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something nobody expected. the police and national guard, state police and other agencies. i didn't see the minnesota state police at all. they started moving backward for well over a mile. as far as i can see, at one point they stopped and did running battle with the prote protesters with tear gas. protesters did not pull back. >> you are not getting back at the police officer that tragically killed george floyd by looting a town. >> a challenge we face and the
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challenge the mayor faces is we have to do it with ensuring the safety of those people and ensuring legitimate people who want to try and express their grief. folks out there right now want nothing more than to enticed into conflict. >> yeah. i don't have to list them. i don't know what cities they're in. all right. this is ali velshi here. i am in midtown minneapolis. my colleague is joining me in new york for our coverage this morning. look at the situation. this is after last night's protest in minneapolis. a popeyes that's burned down. you have fire engines under the escort of members of the national guard here for protection. they were not able to fight the fires overnight because of the protesters around the city. this is a city that has just been lifted from curfew. curfew went into place at 8:00
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p.m. local time. 9:00 p.m. eastern time. it was lifted at 7:00 a.m. for all intents and purposes, there was no curfew. people were all over the place all night. fires were burning and fires continue to be burning. this is not the only city where this is happening. there are fires and protests and violence in cities across america. let me give you a taste of what those are where there were protests. protests in new york. in the 88th precinct. in brooklyn. protesters tossed rocks and bottles and eggs at police. 100 people were arrested there. in los angeles, protesters blocked highway 101. the lapd declared an unlawful assembly for all of downtown. they shut it down. in san jose, three dumpsters are fires and windows were smashed. in washington, d.c., the secret
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service order ed the white hous locked down. the crowd marched up to the trump international hotel chanting i can't breathe and no justice, no peace. in kansas city, there were 150 to 200 protesters gathered at the country club plaza. protests in kansas city were peaceful, but four people had guns. in atlanta, quite a scene there. at least police car was set on fire and cnn headquarters was broken into and vandalized. cincinnati had hundreds of protesters closing down traffic on interstate 75 for about 45 minutes. ohio's governor mike dewine called the death of george floyd horrific and expressed regret at not addressing the issue at his covid-19 briefing. in oakland, california, thousands stopped traffic and threw fireworks and set fires in
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oakland. jake ward got hit with some of the tear gas there. yazmin, that is not a full list of the protests. >> it sis incredible, ali. let's bring it up again. over the last 24 hours, this has bubbled over into all of these cities. you think about atlanta. the birth place of the civil rights movement. the birth place of dr. martin luther king jr. a mile away from where i sit. a woman shoved violently to the ground. ali, this is obvious this is a country that is angry right now. that is divided right now. while nobody is condoning the looting and violence that is happening across the country, i think we all know as you and i, ali, have covered this over the last couple years whether it was
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trayvon martin or eric gardner and now george floyd that this needs to be dealt with. authorities and lawmakers need to get to the core of what is happening in the country and the african-american population is angry and upset. as we watch these images across the country. ali. >> we will through the course of the hour talking to people to shed some light on this thing. one issue in minneapolis was they were expecting the arrest of at least one of the officers which they got yesterday. a bit of a prisurprising delay. derek chauvin has been charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the case of the death of george floyd. the family has released a statement in which it says the arrest of former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin for the brautal killing is a first
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step. we expected a first-degree murder charge. we want a first-degree murder charge. we want to see the other officers arrested. we call on the authorities to reverse the charges to reflect the culpability of the incident. yazmin, the third precinct police station is where the four police officers worked. the protesters would like all four of those police officers to be charged. they said last night when the curfew was imposed, they are not leaving until the others are arrested. what happened last night is just before 9:00 when the kcurfew cae into place, police announced that you will be arrested. then they sent out tear gas canisters. i picked one up on the way. they septembnt out tear gas cans and they walked back.
