a fourth night of protests going on in minneapolis right now. you can see there, it looks like members of the national guard and active fires burning behind

him. this is a live shot. this is happening right now. that fire continues to burn overnight. we know a bank and several other buildings were set ablaze. at one point, the governor and mayor of minneapolis meading with people to go home, going on to say what you see tonight will republicly indicated tomorrow unless we change something in what we're doing. >> look at that. this is quite apocalyptic. you can see the guardses out there. we heard from the governor overnight that they plan to send hundreds of additional national guard troops on to the streets of minneapolis and st. louis later on today, but will the u.s. mimt join them? we got an update on that a little earlier this morning. we will bring that to you. >> it will be the largest military presence in minneapolis, minnesota, in history. as we say good morning, it is saturday, may 30th.

>> it's not just minneapolis with the exclusive on the protests. it is nationwide. >> clashes, arrests, fires and outrage burned again for another night in several cities over george floyd, a black man who died on memorial day after a police officer nealed on his neck. >> hard to believe it, but this is literally hundreds of yards from where the president of the united states was sitting. this is outside of the white house. lafayette park for many of you familiar with the scene. protesters clashing with police. at one point, they took control of those barricades. there were some snipers on the rooftop of the white house for several nights in the overnight hours with their flashlights

beaming down keeping an eye on the crowd. police eventually deploying pepper spray to get things under control this morning. >> stunning images as police are playing tug of war with those protesters. tensions flared overnight in georgia. the atlanta mayor pleaded for calm. >> to what i see happening on the streets of atlanta is not atlanta. this is not a protest. this is not in the spirit of martin luther king jr. this is chaos. >> kiesha bottoms started sounding like elijah cummings did back in the baltimore riot days. also new this morning, in detroit, police confirmed at least one person was killed when someone in an suv opened fire on a group of protesters last night.

>> protests erupted overnight despite the arrest of derek chauvin. he was charged with third degree murder and second degree man slaughter. many including the family of george floyd saying that is not enough. joining us again from minneapolis is steve patterson. steve, the protests have died down there. it seems at least in the area where you are. still several fires we see burning in that area. what can you tell us? >> protesters have died down, but, obviously, i don't want to give you the impression that there is an activity. i think i can see the smouldering from that incident from where we are. helicopters circling above. we know incidents are happening across the city. we've seen it driving to where we are, but take a look at where we are. this is the mini haha post office. if you look back into the building, you can see parts of

it burning. it is continuing to burn. it has been left to burn, essentially. this is the remnants of what is left overnight. there were violent protests again last night as is evidence by the damage that is all over these neighborhoods. we've seen cars overturned, structures on fire and this continues obviously into the morning. we have seen that the police does have a presence here in the city, but they can only get to certain pockets of it. we also know, you know, based on what we saw earlier today, there were bigger rallies. there were rallies of support of what happens for the situation for memorial day. there were rallies pleading for peace and pleading for change. that all ended as soon as the

city imposed curfews started. the heeder of those rallies said it's time to go home. the response has been criticized because we have not seen boots on the ground. we have not seen firefighters tackling situations like this. the governor and the mayor said it is simply a matter of resources and get to go where critical needs have to be. however, you heard them say they were expecting the largest civilian and possibly military presence in state history as they continue to beef this up. i want to go to a press conference that was held early this morning talking about the situation where we didn't see police, but we saw protesters. listen to this. >> there's simply more of them than us. and the operation is so much broader. we are out there. i can achur you.

we are prioritizing those critical assets. >> the numbers weren't just a little bit larger than they had been the nice before when we were able to effectively move and clear out a wide swath of lake street. the numbers not only got to be bigger, they got to be more aggressive. we underestimated both the numbers and we underestimated the tactics. >> and the gr said that he expects this to last at least the next few days. so them calling in more support says it's absolutely essential to managing the situation as we go night after night after night and continue to see more protests into the night, continue to see more damage and more violence on the streets of minneapolis. it's a situation that they want to avoid, but they simply say they don't have the resources in the city to do that.

