welcome to monday, it's meet the press daily. i'm katy tur in for chuck todd. the images of today in the past few days are a snapshot of a country in a public health and political crisis. despite warnings from public health officials that this virus has not been contained. some people are flocking to

beaches, pools, parks and restaurants. many do not appear to be heeding social distancing guidelines or recommendations about wearing masks. this comes after the fda commissioner warned the virus is not contained. and dr. deborah birx emphasized that social distancing is absolutely critical right now. contrast that with a stunning image like this one. the front page of yesterday's new york times which displays just a few names of the nearly 100,000 americans who have died from this virus so far. then there are the images of president trump today honoring the lives of the men and women who died while serving in the military doing so after days of viciously attacking his perceived political enemies. at times with baseless conspiracy theories, all as he pushes for the country to quickly reopen. today he threatened to pull the

gop convention from north carolina unless the governor assured republicans that he'd allow the event to be fully occupied. the political turbulence of the moment also hammered home like these images of the apparent democratic nominee appearing in public for the first time in more than 70 days, wearing a black mask as he participates in a memorial day ceremony in delaware. as we begin a summer of uncertainty here's one final image showing that confirmed coronavirus cases have yet to decline in regions of the country other than the northeast. joining me now from the white house is monica alba. also with us is peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times and an msnbc analyst. peter, i want to start with you,

the president appeared presidential when laying that wreath. when you look at what he's doing, when he's the one at the controls, when he's sitting with his phone and tweeting. his behavior doesn't appear to be that of a president on a solemn -- on one of the nation's most solemn days. >> this whole weekend has been a tableau of trumpian authorities. lobbying insults at people, retweeting posts from a racist and sexist twitter account. finding ways to engage his enemies on anything other than the virus. we're at the verge of 100,000 dead here, and it's such a hoyer ific number that it's hard to get our heads around. i did a little bit of math, and

it represents, you know, basically the size of the city of boca raton florida. as if it were wiped off the map in its entirety. the nuk of dead exceeds those lost in vietnam and korea combined. the president made a mention of that today in his speech at baltimore, but basically, devoted one sentence to those who have died of the virus, and instead he is trying to push a message of moving forward. recovery, not tragedy. he wants to talk about how the economy is reopening, not dwelling on those we have lost. >> if we're looking forward and looking at the election in november, is the president's focus now moving toward politics as usual or his brand of politics as usual, which is don't mind what i do, listen to what i say to my base. do they believe that's going to

work he can be fighting with people, calling women names tweets out inflammatory accusations, in the middle of a pandemic, where almost 100,000 americans have died? >> his campaign and close allies believe that is the strategy going-forward. that's because this is a president who just this afternoon was tweeting about his focus being on credit he feels he hasn't received on the pandemic response. this is a theme as you know so well from the last few years, this is someone who donald trump has always wanted those around him to praise him. he seeks the sort of adoration and praise from those who are his top critics, that's why he punches back at them. we saw that a week or two ago as he was so intensely going after his predecessor, barack obama. even in tweets today, he said he's spent less time on the golf

course than barack obama, this president has spent 400 days, some portion of those days at one of his own branded properties often golfing and tweeting. this is something he's trying to change the facts on. this is something the campaign has mastered. they've weaponized slinging misinformation. it's something they've done for 2020. the president is trying to project a group of seven meeting here at the white house. his top national security official said he's going to be inviting those leaders to come. he's going to praise his handling on the coronavirus own the national stage. that's something they're looking to do in just a few weeks here. it gives you a sense of what they're hoping to move forward to, katie. >> as someone who's covered multiple president dense.

