hello, everyone. i'm chris jansing. thank you for joining us here on msnbc. on this memorial day weekend, we have got some breaking news as the white house announces new travel restrictions for people coming to the u.s. from brazil after a surge in infections there. we are going to have a live report on that in a minute. the news coming each as it is largely back to prepandemic business as usual for the president. president trump playing golf today for the second straight

day at his club in virginia. and also making time to tweet out the dubious claim that the number of coronavirus cases and deaths are going down all over the country. simply not the case. we are watching the divisions in our country play out vividly in real time. on one hand there is search for meaning. the johns hopkins dashboard that keeps track of the number of cases and deaths from covid is now getting 4 billion hits a day, 4 billion. and today's "new york times" front page getting a lot of attention, filled with victims' names and lines from their obituaries. i will be talking with the national editor of the times just a little bit later on. while many mourn and exercise caution, others are clearly following the president's lead, not wearing recommended masks, crowded beaches can be seen all across the country. and take a look at this scene from missouri. a very crowded pool party. not exactly the picture of social distancing.

even as the president's own fda commissioner issues a warning saying that the virus is not contained. all of which brings us to our breaking news out of the white house about more travel restrictions. let's go to nbc's man ka alba. what's the latest. >> that's right. chris, this is something that the white house was hinting at but making official that the president is taking action to suspend travel from non-u.s. citizens who had been in brazil in 14-day periods either before trying to enter the united states or before may 28th when this actually takes effect later this we can. i want to read to you from the president's crow clamation. he says in part i have determine it's the in the interesting of the united states to restrict and suspend entry into the u.s. as immigrants or non-immigrants all who were present in brazil

14 days proceeding the entry into the u.s. we saw this with travel from chain and many our countries in march as the pandemic it self continues. earlier today, robert o'brien told me they will continue to evaluate other conditions on a case by case basis to see if they will have to add others to the list. brazil climbed in recent days. it is now the second highest country with the most cases in the world. that spike so alarmed officials here in the united states they decided to take action quite soon. as to whether it will apply to other latin american countries or countries in the southern hemisphere as the weather patterns shift that will be seen and evaluated in the come days. >> nbc's monica alba at the house with the breaking news for us. thanks. back in this country, what we are seeing is the virus causing a political divide. let's begin with the politics of the pandemic emanating from the white house. let me bring in my panel, robert costa, national political reporter for the "washington

post." former rnc chairman, michael steele. and dr. amesh adalia, senior scholar at the john hopkins center for health security. good to see all of you. the clear message from the president is that the country has to get back open. he signalled it not wearing a mask at the ford plant earlier in the week. not social distancing this weekend at the golf course. we saw him shaking hands and being closer to people than it would seem to be indicated by the cdc regulations. robert, politically, what's his calculation here? >> chris, you mentioned the cdc. that has been a tension point inside of the west wing for weeks while dr. redfield has worked closely with top administration officials the cdc's office in atlanta and elsewhere have been seen as a group not in lock step with the president's own strategy. it comes down to this broader story about this pandemic, about how experts and scientists often feel inside this administration

that they are at odds with president trump in terms of the guidance they want to issue, and the scope. >> michael, the president's behavior has exposed the divide he has not just with democrats, which i guess, you know, we have seen all along, but governors in his own party who are essentially urging people to do not what the president is doing. and i want to take a listen to a sampling from both sides. >> this is not about politics. this is to the about whether you are liberal or conservative, left or right, republican, democratic. we wear the mask. and it has been very clear what the studies have shown. you wear the mask not to protect yours so much as to broke others. >> it is dishartening, whether it is the mask or the thing he says in the dily briefings is sending the message explicitly or implicitly that he doesn't believe the scientists. >> if someone is wearing a mask

they are not doing it to represent what political party they are in or what candidates they support. they might be doing it because they have a 5-year-old child who has been going through cancer treatments. >> why, michael, do you think the president continues to fight so many people on masks. we heard he said he doesn't like the i with a he looks in masks. it might make him look weak. a picture got out of him wearing a mask. the world didn't come to an end. there seems to be a disconnect between what we are hearing from governors. what we are seeing on the the front page of the naims, on the number of people checking multiple time a day on what the death count is. what's going on here? >> two things that you have to grapple with. first is donald trump's perception of all of this and how it impacts him and what he believes it says about him. so not wearing a mask, you know, sort of beating his chest saying i'm not sick -- i have got all

