tv Weekends With Alex Witt MSNBC May 24, 2020 9:00am-11:00am PDT
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activities. right now, we are waiting for andrew cuomo about to give his daily briefing. we look at times square. pretty empty on this sunday. we will bring the briefing to you as it gets underway. right now, we get you the news you need to know. the facts as the u.s. death toll approaches 100,000, a stunning tribute to the lives lost on today's front page of the "new york times." naming 1,000 victims of the pandemic. an introduction to the list explains, the 1,000 people here reflect just 1% of the toll. on the heels of that right now, andrew cuomo has begun his briefing. let's listen to him. >> rolling average of hospitalizations is down. that's good news. the intubations are down. the new cases are up a little bit on the rolling average, but all part of the decline. so that's all good news. number of deaths picked up, which is terrible news.
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the overall line is still good. the 109 families that lost a loved one, they are in our thoughts and prayers. what does the governor do on memorial day weekend? people ask me all the time, what do you do? what does a governor do on memorial day weekend? you go to the beach. that's what a governor does. he brings his friends. i'm here with my friends today from far right, gareth, melissa, robert and dr. jim melotras. we're at the beach. beaches in new york state -- state beaches are open. jones beach, sunken meadow, robert moses, campgrounds, rv
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parks open tomorrow. we're excited about that. we remind all new yorkers to be smart in what they are doing. we're now decidedly in the reopening phase. we have been following the numbers from day one. not emotions. following the science, not the politics. this is not a political ideology question. this is a public health question. it's about a disease, stopping the disease, stopping the spread of the disease. and that's science. it's not politics. we have all the numbers posted for all regions in the state. we want people to understand the numbers. we want people to understand what's going on, because it is their actions that determine our future. so informing the people of the state, that's what i have done from day one. every day. that's what we will continue to do. also, we feel that this is a case of first impression.
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we have never been here before. we have never before here before in our life types. that's true. the country has been through this before. you learn from the past. the virus came back. this is not -- it's not about what you think, ideology. this is what we know. these are facts. you go back and you look at what happened in the 1918 pandemic in st. louis. look at denver where they loosened up too quickly and the virus came back. article in the paper today, "the washington post," 24 states may have an uncontrolled growth of the virus. they are talking about california and florida may still
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see a spike in the number of deaths. okay? those are all facts. and they reinforce the point we have been making. follow the numbers, follow the science. we have done just that. that's why you see our curve is coming down where many places in the country, the curve is going up. remember what happened to us was no fault of our own. actually, it makes the point, because what happened to us was we did not have the facts when this started. everybody said the facts were the virus was coming from china. those were not the facts. the virus went to europe. nobody told us. people came from europe to new york and to new jersey and to connecticut. 3 million european travellers came, january, february, march, before we did the european travel ban. and they brought the virus to
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new york. and that's why the new york number was so high. we didn't have the facts. we were not informed. but once we got past that and we were in control, we have been smart. and smart has worked. we just have to stay smart. even though it's been a long time and people are anxious, we have to stay smart. you keep watching those numbers. the mid hudson is still on track on the numbers to open tuesday. long island is on track to meet the numbers on wednesday. we have to get the number of deaths down on long island. we have to get the number of tracers up. but we're doing that. we're preparing for long island to open. we're getting the transportation system ready. the long island railroad is run by the mta. they're going to be cleaning and
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disinfecting all trains and buses every day. first time ever. we never disinfected buses and trains before. we manufactunever thought we ha. we get it now. they're doing te ining it every. they will add more cars so people can space out and socially distance when long island opens. i want people to remember that a mask is mandatory on public transportation. i think you are making a mistake -- a grave mistake if you don't use a mask in your own personal life. we know that it works. we know that the first responders have a lower infection rate than the general population because they wore the masks. i think if you don't wear the mask in your personal comings and goings, you are making a mistake. but i do know as governor, if you are going to subject other people in the public to your behavior, then you have to wear
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a mask when you can't socially distance. and that's true on public transportation. starting today, all the new york professional sports leagues will be able to begin training camps. i believe that sports that can come back without having people in the stadium, without having people in the arena, do it. do it. work out the economics if you can. we want you up. we want people to be able to watch sports to the extent people are still staying home. it gives people something to do. it's a return to normalcy. so we are working and encouraging all sports teams to start their training camps as soon as possible. and we will work with them to make sure that can happen. all veterinary practices will begin on tuesday. that's a service that is necessary and has been necessary for a period of time. that will start on tuesday. i want people to remember that
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there are people who have paid a very high price -- everybody paid a high price for what we have gone through. some people have paid an extraordinarily high price. you have people who literally don't have enough to eat. the demand on food banks has skyrocketed. it's true all to cross the state and long island. we encourage people and philanthropies to make donations make them for the purpose of food banks. this sis a period where it gets basic. do you have housing and do you have food? let's make sure no new yorker goes hungry. also, as we go forward, we have been talking about the light at the end of the tunnel. and we're dealing with it today in the here and now. but we also have one eye on the future. when we finish getting through this, which we are, we have to
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start talking about building back better. not just building back. building back better. same attitude we had here on long island after hurricane super storm sandy devastated long island. i said, i don't want to just replace what was. we went through too much pain. we learned too much just to replace what was. let's build back better, a new power grid, new more resilience homes, more resilient roads so when mother nature comes back -- she will come back -- we're in a better position. because we learned from super storm sandy. let's do the same thing here. what do we really think, this is the last time we're going to have a public health emergency? does anyone really believe this is the last time? like super storm sandy, well, it's once in 500 years. yeah, sure, once in 500 years. it happens three times a year
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now. this can't be once in 500 years there are new rules. i believe there's going to be another public health emergency. different virus, this virus, some other public health emergency. learn from this, build back better. we asked eric schmidt, who is very good at seeing issues and seeing possibilities, to chair a commission for us to look at the situation and say, how do we learn from this and how do we prepare going forward. we put together a commission that's going to work with him that represents all aspects of the state, all aspects of the economy. but i want them to get to work. i want them to come up with ideas. and let's make sure that we're better for what we have gone through. start preparing for a new chapter in this saga.
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we're writing -- we're writing history in new york. we're writing history in america. that's what we're doing. we're writing history. for a whole modern day governmental and societal response. chapter one was dealing with the emergency. stabilizing the health crisis. that was chapter one. we have just about completed chapter one. we have started chapter two, which is reopening after you have stabilized the health crisis. and we're starting to write chapter two. chapter three, which we're going to be begin preparing for soon, is rebuilding and recreating the economy. i don't believe this economy just bounces back. i don't believe it's going to be
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enough just to go back to where the economy was. mr. will use this many will use this to play off workers. many businesses will go through a period where workers were at home, fewer workers, they used more technology and they're going to decide, we don't need as many workers. that's going to happen. you will have people who decide, i don't want to go back to work. i would rather stay home and do it from home. we're going to need to stimulate that economy. government has a role to play in that. it always has. how does government stimulate and lead the way to these new economic opportunities? how does that commission come up with new ideas that we can jump start to grow the economy? that's what the next chapter is going to be about.
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it's going to be about government working with the private sector, working with businesses to jump start the economy, to stimulate it, to get some big projects going. that get the business sector engaged and confident and believing once again. gets people into a position where they will invest once again. because they believe in the economy. build new airports, which makes this nation more competitive. that's what we're doing at la guardia, that's what we're doing at jfk. this nation hasn't built a new airport in 25 years. when are you going to start? now is the time to start. how do you improve mass transit? how do you rebuild roads and bridges failing so long? nobody has done a darn thing. how about new technology for education? how about new telemedicine? we learned not everybody has to show up in the doctor's office.