can you put this into some sort of perspective for us? because the president's looking back to his old playbook in 2016, he's going for his base, doing the politics of tribalism as monica laid out. what -- why would he think that that would work when it is now 2020, it's been four years. and again, we are in the middle of a pandemic? we're in the middle of a history making moment that is not good at all, where more americans have died than in multiple u.s. wars. >> yeah, i think he thinks it's going to work, because it worked before, and every time anyone tells him you ought to be doing this or doing that, he says, look, i'm the one who got here, i'm the one that managed to make it work. everyone told me i couldn't do it in 2016 and look what happened, i did. in 2016, he pulled inside straight. that was a really really unusual election in which he won the

electoral college but not the popular vote. he won but only by hairs, in several states, the idea of doing that again in 2020 was always going to be a challenge. and he's done nothing between 2016 and now to expand his base. george w. bush won in 2000 by winning the electoral college. he spent the four years in between trying to expand his appeal. that's not been president trump's strategy. his strategy is to keep the people sticking by him, who brought in there in the first place, energize them, mobilize them, get them to come out and dampen the enthusiasm on the other side of the equation. with this pandemic, the strategy becomes that much more complicated, that much more challenging opinion he's hoping he can tell people who support him or are inclined to support him. i built this economy before, i can do it again, i'm the one you want to stick with. and that biden guy is not good for all the reasons he's going to site. he thinks there's a chance 6

pulling it out again. >> dr. gup tarks we are now approaching 100,000 people in this cunned who have died, they were trying to put it into a -- i guess not perspective, but they're trying to show the weight of it by printing all those names and saying it was 1% of the dead, for a lot of people, it can seem like a bunch of numbers. there are folks out here who have not been hit personally by this disease, they've been hit economically maybe, but not -- not by a loved one dying or a loved one falling seriously ill, can you help us understand the seriousness of this virus, that it's taken 100,000 americans in just the span of a few months? >> absolutely, katie. that's an important question, because my colleagues and i lived this day in and day out.

all of you are bringing truth to power, and you're seeing all these effects every single day. thank you for what you're doing, you're right, still the effects of this are so -- the worst effects of it are sew -- less than a percent of the american population. how do we make this real? >> i think a few studies should make it clear to every single household that this can affect us all. the first study was out of columbia a few weeks ago, that showed had the president taken the type of action we hoped he would have taken, which is strong, national lockdown a few weeks earlier, 80% of american lives we currently lost could have been saved. that could be anybody's life, you can still end up in the icu, this can affect us all. that's one of the key lessons we've seen in the last two months. we don't know, what's the true death toll? we have no idea, we should be surprised that reports out of

georgia and florida there's been undercounting of deaths, there's been intentional data suppression. we don't have testing in place, it's been three months, number two, it steams like there's people in positions of power, that are intentionally trying to cover up the truth, manipulation, trying to make graphs and tables look better than they should be, actually miscategorizing covid related deaths as the result of something else. we don't even know what truth is here, we say it's 100,000, it's probably larger about the fact of the matter is, now we're seeing images of memorial day, a lot of people not following social distancing guidelines and masks. this means mom, dad, grand mark grandpa, and even your children are vulnerable. this can affect us all. we've seeing now that even children can be affected. if we don't have public cooperation, we don't have our

elected officials reporting the truth. we're all at risk. it can affect us all. we're very much not out of the woods and we need to act together otherwise this is going to get worse before it gets better. >> let me ask you this. in a lot of places you don't have public acceptance or public coordination on trying to stop the spread of this disease. there are people out there that don't think it's as big of a deal as it's made out to be. how do you as health expert or somebody trying to create policy. how do you get through to those people? is there a way to allow people to return to their not normal daily lives, but maybe their normal activities in a safeway. can we reopen but do it safely? >> it's an important question, katie. the truth here is, you're probably going to get by, from what we've seen in survey reports, 70, 80% of americans we

can get to the point where we're wearing masks, we can't implement strict social distancing guidelines. someone 10 years ago, could smoke a cigarette in your face and blow secondhand smoke in your face. right now, there is no law saying you have to wear a mask. why isn't that the case? why aren't governors making those masks mandatory? we had a security guard die in michigan because someone felt they had the right to kill him as opposed to wearing a mask. that's what he was encouraging a shopper at a dollar store to do. we need governors to take a strong stance on masks. something as basic as that can save lives. we need mandatory masks, that's one way. >> everybody, thank you very much. an coming up, it is the

unofficial start of summer, summer is going to look a whole lot different. i'm going to talk with the mayor of miami beach about the preparations underway there. and later, clearing the air about pollution and covid-19. can the improvements in our air quality during our nationwide lockdown actually last?

