let's be honest. quitting smoking is hard. like, quitting every monday hard. quitting feels so big. so try making it smaller, and you'll be surprised at how easily starting small can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette. thanks for watching that does it for me. joy reid is next right here on msnbc. good evening. i'm joy reid. well, this is the scene tonight in minneapolis where pain and outrage over the death of george floyd in police custody was answered today, at least partially. derek chauvin the fired minneapolis police officer seen here pinning floyd by his neck was arrested and charged with third degree murder and manslaughter. chauvin is one of four officers fired by because of their

involvement in floyd's death while in custody, but the only one charged so far. the criminal complaint alleges, quote, the defendant had his knee on mr. floyd's neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. 2 minutes and 53 seconds of this was after mr. floyd was nonresponsive. police are trained that this type of restraint with the subject in a proned position is inherently dangerous. announcing the charges today, hennepin county's top prosecutor mike freeman said that despite more than one video of what officers did to mr. floyd, they didn't have enough to charge chauvin until today. >> we're looking at the evidence, there may be subsequent charges later. the investigation is ongoing. we felt it appropriate to focus on the most dangerous perpetrator. we can only charge a case when we have sufficient admissible

evidence to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. as of right now we have that. >> in a statement the family of george floyd, a 46-year-old father of two, welcomed a step on the road to justice. we expected a first degree murder charge and we want to see the other officers arrested. we call on authorities to revise the charges to reflect the true culpability of the officer. the decision to charge chauvin follows the emergence of new video of the deadly incident. that video taken from the opposite side of the street appears to show three of the officers pinning floyd down. it follows another night of peaceful protests in minneapolis but boiled over. one at a police precinct. of course donald trump was fanning the flames as he always does in the usual way with a tweet. we'll have much more on that

later. anger other floyd's death and the deaths of other black men and women have sparked protests across the country over the past 48 hours. tonight, the mayor of minneapolis announced a curfew which takes effect two hours from now. i'm joined by ali velshi on the ground in minneapolis. give me a sense of the reaction to the charges against officer chauvin. >> joy, there are a number of things going on and one is that people are wondering about this third degree charge. they're wondering about the three other officers. they're wondering about the absence of the video, a perp walk of chauvin being arrested because it's been of the minneapolis police standing guard outside his house, so the frustration is boiling over here as you can see here. this is a demonstration. we're about three blocks agray the police precinct, but they have the jersey barriers, you

see the line of state patrolmen and supported by the national guard officers. we are two hours away from the imposition of the curfew and it remains to be seen what happens to the crowds like this around the city at 8:00 p.m. eastern our time, 9:00 p.m. your time, when they're supposed to disappear. will they disipate, will the police make an arrest? they have not engaged with the protesters. in fact, 24 hours ago, there were no police, no firefighters, no national guardsmen around here at all. that's changed. there's a heavy law enforcement presence here right now. but we don't know what happens in the next two hours. the crowds are building, the tension is mounting. there are several people going up and confronting the state troopers. that's the kind of thing that's happening right now. tensions are high and we are awaiting for a couple of hours. the crowd here is much, much smaller than it was yesterday. it's also not centered around

something like it was when we were three blocks from here yesterday at the police precincts. so we don't know what's happening, we don't know what's happening in the next couple of hours. this has been a peaceful protest. the tensions are running high, joy. >> yeah. absolutely. and one more question for you, ali. you know, we don't want to center ourselves as journalists but one of the unusual things we saw happen is the arrest of a journalist. a cnn reporter, oscar jimenez, was arrested live on tv. here it is really quickly. >> this is among the state patrol unit that was advancing up the street, scattering the protesters to that point for people to clear the area. so we walked away -- i'm sorry? >> you're under arrest. >> do you mind telling me why i'm under arrest, sir? why am i under arrest, sir?