>> steve, i know you're there in the middle of the night and there are no protests near you at the moment, but the governor says they are looking into the possibility that perhaps there were some white supremacists splattered within the crowd trying to cause some trouble. no anything about that? i haven't seen it personally. as a helicopter comes right overhead of us at this point right now. haven't seen it personally, but again, it's the very early morning hours. and as we mentioned earlier, a lot of the peaceful protests, those are throughout the day. people carrying signs in support of george floyd, demanding change, demanding action, demanding civil service, demanding people come out and let their voices be heard and the mayor and the governor say they are in support of those actions. what they talking about is the criminal element that has come

out after the curfew has been imposed. we haven't seen the mass of people perpetrating that element, but we have seen the result of what is happening here. we don't know what that crowd includes. i haven't personally seen what i would describe as anarchists or white supremacists. but we have seen people roving about curious about the situation or causing trouble in the city and i think that is the situation that he is talking about. these post curfew flare-ups that we've seen in pockets across minneapolis and by all accounts we'll continue to see not only throughout the morning, but maybe in the next few days or so, guys. >> i haven't personally been to the riots in ferguson. it was very clear, at least in that situation, that a lot of people who were rioting were not from the greater st. louis area. i wonder if that's the case here. thanks, man. and reportedly the pentagon will be putting units of the u.s. army on alert for a possible operation in minneapolis. the governor there saying while

he hasn't been consulted, he finds that prudent. this is all happening white protests are launched across the country, including here in new york city. >> overnight, the new york city mayor debrasso said a full review will take place and that he never wants to see another night like this again. >> corey kauffman, what can you tell us about the protests this morning? >> hey, guys, yeah, good morning. city officials still reeling, trying to assess everything and they will be speaking as we understand it later this morning, which we will have for you. we're learning about 50 arrests made last night. that's in addition to the 70 before that. so this is night two of these protests seeming to get more and more violent as the nights go.

there's video, very disturbing video of one female protester being pushed violently by what appears to be a police officer. and two legislators came out to support people and they reportedly were pepper sprayed. >> we understand why they need to voice their anger and their pain. how did we go from a peaceful protest to what happened tonight? crowds happen in two different spots throughout the new york city region and in that brooklyn area where they tried to get into a precinct.

hundreds gathered in southern . it was the first time in months that social distancing has not been a top priority in the region. another rally is expected on saturday at the staten island location where eric garner died after he was in a choke hold with police. those key words, i can't breathe, still being a rallying cry today. six years later, many protesters feel that nothing has changed. >> and you said that mayor de blasio plans a review. this is one of the innocents he plans to put in a review of. a woman here. watch this video. walking. this is in brooklyn when an off -- you can't completely tell from that scene, but that woman was pushed to the ground from

the other footage that i've seen by an officer. and there was a higher ranking officer with him in a white police shirt. that woman is in the hospital this morning. watch it really quickly in the middle of the screen. you see it right there. she has cell phone video that she has posted online that shows her backing up, talking to the officer, telling the officer why would you like me to go. then she's shoved to the ground by the officer. no doubt, that will be one of the incident is that will be looked into today. >> most definitely. in the meantime, president trump overnight directing the pentagon to put military police on stand by for a possible operation in minneapolis. >> a lot developing this

morning. >> yeah. now they've activated military police to potentially go in for an operation into minneapolis in minnesota. that hasn't happened yet, but it is an indication of how serious things are getting as those protests have happened in recent days. you have the national guard on the scene which the president has doubted as being part of something he ordered. but know we're hearing more. take a listen to general jenson who spoke overnight. >> may have seen or heard that this evening the president directed the pentagon to put units of united states army on alert to possible operation in minneapolis. while we were not consulted as it relates to that, i do believe it's a prudent move to provide other options available for the governor if the governor elects

to use those resources. >> the president hasn't yet addressed all of those disturbing images overnight. he did tweet out some political statements talking about the leadership in minnesota being mostly democrats and saying that he wants in november those people to be voted out. that was more his message overnight. we haven't heard him talk about what we saw outside the white house gates where even secret service had to put the entire campus on hockdown. the president will head to florida today after that second attempt for a spacex scrub. so it's possible we will hear more from him later on today. >> and we just saw an officer in a bullet proof vest walk behind you.

do you see in the remnants from that? >> there is debris. we have seen some barriers that have been removed and placed to the side that appear to be damaged. but all is quiet here this morning. the secret service here is equipped to deal with this. this was the most intense version of that we've seen in a long time. you had even police with rye yost gear running from the white house out to try to help with those clashes that we saw overnight in lafayette park. and i was just talking to the agents here today. they expect the same for tonight. but, again, this is a building that is protected by so many people in any kind of situation. they are prepared for that. but those images stunning that we saw just to hear outside the white house gates of pennsylvania avenue.