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invest and build the new health care system. we take about a new health care system that can do testing and tracing and has surge capacity and hospital beds. let's build that new public health system and let government get ahead of it and let government lead the way. new york state has led the way in so many difficult times in history. new york was the first. i'm not just saying th ining th new yorker. read the history books. read where fdr came up with his great ideas. he used new york as a laboratory when he was governor, and then he brought them nationwide. we were the first. we started it first. people looked to new york for guidance and for example. new york was bold and was creative. they talk about the new york
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energy, the new york mojo. yes, that is new york. we did things that other people didn't think could be done. and we did it over and over and over again. jones beach today, jones beach is indescribably beautiful, yes. it's also something else. it was a tremendous feat of ambition and vision meeting competen competence. built by robert moses. you know what's funny about jones beach when he started to build jones beach? there was no beach. there was no beach. people assume you have a beach because mother nature put a beach there. there was no beach. this was all built. this was all marsh. this is seven miles of fill.
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they filled a seven-mile stretch 14 feet high. it took so much fill that they dug the channel, a canal, and used that fill to build a beach. how ambitious? you are going to build a beach seven miles long, 14 feet of fill? that's impossible. no, they did it in three years. and it was a marvel, because they believed in themselves. because you had smart government. you had competent government. people believed in government. and they do again, because government did work for people here. it saved lives. so let's get that kind of ambition back. let's get that kind of optimism back. we built new york. mother nature didn't build this.
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she gave us a beautiful harbor, but everything else was built. and we did it. and we can do it again. that's what it means to be new york tough and smart and unit and disciplined and loving. questions? >> crowded with a lot of patrons. some video showing -- >> the dublin deck was crowded friday night. i do not know the dublin deck. i'm sure it's a great establishment. does anybody know about the -- >> yeah. from what i understand, it was raining on friday evening. the bar allowed people to come inside to pick up their food. that's the explanation conveyed to the police. from what i understand, the police broke it up. i want to take this opportunity to remind everyone that crowding
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of any kind against what we're advising. everybody should be wearing masks. from what i understand, photos showed people not wearing masks. it's stupid for the bar, for patrons. i take them at their word that that's what happened. moving forward, they should be on notice. the enforcement is up to locals. >> it's supposed to be curbside pickup. that doesn't sound like curbside pickup. >> at jones beach, we're limiting the number of parking spaces. it looks like half of the spaces are taken. i was wondering when the weather this week gets warmer, we get crowds of people with quarantine fatigue looking for relief, are they going to find there's no place to park and they took an hour trip for nothing and they will go back home? >> observation should be technically correct. there should be orange cones in
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half the number of spots because we set 50% capacity is a max. that's to make sure we have social distancing on the beach. we can do social distancing on the beach, because we're at 50% of max. we have not reached 50% of max. no one has been turned away. as the weather gets warmer, i expect more people will come. the reopening of the economy is going to be across the board. we start gradually. we start slowly. we make sure we're all being smart so the virus infection rate stays down. then we continue to reopen. >> based on what he said as the summer goes on, would it be a possibility to have an odd number of license plates or even on certain days? >> you could. if we keep -- if we remain smart, you can increase economic
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activity without necessarily increasing the viral spread. okay? this is a perfect scenario. people start to come out, more people are coming out, but they're all doing it smart. they're wearing ppe, they are staying away from each other, they are using hand sanitizer. the virus infection rate doesn't go up. or it goes up a little bit. as long as you are controlling that virus infection rate, then keep continuing opening. that's why i keep hammering the smart part of this. if you are wearing a mask and you are doing a hand sanitizer, you could increase your activity and not infect anyone. that's what we have been doing so far. but what does next week look like? next week is a function of what we do today. that sounds too glib.
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that's factuall try true. i will tell you the infection rate three days from today. you want to open faster? be smart. we will calibrate it to the infection spread. what you are protecting against is what they are talking about for other states. that infection rate goes up, number of deaths goes up, the overwhelm the hospitals again. that's what we're protecting against. but if we stay smart and we have been smart -- look at our numbers compared to other states. there's a dramatic difference on what's going on. because we have been hammering the smart. stay smart, watch the numbers and i will tell you what happens next week when we see what people do today and if those numbers stay down, then keep increasing economic activity.
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let's do one more. we don't have one more? you like getting the last question. >> i like the first. >> it's about testing. some people get the third degree when they go for a test. is that what you want happening? should anyone who wants one get one easily? >> you get prioritizprioritized. you get the third degree. you get prioritized because what we -- all of us want is the most likely people infected the fastest. right? so if you are showing symptoms, go to the front of the line. if you know you were in contact with a covid positive person, go
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to the front of the line. because we're really worried about you. if uriyou are infected, i want to know so you can isolate and we can start the contact tracing. third degree, yeah. we want to know where you were, what makes you think you were infected, how old you are, because getting that data is very helpful to us. we're now focusing on where cases are coming from. where do you live? i live in nassau. where? what community? are you an essential worker? have you been working? just to give us data. it's private but we want to get dad data so we know where the infection is coming from so we can focus on those areas. >> what if they are denied? >> that's not the situation
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we're in. we have extra capacity. we have drive-ins -- i passed one. we can do 15,000 tests a day. we're doingtests a day. we're not at capacity level. we have more capacity for the public than we are now using. that's why i keep encouraging people to come out. yes, there's a prioritizing. if i think you are positive, i want to get you tested by 1:00 p.m. so you are isolated at 1:20 and you don't infect anyone else. right? it's about keeping that infection spread number down. all right? let's enjoy memorial day weekend. thank you all very much for taking the time. thank you. >> there you have it, new york governor andrew cuomo wrapping up his briefing on coronavirus. welcome back to all of you. we will continue now with dr.
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natalie azar, dr. gupta and maura barrett in wildwood, new jersey. let's go to you, dr. azar, what was your takeaway? the good news, painful for each family, but the overall up ins of those lost to covid is down dramatically. >> you know, there was a little blip. 84 yesterday and 109 today, which i don't think is unexpected. we want to see a sustained low rate and dropping and certainly not a trajectory upward. i think that's very good. a couple of other things i like the way he sort of categorized everything, chapter one, chapter two and chapter three. i'm drawn to the public health infrastructure and telemedicine. we're not going to turn the clock back nor do we necessarily want to go back to where we were before this all happened. we have to learn from it.