i'm with cnn. you're arresting me live on cnn. >> if you're just tuning in you're watching our correspondent omar jimenez being arrested by state police in minnesota. >> mr. jimenez has been since released and ali as somebody who observes news around the world, this is not an ordinary thing we see in the united states, to have journalists arrested. has there been particular tension between reporters and the police specifically directed at reporters? >> no, because keep in mind, the police have disappeared from the scene for a while. the police and journalists weren't in the same place, but in this morning mr. jimenez was near the police. journalists will not be excluded from this and if they're out on the street they'll be arrested. we subsequently clarified that the journalists are not going to

be arrested for being out beyond the curfew if we need to interact or record our actions between the police and the guard men. it's unusual to see an arrest of a reporter, and doing nothing except covering the news. it was an unusual situation, quickly remedied, thankfully, joy. >> yeah. very interesting. covering it from a network that the president normally doesn't like, but it was very odd. ali velshi, thank you very much. you're doing a great job, thank you. joining me now is andrea jenkins vice president of the minneapolis city council. i want to ask you the same question. if we're at the point where journalists are being arrested that means that the public is not being allowed to know what's going on. what is your comment about that arrest? >> well, hi, joy. how are you? thanks for having me on your show tonight.

that -- that arrest was really interesting because just moments prior to mr. jimenez being arrested, they spoke with a white journalist from cnn and they let him go on about his business and then they encountered mr. jimenez and he was arrested. so i think that arrest -- i don't think it's about journalists at all. i think it's all about race and you might be aware, joy, that, you know, i have called for a -- a resolution declaring racism as a public health issue, a public health crisis and that's what i think about that arrest this morning. i thought it was so ironic that it happened on the air. it really symbolizes the very

thing that people are marching all around the country about. the unfair policing of black people. >> yeah. let me ask you about the arrest of derek chauvin. before i give you the chance to respond to his arrest and being charged with third degree murder, this is just a piece of his background. he was the subject of at least a dozen police conduct complaints. in 2006, he was one of six police officers who shot 40-plus rounds of bullets at wayne reyes after he stabbed his girlfriend and a friend. in 2008, he shot an unarmed black 21-year-old man who chauvin says grabbed for his weapon. the restraint technique that he used on mr. floyd was not a part of minneapolis police training. he is represented by tom kelly who happens to be the same man -- lawyer who got the officer who shot philando castillo in 2016 acquitted.

what do you make after the fact of all that he was still on the force and what do you make of his arrest? we should note his arrest was subsequent was to the arrest of the journalist, but your thoughts. >> yeah. you know, i think police unions all around the country have so much power and certainly as the contracts and, you know, lawmakers like myself have a role in negotiating those contracts, however, no -- there's nobody that can keep their job after 18 charges of misconduct and, you know, costing your employer thousands and thousands of dollars in lawsuits. only the union can really create

a scenario where an officer like that can keep his job and let me be very clear. i am very pro labor. i am a card-carrying union member. right now my card is updated for 2020. i'm a member of the sciu, so i'm not bashing workers, i support labor unions. but the contracts with police and jurisdictions all around this country give way too much authority to police officers. if they get fired, you know, these officers can go to another community and get rehired. many times they get rehired in the same police force that they were fired from. >> yeah. indeed. that is very much true. council woman andrea jenkins, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. thank you and be safe.

joining me is loretta lynch, who served as u.s. attorney general under barack obama. i'll ask you the same question. the idea that a police officer could have that much of a jacket essentially, that many misconduct complaints including using his weapon in that way and still be a practicing police officer, what do you make of that? >> well, thank you, joy, and thank you for focusing on this important issue. you raise a really important issue in the context of the history of this police officer and possibly the other officers who were with him. we have now seen an arrest in this case. we have seen the horrific video several times over of mr. floyd literally losing his life. that image will never be erased either from us or from his family. we have to think about that. but this issue -- and the reason why you see so much anger, so much frustration is because it's really about more than just this one case.