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they walked backward for over a mile. protesters followed them. the protests overcame the police resistance to the protests and the curfew. i want to go to the chairman of the congressional black caucus. hakeem jeffries. what is your reaction of what has been done in minneapolis in terms of the charges against derek chauvin, but not against the other officers? >> the charge against derek chauvin is a step in the right direction. more needs to be done. multiple officers on the scene stood by and did nothing or perhaps assisted in subduing george floyd in the inhumane fashion. a full and complete investigation needs to take place and every single officer needs to be held accountable for the murder that unfolded before
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america. >> what do you make of the delay? the fact this happened on monday and protesters had video. first one piece of video and two pieces of video. then three pieces of video. the county attorney here in hennepin county said there was some evidence that did not support a criminal charge. people we were talking about on the streets said what more do you need? once there was video, there would be justice and now there is ample video. we talked about this over the last few years. there is ample video in the cases. for the people on the streets protesting for the last four nights here and across the country, the way of looking at it is what will help? if there is video and there is not an arrest, what does justice look like for african-americans? >> in that is wh >> that is what is at the core of the violence? it played itself out before the
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eyes of the world and american people and there is no officer accountability at the end of the day. here in new york city, of course, a great deal of frustration because we have been down this road multiple times. in the 1990s, an innocent africa immigrant shot at tand killed. sean bell in 2005 or 2006, up on the eve of his wedding day. shot at and killed. 50 shots were fired at him. he was unarmed. the officers were found not guilty. then in 2013, eric gardner choked to death in plain sight and daniel panteleo was found
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with no charge for the civil rights killing. these are three of the names. there are names like this across america. that's the frustration that you are seeing right now. >> some of the proptesters were standing in if frofront of the reading the names and describing what happened to him. eric gardner saying i can't breathe. you watch this man in the words of former detective mark clar s clarksson. we discussed these things. we he thought trayvon martin was a tipping point and mike chael brown was a tipping point. the president of the united states gave what some people thought gave a much-needed address yesterday and he talked about china exclusively.
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he had no comment about this except inn secendiary ones. >> no reasonable person expects a scentilla of leadership coming from 1600 pennsylvania avenue at this time. we need to step up in change to be trans fortive and address the social injustice in america and address the economic injustice throughout america. these are protests that are taking place that are multiracial in nature. this is not just the african-american community that are you seeing expressed. here in brooklyn, it is a multiracial group of people who recognize that something is very wrong in the country and real action must take place. hopefully you will see that from the united states congress.
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>> congress member, thank you very much. i'm sorry we keep having these discussions and i can say with certainty that this will not be the last time. congressman hakeem jeffries. i want to show you what i have in my hand. there are various versions of these. the things fired by police and national guard and by the various authorities here. gas canisters. lots of tear gas. rubber bullets and flash bang grenades. that is what is happening on the streets. one of my coal helleagues with dealing with the social media side. he got hit in the side by a national guard person last night. he was not injured. he was a welt. we don't have things identifying us as press. i guess in the large crowd it is not clear who is whom. that is the kind of danger. you will see the national guards
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member standing around here. they have guns with active fire in them. they have their hands on their triggers in many cases and have the entire time. when we got into the parking lot this morning, i'll ask miguel to show you what i have. shell casings. some are 9 minullimeters and s e some .40s. we have a burned out car here. this is very much an active situation. in baltimore, they were supposed to calm it down with the curfew. that did not happen. i want to bring in the lead organizer. the host of pod save the people and campaign zero. britney cooper is the author at rutgers department of africa studies.
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britney, good morning. i'll start with you. when i was on tv last night, i was on with brian williams. we were covering the protesters moving toward the fifth precinct now. that then after i left that scene, the protesters converged on the fifth district. duray, it was an active scene in city after city after city of people who were frustrated not just by the lack of arrest of the first officer until midday yesterday, but lack of the arrests of other offers. it felt like more that last night and as i watched it across the country. >> you know, i used to live in minneapolis when property tests began. i know it well. you know, you think about this. the police killed the same amount and rate.