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those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. i think that a lot of good will potentially come out of the changes and the progression that we made in the health care industry, including the telemedicine. important is the public infrastructure that wasn't in place that hopefully we will have in place for the second surge. we do anticipate they will. >> absolutely. dr. gupta, the fact that the governor was at the beach, indicative where so many americans would like to be or hope to be, certainly, or are this weekend, jones beach there, for those beachgoers right now, how concerned are you about the possibility of spread of covid? does the fact that people are outdoors, does that help loosen the possibility, lower the risk that they will pick up the virus because of the great outdoors nature of things rather than being indoors? >> i think physically being
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outdoors is not an issue. frankly, you are better protected if you are outdoors than in a densely populated indoor space. that's why we're concerned about churchgoers and that's why we're concerned -- and opening up places of worship, because we know that potentially one pastor in northern california might have infected 180 other parishioners. we are worried about density in enclosed spaces. i loved what governor cuomo said in terms of calling people -- people going to the restaurant on jones beach, his adviser referred to them and the process of congregating in the bar stupid because it was. people need to be messaging strongly elected leaders on social distancing wearing a mask. that's the message we need from the president. for them to call it out, not doing things we all know we should be doing right now, as we start congregating again, masks, infection control at the top of
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mind, but social distancing, curbside pickup. this is common sense. we need elected leaders to call balls and strikes and he did that. i like that. physically being out on a beach, as long as you are minding the rules, we should be able to re-emerge and engage in that way. >> absolutely i agree with that. among the rules out there is wearing masks. i haven't been out strolling on beaches this weekend. but i can say that from the video i have seen, i have seen nobody on the sand wearing a mask. the reality is that people out there trying to soak up the sun -- who wants a mask tan? unless that becomes in vogue, not likely. think about it. how many people will not be wearing masks? is it going to be okay for them or not as they maybe sit out in the sun or take a walk in the shallows of the water? >> right. i thinkndation is to wear a mask if you are cannot
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maintain a six-foot distance from people who are outside of your immediate family. if you are sitting with your group of people and you are at least six feet away from other folks laying out on the beach, theoretically, you don't need to wear it. i think the concern becomes when people are going to use the rest room facilities, if they are open, or doing curbside pickup and standing in line to get food. wearing the mask, it's not recommended to wear it in the water, because if it gets wet, it's not usable. the interesting thing is we have talked about swimming pools. we thinks the chlorine inactivates the virus. not sure about sea water and water in pools. it's not going to be comfortable for people to be out in the heat and humidity and wearing the mask. as long as they are within their group, they don't necessarily need to. as soon as they are getting into that danger zone as more people
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congregate on the beach, it's going to get tougher to maintain the six-foot distance. >> dr. gupta, that's regarding a vaccine, i want to focus on that coming out of oxford university. there's a doctor that says there is a 50% chance of success in this one, the number of people are going down with the virus, but does that present a problem, doctor, with developing a vaccine, because you have less people from which to draw for the research, for testing and that sort of thing? is there concern on that front for you? >> huge concern. this is where we had to temper our expectations up front about the speed with which we could safely deploy a vaccine that we think is effective. phase two -- phase one of any vaccine development is, is it safe? is it well tolerated? are we going to harm people by giving it? also, is there some sense that it is effective in creating
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antibodies in the human being? phase two is, is it actually neutralizing covid-19? is it fighting it off? we need to give it to individuals, healthy volunteers and we need to hope they get infected with it or exposed to it and then are able to fight it off. the point of the oxford researcher is, we can't guarantee they will get naturally exposed to covid-19. how are you going to do phase two of the study? it's hard. if covid-19 rates are declining, which is ultimately good news in the short-term, it's bad when we test this vaccine to see if it's effective. that leads to the other potential discussion point. are we going to intentionally infect healthy volunteers with covid-19 and see if the vaccine can help fight it off? that's been something that's raised to really accelerate this
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time line. that's key. you have nailed it. it's important to be mindful the natural blockers will limit the ability to get an faeffective vaccine out quickly. >> how often does that happen, that healthy patients are intentionally injected with something? >> that's not common. this is completely outside the box of what is common. not only is the technology not common, we have never developed a vaccine to commercialization based on injecting the genetic footprint of a virus into a human body. that's what we are doing. this oxford group, very novel. we're dealing with something that's revolutionary. on the back end, let's expose healthy volunteers for the vaccine and the infection, it completely r lly -- none of thi
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none. >> i'm glad the novelty of having both of you is not one because i'm looking forward to seeing you both. with the beaches in new jersey open, they are bracing for a major hit among the restrictions. let's go to marry are maura barw jersey. >> reporter: businessowners here along the jersey shore emphasized how important this weekend is. remember, there's memorial day weekend, july 4th and then labor day weekend, which brings in a lot of people to the jersey shore. it's an abreeb abreviated syste because of covid-19. while there are some people biking along the boardwalk, it's mainly people who have second homes here or are taking day trips. on a day like this, it's not prime beach weather for those day trips. small businesses, restaurants, people that rent apartments are
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really missing out on this key first weekend. i spoke to angelo who owns a pizza shop and rents apartments. he has been doing this 40 years. he has seen a major hit. i spoke to him about what his profit future looks like for this summer. take a listen to what he told me. >> this is our opening weekend. i don't see a huge amount of traffic coming into town yet. maybe the weather was a factor that deterred people from coming down. having said that, if i estimate doing 50% of the business this upcoming weekend compared to previous years, it's really not a great thing. our margins are very low to begin with. we have to work a tight ship to walk away with a 10%, 15% profit. >> reporter: because angelo only has to hire back half of his normal staff because he is not open full-time and getting foot traffic for his business, he is
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seeing more hits in the profits he will be making. economists say down along the jersey shore, they could see a 30% decline in economic impact along the coast here. this is an industry that normally brings in $50 billion to the state. >> just observation in your live shot, looks good from a health perspective, lots of social distancing in wildwood. economical economically, struggles going on. joining me now, congresswoman sheryl. we heard from that businessowner in wildwood, new jersey. when it comes to businesses in your district, the small ones in particular, you say the implementation of the relief program has only added to their frustration. i know you have requested the treasury as well as sba to make some changes based on all this feedback you got from your district. tell us about that.
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>> thank you so much for having me. as you can imagine, we have been getting feedback. a lot of calls into my office talking about the ppp, talking about how small businesses are doing. quite frankly, the ppp has not been working for many of our small businesses. the 75/25 breakdown that the treasury put in place is not working. the time line isn't working. we had over 300 people respond, over 50 municipalities in my district, to talk a little bit about what people are seeing on the ground. based on that, i sent a letter to secretary mnuchin asking for several changes. i'm going to be going back to washington and hopefully voting on many of those changes next week. >> let's hope so. let's move to another 42,000 new jerseyans who have filed jobless claims in the last week. unemployment has soared past 15% in april. despite the numbers like that,
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you have mitch mcconnell who is promising the extended, enhanced unemployment benefits, they will not be part of the next relief bill. what do you say to that? can your unemployed constituents survive if these benefits are stripped away? >> you know, i think what people don't realize is how much these unemployment benefits are not just doing for keeping people -- families intact and safe but for the economy. as we start to open up the businesses, we need to make sure that people have the ability to spend money. that they have the ability to push money into the economy, to buy pizza on the shore or to go get a slice or to continue to shop at some of our small main street businesses. that's also what these unemployment checks do for people. i will tell you, i have been talking to a lot of our food supply, a lot of the people that go out to give food out to needy families. the amount of need in our
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district and our state has grown exponentially. making sure people just have the ability to keep food on table is also critically important. >> we have been looking. it's packed down there on what looks like a nice day. i want to talk about the flip side of the enhanced unemployment. this will be something that -- it's not long-term. it's going to end at some point. some are suggesting it's a deterrent for some to look for work. can you understand why -- that means those are families in particular, they may be getting more money right now to support them. they may be asking, why go back to work if we can get more money this way? >> i think that's a critical concern as well. this is why congress has acted quickly to get money out into our economy, to get money out into people's pockets as we go through this pandemic. we have to continue to improve upon the legislation. i'm hearing that from my small businesses as well. look, i can't get people to come
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back to work. they are scared. they are making more money on unemployment. how do we as a congress solve that? i think that's making sure we move the incentives into going back to work when that is safe and when people are able to do so. that's why we have to keep continuing to improve upon the legislation. we're not ready to stop. we're not ready to stop taking care of people. mcconnell said early on, let states and local governments go bankrupt. that's not the answer. the answer isn't to let our businesses fail or let our states and local government fail. the answer is to provide better legislation so we can succeed, so we can get through this pandemic intact and have our economy ready to resume at a normal pace. >> we have been looking at beaches as we have been speaking with you. let's listen to what governor phil murphy had to say when asked if people are following the guidelines. >> it's too early to tell. i think for most part, new jerseyans have done an
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extraordinary job following our guidelines for the most part. folks have been extraordinary in doing the right thing in the state for going on 2 1/2 plus months. i fully expect that will continue on the beaches even when mother nature begins to cooperate with good weather. >> new jersey has been one of the hot spots. do you agree with the governor? >> you know, from what i have seen, i do. i gotta tell you, it's been hard. it's been a hard couple months. we have been the hardest hit state in the nation per capita cases. we are the most densely populated state. we are a tightly knit state. we're not handshakers in my district, we're huggers. to back away from that, to follow the social distancing, to stay away electrfrom people is hard. that's why you see the success of the case numbers going down in new jersey even as they continue to rise in other parts of the country. we have just got to keep with it. when people come to me, when my
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small businesses come to me and say, we have to reopen, i get it. i get it. i think they have to have pathways to presenting a safe business plan to the governor so they can reopen. i tell them that one of the best things they can do is continue to tofollow the cdc guidelines, socially distance, wash your hands, wear a mask. the more redrwe drag cases downe more quickly we can go back to work. >> amen to that. thank you so much. a big city mayor fears a second wave. what worries him most, that's coming next. first, a closer look now at today's sobering "new york times" front page. besides listing 1,000 names of covid-19 names from across the country, they have given an interactive. it gives all of you a clearer picture of who these people were. for instance, darla aileen brown died may 11 in iowa at age 54.