it is about how we police in america. whom do we allow to police in america? how do we let them regulate citizens in america? how do we let police use the incredible power that they have, which yes, can be used for good, but for so many people in this country is often a negative force against them. a force literally on their neck. so the issue of this officer's history is highly relevant. you have to look at what kind of training this officer received. the main question that i have throughout all of this is why does a uniformed police officer think that he -- it's appropriate not just for him to take this action, but that he can do it in front of other officers. most of the time, you find a situation where officers know they can do it because they have gotten away with things before. that speaks to police culture. it speaks to police training and it speaks to police leadership. >> and, you know, the other thing that i think people --

when they look at it, i think to the point that you made is that officers feel confident because it's so rare to have police officers charged with a crime like the one that mr. chauvin is charged with. i want to let you listen to the hennepin district attorney, mike freeman, and talking about the time line and how much time it took to charge officer chaufen. >> this is by far the fastest we have charged a police officer. normally it takes nine months to a year. we have to charge the cases very carefully. because we have a difficult burden of proof. we entrust our police officers to use certain amounts of force to do their job, to protect us. they commit a criminal act if they use this force unreasonably. we have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. we have had great cooperation from the fbi and from the united

states attorney general erica mcdonald. >> you know, i think the challenge that -- you know, the ordinary person has with that idea is that if a civilian did this to another civilian, there wouldn't be a need to place by prove the entire case before they're charged. is that fair, that he had to essentially is have the case all but proved before he'd even lay the charge? >> yes, and this prosecutor is absolutely correct. this case has moved incredibly quickly. one reason i believe is because the officers were fired. if they were still employed they likely would have the union rights as was alluded to by your prior guests that would allow them to delay being questioned and the delay the investigation through the exercise of their union rights and that often is a tremendous barrier to investigating police misconduct. so that may have influenced their ability to actually much more quickly.

but i think that that's what you're also seeing is this anger from the average citizen who says that look in this exact case, mr. floyd allegedly passed a bad $20 bill and he was arrested right away. we watched mr. floyd lose his life and no one was arrested right away. and those are questions that law enforcement has to answer. now, there are answers for it in some circumstances, but when you have a situation where there's so little trust and so little dependence on the word of government, when government in particular through its law enforcement is seen as the perpetrator of the incredible wrong here, you really do have to move much more quickly as they did in this case. >> well, let me you this question because i know under attorney general eric holder and also under yourself serving in the obama administration there were pattern and practice investigations implemented against police forces in which there were crimes that were of this magnitude or incidents that

produced this kind of a reaction. would you recommend that the current attorney general implement a pattern and practice investigation of this county? >> well, certainly i think you have -- you certainly have the indicia that i have seen in several similar circumstances that we did open the investigation into the police department because as i noted before, the issue beyond just this case, the tragic loss of life that we all saw was why do police officers feel that they can behave in this way with impunity? there's also the concern that i have which is that very few people start out their career placing that their knee on someone's neck so you have to look at the culture. you have to look at the training and that is exactly what a pattern and practice investigation does. we also look at the issue of this particular police department that in fact at the beginning of the obama administration reached out to the department of justice and sought assistance in terms of use of force issues and polices

issues early on. but then as we saw frankly a few years ago with the tragic death of philando castillo and others failed to put in the reforms that were recommended. this has to be an ongoing review and it has to be an ongoing process. so certainly a pattern and practice investigation would give law enforcement the ability to look at the entire department and see how they handle these important issues. >> and we are out of time, but very quickly, would you trust this department of justice to do such an investigation under william barr and his doj? >> i have to say that i certainly hope that the department remains involved in a way that provides people accountability and transparency. i also know that the local u.s. attorney will be very, very much involved as well but i think it's incumbent on all the citizens to hold the government's feet to the fire in

this investigation. and so many others. people have been down this road before, people have been through investigations before and need to hold this department of justice accountable for handling this in a way that provides accountability and transparency and justice. >> former attorney general loretta lynch, thank you so much. really appreciate you being here tonight. coming up, donald trump's feeble -- thank you so much. donald trump's feeble attempt to walk back part of the inflammatory tweet that threatened violence against looters and kamala harris will join me next. we'll get her reaction to the arrest and charges in minneapolis against one of the officers involved in the killing of george floyd. stay right there. we've got much more to get to after this quick break. we've go after this quick break out of sy, out of sy, keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor, and call 844-214-2424.