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welcome back, memorial day weekend marks the un official

start of the summer season. for coastal communities that means tourism. things look a little different for many of those cities and towns, including miami beach, florida. where the main attraction, its beaches will stay closed for another week. the city is hoping to sal vooj the season. a few businesses opened last week, and on wednesday, restaurants will reopen. here now with more on how miami beach will navigate the new normal is mayor dan gelber. thank you very much for joining us. how are you going to do it? >> slowly and cautiously. you know, we're a destination community. so we have to be pretty careful about what we do. we could take tens of thousands of people in a minute. so we have to be careful. we're opening up our streets, we're giving people an ability to spread out, we're going to make sure that everybody has masks on inside, it's required,

it's not urged, it's the law. we have all the good practices in place -- we're going to make sure people feel safe, but that they are safe. >> how many officers are you going to have out there with doing compliance? we had -- my colleague on in the last hour, he was in wisconsin. he said although some of the restaurants were trying to practice social distancing within their facilities, the people spilled out on the street and they weren't complying with it on the street at all. >> well, our -- we have 800 restaurants in my little beach town that's only seven miles long and a barrier island. we've had about 50 code officers just helping people prep for the opening on wednesday. we didn't open up as fast as the county or as fast as the state or the other nearby countyies we're the last to open. we wanted to make sure people

knew what the rules of the road were. during the opening, there will be a lot of ambassadors or code officer officers looking to help people. we're not looking to arrest anybody. but we're looking to make sure there's a safe environment. >> how are you going to enforce social distance something and will people be required to wear a mask on the beach? >> if they're not taking care of social distancing, they're going to have to wear one at that time. we're going to have lifeguards patrolling 7 1/2 miles of beach, it's not an easy task. i'm worried about it, i've seen what's happened in other places this last weekend and it didn't look like it was conduct consistent with the pandemic. we're not assuming everything is going to go right, we're going to make sure we have what we

need by way of people out there, explaining to people what they need to do, urging them to do the right thing. >> how will hotels operate with social distancing in mind? >> well, they're putting together all sorts of exacting protocols. all of them are going beyond that. they'll have masks for the folks that are working there. certainly some of them will be changing rooms out with a day in between. some will be at reduced capacities, we're trying to create a scenario where it's easier to avoid the proximities that we know this virus likes. >> are you expecting some of the businesses -- some of the smaller hotels or larger hotels to make it through this summer season if the crowds aren't back as they normally are?

if they're not allowed to operate as they normally do? >> it's going to be tough for some. we are very much a community where people people like to be hospitable. we just have to make sure we don't create crowds which, of course, is is opposite of what they want in the business. that's how they pay their rent and pay their employees. i think it's going to be difficult for some. we can't just assume we're going to do something less than critical in order to get through this. >> are you getting the support you need from the state or the federal government? >> interesting you say that, every time we seem to give out some guidelines or some requirements, the federal government it's difficult to tell people to wear masks when

the president doesn't want to. i don't think we've gotten it from the federal government, the state government has allowed us to go later than everybody else to be more cautious, because we need to. we're not a city that was built on social distancing. we're a city built on super bowls and large art fairs. the state's been accommodating -- the cdc has given us guidelines, even now they don't seem to be specific as to what we should do. it feels like we're on our own. >> miami beach mayor it is hard when you're not getting the same message from the top. we appreciate your time. thank you, and good luck. >> next up, presidential politics in the midst of a pandemic. president trump is threatening to move the republican national convention over possible virus related restrictions. you're watching msnbc. [woman] what is that?