of these people around me what may be sick, that goes to a mayor i have the of success. wearing a mask is a narrative of failure, there is something wrong, this is really more serious than maybe perhaps i have been saying. the other reality that we all have to grapple with is the reality, what's on the ground, what is truth? the numbers don't lie. governors know this. so whether it is governor dewine of ohio or governor hogan of maryland, both republican governors they have to be concerned about and care about the outcome on behalf of their people. so there is these two competing interests that really shouldn't be in competition with each other. they should be aligned. the way they have typically been aligned in past pandemics and other national crises is by the president himself. that's not what's played out here. to robert's earlier point, there is this friction that the

president himself creates that puts a lot of downward pressure on doctors, the medical professionals, the political professionals who have to govern during this time and have to sort of navigate the space in a way that they don't want to be on the wrong side of the president. we have seen that in these hearings -- i mean these briefings and we have seen it with governors who try to you know walk this tightrope. but truth is you have to deal with the reality this pandemic and the president hasn't had to do that because he doesn't want to. >> so you have if issue of the masks, resident. you have the golfing. from a president who we all know -- i don't need to put him up there, or read them, repeatedly tweeted during the time that president obama was president criticizing him for going golfing. then you have a great article by your colleague ashley parker on the president's overall strategy. and it says, in part, trump's moves in recent days make clear that the president has desided

to revive the disruptive themes of his 2016 aimed at rending his opponent as a corrupt member of the washington establishment and himself as an insurgent problem solver. and this aggressive strategy was perfectly on display. he is lobbing twitter bombs against jeff sessions today. the muller report also comes up on his twitter feed. why the old playbook, robert? >> you look at who the president played golf with earlier today. david bossie a longtime republican political strategist who was manager in his 2016, you see trump in 2020 returning to the ethos, the approach he took in 2016, which is combative as ever and his allies, his own staff, such as kalyleigh mcenan

clashing with reporters, it is the 2016 no holds barred burn it all down political strategy and there are some republicans i am talking to-capitol hill who say they would like to see a more somber approach with the death toll being what it is, a serious approach but they are not hearing that from the white house. and they are worried about not only the president's re-election but the chances of holding onto the senate majority or gaining the house majority. >> the president says the economic recovery is going to overshadow the virus even though a poll shows that 0% of voters disapprove of trump's handling it. will it be about the economy as the "wall street journal" frames it? >> it is going to be about how you managed not just coronavirus, but how you managed the economy on the other side of that virus. and so that's why you have a lot of pressure being placed on the

system by the president wanting to reopen, wanting to get back to a status quo ante, if you will, a space where life was great, the stock market was up, there was cash flowing and all of these good things that the president was prepared to take to the nation in september and october. the reality now is very different. and it goes back to the earlier point where in his reality the narrative around the economy is key. it's essential to the re-election effort. but the coronavirus reality is that you cannot have people dead and dying in september and october. and so you still have to deal with that reality. you still have to deal with infection rates and you still have to deal with masks and all of the things attendant with this coronavirus. and the economic impact of that is now realized with 36 million americans without a job. it is now realized with a dow that has dropped significantly.

and with a long term plan planning up in the air because the congress and the white house can't get on the same page with respect to coronavirus recovery let alone a full-throated economic recovery. >> so, doctor, you have the governor who is are facing this very difficult task of finding this balance between economics and health, with these lingering questions about what lifting stay-at-home orders are actually going to mean for the number of case, for the number of deaths. one example is in missouri, where a second stylist at a hair salon tested positive for the coronavirus after she worked while she was actually symptomatic. she potentially exposed 140 more clients. how soon before we know what's working and what isn't? >> it takes about two weeks or so to see the full impact of what a social distancing -- lifting the social distancing or restriction on social distancing does because the virus has an incubation period. so you have got wait a while to see what the impact will be.

i think it is important not just to look at the number of cases or number of deaths but to look at the percent positivity of tests. that's what we want to look at. that will tell us where we are in this outbreak and what our case contact investigators are going to have to deal with. that's what we are going to have to deal with with the outbreak of this disease until there is a vaccine for some period of time. >> the both actually did a thoughtful piece on this. and they wrote in part, watchers of the daily death counts are looking for different things. hints of the future. understanding of the past. a sense of scale. a sense of loss. a wisp of hope. but as memorial day arrives there have been few organized rituals of collective mourning. daily reckonings with mortality counts have become proxies for flag draped coughins that have

become the standard symbol for american's tragedies. doctor, do those numbers shock you? what do you make of so many people who are trying to get some hold on exactly what we are seeing here and living with? >> it is not surprising to me. this is a pandemic that has touched everyone's lives. people know people who are sick. people know people who died. it has been disruptive. people's sense of security, what risks they are willing to take. all of that has been changed. it is not surprising that they want as much information about this pandemic as they can. i suspect they are going to follow this as we move through it until there is a vaccine because that's the only way we will get back to normal, the only way we will feel safe again. looking at those numbers is one way to see where we are in this pandemic and to see the toll it has taken on everyone's lives. >> i think, michael, too, is this partly -- as the "washington post" frames it, you know, people are grasping for meaning, people are trying to figure out what's going on.