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and restaurants are open. texas has the tenth highest number of covid-19 cases in the u.s. infections are on the upward trend. the reopening this weekend prompted this appeal from the mayor of dallas. >> i'm not going to waste time or energy monday morning quarterbacking what the governor decided. i'm going to caution residents again that reopening does not mean a return to normal. this is not over. >> mayor johnson of dallas is joining me again on the broadcast. it's good to see you. let's talk about the urgency of your comment there. does that mean you are concerned about a second wave? are you concerned it could even return before the fall? >> it means that we have seen good progress in the right direction with our case count, which appears to have plateaued and maybe even on the decline. it means that our hospital
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capacity appears to be stable and has not spiked in a way that would give us concern with respect to hospital capacity. but it means that we should be concerned about the threat of partisanship leading folks to not do what we need to do to continue to move in that direction. that is to wear masks. i'm concerned partisanship is turning things like wearing masks into a political issue, which is not what we need right now. we need people to continue to do what we have been doing to get to this point. we made good progress. we're moving in the right direction. i'm starting to hear more folks turn mask wearing into a political issue. it shouldn't be. it's a key part of our public health strategy going forward. >> is that your biggest concern right now? is it the politicalization of
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this? >> it's a combination of increased partisanship and decreased personal responsibility that is going to come in some cases as a result of folks just thinking, we're back to normal, the economy is open again, the weather is nice down here, it's getting warmer, we will have long holiday weekends with 4th of july coming and labor day coming, memorial day weekend this weekend. the combination of a decline in personal responsibility, which is what we are relying on for safety at this point, is for people to take this into their own hands and do the right thing and increase in partisanship, that combination worries me. that's why at every turn, people are hearing me say, the same thing over and over again, we're not out of the woods. we are in the middle of this thing. this could go the way the spanish flu of 1918 went in certain cities where they took their foot off the gas on social distancing. it spiked. a lot of people died.
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i want to avoid that. >> i will back you up with this as we look at numbers. it's from this past week. it's a study from the university of texas, southwestern medical center, which says this could jump to 800 daily deaths -- or rather cases a day. is dallas prepared for that possibility in terms of hospital beds, ventilators, all the ppe you need? >> we have the capability, hudson convention center online and ready in the event we need to turn on another 1,000 to 2,000 hospital beds if we have such a surge. i have been assured by the governor that he would be willing to send whatever we needed in terms of ventilators and help to get that capacity back up. we never want to get there. we never want to get to that point. the way we avoid getting to that point is to put the partisanship aside when it comes to mask wearing. if this virus is airborne
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droplets, then wearing a mask is a smart thing to do. it's an easy thing to do. we need to do it. we have to keep vigilant on our personal responsibility to stay at at home if we're symptomatic, avoid large gatherings an maintain our social distancing and do the things that helped us get our case count to fall. it is going down in dallas right now. we want to keep it that way. >> and the health officials are saying covid-19 surge teams to put out hot spots. we're talking about el paso, dallas-fort worth, houston, hot spots around jails and meat packing plants and the like. how effective has that been. >> we'll see how effective it is. there is a lag between taking the policy action and what you see in the case count. but ie-- but i've spoken to the governor and he's very much of the belief what is driving our cases in texas are these hot
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spots. he's very concerned about our senior living facilities, all of which have to be licensed by the state of texas so we know where all of them are. he believes that his strike team could get in there and get that situation under control by testing every single person who lives at or works in one of the facilities and concerned with meat packing plants which have a problem for us as well. 40% of the total cases in the area could be contributed to the senior facilities so i think he's right about that being a source of concern. but i don't want people to think that is the only thing that we have to be concerned about. we definitely need to do our part to keep each other safe. >> dallas mayor eric johnson, good to talk to you again. stay safe, thank you. a small town in an entire industry are being jeopardized by the pandemic and actions by the white house. a cry for help next. help next. who trust in our performance and comfortable, long-lasting protection. because your strength is supported by ours.
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plants here to completely go dark for the season. only three are operational right now with enough workers and this causing a chain reaction throughout the entire state of maryland from the restaurants to the grocery stores who rely on this crabbing industry. i spoke with some of the main benefactors and owners in the industry to hear about the impacts it is having on businesses and the community at large. take a listen to what they told me. >> our production is down about a third due to not being able to bring our workers in because of the station and the disease. s it very bad. >> it is a network of economy and jobs here and rural coastal america that is in jeopardy. >> we'll get through the pandemic but we don't know if our businesses will be here. >> we're at the breaking point now. this is the middle of the crab season and we're not producing now at all. >> so your plant is completely -- >> we are shuttered.
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we have nothing going on at all. >> reporter: so, alex, as you heard the processors could not accommodate and it is losses for the entire state up to $150 million for the state of maryland and potential losses due to this industry and not having these h 2b visas. they are asking president trump to eliminate the cap to allow those workers to come into the country. >> we'll see if that happens. amanda golden, thank you so much. countless americans are heading to the beach this holiday weekend and the big question is will they be risking their lives? r lives? thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- metastatic breast cancer, as the first hormonal based therapy.