>> i do know that or did see that there were many d.c. police officers under cover in the crowd trying to keep some sort of calm. monica alba, thank you. let's bring in rachell richie now. what is your reaction first to the events that we've been seeing overnight? >> good morning, lindsay and kendis. what i'm seeing happening in minneapolis is bringing up some painful memories. what i'm seeing is people who are tired of police brutality in this country. and i think it's very upsetting that mike freeman, the prosecutor, tried to gain brownie points by bringing up

the freddie gray case. it was not until a reporter asked him what gdegree of murde that he said tee. so he tried to pacify us with these very weak and insulting charges for the murder of george nationwide. >> and he tried to do a little bit of celebration the previous day saying he's the only prosecutor that has prosecuted a police officer for shooting somebody that was an australian white woman and the cop was a black cop. but that was a whole other matter and he didn't point out those details. what do you make to the president's reaction to all of these protests? there were at least two tweets from the president, one may 1st, one may 29. the may 1st one where he said the governor should give a little and put out the fire.

these are very good people, but they are angry. the 29th one dealing with black folks, these thugs are dishonoring the memory of george floyd, won't let that happen. just spoke to the governor. the military is with us all the way. what was the difference there? >> yeah. the armed white folks in michigan and you had black folks who weren't necessarily armed in minnesota. >> yeah. kendis, i'm not surprised. the president is very clear on who he is. people have to stop reacting to him. he's told us who he is. .him calling white people thugs or whatever else they want to call it, i really don't care. my focus is what are we going to do next? after the protests are over, what is the plan? i know there's a lot of people coming out saying, you know what? we need to have arrests. we need to have -- but the playerive has to change. we have seen police officers

arrested and we've seen them charged and we've seen them acquitted. the goal is convictions and penalty penalty because when these bad cops commit crimes against citizens in their communities, that is who is writing the checks for these civil penalty wes the taxpayers. that has to change. we should not be paying people who brutalize us. that is unacceptable. laws have to change. the buildings are going to be rebuilt, target is going to be reopened. what does that mean for us? the question should no longer be who next, it should be what next. >> we've seen many officials quoting martin luther king jr., but overnight, we heard minnesota governor tim walz saying you're not getting back at the officer who tragically killed george floyd by looting a

town. >> i love how people try to pick out snippets of what martin luther king said. he also said at the end of that that he understood the riot. he talked about the fact that he was booed by young people and he had to go home and think about why were they booing me when i'm trying to fight for them? and he realized that it was because for so long, they had told young black people to dream, this is going to happen. and that is why he asked the question what do you do about a dream deferred? and he understood why they were booing him. so yes, he preempd nonviolence, but this is not just about police brutality. this is about hundreds of years of systemic attic racism in this

country. this is rooted deep within our culture, within our dna. and you have to think that people are not working right now. they don't have money, they're cooped up in their home and all that truss tragz has come out in the streets. >> and these protests are in -- it goes back and back and back for many years. we'll have to leave it there. appreciate your time. msnbc's ali velshi will be live in minneapolis in the come hours. and the coronavirus, just how long the disease has been in the u.s. plus, a positive case in the ozarks.

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we're back now with the breaking news and the big news from overnight, the pentagon taking the rare step of orring the army to put essential active

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breaking news this morning, the family of george floyd and their attorney calling for first degree murder charges against fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin. >> chauvin was charged with second degree murder. joining us now is katie feng. thank you for being here. talk about the differences between first degree murder and third degree murder. how much more difficult would it be to prove first degree in this case? >> so the reason why we're looking at third degree murder

charges is because of the issue of intent. first degree murder is the premeditation. it's the formation of intent prior to the act occurring. i think the hennepin county da took the easy way out for now, but i want to tell our viewers that something called up charging is still available. that means increasing the charges if the evidence comes out later on that it's necessary to charge something higher than third degree murder. but i was just talking to the director and saying, you know, we don't have jury trials right now, kendis and lindsay, because of the coronavirus pandemic. so there's a lot of things that are going to be at play procedurally even though officer chauvin has now been arrested and charged with a crime. will he go to a jury trial anytime soon? in addition, we are learning there are at least 18 complaints

filed against this officer, two of which are closed and another officer who was on scene who was on mr. floyd's body had six complaints you to internal affairs including a 2017 lawsuit for excessive force. so more information is coming out and as it comes out, will that affect the prosecution? and the answer is yes. >> eric, we know that police released body cam video. it was heavily redacted. what can you tell us about maybe what if anything they're trying to preserve in this case in terms of evidence. >> well, they're going to try and preserve everything because the entire country is watching this case. so they're not going to let anything get destroyed. i imagine that right now what they're doing is coupling through each of the body cameras and any coverage they can get