is it a bridge too far to say that we miss having our president lead the mourning? >> you know, i really don't think it is a bridge too far. i think that that is a thread that is interwoven throughout the narrative of coronavirus. from the very beginning. and even more so as we reach the death totals that we have, the infection numbers that we have. and even where you have states where the numbers are downturning, and that's a good thing, you now see an upturn in some other states. and in the midst of all of that, the american people are looking for -- you know, they are not looking for a pat on the head or you know, a hot toddy and a hug from the president. they are looking for sobering, concise, honest assessments of what's going on and what his administration and all the agencies that he has at his disposal are doing. and what work is being put together in concert with the

congress to make sure that our businesses other areas that have been devastated by this are secured. and that's -- that's a role of leadership that i think a lot of people are looking for a and have been for a while. they don't like the birking. they don't like the finger pointing. and they certainly don't appreciate a president who says it is not my fault at time like this. >> i have to say the article posted this afternoon by craig timberg on the "washington post" -- i can't recommend it highly enough. it is beautifully written. it is very informative. another of the great reporters from the post. robert costa thanks for joining us. michael steele. doctor, please stay with us. we have some questions for you a little bit later my coming up, what went into the decision that led to this haunting front page of the "new york times" listing nearly 1,000 victims of coronavirus. i am talk to the times' national editor, mark lacy, next. y, next. uh uh, no way

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it is just three words, but are they powerful. an incalculable loss this. mohamed sunday, the "new york times" dedicated its entire front page to those killed by the coronavirus. nearly 1,000 names filled the front page. shocking in its breadth. and they are only about 1% of the u.s. victims. alongside a brief description from their obituaries, including june beverly hill from sacramento. no one made creamed potatoed or

fried sweet corn the way she did. carol brickens, an early pioneer on wall street and a bank official. and kyle kelly, a nurse who was part of a look at the fallen that nbc's kate snow did in ape. >> he moved to new york to dance. his second chapter was nursing. >> i remember him saying i want to help people, just want to help people. >> and he did. >> and he did. >> there is also douglas hicock of pennsylvania, the military's first virus kaszuality. gerald anthony morals of louisiana known for his encyclopedic knowledge of old hollywood, and an energetic high school principal whose student told us this right after she dude. >> he taught me the value that i am never alone in whatever i do. >> the kind of principal who would bring a student a prom dress and do her hair into it was really an honor to be her student and friend.

i cannot say thank you enough. rest in peace. >> joining me now, mark lacy, national editor of the "new york times." mark, this front page is all over social media today. i have seen so many people posting names a few who knew the victims, probably more who were just moved by it. tell me about the reaction you are getting at the times. >> well, it is pretty stunning. i think it is impossible to read these words and not feel something. there are so many -- out there, the number of cases, the number of deaths, and they areset getting so high that i think it is sometimes to forget each one of these figures represents a life that ended too early. and we are just barraged right now with people thanking us and essentially saying, they never

thought their loved one would appear in our newspaper and they have now. so they are very touched. >> you know, there is emotional impact of it. and we see it here. it is also when you actually hold the paper, people are saying how striking it is. it made me think back to when i was a kid, back in 1969, when life magazine did an issue where they put the pictures of 242 american soldiers who were killed until vietnam that week. and it became such an emotional outpouring. and as you point out in this article, the number of covid deaths is more than 1,100 a day since this all began. what did you want people to take away from it? talk about the genesis of this idea, mark. >> so we were looking to document this milestone of

100,000 deaths. that seemed significant. we started about two weeks ago thinking about how can we do it in a fitting format. there were a number of ideas proposed. if you go on line, there is this incredible on line display. but we thought about the page, and should this be a story? should it be the lead story of the "new york times"? and we said, no, this is really the only story. this is story of america at this moment. [ indiscernible ] so we turned over the front page of the "new york times." this is something incredibly rare. we are still searching for precedent of this.