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welcome back. donald trump is being widely

condemned after his highly inflammatory ugly tweets overnight added fuel to the fire raging in minneapolis. trump not only referred to the demonstrators marching to produce the killing of floyd as thugs but called for the use of force on the streets of minneapolis saying when the looting starts, the shooting starts. now, there is historical context to that phrase. it traces back to the 20-year former miami police chief whose policy sparked race riots in the 1960s. chief walter headley likened by newspapers to birmingham sheriff connor promoted the use of deadly force amid the civil unrest over 50 years ago. >> well, i have standing orders here when the looting starts the shooting starts. >> trump is now using those exact words in the face of these deepening racial tensions today.

trump's tweet was so incendiary that twitter did same when it was reposted to the official account. amid this uproar trump claimed that it meant something entirely different. he said, looting leads to shooting. i don't want this to happen. that's what the expression put out last night means. i'm joined now by kamala harris who served as attorney general of that state of california. your response to donald trump's use of when the looting starts the shooting starts, a quite famous phrase from the civil rights era. >> joy, this man, donald trump, is unfit to be president of the united states and what he does time and time again is he uses twitter as a means of -- as a

weapon, to hurt people. and what he does not realize which is why he's not fit to be president of the united states. america is in pain right now. we're in the midst of a pandemic, but america is in pain right now because that man, george floyd, should not be dead. he is dead, he is dead, and black blood stains the sidewalks of america. and so when we are watching the protests, it is an expression of deep pain. we are talking about somebody, some mother's child. and it's happening throughout our country and it has been happening for generations. and so, you know, i really -- i'm exhausted with talking about donald trump. he doesn't understand the pain that america feels and he actually incites and i applaud twitter and jack dorsey for

disciplining him the way they have, to say that this is not the kind of word or the kind of conduct that we should expect in civil discourse. >> yeah. you know, i think a lot of people are excite exhausted with it, senator. let's talk about this particular case. what do you make of the decision to charge officer chauvin with third degree murder, do you think that was the right charge, and what do you make of the time it took, they needed all evidence despite all the video that was out. >> i mean, i have been calling on them to arrest that police officer for murder for some time now, since this happened. he clearly committed murder. we now know the number of minutes -- not seconds, minutes that he pressed his knee down on the neck of a man who was handcuffed. we are talking about an unarmed,

handcuffed man who was killed at the knee of a police officer. and so what we need to do now is we need to address this. there needs to be serious consequence and accountability. and also i would suggest that we need to take -- there needs to be accountability and other officers at the scene who clearly were aware of what was happening, if not actually participating in what happened. and there should be consequences and accountability for them. >> so you believe they should be charged as well? >> i believe that under the laws of minnesota that there is a duty and if not there should be a duty to stop what is obviously a crime happening right in front of them. they have a colleague who was committing murder right in front of them. and here's the thing about this, joy. bad cops should go to jail. period. bad cops should go to jail and bad cops are not good for good cops so this is about what's in

the best interest of the community, of the family and it's also about what's in the best interest of law enforcement. but the bottom line is -- we have two systems of justice. there are two systems of justice. when you have a president and his attorney general who should be running a department of justice investigating patterns and practice of discrimination and abuse, when you should have an attorney general under donald trump who is enforcing consent decrees as loretta lynch just talked about, but instead what do they do? two systems of justice in america. michael flynn gets off, right? meanwhile, you have ahmaud arbery, briana taylor, where is their justice? so this is where we are right now, america is in pain. people are fully and completely aware of what is going on. and the fact that there is not justice for all, not equal justice for all in america and so we need to keep fighting for those ideals and frankly we need