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. >> day from msnbc world headquarters in north korea welcome to weekends with alex witt. we're approaching 10:00 a.m. out west and 1:00 p.m. in the east. as we get to the facts. the u.s. death toll is approaching 100,000 and a stunning tribute on the front page of the "new york times" naming 1,000 victims of the pandemic and explaining the 1,000 people here reflect just 1% of the toll. north carolina reported its highest one-day spike in new coronavirus cases on saturday with 1107 new infection as cording to the north carolina department of health and human services just a day after the state entered phase two of the reopening which includes
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expanding restaurant capacity to 50% and reopening camps for children. meanwhile people across the country are flocking to the beaches for the holiday weekend as we give you a live look at myrtle beach, south carolina. thousands of beach-goers hitting the sand as tourism have resumed for memorial day. hotels are expected 75% to 100% occupancy while social distancing and personal hygiene guidelines remain in place. and this memorial day weekend arlington national cemetery will remain closed to the public. it will only be open to people visiting loved one's graves. visitors are still required to wear a mask and maintain six feet of distance when possible. that famous memorial amphitheater will be closed for the first time to the public in a century. so we have a team of reporters and analysts following the latest. thank you so much. we begin with the president who is out golfing for the second
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day in a row sparking criticism as the u.s. inches toward a grim covid-19 milestone. to monica alba at the white house with more on this. there is criticism out there so i would love to expand on that and tell us what else is on the president's agenda this hold weekend. >> reporter: that is right. we have heard now from the president's general election opponent former vice president joe biden and his campaign who are out with a new ad slamming the president for visiting his virginia golf course as we do near that milestone of nearly 100,000 deaths in this country from coronavirus. and just as the president was arriving there in sterling, virginia, so that he could golf he issued a tweet saying that cases and deaths in number in general are down around the country and while that is true in some places it is certainly not across the board as we see those deaths continue and there are certain states where they're fearing an uncounted and
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unexpected rise in cases in the coming weeks. it is too soon to say that is the case across the board. but the other thing that we're tracking today which is significant is you have adviser robert o'brien out on the morning show saying he still anticipated that the leaders of the group of seven will be coming to the washington area as the u.s. is set to host that meeting which had been moved to video conference but this is a shift after the president has now asked for it to be in person. listen to what o'brien had to say about that this morning. >> well, the g-7 summit, if it happens in person and we think it will it will take place at the end of june so we're close to the peak if not already the peak in washington and if the situation permits it and we think it will, we would love to have the g-7 in person and i think they would love to meet in person and not do the video conference and so far after the invitation we've had a great response. >> reporter: the g7 was going to take place at camp david but
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likely the leaders will come to the white house and there may be a split between the two place ang the schedule may be different from the large summits but behind that the question of when washington will reach its peak, you saw dr. deborah birx on friday warning that the d.c. metro area had the highest cases of positive virus tests. so that is something to track in the coming weeks. but if that does take place by the end of june it may be a different picture. and stephen hahn said today that coronavirus is not yet contained, alex. >> that is correct. thank you for that. despite the appeals for social distancing during this holiday weekend there are a lot of people not heeding the warnings. crowds from california to new york. let's go to cory coughlin joining us from coney island, new york. yesterday was one thing, bad weather with rain and you brought our your umbrella but not so much today. right? it is a little bit nicer? >> reporter: we're starting to
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see peeks of sunshine coming out so you know the crowds will come out more this afternoon, alex. by enlarge it is a peaceful morning. we have nathan's open and the wonder wheel which turns 100 this year, celebrated in 2020 still not open yet. locals hoping that it will open at some point. we have a lot of police presence out here and of course they're quite peaceful when it comes to talking with people trying to pass out masks and you might be surprised to learn there are more people on the boardwalk now than there are on the actual beach. and of course that was because of the warnings of not being able to swim and just having to be very, very careful when beach-going. the boardwalk is good for walking. i chatted with people today about coming out today. here is what they had to say. >> it is nice. it is peaceful. it is kind of just nice. it is just a nice day. got to get out. i have the cabin fever. >> we barely stroll baby out and
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she's half a year out and we want to expose her to the nature and the ocean so we decided to drive here today. ♪ [ singing ] >> i want to have some encouraging news with my music. make feel good. >> reporter: all right, let's head to myrtle beach whereas you saw earlier sunshine and relaxed restrictions drew the crowds there. in manhattan beach, california, leaders declaring open for business despite state orders for curb side pickup only there. and in the ozarks, a packed pool party and hundreds people with no social distancing and no masks coming as the cases continue to rise in parts of the u.s. and this cover from "the new york times," the front cover dedicated entirely to the victims of this virus. 1,000 names. and that is just one-one
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hundredths of the toll as we inch toward 100,000 lives lost. it is a grim number but a sobering and important reminder on this memorial day weekend. of course back here out at coney island, flags flying at half staff as the president has ordered in remembrance of all of the victims of this pandemic globally. so even though we have crowds coming out and people getting some fresh air and much needed outside of their homes, it is still a day of reflection and a weekend of remembrance. alex. >> cory, thank you. you mentioned manhattan beach and we'll be going there but first to virginia. where beaches are reopen for the holiday while others remain closed. local officials at virginia beach had to present a fully developed plan in order to get the green light from governor northam to open up. deepa shivarn is live at the beach. so do you see evidence of the plan working? are people out there playing by the rules like you are?
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>> reporter: alex, it is not exactly beach day weather here. it is windy and cloudy. there is not a sight of sunshine anywhere. so overall people have been respecting the rules out on the beach. just generally it is empty. but that is also in part from the strict rules that the governor and the virginia beach officials here have put in place. 50% capacity only in parking garages. no groups allowed besides ten people. out here on the beach, no umbrellas, no alcohol. it is really just for exercising and for sun bathing if there was sun out here. so generally speaking folks are social distancing here on the boardwalk. it is touch and go. some people are mayori -- are wearing masks and as people talk stock of virginia slowly starting to reopen with the rules in place, people have been respectful so far and i think the governor is trying to take
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this one step as a time as virginia gets closer and closer to opening beaches like others in the state. >> thank you for that from virginia beach. now to california with gadi schwartz is joining us from manhattan beach. my old stomping grounds and i lived there for a while and it is a lot of fun. >> reporter: a beautiful place. >> it is so great. i'll tell you my address later. it w it was obnoxious out of college. so people are being told if they do go out, got to wear a mark and continue social distancing but is that what you're seeing there? >> reporter: yeah, so, l.a. county and the city of l.a. is one of the places with the most restrictions right now. manhattan beach, it is a little bit of a different story in terms of practical. this is the iconic pier and the oath one not wearing a mask is out there in the waves and
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someone that is 2 years old or a medical need to not wear a mask. most of the people on the beach and this is just a small segment, it stretches down, most of the people on the beach do not have masks even though thos a requirement. they just opened this bike path and walking path. most people here also not wearing masks. it is about 60/40. however this is now manhattan beach the city proper so the rules are a little bit different when it comes to manhattan beach. in the city masks are recommended, especially when you are six feet away from somebody. they are required inside of stores but not so much when you are outside. so we're joining now by the mayor pro tempore susan hadley. could you tell us about the difference between the beach over there where masks are required and manhattan beach city here. >> correct. manhattan beach has stuck closely to the l.a. county health protocol where masks are
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strongly encouraged outside of your home and required in places of business like target and ralph's but in the city streets and downtown at the beach they are not required in the city of manhattan beach. >> reporter: talk about those stories. for a long time the essential stores with a target a mile away and costco, those places have been open for quite sometime and a lot of the stores that make up manhattan beach proper that have been closed. it appears as though some of the stores are open this weekend. what is going on there. >> yes. it is fantastic. last week our city council voted unanimously to sent a letter to council member hahn and governor newsom begging to operate under the same health protocols that the big box stores are opening under with social distancing required inside and mask required inside. janice hahn heard us loud and clear and catherine barger from
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the county board of supervisors. >> so the county supervisors are in support of what you're asking for but did you hear back from the state at all? >> i'm not sure we've heard back officially from state. but on tuesday the county board of supervisors is taking that united message to the governor and saying, hey, l.a. county is not a monolith and it is a giant county and surely some smaller cities could open under the same health protocols that some of the bigger essential businesses are operating under. >> reporter: tuesday seems late when it comes to memorial day weekend and the amount of business you see here. >> correct. that is why we're thrilled that the smaller businesses chose on their own to reopen safely the same health protocols that costco and the grocery stores and target are opening up and we have seemed to have the full support of janice hahn our supervisor. >> mayor pro tempore, thank you for your time. so everything on paper looking different than the application when it comes to making sure
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everybody out here is wearing masks an making sure that all of the different businesses are in the same exact compliance as the state. alex. >> listen, were it not for my next guest i would stay with you, thank you from manhattan beach, california. but joining me now is julian castro, former housing secretary under president obama and a former 2020 presidential candidate. awfully good to see you. i suspect you would have liked to be in manhattan beach as well. it looked good out there. but let's start by listening together to what the trump administration said about the coronavirus this morning. really laying blame with china. >> we're dealing in a new world now with corona. they unleashed a virus on the world that destroyed trillions of dollars in american economic wealth. the cover-up they did of the virus is going to go down in history with chernobyl and we'll see an hbo special about it 10 or 15 years from now so we're in a different place with china.