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welcome back, typically in a presidential election year, by the time memorial day comes around, campaigns are in full swing. nothing is typical these days, and that includes campaigning. >> as we said earlier, today marks the first time in more than two months that joe biden the apparent democratic nominee for president has been seen in public. the former vice president wearing a mask laid a wreath to honor the fallen, at a delaware

war memorial. it was his first appearance since march 15th. while it is not clear if and when biden will be campaigning publicly again, president trump has made clear that he wants a large crowd when he officially accepts the republican nomination this summer. he threatened to move the republican national convention out of charlotte, unless rory cooper allows full attendance. with me now, research fellow at the hoover institution, and former policy adviser for mitt romney's 2012 campaign. and donna edwards from maryland. let's leave trump and the convention aside for a moment. i know these are weird times. and i know joe biden is following the guidance, the health guidance of the state of delaware, and also doing online campaign events. this is not how you'd want to campaign for president when you

are especially not the incumbent. >> of course it's not, and, of course, it's a very challenging environment, and i think that the former vice president is really trying to figure out how both to adhere to the recommendation of the cdc and his own state. also, to look out for the health and safety of people who might want to attend an event. the vice president 45z done this responsibly, and he's going to have to figure out as all the teams will, how to reach voters in a different kind of way, given the circumstance that we're in. >> he's at a disadvantage, though, he doesn't have the same reach and the same mega phone by virtue of him not being the president in this time of crisis. >> katie, look, i think if you're the biden team, you're worried about a couple different

things, one is the ability to get into the conversation, the other thing is just the kind of work that an incumbent can do to define a challenger during this period of time. i remember very well when i was advising mitt romney, we were unable to do much because we were in in a contested primary, in a similar way for biden, he's not able to get out there and articulate his message and get into the discussion. what is going to be the candidacy of joe biden during this time, when he's not able to get out there with the same frequency as the president. that for the biden team may be the bigger concern. >> doesn't it benefit biden to have the president come out and be so erratic and inconsistent on his messaging over this pandemic.

does it benefit him when the president says maybe ingesting disinfect angt. or he's tweeting vicious attacks on his opponents, his critics and some of his supporters even on the weekend of memorial day. or i guess -- or is donald trump still impermeable as he was in 2016. >> i don't think any candidate is completely impervious to all of this. i think what the biden team needs to figure out is what are the best lines of attack. the challenge in this case is that they've probably got a lot of different ways that are people are telling them they ought to go. they have their own instincts. ine the conversation in a way that's different from any previous presidential candidate.

in that sense he's tougher to run against than your typical incumbent. it's also the case that the biden team has things to choose from. they have to focus in on what anywhere line of attack is going to be, figure out what's going to be most effective and take their shot. tomorrow there may be something different we're talking about when it comes to things president trump has said. >> that's true. >> talking about the convention, the president is threatening to move the convention out of north carolina if he doesn't get his way. the democrats are saying, they don't know what their convention is going to look like. at least part of it might be on line, does any of that matter? >> well, i mean, i -- >> outside of the facts obviously of gathering a large crowd together. does the campaigning in a convention actually matter to voters? >> i think it's good for the base to gin up their energy to go back to their states and be enthusiastic and excited going back to help the candidate.

help the nominee. but the reality is, democrats are trying to figure out how to have either a safe convention or ways in which their delegates can engage that keep them healthy. i don't know republicans are doing, and i think governor cooper to his credit is really trying to look out for the health and safety of north carolinaens and also, all of those who would come and go, maybe carrying this virus. but look, this is a referendum on donald trump. and i think the biden campaign and democrats understand that, and let the president be out there all he wants. and every day he looks more incompetent and more incoherent in terms of the message he wants to send to the american people. >> do you think the democrats should have one? or should they move it all on line at this point? >> they may figure out some

variation of the theme where there are some delegates and some speeches that come from a convention hall or some venue. but i think people are understandably leery of traveling and then going back into their home communities. and i think it's important for tom perez and the democratic national committee to really figure this out, and think carefully about what they expect of delegates, we can still -- we're going to nominate joe biden, and then we're going to get out there and work for him. whether that congress vengs takes place in modified form or not, it's going to be important for us to then be on the same page and move forward toward november. >> if the president does end up moving the convention to a state where he can have full capacity, that is a big if. so far right now, it's a threat. who knows if you can put on a convention that quickly, if he

does do that, what message does that send. and who is he sending it to to have a packed arena full of people in the middle of the pandemic? >> well, i mean, these are the environments that the president has always thrived off of. he likes the energy from the crowd. the message he's sending, regardless of what people think from a public health perspective. this is me doing the events that work for me. that's not appealing to some voters. at some point one has to question, beyond the base, where does a president need to go to get the votes he needs to get re-elected. it's so hard to plan a convention it takes years to plan a convention. the notion you can flip the switch and move it somewhere else willing challenging. i think a lot of this dialogue goes away as we move toward the