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we all saw the killing of george floyd. we saw it happen in real-time. if you know, i think people are fed up. in 2014, it was new for a generation. the reality is the police have killed more people since 2014, not less. what you are seeing is people saying enough is enough. it is more new people outside than we had in 2014. i think over the years, people have tried to entertain some of the things we have been told were solutions. i think people are fed up. >> britney, i want to talk to you about a bit of what was in the state charging document. referring to former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin and the now famous picture of him kneeling on the neck of george floyd. casually with his hand in his pocket. while observers were telling him not to do so. the complaint reads chauvin had
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his knee on mr. floyd's neck for 2:53 after mr. floyd was nonresponsive? how do they know? there was video. you could see it. we all watched that. he said i can't breathe, i can't breathe. then suddenly he wasn't saying it. the officer jay alexander told investigators that he checked mr. floyd's right wrist for a pulse and said i couldn't find one. after determining there was no pulse, there was clearly no thrashing about. there was no resistance from mr. floyd. they -- the officer kept his knee on his neck for another 2:53. i get in the swimming pool and i don't have air for three seconds and the most panicked i have been in my life. this is what people were having a hard time with. this looked -- many people are
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using this term like a lynching. >> it was a lynching. it was deliberate. this officer wanted to make sure that george floyd was dead and wanted to do it after inflicting maximum distress. i know we don't like to inscribe intent. we are always subjected to the most extreme conditions. look, let's remember that all of these folks are in the street in the middle of the pandemic. we have been told that large mass events are super spreader events. so you must ask why would black folks who have been disproportionately ravaged by coronavirus decide it matters we be in the streets across the country? it is because this is not just about george floyd. this is about massive
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incompetence that has happened in the last decade, but acutely in the administration. so people are frustrated about the loss of jobs. people are frustrated and scared about the mismanaging of the pandemic and ravaging our communities. there is a distinct and deep sense in a moment where black people are dying massively every day where we are disproportionately represented because of coronavirus that the police still think this is a moment to be callus and take black life as folks are going about the day to have some semblance of normalcy. we have no breaks. we're tired. we needed an outlet. this is why folks are in the streets. let's make sure we get what's relevant here. >> that is right. deray, let me ask you about eric gardner and chokeholds and what police's duty is apprehending
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someone. campaign zero is involved in doing that. minneapolis police policy says officers have a quote duty to intervene if they see excessive force being used. they have a duty to intervene. how did that play out with george floyd? >> it is interesting. i'm reminded all of the race related protests in american history have been on the heels of police violence. this is no exception. we think about the policy. it is interesting. this is the only thing we know. in minneapolis, remember, chokeholds are not banned. restric restriction of the air way is not banned. i believe the police officer will see he was using an approved tactic. the duty to intervene, he clearly saw the others did not
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intervene. because they did not intervenei. that clause exists because activists pushed hard in minneapolis to get that in there. it is beautiful it is there. had the officers fired in minneapolis will get rehired. i hope they fix that in this negotiation. >> deray, thank you for joining me. lead organizer for black lives matter. britney cooper is the associate professor at rutgers. thanks to both of you for joining me this morning and continuing this discussion. i want to send it back to my colleague in new york. yazmin. >> ali, britney making a good point. every creed and color pouring into the streets risking their
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lives for this among a pandemic. states are reopening, ali. nearly 103,000 americans have now died from the disease. ali, as you know, this figure is continuing to rise. glo globally the pandemic spread. now president trump is quote terminating the united states relationship with the world health organization over the pandemic response. the move is criticized by the republican chair of the health committee. lamar alexander. hard look at mistakes the organization made is worthwhile. the middle of the pandemic is not the time to do so. the supreme court rejected the emergency appeal by the california church challenging state limits at worship