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>> everything other than the hbo expectations, what is your interpretation of what he said? >> well, that the trump administration and this president is looking for any way that they can distract americans from the fact that at the very moment when we needed strong leadership, when we needed a president and administration that was prepared to keep americans safe, trump and his administration failed. and they failed spectacularly. to look at "the new york times" cover today, to think that we're closing in on 100,000 deaths in this country, so many of those deaths that did not have to happen that happened because this administration was unprepared. and so they could try and blame other countries, they could, you know, talk about anything they want, what they can't do is avoid the fact that they were unprepared and because of that so many americans have died.
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it is a complete failure. i agree with those that said this is the worst failures in the history of our country. >> could i show people quickly, i'll show people our director, but you've seen the front page and it has a graphic of that and it continues another two, three, full pages of names here in "the new york times." it is absolutely daunting. it is overwhelming actually to take it all in and it is pretty painful to read these absolutely beautiful profiles in brief of these people. let's move to texas, though. of course your state. which has just entered phase two of the reopening on friday. you have bars, bowling alleys, all among the latest businesses to open doors. restaurants also now allowed to host more people than they have been, now 50% capacity. but there is a new model i'm sure you're aware of by the children's hospital of philadelphia suggesting that dallas and houston and a few other places across the south
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reopening the economies that it puts them in danger of a second wave of coronavirus. julian, how about you, what are you seeing and what is your reaction to this? >> well, look, just like the trump administration has failed americans in so many ways, the abbott administration here in texas is failing texans and doing that because this governor reopened the state without the two things that medical experts tell us we absolutely need in order to safely reopen. number one, that you need good testing, strong testing, robust testing and robust contact tracing. when we started to reopen, texas was 48 per capita in the terms of the numbers of tests and it was revealed the other day that the state government was mixing tests with antibodies for tests for detecting the virus so those numbers were bogus. in addition to that, that contact tracing regime has not been put in place even as communities across state have
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reopened. and so there are people out there that are being subjected to unnecessary risk because greg abbott and his administration want to appease the far right wing base that animate the political sport. >> let's talk about the new poll that shows a pretty dramatic impact that this pandemic is having on latinos in the united states. it is a poll done for u.s. and move on in which 41% of latinos are having a hard time paying basic monthly expenses. you see nearly half of latino small business owners say they've had trouble getting a loan to get through this and then 60% of latino households report either a job loss or at least pay cuts. how about the impacts that you're seeing where you are. >> well, you know, i live in san antonio community that is over60% latino. it is true that some so many ways during this pandemic the latino community has had the worst of all worlds.
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on the one hand you have, i think i saw a figure of 84% of latino workers cannot do their work remotely so many have been in front line jobs, whether farm workers, meat packing plants, grocery store and fast food worke workers subjecting themselves to greater risk of getting the virus but the latino community has low access to health care and good health care compared to other communities and many of those jobs that i just mentioned that they work in are low-paying jobs and low-benefit jobs and they have been for a long time. so i feel like coming out of this experience, this should be an exclamation point on the fact that we need to take better care of the workers and make investments in ensuring that people get good pay, good health care and good benefits going forward. >>, your the perfect person to ask about the potential housing crisis that is brewing as many
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struggle to pay rent. you have landlords and homeowners working about foreclosure and i know you spoke with jen and you were highlighting this issue. is there any way to stop this from becoming a massive disaster. if you were still hud secretary, what would you do. >> the number one thing i would do is i would demand from congress a big investment in direct rental assistance. last month we had 8 million people who did not pay their rent. not because they didn't want to or because they're irresponsible but because we've had 38 million people filed for unemployment, they're out of a job and they can't. so you need to put in place eviction moratoriums in addition to direct rental assistance and also be mindful of the fact that many of the landlords are small mom and pop landlords, have a component of a program that takes care of them but ensures that people could stay in place and they could have the safety
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and the security of a home because we know that having a safe, stable place to live is the most important thing for everything else in life. >> it is very important to have your voice added to this conversation, julian castro, thank you so much. the potential perils of going to beach. how to play it safe in the surf and sun. before we go to break, a look at front page of the "new york times." besides listing the thousand names of those that died of covid-19, it is interactive and gives you a picture of who the victims were. mary pino was 67-year-olds old when he she died in albuquerque, new mexico, and sler son died of covid-19 in april and she had to endure that heartache before she passed. and there is oscar lopez acosta, who was 4-years old when he died on mother's day in idaho -- rather ohio. he died days after being
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as states across the country ease restrictions, many people are just itching to get back to normal activities but with thousands flocking to beach for memorial day weekend, is it safe to be on a crowded beach or maybe even a newly opened restaurant. joining me now, dr. lippy roy, physician and msnbc contributor and dr. asheesh jaw and professor from the hard school of public health. welcome to you both. we'll talk about practical stuff. i want to talk about beaches first with you dr. roy, how much risk is there for people who want to enjoy the beach and what are the best recaution -- precautions to take. and no one wants to get a mask tan, right so we haven't seen people wearing masks at the
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beach. >> i understand the urge to get outside and enjoy the sunshine and i think that is a good idea. it is okay to be outside and get the fresh air and sunshine and it is helpful to our emotional and mental health but to do so safely. it is possible to go outside during this memorial day weekend but make sure you maintain that physical distance and cover your face. i appreciate the concern about the tan line but honestly way the pros and cons here. do you want a tan line that is temporary on your face or be in the icu being ventilated, right. >> you could look at this picture and steve thanks for keeping it up, look at the line of umbrellas, they are right next to each other and doesn't look like six feet of distance but you could mang the people are congregating together are family and friends and quarentining together and so they think they are past any viral incubation period, is that okay, what we're seeing there on
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the beach in myrtle beach? >> honestly, alex, there are groups that are self-quarantining but you could tell by the mass of people, how about when they go to get food and get towels, you're going to be congregating so unless they could maintain that six feet distance they are at risk for getting viral transmission. >> bars and restaurants to that with you dr. jaw as they are starting to open up around the country. who would you say to somebody who wants to go back to the favorite neighborhood haunt. is social distancing and wearing face masks enough in the enclosed spaces? >> yes, so i think i get the desire to go back out to bars and restaurants. outdoor places are much, much safer. so if your restaurant has outdoor seating, that is much better. obviously people are not going to be able to wear masks inside when they are eating and drinking. i think indoor spaces are pretty
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tough right now and if a restaurant has great ventilation and open up windows and seat people apart, that is much safer. there is no perfect safeness -- it is just an issue of mitigating risks and anything to lower the risks is very important. >> dr. jaw, does that extend to indoor malls as they reopen slowly. they're a lot bigger than the space of a ira-- than a restaur and that picture there, that is tough to keep 100% clean and yet we have the guidance that maybe surface concerns are not something that need to be top of our list right now. how do you weigh in on all of that? >> yeah, so, again, malls i think are safer than restaurants. think of it this way, anything more enclosed that brings people more physically together is riskier. so malls are better in that way. if you could wear -- you should be wearing a mask inside of the mall. keeping six feet apart from each other and the mall owners have
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to sure they're doing a good job of vent lation and all of that lowers the risk of being inside of a small. >> dr. roy, for the parents out there, certainly it was originally thought that the coronavirus was less of a rick to children. but now we know that may not be the case. so how comfortable should parents be about taking kids to a playground. >> alex, that is a great question and yet parents should be concerned because to your point children are not immune to this illness. again, they're still at much lower risk and we're seeing the infection and illness far less in kids but you know again it is important to go outside and get that fresh air. it is hard for children, though, to maintain a physical distance. so maybe trying to go to parks where there is very few other children there at the same time and doing a good job washing their hands, the kids' hands and
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making sure everyone is wearing a mask. but again doing your best to keep the physical distance between the children who i love kids but they are vectors for disease. >> and keep that sanitizing gel in your purse for sure. doctors roy and jaw, thank you so much. we look forward to seeing you both again. in a moment. reaction from charle main the god and reverend sharpton will way in with his thoughts on that controversy. on that controversy. a lot of folks ask me why their dishwasher doesn't get everything clean. i tell them, it may be your detergent... that's why more dishwasher brands recommend cascade platinum... ...with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in. for sparkling-clean dishes, the first time. cascade platinum.