we turned it over to every american. and credible things, you look at this and you see all of these names and they fill the entire payment and they go on for page and page and page after that is this is just 1,000 names [ indiscernible ] -- of those who have died. so it is a small, small representation of the incalculable loss of lives. >> mark lacy with the "new york times," thank you. and we'll be right back. and we'll be right back. that's when you know, it's half-washed. downy helps prevent stretching by conditioning fibers, so clothes look newer, longer. downy and it's done. who has the highest percentage of its vehiclesto longevity,

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and we are back. the battle over mail-in ballots reaching fevered pitch in the midst of a global pandemic. the "washington post's" tally says nearly 30 states changed rules or practices for this

year's primaries or the general election in response to the public health threat posed by covid-19. new policies affecting 86.6 million registered voters in red and blue states aloong. president trump is ramping up his criticism tweeting in part, the united states cannot have all mail-in ballots. it will be the greatest rigged election in history. important to mention there is no evidence that mail-in ballots increase the likelihood for fraught. joining us, dana evans andia heel kapur. donna, you wrote come november, we will see the patriots who stand with voters versus the partisans who stand in the way. make your case for why the president is wrong. >> well, the president is wrong first of all because there is no difference between republicans

and democrats when it comes to turn out with mail-in ballots. and there is no such things as voter fraud when it comes to mail-in ballots. it simply isn't true. i mean there have been so many studies that have been done about this that the president is just absolutely wrong on the facts. look, voters are voting any way by mail-in ballot. i mean more than a quarter of voters voted that way in 2016. and that number is likely to increase in the pandemic. and so the president just gets the facts all wrong. but also, just this idea of discouraging voters from participating. and so somehow there is something nefarious and wrong about a mail-in ballot that's different from voting in person. it is just not true. >> the fight is not new, for sure, but the importance of access in the time of a pandemic i think was made pretty clear

during the wisconsin primary in early april. we saw those people standing in line for hours in early april. scores of them tested positive for covid. today, how is this shaping up? how big a battle are we likely to see in the coming months. it is shaping up to be a major battle both this the states and in congress. we are seeing a partisan line around this, it is being led by the president who convinced himself that more mail in voting is going to hurt him. there is no evidence of this. the studies that looked at this have found there is no clear benefit to one party or another. there are a number of sats that conduct all of their voting by mail. utah and oregon. what we are seeing is an effort, a strong pump by election experts to urge congress to give states the resources to carry this out. usually, a fifth to a fourth of

americans vote by mail. this time it could be 50%. that's a massive undertaking for states because they need to print out hundreds of thousands of more ballots, more postage envelopes and essentially send those to voters and process them very quickly. states don't have the resources to process them quickly. in states like pennsylvania and michigan you can't even open or begin to prothey soes until election day. we are current low on a path to chaos unless something is done rapidly according to election experts i am talking to. >> we content know where we will basketball when it comes the coronavirus come november. what do you think it is going to look like? >> look, vote remembers going to vote. they are going show up at the polls, some of them, a lot of voters will take the option like i will, and i have already, take the option of voting by mail. and that will actually take some of the pressure off of election

day. there will be drop box battle. i think that however voters want to vote they should be able to. whether that is by mail, by dropping off their ballot or by standing in line safely in person. but they should have these options available to them so that we can deal with coronavirus and also conduct an election. >> as you know, sahil, president trump even threaten withhold funding from michigan, custom is a state experiencing disastrous flooding right now because it sent mail in ballot applications to its voters, custom the president incorrectly identified as dual ballots. how far is the white house willing to go? are these idle threats? or where do you see this going in terms of the white house's willingness to push this? >> well, the president definitely seems to view this as an effective political tool to rile up his base to give them new content to be worried and feel like they need to show up

and vote and give him another four years because there are dark forces at work that could steal the country away from them and from him if they don't help. that's narrative he is portraying, even though there is no evidence this will lead to fraud. i spoke to someone close to governor whittmer who didn't know anything about the white house tleping to withhold any aid to michigan. michigan. i have a hard time seeing him actually going through about it. but he does like the politics of this. >> yeah, but you also look at the nbc news poll from april that showed 67% of registered voters support mail-in ballots. but do polls make any difference? i mean we have certainly seen over the course of time -- i am not just talking about the trump