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services. chief justice john roberts joined the judges in denying the requests. it is intended to stop the spread of covid-19 violated the consti his opinion, justice roberts wrote the restrictions quota pe quote appear consist sent with the first amendment. here at home, several states and cities and particularly in the south should expect a second wave of the outbreak. that is not stopping people from enjoying the spring weather. >> very liberating to be outside right now and to have businesses open up. you know, while we're keeping safety precautions in check. it's been nice. >> i want to make sure that everybody is comfortable and you have space out here. that everybody feels great about coming out and they know the dallas zoo is a safe place to
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come. >> joining me now is cori coffin. cori, talk about what the city was going through in the brooklyn area. we are talking about a possible reopening among the pandemic. the city has been on lockdown for last three months. bring us up to date as to what you know. >> reporter: nearly three months and this couldn't be a more crucial time, yazmin. the city is the hottest of all hot spots and the city locked down the longest. the last to reopen here. the governor giving the date of june 8th for reopening. all of this happening among the protests. we had night two of protests yesterday. that escalating violence continued. of course, we saw some of that escalation in brooklyn where protesters tried to breach the precinct. as they were pushed back, they
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lit an empty police van on fire. we saw hordes of protesters come out in lower manhattan. for the first time in months, masks and social distancing was not a priority. we did see plenty of people wearing masks as they were protesting yesterday. they thought it was important enough to come out and have their voices be heard while protecting themselves. there were people not wearing masks coming out and making sure that they were among the numbers getting voices heard for all of this. now as we know it, the reopening will continue. i think there is a worry from city leaders that with all of the protests going on and the closeness that everybody is in and tight quarters, there might be a spike in cases in the next two weeks. that's going to be right around the timing of june 8th. we will see where that leads us. new york city for phase one is some retail with curbside pick
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up and construction and manufacturing. >> cori coffin in new york city. thank you. ali, we are dealing with the split screen moment. pandemic we have been dealing within the coupntry with the lat three months and aftermath of the protests of george floyd and treatment across the country. >> we have an election campaign and we have an unprecedented presidency in which the president has this week taken m umbrage with social media and twitter labeling his tweets problematic and requiring further research. where the president has got it wrong and where the social media companies have it wrong is a discussion we will have after this. it's important given what a big platform twitter is for the president. i have jennifer and roger with
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our continuing coverage of the protests across america continues from minneapolis. i'm ali velshi. let's give you a picture of what's going on. they are digging into the street. that's the electric and gas utili utility. they are cutting the gas lines here. there is so much damage. that was the bank. hardware store and nail shop next to it. look at this burned out car. this is just one tiny corner of midtown minneapolis. we got popeyes chicken that is on fire over there. these firefighters haven't been able to quench these fires or put them out overnight because they were not able to get freedom to move around the
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streets. it is only the national guard escort they have that allowed them to actually do that. anyway, in the middle of this, the president tweeted. he tweeted out as part of another tweet. when the looting starts, the shooting starts. that became another target of twitter because they suggested it might be inciting violence. these thugs are dishonoring the memory of george floyd. i won't let that happen. spoke to the governor and told him the military is with him all the way. any difficulty and we will assume control. when the looting starts, the shooting starts. twitter took exception to that. the president then issued an executive order against social media companies. saying they have been against him and freedom of speech. i want to talk to the experts on this.
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roger mcnamee is with me. he is the author of the book called "zucked." joining me now. thanks to both of you for being here. jennifer, what is the impression of the spat with twitter and the president and underlying law behind it? >> it is long overdue, ali. i just know we could simply think this is a twitter issue. this is really a presidential propaganda issue. the president has been using social media to circumvent the press. no wonder we are waking up in a country of protests. people see it. they see what is happening now. we don't need twitter to step up and to take accountability here and engage in good corporate citizenship.