from members of the public. there are audio statements that some of the -- one of the officers, i think, said at some point that he was concerned about him going into a rage -- >> excited delirium. >> thank you. i forgot the term. >> and that is important to the state of mind of these officers. the conduct here is absolutely reprehensible, but the manner in which it's been charged, which i know has gotten a lot of criticism thus far, everybody is saying it should be upcharged to murder two or murder one, but quite frankly, based upon the evidence that's been revealed thus far, and there might be more, but based on that evidence, not only would murder one or murder two not fit, but quite frankly, the murder three charge that they've leveled against him at this point most likely won't be sustained and will be subject to a credible

challenge by any worthy defense lawyer. >> and there are some other -- with the initial reports of his autopsy that i feel a good defense attorney could go through very well. let's talk about the complaint a little bit more. it describes some of the horrific details of floyd's last moments. what stands out to me is this part where the defendant had his knee on floyd's neck for 8:46, 2:53 of this was after floyd was nonresponsive. katie, as you heard that, do you see that sort of information right there, talk about the amount of evidence that that might.sprebt in this particular case. >> you see that we actually have objective timed evidence in terms of the amount of time that officer shaufin was on mr. floyd's body. but keep in mind, too, there are

at least three other officers on mr. floyd's body, as well. so that autopsy report that you just mentioned and that we just read in conjunction with the complaints in this case, it should be taken into consideration that despite the size and maybe pre-existing health conditions for mr. floyd, having four grown men on your body for more than a few minutes is evidence that there was something criminally going on at the time of this incident. and that is why, with respect, i do think that at a minimum the third degree murder charge which carries up to 25 years in imprisonment would survive any type of challenge brought against it in terms of the elements of the crime. >> eric, yesterday, new york governor andrew cuomo said in speaking about that body cam video that was heavily redacted, limited audio, he said more evidence needs to be released to the public because the silence is deafening.

how do you balance the need to preserve evidence, to make a strong case with the public's right to transparency? >> that is a very challenging dynamic in a case like this which is so emotionally charged. if the community believes that it's being hitten from them or otherwise sanitized, they will undermine their confidence which is one of the biggest problems which is causing the riots. >> thank you, guys. the floyd case is raising new questions about what type of force police can use to apprehend someone. >> and specifically was the hold used against floyd ever acceptable? e hold used against floyd ever acceptable dfather of 14. a newlywed... a guy who just got into college...

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breaking news this morning, minnesota is in the middle of the largest national guard deployment in the state's history. you are looking at live images of a building on fire, one of many set across the city overnigove overnight after many nights of protests. joining us right now is former police officer and author of "police brutality matters." i have a question for you. as a former cop, i couldn't help but notice the difference this week where you had peter manfredonia, this kid accused of killing two people and went on a six-day manhunt, taken into custody quite fine. the dylann roofs of tshot up emmanuel church.

and george floyd accused of possibly writing a bad check or bad $20 bill, and he dies that way. is that -- how are cops -- do you guys see color when cops are arresting people? i just don't understand. >> you're not supposed to but, yes, officers see color. i have noticed in my years of policing when you have individuals not from the community policing a poor black community they -- the threat level seems to be higher. i have seen the same officers police a middleclass community, predominantly white, and the policing is different. it is the officer's perception which equates to the amount of force they use. so if i see you as dangerous, i'm going to use a lot more force. as you know, the perception of officers' danger level dictates the amount of force he uses.

>> as you go to any scene, period, black is seen as more dangerous than a white person as a police officer, the threat level is higher? >> not every officer. but my experience -- because i worked in low income community because i come from low income. i wanted to police my community. i noticed officers who wasn't from the community, they would just -- their threat level would be a lot higher than mine because there's the unknown. they perceived the black poor community was a lot more dangerous. when you have an officer's perception, the danger level is a lot higher, he will respond to his level of danger. >> would more diversity in the ranks, would it help if more people were on the force that looked like the people they were policing? >> yeah. i'm quite sure it would. and not just only the color. it would help is more people

from that community come police that community. because we've seen black officers use excessive force. >> yeah. >> you have to be from that community is my experience. because you're from that community so your perception is different than somebody who is not from that community. i worked alongside white officers from the suburbs and we're handling a domestic and they're standing there holding their gun, they have their hands on their gun. when an officer has his hand on his gun, he believes the perception level is that it's more dangerous. when we would talk bit, i thought something was going to happen. i thought something was going to pop. i didn't see that. we get into a back and forth conversation. he said where were you raised? >> it does come down to that, the upbringing. we need to try to change the mind-set of how people are

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