to elect joe biden and have a department of justice that is run where there is accountability and consequence for all behaviors that violate the law. >> and i'll make a point for the audience that if you missed it earlier today, former vice president biden appeared on cnn and on msnbc with craig melvin. he had some strong remarks about donald trump calling his remarks thoroughly irresponsible and not presidential. because you had that job of being attorney general that you have been in that prosecutor's shoes, i don't want to set you against your colleague, but senator aamy klobuchar was the hennepin county prosecutor in 2006. officer chauvin had one of his something like 19 accusations of misconduct. he was ultimately not charged by a grand jury and i'll point out

that the grand jury actually took place once senator klobuchar was sworn in as a senator. she could have charged him on her own. in hindsight should he have been charged before so he could not have been on the force and be able to even be anywhere near george floyd? >> well, i'm not familiar with that case, but i'll say this. that when we see patterns and practice of misconduct we need to take them seriously. there needs to be investigations, there needs to be a department of justice and an independent investigation into the misconduct. i strongly believe that it should be a national standard that no prosecutor's office can investigate an unlawful shooting or a police involved shooting that there should be an independent investigator, be it through the department of justice or some other office that investigates the cases and also believe, joy, we need a

national standard in terms of use of force by police officers. right now, the standard is to question whether their use of force was reasonable. well, we could find reason for just about everything. what i am arguing is that the national standard should be necessary, meaning the question will be was that use of force necessary at that very moment? this is what we need to do to push forward. but we need real reform. you know, look, i'm from california. rodney king was almost 30 years ago and we're having the same conversations over and over and over again and we know what the solutions look like. maybe more now than ever before, the coalition of who we are as americans, regardless of our race or gender will stand up and say, wedge -- we believe in the consent of justice for all. let's fight for our ideals. >> senator kamala harris, thank

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taylor. she was the 26-year-old emt who was shot and killed by three white police officers who entered the wrong apartment on an after-mid night narcotics raid back in march. yesterday, the police released the 911 call her boyfriend made after the shooting. >> operator, what is your emergency? >> i don't know what's happening. somebody kicked in the door inside my girlfriend's. >> kenneth walker, brianna taylor's boyfriend, who can hear crying and pleasing on the tape was originally charged with a crime, believe it or not. those charges have been dropped. taylor and george floyd are just two of the many instances of deadly encounters between police and people of color in this country. and for more i'm joined by the reverend al sharpton, president of the national action network and cynthia alksne, a former

prosecutor. reverend al, we have been in the middle of a few of these where the public comes out and calls for an arrest, it takes quite a while and an arrest ultimately happens. what do you make of this -- of these charges against officer chauvin today? >> well, i think that the family said it best. i have been working with the family and attorney ben crump, and president trump called floyd -- the brother of george floyd and he said to him, he told me, i just talked to him, attorney crump, that he said to the president what he said to the nation, the whole family said to the nation. and some of it will be on "politics nation" with me tomorrow night. they want first degree murder and they want the other officers arrested for murder and i think we cannot forget this prosecutor just yesterday said that there was something in the tapes that may have established that this was not a crime.

and today, he makes an arrest. he tried to clean up what he said last night. so the confidence in this prosecutor is very much a -- at a low to all of us involved. i was in minneapolis yesterday, as you know, doing a visual with the mother of eric garner. don't forget, joy, there was a tape of eric garner pleading, i can't breathe, in 2000 -- six years ago. 2014. and they never even prosecuted those officers and it took five years to get him fired. we need an overhaul of the system in terms of policy. we must remember that when president obama was in under loretta lynch who you had on earlier and eric holder, there were consent decrees in various cities that had a pattern and practice of bad policing. one of the first things that happened under the trump administration they fly tried to

