo announced thursday that new york prisoners will release pregnant women with fewer than six months on their sentences if they were sentenced for nonviolent offenses.

briefly, before we go, what's your sense of whether there is a larger political push to be more compassionate? whether we're moving in that direction? >> it seems like there is. >> oh, i'm sorry. if you would take that question, before we go. >> it seems like there's some political will, on the republican and democratic side, to look at prisons. and say what can we do to keep prisoners more safe? who can we let out? and allow people to be able to be more healthy. but i think that there is a bigger issue here, which is that prisons are really the places that are most opec in our society. this is i think one of the issues that is going to continue to just be on people's mindins we look into the future, past covid. >> pbs news hour. kevin ring from families against mandatory minimums. former congressman david jolly and anna marie cox. glad to have you all with us this evening. thank you very much. and thank you, as well, for making time for us on msnbc. let's meet back here tomorrow at

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