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welcome back. the white house will soon be restricting travel from brazil because of the coronavirus. the ban which will take effect later this week was put into place after brazil's surge in coronavirus cases. foreign nationals will be denied entry into the united states if they were physically in brazil at any point in the proceeding two weeks. brazil is reporting over 368,000 cases. and over 22,000 deaths. it is now second to the u.s. in the total number of coronavirus cases worldwide. joining me now, nbc news chief global correspondent bill neely. i presume you will not be passing through the united states on your way back. but kidding aside, let's talk about this surge in cases there. the surge in the past few weeks has been remarkable. what is happening? >> absolutely, katie, an

explosion of cases. just to give you one small example. we were at a field hospital earlier today, it's right next to brazil's famous soccer stadium. they set up this hospital just two weeks ago, and already 52 people have died there. there are ambulances arriving all the time. it's one of seven field hospitals, they're trying to set up here in rio. quite frankly they cannot build them quickly enough. and again, yesterday we were in brazil's biggest slum. a quarter of a million people live there, tightly packed streets, 6 or 7 to a house. and that's the kind of place where this virus just spreads like wildfire. 30 people or more live in slums like that, you get an idea of how fast this virus can spread.

and, of course, i have to say, one of the reasons it probably is spreading is because of the messages people are getting from the top. so brazil's president, an ally of president trump has dismissed the virus as a little flu right from the beginning. he's telling people, don't worry about the lockdown, forget about social distancing, get out and get to work. yesterday he was on an anti-lockdown protest. even though brazil passed this mile stoning of 22,000 deaths, he was out no mask, hugging people, having his photograph taken with children very close. that's the kind of example i suppose that he is setting. and millions of people in brazil follow this lead. a big city is completely reopening even indeed tonight, brazil's churches, ivevangelica

and many roman catholic churches have agreed they too will reopen. especially those brazilian supporters of the president. you can see how conditions of poverty and so on, this virus is going crazy here, katie. >> uncomfortable similarities with brazil's leader and president trump. bill neely in rio. thank you very much. a literal breath of fresh air in the middle of a pandemic.

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welcome back. amid all of the restrictions put in place, the world managed to unintentionally restrict something else. our carbon emissions. according to a study from nature climate change produced by the global carbon project. worldwide carbon emissions have dropped by an unprecedented 17%

over the course of the pandemic. the reason is simple. as the industry was forced to slow down and the number of people driving and flying dropped significantly. so did the greenhouse gases created by those activities. and as countries and economies reopen, it's inevitable that these emissions levels will again rise. will countries be able to turn this progress into something sustainable. the chair of the global carbon project. and a co author on this study. he's a professor at stanford and janet mccabe. the director of indiana university and former acting assistant administrate ever for the epa. both of you welcome, rob, i want to start with you, 17%, big number. once things reopen, it looks like the yearly drop in our carbon emissions might be at best 7%, and potentially just 4%. walk me through what you've

found? >> first of all, the drop in the united states for a week or two in april was almost a third, that's really unprecedented. 4 to 7% for the global year may note sound that much. that would be the biggest drop since world war ii and ever. it's for the wrong reasons and our hearts open to the people who have lost their jobs or loved ones. we have to learn from what we can from this unprecedented experiment. >> does that mean everything is all good because we were able to reduce carbon emissions by that much in this short period of time? >> no, certainly not. we don't want to reduce emissions because people are locked down at home, and because 40 million americans are out of work. in 2008 the last recession, emissions dropped for a percentage a half. and they shot back up. 5%? 2010. what we need to do is find a way to make these declines more