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we need congress to look at federal propaganda acts to make sure the president isn't continuing to spread the hateful speech and influence people in this way. >> roger, let's talk about the remarkable relationship between twitter and donald trump. donald trump is twitter's best client, one would assume or best users. twitter is one of the best things that happened to donald trump. his main messaging for policy and opinion and for dog whistles. what is your expensense of how plays out? >> ali, it is simple. the controversy is a made up thing to distract attention from the issue. more than 100,000 americans have died from the covid-19 pandemic. the president has failed to muster reasonable public health response. he goes after anything that is a
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bright shinny object. the reality is trump is nothing without social media. particularly facebook, youtube and twitter as a way to go over the press and communicate directly with people and manipulate public opinion. the issue is section 230 of the communications decency act which exists and been there since 1996. it was designed to -- >> i'll ask the produce tore r it up on the screen. >> it was two years before google was founded. designed to protect it from being sued when it was making a good faith effort to moderate speech. it is interpret ed by courts and the city as a blanket immunity. the result is violations of consumer protection. you are seeing things with grinder. people are having their name attached to false things causing all kinds of human misery.
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the cases have just been one after the other. the industry is not huge. it doesn't need that same pro r protecti protection. the challenge is having the internet with free speech is super important. we want to modify it to eliminate business practices like facebook, instagram, twitter that amplify the angry voices to get profits. i think you can do that by banning algorithms which is the driver of hate speech of conspiracy theories online. >> by the way, facebook uses a great deal of. jennifer, the response from mark zuckerberg was very different from that of jack dorsey of twitter. listen to mark zuckerberg. >> we have a different policy. i think than twitter on this. i just believe strongly that
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facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth of everything that people say online. i think in general private companies shouldn't be in the position of doing that. >> jennifer, what do you make of that difference? >> that's been his old mantra. i hope the american people can see through that statement today. the difference being is that facebook is a controlled company. zuckerberg controls the entire company. twitter has, you know, more of a normal corporation. it has activist investors. i would love to hear what roger thinks of this, too. there is silver lake partners trying to apply pressure to jack dorsey. i don't think this is just jack taking the action all by himself. the american public.
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>> roger, your sense of that? why facebook has not taken the right decision? >> ali, i think mark zuckerberg has lost the plot here. you know, the notion that facebook doesn't moderate speech on its platform is ridiculous. they took down the lincoln project advertisement that was anti-trump. they have every day the algorithms used to determine what people see. it is nonsense. >> thanks to both of you for being with me. roger mcnamee. jennifer grygiel. thanks to both of you.
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when we come back, we are joined by the reverend al sharpton who was here in minneapolis a couple of days ago. he has been working with the family and some protesters. also joining me is roland martin who went to the same high school as george floyd growing up. they are with us on the other side. you're watching msnbc. her side you're watching msnbc. ♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier. overnight, they became our offices, schools and playgrounds. all those places out there are now in here. that's why we're still offering fast, free two day shipping on thousands of items. even the big stuff. and doing everything it takes to ensure your safety. so you can make your home... everything you need it to be. wayfair. way more than furniture.
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we are in a state of emergency. black people are dying in a state of emergency. we cannot look at this as an isolated incident. the reason why buildings are burning are not just for our brother george floyd. they're burning down because people here in minnesota are saying to people in new york, to people in california, to people in memphis, to people all across this nation enough is enough.