fight all of the consent decrees so pattern and practice consent decrees, other things we need to strength on the make sure that it's criminal. we're not talking about bad cops, but criminal cops. if you're putting your knee on someone's throat and to the point where they are unconscious and there's no pulse and you still keep it there for another two minutes, that's a crime. at some point that becomes intent and intent to -- by the law as i understand it, i'm not a lawyer, don't plae on television, but i have common sense. intent is one of the elements in first degree murder. this family doesn't want a deposit on justice, they want full justice. >> you know, cynthia alksne, as a former prosecutor, the thing that people don't understand about the delay in the charges is that when it comes to average citizens, it's a very different situation. i want to just go a second to

midland, texas. and just walk you through a case. this is the case of a young man -- a 21-year-old man whose name is ty anders. he is arrested immediately for allegedly running a stop sign. a stop sign. police train guns on him. you can see video of multiple cars of people with guns trained on him. let's see if we can play a little bit of that video if we could. this is from may 16th, it shows the officers drawing the guns on anders. the video depicts the police with the guns drain as family and friend yell at them not to shoot him. the officers approach, they begin to detain him. his 90-year-old grandmother on a cane appears to fall on top of him. he's been charged with felony evading arrest. here's the police statement

about the arrest. the suspect refused to cooperate with officers after officers approached the subject and began detainment. the female next to the subject appeared to lose balance and fall. the female is a 90-year-old grandmother on a cane. when people see human beings treated like that, they don't -- they don't understand why an officer who's on multiple videotapes with his arm pressed down on a man's throat, they need -- or on his neck, they need more information. does it make sense to you? >> well, because i prosecute these police officer cases i know how difficult they are to win. and so we have -- it is smart to be very careful and get as much information as possible. because the goal is to win them. the goal is not have a -- just have a quick arrest. the goal is to prosecute this

police officer who killed -- killed this poor man by putting his knee on his neck for minutes and minutes after he had gone completely limp, to the point where the officer is looking around. he has his hand in the pocket. the man is obviously not a threat. and the goal is to get him convicted, it's not just to get him charged. so there -- it is important to take the time to make sure you get the statements, to make sure you can look in to all of the details of prior complaints about him. to figure out what are the prior complaints about the other people? is it time to get an independent autopsy and it looks like it's the time to do that in the floyd case. so much has to happen because of the way the statutes are written to protect the police officers, that i do understand why it does take time. i will say this. it -- this is pretty quick in a

police case. i think it was required, it should have been even quicker. i'm not saying it didn't -- you know -- but i understand why the prosecutor said this was a pretty quick actual arrest and it was. >> all right. well -- >> but let's get the conviction, joy, that's the goal. >> yeah. >> that's the goal. >> yeah. >> let's turn to the texas case for a second. >> sorry, go ahead. >> i just -- the texas case is completely heavy handed, the abuse of force. the guy was lying on the ground. his hands are in the air. he clearly doesn't have a weapon and his grandmother had to save him. it's terrible. >> yeah. >> but i think, joy -- i know you have to go to break, but i think that we must remember that when we talk about moving, we're not talking about just isolated cases. it's been case after case after case and we have been told wait. martin luther king said 55 years

ago, why we can't wait. if you wait too long you will go into the deep freeze. we have got to stop these litany of cases with judicial excuses. it's time to deal with this and we need to deal with it right now. maybe if we dealt with it before we could understand the time period but the time is up for the police to be walking around doing this on film and walking away scot-free. >> reverend al sharpton and cynthia alksne. apologize for the little bit of a delay there. we have a lot more to talk about so please don't go anywhere. back after this. please don't go anywhere back after this. so, for a second time we're giving members a credit on their auto insurance. because it's the right thing to do. we're also giving payment relief options to eligible members so they can take care of things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. right now is the time to take care of what matters most. like we've done together, so many times before. discover all the ways we're helping members at usaa.com/coronavirus