administration, where the american people have strong feelings about something they think is common sensical, but that isn't necessarily where congress or in this case the white house wants to go. >> not only do polls show that three quarters of did -- two thirds of voters rather support mail-in voting but they also show that people are doing it. voters want to vote by mail. they should be allowed to. i think that the pressure is going to be heaped on the president because republicans can on one hand say to voters in michigan and wisconsin, i want your vote, they know it is a swing state and on the other hand be threatening their governors for helping to enable them to vote. i mean, it really is a very mixed message. and i think partisans should understand that there really is no difference in turnout or in applications of voters who are republicans, democrats, or

independents. there are no demographic difference. voters just want to be able to vote by mail. and they should be allowed to vote by mail. >> donna edwards, sahil kapur, great to see both of you. thank you for coming to talk to us on a holiday weekend. we do appreciate it. coming up, dozens of states are now allowing dentists to reopen their offices to the public. would you go? details of the growing controversy when we come back. y.

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with new research suggesting most transmission of coronavirus is person to person, how comfortable are you going to the dentist? the decision by more than 40 states allowing dentists to open full-time is definitely touched a nerve. pardon the pun. everyone in a dentist's office from the doctor to the hygienist to patients are now facing a situation where routine procedures pose risks that are anything but routine. i went to connecticut. one of the states reopening. >> this connecticut orthodontist is fully reopening his office today. >> we have been closed six weeks. we have a backlog. >> reporter: the new normal means keeping patients safe in the age of covid. >> we are wearing higher level masks, n 95s, face shields and disposal gowns. >> he invested in a new air

filtration system reduced the number of patients he will see each day and revamping waiting room procedures. >> their temperature will be checked. once everything is deemed okay they will be escorted to the chair where we will be working. >> reporter: research suggests the coronavirus survives airborne for hours. that's why industry insiders worry dental offices are reopening before it's safe. >> aerosols generated in a dentist's office are unavoitible, whether it is by dentist's drills, hygienist' instruments and the patients who need to cough. >> reporter: guidelines are suggestions that it's worried not all dentists will following. would you go to the dentist for a non-emergent problem? >> i would absolutely avoid

going to the dentist's office with a non-emergent service. >> three in ten dental offices didn't have n 95 masks and 18% had no face shields. this connecticut dentist says it has been a challenge. >> we do have what we need. it hasn't been easy. >> reporter: he invested beyond the guidelines including a fogger to clean rooms and a mobile ubc unit to reduce pathogens. you understand why people are nervous? >> for sure. i am nervous. and i am also nervous on the flip side, if we don't do anything what about that patient. >> reporter: if they get really stick? >> now being afraid of the dentist means something different now. >> i wanted to make sure my child was safe and comfortable in a setting outside the home. >> what are you looking forward to most when all of this is over. >> getting my teeth straight. >> reporter: the challenge of reopening a business when it is anything but business as usual. joining us now, a senior scholar

from the johns hopkins center. let's talk about the science of aerosols. that's the main thing. i have heard it from people who are deciding whether or not to go to the dentist. the hygienists, many of them have decided not to go back to work right now. et cetera the number one thing that they talk about -- it's the number one thing that they talk about. what do we know? how difficult or easy can it be, with the right equipment, to minimize any risk? >> there are definitely dental instruments that can generate aerosols, certain things they use to clean, rotary drills. they are ways dentists can modify the procedures according to cdc guidance. if they are aerosolizing it is important they wear n 95 masks, eye shields. and all dentists should be able to think about doing this. this is something we are going to be facing until there is a vaccine. dentists are going to have to

open their practice. we can't let dental health shrivel away during the pandemic because patients still get sick. they come to the emergency department instead and they can't help them because we don't have those tools in emergency departments. >> there was this alarming study that showed nearly half of dentists said if they didn't get back up and running by the end of summer they thought they would have to close. of course we have seen this with e.r.s and small rural hospitals to chb the places that are going close are the places in the remote areas, where people are underserved where they don't have the option of going to a bunch of different places like i would have in new york city. having said that, what are the questions people should be asking if they are nervous about going to the dentist but they feel like they should be going. >> they should be asking about the procedure once they enter the office, is there screening? how is waiting set up? what type of personal protective

equipment are there for the dentist and the double-edge hygienist. what procedures are had he going to be doing, what can they or can't they do. but if they have urge encare they need to be seen. we don't want people putting thing off. we have seen that during this pandemic. people are out approximating health conditions out from being seen because they are worried about the coronavirus. understandably so but we don't want them to become insurmountable. >> doctor, things to for being with us today. coming up, the homeless have been hit specially hard by the coronavirus pandemic and too often forgotten. actor and humanitarian ben varine will join me next to talk about the project that aims to help. stay with us. t that aims to help stay with us of an outdoor grill indoors, and because it's a ninja foodi, it can do even more, like transform into an air fryer. the ninja foodi grill, the grill that sears, sizzles, and air fry crisps.