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>> you are looking at members of the minnesota national guard. helping out with the fire extinguishing this morning. escorting minneapolis fire teams. they were not able to get out through the course of the night. last night, another 200 national guard were activated. there were 500 originally. that went up to 700. we heard from the governor's office. 1,000 more national guard service members are activated right now. the governor walz has authorized the national guard to increase the strengths by 1,000 soldiers. it brings the total up to 1,700 soldiers and airmen on active duty. the largest deployment for the minnesota national guard in the 164-year history. that is our breaking news we have right now. i want to continue the discussion about what's been
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going on here in minneapolis. i want to bring in my two guests. reverend al sharpton and the president of the national action network. he was here with me in minneapolis a couple of days ago. roland martin is the host of unfiltered. he is wearing the colors of his high which is the same high school from which i don't thige graduated. reverend, let me start with you. you were here on wednesday when te tensions were high. there was an expectation of the arrest of four officers. finally on friday, the arrest of one officer on the charge a lot of the protesters and family feel is lower than it should have been. three still remain at large. america is protesting. what do you make of what has happened so far? >> well, i think that in my conversations with the family
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and in speaking at the vigil on wednesday with community leaders and faith leaders, clearly the arrest of the officer is a step, but it is a step that does not nearly answer the call for justice when you look at the tape and look at the crime. a third degree murder and not arresting the other three does not equal four police men standing there while one pressed this man into his state of unconsciousness and then to his death. this is inadequate. this has been happening all over the country. this is what we have been fighting for for years. the family attorney ben crump has been a legal gladiator in many cases. said we need murder one. we need the other three police men arrested and need to continue the protests. in new york today, the mother f
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of eric garner, we are going to the scene of that crime and have a vigil and justice for george floyd today in new york. people around the country are gathering. we said we would do it peacefully. there are some forces that have gotten out of line. the overwhelming majority have done it peacefully. we will be announcing funeral plans for later this week. there will be services in minneapolis and on to houston and north carolina. we intend to stay on this as we do fighting for justice even when the initial media attention is gone. we stay for national action network. we'll be there. >> row laland, you have taken h from the right wing groups. i have been characterizing this as mostly peaceful protests with some elements that are not peaceful involved in the looting. across america and minneapolis in particular, this is a
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racially diverse place. many protesters are white and many are protesting the long injustices that the reverend is talking about and the innjustics in the past couple weeks. you know, a lot of protesting. there are always folks on the fringes of protesting that do things we don't like. like the damage to public property. there is a deep-seeded anger that you and i have been talking about 10 or 15 years? >> further than that. you look at the history of race riots or rebellions, they were preceded by police brutality. we don't want to deal with this troubling aspect that we have in the country. where cops can operate in impunity. you focus on the video. that was a cop in delaware five years ago. thomas webster who kicked a black man in the head. he had his hands up and going down. going down to the floor.
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kicked him in the head. found not guilty. when reverend talks about him being arrested. the issue is not the cop being arrested. the issue is what happens when you go to trial. there are people who feel police officers are not properly held accountable and we are seeing them get off on a consistent basis and you talk about the lower charges. juries are loathe to convict officers for first-degree murder. michael slager. hung jury. he's in prison on the civil rights violations. we must deal with that. that's why it continues. >> reverend, what sort of leadership is needed to make this change? the calls here are for the arrest of the three other officers as roland says and you have shown in the work for decades, this is a systemic issue over what is happening in
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minneapolis over the next coming days. >> we have to reform and change the laws and putting people in the position of power that will be accountable. we have seen in cases as ben crump has been working with the national action network. when you had the right prosecutor on the right case. i agree the point is the trial. you won't get a trial without an arrest which is why the family wants to see them all arrested. you can charge and have the charges where the jury has the benefit of choosing which charge that they feel is proven. that all starts with the arrest with the prosecutor to deal with this and with oversight. we also must put in real perspective that under president
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obama's administration of a c consent degree that did not punish police that broke the law. those patterns were dismissed. those agreements in terms of putting the cities under consent decr decrees. we can appeal to the federal government. >> roland -- >> ali. yes. >> one of the things that happens with the protests is a #sayhisname so it doesn't -- the person at the center of it doesn't get forgotten. you will hear eric garner name and george floyd's name. you went to the same school as george floyd.