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. my colleague will talk about the growing partisan divide over wearing a mask in public. how it became a political issue and the president's role in that debate. that is coming your way at 2:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. now to the latest facts on coronavirus pandemic. in wilmington, north carolina, where beaches are open.
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limiting outdoor gatherings to 25 people. the president trump and first lady are set to visit baltimore's historic slooihrine the mayor said trump should stay away. >> this president knows better. he knows that he's sending the wrong signal and the wrong message and he's dividing in thnation as it relates to people wanting could tom out during this pandemic and until we are able to test and get the curve going down, i think the president should stay home and honor our brave men and women in the white house. >> while the government is expected to announce a ban on travel from brazil as coronavirus cases in that country surpass 340,000, it is the second highest in the world behind the u.s. national security adviser robert o'brien said ted he expects a
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ban is temporary. two professional sports leagues are eyeing potential plan to resume. the nhl players association approved the 2014 playoff format to resume the season and determine the winner of the 2020 stanley cup. the next step is to negotiate a timeline. and the nba is in talks with walt disney about continuing its 2020 season and the location the wild world complex in florida that could start back up in july. and new jersey beaches that are open for memorial day weekend but be ready for tough restrictions. my colleague lindsay riser is on the shore in sea bright for us. what are you seeing from the bea beach-goers, are they wearing masks and i guess the weather helping things today. >> reporter: we're not seeing the types of crowds you're showing in your show today. the weather could be to blame. it is chilly and overcast. but still people are maintaining
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social distance. you are hard-pressed to find a mask but i talked to the beach operations manager and his priority is to make sure people are only coming out with members of a family unit and keeping social distance. and people are set up far away from each other so that is a good thing. and the beach never closed during the candidate. they believed that keeping it open was important for the mental health of the community but they've closed the boardwalk for example and limiting parking to try to limit crowds. now something really interesting is they've completely sold out of their summer passes. normally they might sell about 4,000, they've sold about 4,700 and had to stop selling them. there is no other entertainment for families so everybody is scrambling to come to the beach but they are still saying day passes at this table at the bottom of the stairs. we had a wave there from one of the workers. how are you doing? and they're take that away if the crowds become too much. but i talked to the beach
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operations manager and the mayor about maintaining the fabric of the quaint beach town in new jersey. i think i botched that but i think they'll forgive me for this pandemic when everything is shut down. >> we've done a great job of rebuilding after superstorm sandy. a lot of small businesses have been here for a number of years and they're life blood is basically during the summer season so we want to make sure that we do everything that we can to support them. >> it is slow for the businesses and most have adapted for ta takeout and through the summer, we didn't know which way it could go. >> reporter: the best little beach town there. i got the slogan right. and i spoke with the business owner who ownez alice's kitchen and she was lamenting the weather and hoping it would be a better weather day so more people could do takeout and next
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week hoping the governor will allow them to do out door seating. >> thank you for that. now to new reaction to joe biden's comment on the breakfast club and the host spoke about biden's apology today with my colleague joy reid. here is that. >> what are people telling you that they want him to do? >> just really major policy commitments for the black community. mainly in the form of economic justice so we can tip the scales on some of the wealth inequality in america. i do hear a lot of people say we want him a black woman running mate. i don't care about the lip service and the apology but the best apology is a black agenda. >> joining me now another colleague, reverend al sharpton and host of politics nation here on nbc on today. we were on with charlamagne tha
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god and he said that the most important thing to the african-american community is getting good policy in state and said to joy, this policy is cool but what he wants is action. is that what you think will be the most effective thing to get the black community in general lind joe biden and get the energy that he needed to take over donald trump in that section of the vote? >> absolutely. and i think that it is not just charlamagne and other saying it. all of us have been saying this. and there is a historic root here of saying that the democratic party needs to address the concerns of the black community that has overwhelmingly given its support. that is why you had jesse jackson running in the '80s when the democratic party started going with the democratic leadership council and acting as if they were republicans. that is why i ran in '04 saying
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they were running around with elephants with dungaree jackets on. so joe biden has inherited a party that has always enjoyed big support but never specifically addressed our concerns. he's come out with a document, lift every voice, 22 pages, he said it a living document. well he ought to have all of those concerns that -- and those that are concerned add to that document which is how he should have responded rather than an inappropriate way to charlamagne the god and those throughout this nominating process. >> do you get the sense that bidens defenders are worried about this, all of the fallout from it and what do you think would be the most troubling aspect of it. >> i think that their concern and i have simone sanders on today on politics nation and the concern is turnout. if you study the 2016 race, turnout was a problem that could
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have -- well the fact that there could have been more of a turnout in michigan michigan and wisconsin was a concern in leading to the defeat of hillary clinton but the other concern is turnout given the voter suppression, the things that we're seeing now and we may end up with a maryland election in november if there is a second pandemic and people purged from the rolls, seeing a lot of gerrymandering so there are concerns that any one of these things could be something that could be decisive if you have a lot of suppression of our vote and it ends up a close vote. >> charlamagne said he does hear a lot of people say they want biden to have a black female running mate there. i'm curious in the long run, the sense of how this affects biden, does he get past this and do you think there is a wider feeling that there is discontent there?
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>> i raised early that i would like to see a black woman vice presidential candidate. i think we have ferrera in the '80s and republicans give us sarah palin. we never had a black woman on the ticket and there are qualified women and i raised this to biden and he said on poels nation there are more than one black women on the list that they're looking at. i think a lot of it is they're saying this is a time in history that we need to do something bold and it would energize a turnout and energize a vote. he has said specifically, he, joe biden, he would put a black women on the supreme court. he has not said a black woman, he said a woman on the ticket and if it is kamala harris, if it is val demings, or stacey abrams, any of them are qualified to be vice president. >> even the mayor of atlanta.