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joining me know is nbc news correspondent trymaine lee. my friend, we did this for a year about a year from the michael brown case. really starting with trayvon martin, going to baltimore. this feels like a never-ending

story. how is it different now, if it is different in your view? >> you know, i don't think so much that it's different in any way. i don't think we have gained much progress. the anguish and grief and exhaustion and the weight has only gotten heavier. i think about the last couple of weeks when you think about what happened with ahmaud arbery, when you think of briana taylor with the knockless warrants and with george floyd, taking his last breath with a police officer's knee on his neck and then after that to see that sign in minneapolis on the rooftop when it says can you hear us now and to see the buildings burning and see those masses of young people out there yelling and angry and many of them grief stricken, i don't think we have come too far. these are young people, they came up in 2012 with trayvon martin and then to -- the freddie gray and mike brown and

eric garner and here we are again. but we should never forget this kind of violence and anguish and grief is baked into america. it's never not been like this for black people in this country. so when we look back over the last five and six years, hoping for change, the only thing we did really was shift the gaze from this police violence and the state sanctioned violence to politics. but police were still killing black folks. black folks were still dying. we didn't know their names because we weren't paying attention. >> yeah. i mean, the thing is that is extraordinary is that in the midst of a pandemic that is disproportionately killing black people, black and white crowds, you know, minnesota is only 7% african-american are out there risking covid to march for police violence. that's pretty profound to me, what does that so i to say? >> i was saying to my wife, i hope this doesn't become a hot

spot for covid-19, which is describe canned to me as a heat seeking missile to the black community with all of the pre-existing conditions. the extra layer we can't mourn together or console each other in death or in life. to say that other in death and . none of the other stuff matters but right here, right now they have to yell and be heard and they have to express themselves, they said everything else be dammed and it hard to watch but you also know where that feeling is coming from. that anguish, that grief and quite prank frankly, the outrag driving them back into the streets. >> yeah, i met you covering trayv trayvon trymaine lee. it feels like ground hog day. it's never going to end. stay sane. that's what i'm telling folks now, stay safe and stay sane. up next, the latest developments on the ground in minneapolis and we'll take you there live.

>> we are continuing to follow developments from minneapolis and ali joins me now. to morgan chesky, i apologize. we school to the wrong thong. you're not ali. give me a sense where we are. we're one hour away from curfew. the governor asked folks out there to, you know, compile with the curfew to help the state and close down safely an hour from now. what's the sense that you get from the people around you of whether or not that is the mood

they are in to follow that curf curfew? >> j >>. >> reporter: joy, the sense is people are making up their mind what they will do from the 8:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. a crowd of 200, 250 people around me right now, i got done speaking to one of those here after witnessing the damage of the past couple nights, they don't know whether to protect local businesses or as he said try to take the block back, and as far as they be taking it back from would be these state patrol officers who are here in mass. they arrived this morning, joy, and they established a wide perimeter around this area. they along with the national guard are just some of the new resources we're seeing being used here in minneapolis to at least try and keep the peace after two nights in a row of extensive damage that burned dozens of buildings and covered a ten-square block area in south

minneapolis. everyone here are hoping they don't see the third night in a row of destruction, joy? >> morgan chesky, thank you very much. appreciate you. we'll be right back. much appreciate you we'll be right back. ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. woi felt completely helpless.hed online. my entire career and business were in jeopardy.

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that is our show for tonight but before we go, i want to tell you about a special that i'm hosting this sunday night with bishop william barber. we're calling it american crisis, poverty and the pandemic where we'll take an in-depth

look at the toll the coronavirus is taking on the working poor in this country, and i'll be joining lawrence o'donnell tonight at 10:00 p.m. and we'll be back here tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. for "a.m. joy." so much to do. "all in" with chris hayes is up next. tonight on "all in," america in crisis under donald trump. a raging pandemic protests around the country defining the failures of this presidency. senator cory booker on this moment and how to find our way through. plus, minnesota attorney general keith ellis son on the murder charge for the minneapolis police officer. alicia garza from black lives matter and whether there could possibly be a worse person in the oval office right now when "all in" starts right now. >> reporter: good evening from