permanent. we learned from that, the stimulus spending in 2009. we have millions of americans who work in clean energy. we need the same transformation in the transportation industry. and we can start by freeing up $40 billion in low-cost loans that are sitle idle in the department of energy's clean energy and advanced vehicle programs. we need to put that money to work. >> janet, you used to be at the epa. what is a feasible plan look like? what could we do in the near term to take what we've been forced to do these past few months and turn it into long-term, sustained change? >> yeah, katie, i think that's the real challenge here. i agree with everything rob has said. there are lessons to be learned here. one thing we have learned is if you don't have cars with exhaust on the roads, air quality improves dramatically. and while we don't like the way

we got here, we can learn from this. so imagine if the fleet of the future is electric cars that do not have a tail pipe because they have no emissions. what we have shown is you can make a huge difference in air quality, in emissions, if you make some changes. i think the industry is poised on the brink ready to do this. and now is our opportunity. >> is it not being sold well enough? because look at it in another way. there are millions of americans who are out of work right now. a lot of those americans might not go back to a job once economies are reopened. some of those jobs might have been lost forever. is turning green energy as an economic turn more so than an environmental turn to brush past the politics, the unnecessary and depressing politics of

climate change? >> i think you can definitely do that. this is a hard time to suggest to somebody that they go out and invest in a new vehicle. on the other hand, if you're not pumping gas into your car every week, you are saving money. if you are getting your energy from solar panels or wind energy where there's no fuel cost, you'll be saving money, as well. if you're using efficient appliances, your bill will go down. i think a lot of these things need to be jump-started through federal policies and programs that support these kinds of innovations with him widespread into people's homes. >> but transitioning industry from a dirty place to a clean place, that's going to create new jobs, right, rob? >> oh, absolutely. i agree with janet.

we need to make the energy transition the center piece. this is what china is doing, because it's creating jobs. we have 3 million americans that work in clean energy. we are creating jobs at a rate that far outpaces losses in fossil fuel industries. but this ask abois about the ec, and the environment is an important but secondary benefit. what is i took away from this research, the big thing is this is not up to the individual. it's not if i start recycling more or if i individually buy a cleaner car or change up my appliances, that to get the drop that this planet needs, it's got to be much bigger than just the individual.

>>' it is. individual decisions and choices matter. how much we consume, drive, fly, our diet, meat consumption, how conservative we are in our consumption. wind and solar prices and contracts are at record lows, partly because of the benefits of stimulus funding from ten years ago. but we need to transfer that to transportation and other sectors of the economy that have been much harder to de-carbonize. >> rob jackson, janet mccabe, guys, thank you for joining me on this memorial day to talk about what i think is such an important issue and unfortunately, we don't get to spend enough time on. thank you very much for your time. and we'll be right back. r your time and we'll be right back.

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some may at times forget memorial day is a somber holiday meant to help us remember those who died for this country. and it's impossible to forget right now, but with so many precautions in place, how do you honor a life while being socially distant? associated press photographer david goldman found a way.

he wanted to pay triblt to veterans in trmassachusetts who died from a coronavirus outbreak there. goldman projected their images on the sides of their homes, allowing them to stand alongside the loved ones they left behind just one last time. harry served in the navy. he died from coronavirus at 89. here he is with his son and daughter-in-law. constance was a nurse in the air force. she lost her fight with covid at age 73. and those are her sisters and brothers. james sullivan served in the army during world war ii. he died four days shy of his 100th birthday. those right there are his sons. the shadow cast by the coronavirus is wide and it is deep amidst all of this darkness, there is light. and it is still shining.

sometimes you can barely see it. and other times, it's right there. looming ever so large like a lasting legacy. that's all for tonight. chuck will be back tomorrow with me at 1:00 and 2:00. he'll also be back here for more "meet the press daily." in the meantime, my own personal breath of fresh air, ari melber joins us. "the beat with ari melber" starts in a moment. >> it's true, katie. nice to see you. obviously tough times overall, and appreciate the tribute you were just doing. how is the rest of your life doing now that you are through working and you have the rest of your memorial day? >> i don't know if anybody could hear it, but upstairs it sounded like my son was going through civil war surgery. he was screaming so loud. so i'm not sure. i'm not sure what i'm about to ascend to upstairs. >> well, i