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>> more than qualified. >> yeah that have been talked about for that. if he does not, though, select a black female, do you worry, again, about apathy, and do you think that would generate a certain amount of enthusiasm and get the black community out po the polls in greater numbers? would that do it? >> i think it is according to who he selects. just like i think he couldn't just select any back woman. whoever he selects is determined by who they are and how they stand up in terms of policy and background. i think that he's advantaged politically and those of us that want to see certain things happen different in this country is to choose a qualified black woman. but if he does not, we have to see who it is and what they bring to the table and what the agenda is. and his whole fight between progressives and including the black agenda and the podder a--
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the moderates is a fight we continue to have that we need to resolve if they're going to be victorious in the senate and congressional races and the presidential race this year. >> could i say you get my vote every single time, rev. thank you so much. and catch reverend sharpton tote at 5:00 eastern and every saturday and sunday at that time here on msnbc. and as the rev said he'll talk with symone sanders on the show in a couple of hours. president trump push for normalcy even close to 100,000 lives lost and the long-lasting impact that could have in november. november or fast the way it works best for you. even the big stuff. you get a delivery experience you can always count on. you get your perfect find at a price to match on your schedule. you get free two day shipping on things that make your home feel like you!
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as though the actual number now approaching six digits is not stark enough to send a chill through the spine of a nation, this morning it arrived on doorsteps in black and white. on the front page of the "new york times," with names piled one on top of another, in row after row and not just one page, several pages. a thousand names, victims of this unforgiving pandemic. you see the headline and imagine it is a bad dream but it is more real than the 1,000 names, it is one hundred times more real. and while is might be an uneasy juxtaposition for some it is equally real the president's second day of golf as this country staggers through some of the darkest days. with me now, jonathan la meyer from the associates press and peter baker correspondent from
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"the new york times" and both we're happy to say msnbc political analyst. peter, what do you think was behind "the new york times" decision to feature the front page in this powerful way and the purpose of doing so? >> well, i think the ideas was to bring home to people how staggering this toll really is. we talk about it in clinical terms, the toll is 97,000 or 98,000 but that real people and families that are suffering as a result of the loss of their loved ones and we want to bring that home as personals away as possible at the same time getting the staggering number across. so each one of the little tiny mentions of people on the front page include a small snippet about them, what they like to cook, what they did for a living, what they did for the family, that kind of thing, to
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bring home in a human way the toll of this coronavirus. this is just 12 weeks we've seen 100,000 die in this country. 12 weeks. more than america lost in the vietnam and korean wars combined so the paper was trying to find a way to graphically bring that home in a powerful way. >> i have to say, i heard our colleague jonathan this morning calling them profiles in brief and i've boried that from you, jonathan, but one more question to you, peter, you have the images of the president golfing. you recall in 2014 trump has criticized former president barack obama for golfing after a second confirmed case of ebola was reported in the united states. a second confirmed case. so what message is trump sending here, peter? >> yeah, repeatedly in fact he criticized president obama for counting, i think 27 times. and golfing is a problematic thing for a president any time because they could be criticized
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for taking time off at a moment of importance but it is particularly stark now given, a., this president has criticized his predecessor for doing the same thing, and b., the death toll is so stunningly huge. but the message he's trying to convey is not tragedy but recovery. he's trying to say, okay we're going to move on and reopen as a country and the image he wants to be seen is country coming back out of its shell to restore semblance of daily life, to restore the economy so important to his political career and important to the country as well. so it is i think politically risky for him to do this because it does send messaging you wouldn't want to send which is seemingly indifferent to the death toll. but i think the strong message he's trying to send is moving ahead. >> so jonathan, the president has often been cited for a lack of empathy, having a short attention span but as you aptly
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describe the profiles in "the new york times," do you think if the president were handed this newspaper, a hard copy that he would look through, what would the reaction be? what would you expect given the fact that you cover him? how would you expect him to react? >> it is hard to know exactly. but you are certainly right, that empathy is not his strong suit. and the answer might be he would turn the page, both literally and figuratively. and kudos to "the new york times" for the powerful display and what is striking is that the front page is filled with names and that is only 1,000 names. there would have no be another hundred odd pages to fill everyone else who died from the pandemic in the u.s. alone and that number only going to grow. the president is trying to shift the focus away from the public health crisis and on to the economy. that's as peter said why he is
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golfing and traveling to battleground states and highway moz trips in the weeks ahead including one to florida, in this week, a vital state to his november re-election hopes. so that is where he is right now. as he's trying to nudge these governors, sometimes with very harsh words, particularly for democratic governors like the one in michigan we heard this week to try to get economies going again. that is what his focus is and frankly his press briefings and his statements have about the pandemic rarely included much in the way of tributes to those who have died and it took until this weekend that 100,000 mark on the horizon before he ordered the flags, the white house and the federal buildings to be lowers to half staff. >> among those who died, a friend of his here in new york city as well. a bit earlier today the president falsely stated in a
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tweet covid-19 deaths are going down all over the country. why the false narrative after it was conceded today that it is not yet contained. >> it is simply not true. there have been reductions in certain areas, the new york metro area in particular but we're seeing disturbing rising across other parts of the country and there is a fear as the weather gets better and we see social distancing break down there could be more outbreaks horizon over the next few weeks and that is setting aside what all medical health experts believe will be another wave, especially a deadly one this fall. that is part of the president's attempt to shift blame, distract and change the story because of his glass half full nature. he's always been this. he has described himself as a cheerleader for the country and for its economy and that is not all bad. there is something to be said for that for a president to rally the nation but a president needs to speak the truth. the president needs to be able to trust that the public could handle the truth even when it is
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hard and difficult and he doesn't want to do that and so eager he's downplaying the threat that still exists. >> guys, good to speak with both of you. both of you. thank you. why a reopening for beach communities may not be enough to save their struggling business. that's coming next. but now we pay tribute to american heroes during these tough times. an artist in medina, minnesota, is creating personalized thank you hearts to give to health care workers. she makes them of glass and creates a limestone base and then tops it off with a note. >> this has affected everybody. everyone knows someone in the health care industry, neighbor, friend, family. to be able to give them as a gift and keep the gift that keeps giving, which is the donation piece. >> she says people from across this country have asked her to make them a special personalized thank you heart n. return, she asks them to make a donation to the american nurses foundation. it's her mission to honor toes on the front lines of a battle
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mail, people should not have to choose between their health and participating in democracy. . small businesses along the jersey shore are bracing for an economic hit in what is traditionally a lucrative memorial day weekend. nbc's mora barrett joining us from wildwood, new jersey, and she's been talking to business owners there. any good news from them, mora? >> reporter: unfortunately not, alex. the state's unemployment rate sits above 15% right now, and that does factor in the seasonal workers employed at restaurants and retail shops. but what those workers need to get back to work is customers to come. there's an empty boardwalk behind me. it's an dismal day here in the wildwood. when i talked to the director of tourism, he emphasized tourism is the main industry this community, all the communities along the coast need to survive. he said business owners are really hanging on by at a
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thread. when they aubd the new normal, he said, i'm not even sure what that looks like because they're holding on to the hope that as the weather gets nicer and the new practice of social distancing, wearing masks, gets into normal practice for im, they can maybe get back to normal business at the end of june going into july and august. but he said that basically things aren't going to look like a normal summer for business owners or beachgoers until probably summer of 2021. >> oh, boy, that's going to be a if new normal, for sure. i'm alex witt. thanks for watching. alicia men den des with will talk about it became a partisan debate coming up of the top of the hour. come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card.
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. hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. hope you're enjoying your memorial day weekend. thousands are using the holiday to get out and about. some are hitting the beach as more states relax their restrictions. but there are still concerns that the shift toward reopening could bring new outbreaks of the coronavirus. this memorial day weekend "the new york times" issued a memorial of its own and a stunning reminder of what is at stake. the "times" posting the names of 1,000 victims of covid-19 on the cover. a mere 1% of the
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