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you didn't overlap. make it personal for us about george. >> well, you know, one of the most prominent high schools in all of houston school district. i had his friends i had his friends on the other day. he was a christian. he was somebody who believed in ending violence. this was somebody who was moving to minneapolis to simply do the work of evangelizing and also for a job, and so his death should not be in vain. but here's what has to happen, ali. everything reverend sharpton says is correct. america only responds to money. america only responds to money. the transgender bathroom deals changed when american corporations stepped up and said, we will pull out of your states if you pass these bills. we need big business in america. the largest employers in minneapolis to change. they put pressure on cities and states, then they change. big business has to step up in america in police brutality.
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>> thanks very much for joining me -- >> a lot of the protests, i want to say this, a lot of the protests have also hit the private sector to be saying that at the funeral service they should not be given a free pass. >> reverend, thank you, roland, thank you for joining me this morning. of course our coverage will continue here in minneapolis and in cities across the country and more importantly, of the underlying issue, this isn't just about the killing of another black man at the hands of police. this is a larger issue. here's some of what you're seeing from across the country in terms of protests. it. on... it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some-rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue.
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i'm ali velshi in minneapolis, the special coverage continues, my colleague yasmin vossoughian in new york for me. this is as much a national story now as it is a minneapolis story because the underlying issue of police violence and generally speaking violence against african-american men and women has been something we've lived with as roland and the reverend were saying for years for decades, then it's been especially poignant in the last few weeks. >> yeah, i mean, as we've heard on air over and over again, this is about systemic racism in this country and police brutality against african-american men. as you've been talking with
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guests throughout the hour, you mention ed a lot about this third degree murder charge. it reads this, a person not intending to cause the death of a person does end up causing that death, quote, by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and invincing a depraved mind and this part is important, without regards for human life. that is why when you bring up that two minutes and 53 seconds that schauvin left his knee on george floyd's neck, that is astounding to think of. >> i would ask everybody to take their phone and go to the stopwatch and press the start button and let it run for 2 minutes and 53 seconds.
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that's how long they were on his neck after he was not responsive. he was struggling breathing for a long time before that. 2 minutes and 53 seconds is an awful long time. >> ali, just quickly -- >> oh, yeah. >> yeah, no, i was quickly going to say and that is why so many of the protesters are calling for charges against the other police officers because you had four police officers total involved. you had one overhead who was looking on what was happening. you had chauvin with his knee on george floyd's neck and you had two additional police officers as we saw from that alternate video that emerged yesterday restraining george floyd's legs. >> let's take a look at some of the reaction to all of this that we've been seeing from across the country. >> we need justice for george floyd. we allens wi witnessed his murd broad daylight. we're broken and we're disgusted. we cannot normalize this pain. >> i think what's painful about it is the frustration that yet
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another black man has died, unarmed black man at the hands of police officers but i've seen this pattern play out where you see an uproar of outrage, but then we get back into a regular system. >> as a system you're flawed. you're not only flawed, you're just -- you're wrong on every level. and today's time that's what's known. it's known that i can bring harm your way by just telling someone that you're black. >> two systems of justice in america, michael flynn gets off, right? meanwhile, you have ahmaud arbery, briana taylor, where is their justice? america is in pain, and the fact that there is not justice for all, not equal justice for all in america, and so we need to keep fighting for those ideals. >> i'm not scared. i'm hurt. i'm angry, but i ain't scared. every race here, i love you.
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but it comes to a point now where if you love me and you're not standing on the side of me. >> i promised them i'd do anything in my power to see justice is served for george. you know, we must. we have to do this. it's who we are as a country. we have to step up. we have to step up at this point. >> we're not afraid of the moment. all i wanted to do is let you know that we're not afraid to stand. >> sorry. >> celebrities -- >> we're going to take a quick break. we will be back with more. >> go ahead, ali. >> sorry, i misunderstood what was going on. i was told we're going to commercial break and coming back in the next hour with more of our coverage from minneapolis. but i might be wrong, which i often am. if i'm not wrong i'll see you in a couple of minutes. >> yeah, we're coming back. we are coming back. >> all right. we are coming back. >> all right
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