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across the u.s. the homeles are spending their nights on empty trains, deserted highways and behind closed businesses, often afraid to enter homeless shelters that have become a breeding ground for the coronavirus. joining me now is tony award-winning actor and advocate for the homeless, ben vereen. it's so good to have you here. you're an ambassador for the organization care for the homeless. talk to us about what you're seeing, the impact of covid-19, and how it's impacting the homeless community, ben. >> well, first thing i want to says is we hold all those souls that we've lost here in america up in prayer, and we hold out our arms to all the families that are grieving tonight and grieving through this whole pandemic that we're going through. my brothers and sisters who are living on the streets there, we have to reach out our arms and protect them. what care for the homeless is doing is we are taking them off the streets and putting them into hotels and making sure that they get their tests done and

their lives are safe. but we need you to help us because we're all in this truly together. >> well, let's talk about the help that you're helping to organize, a virtual vereen and friends. >> yes. >> it's going to take place next month, june 18. tell us about it. >> well, i've asked my friends to come along and i'm asking people to please donate some funds to help this organization continue to do their work that they're doing for the homeless. they're the only organization i know of that's preparing health care for the homeless. they're taking them off the streets and giving them medical care for free, and they need to be supported. so i'm asking america, i'm asking new yorkers to help save new york. we're going to have entertainers going to come on, have doctors to talk about the situation. these people have been -- we're celebrating 35 years of these

people doing this for the homeless people. and we're celebrating their staff, like our first responders. we celebrate them. like our doctors and our nurses out there doing the hard work, these people in the homeless shelters are doing the hard work. the staff, the doctors, the nurses, the aides, they're doing the hard work to make sure these lives are saved, as well as our lives are saved. >> well, one of the things that we know about people experiencing homelessness is they're more likely to have underlying untreated health conditions that make them more vulnerable. so while -- yeah. many people may get the virus and never show any symptoms, the homeless are much more likely to get sick and very sick as a result, right? >> that's why we must come to the aid of the homeless right now because we do not know -- i know that the care for the homeless, right now we only have 79 deaths in our facilities.

that's because we're doing the good work. we're getting ahead of the curve and we're working with the solution. i want the city to begin to work with the solution. come together and we can solve this thing. so, yes, the people who are homeless are more susceptible to all these diseases and all these diabetes and various effects of their lives. with the help of care for the homeless, there is a way out. not only for them, but all of us. >> i can't even imagine the strain, and i just want to reiterate what you said, giving a shout out to these folks on the front line who are working with the homeless. doctors, nurses, volunteers in many cases. >> yes. the homeless centers. >> right? >> yes. >> and there is a new analysis out of columbia university that says as we watch the numbers go up of joblessness, there is a growing concern that the net result of this pandemic could be

that homelessness could go up as much as 45% in a system that you well know, ben, is already heavily taxed, right? >> yes, that's right. so this makes us look at the solution a little bit closer. we have to find a solution to this. this is not about the homeless. this is about all of us. this is about all the people together. we've got to defeat this. we will defeat this. we've got to recognize the fact that our healing component is within us. care for the homeless is doing a good work. that's why i'm a part of them. they're out there doing a good work. they're making sure the homeless are taken off the streets so that when this thing is over, there may be a higher number, but i'm praying, i'm claiming that the numbers will not go up. we'll come to our senses and put people back to work and the numbers of people being homeless will go down in our country. it's time. these are god's children. these are ala's children, these

are buddha's children. these are our children. our people. our people. and we must do something for our people. not only the rich, but also the poor, everybody, everybody together. >> i want to tell people again the google virtual vereen and friends taking place june 18. the lineup is incredible. >> june 18 at 6:00 p.m. >> 6:00 p.m. ben vereen, thank you so much for the work you're doing here. and thank you for everything you've done over the years to bring us so much joy with your performances. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> more important than what the community is doing now. >> that's right. please be safe, you and your family. to all the people here at the station. >> you, too. >> i'm praying for all of you. >> ben verren, thank you. that's going to wrap things up for me at this hour. i'm chris jansing. thank you for watching. i'll see you here tomorrow 2:00 p.m. eastern time. my colleague kasie hunt will

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