tv Dateline MSNBC May 30, 2020 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
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i'm chris jansing, coming up on midnight on the east coast, 11:00 p.m. in minneapolis, another night of protest raged there and in dozens of cities over the death of 46-year-old george floyd, black man killed after white police officer held his knee on george floyd's neck for nearly nine minutes, nearly three minutes after he had stopped breathing. multiple governors have activated the national guard and curfews have been enacted in several major cities across america, including atlanta, louisville, denver and milwaukee. but at least some of those curfews have been ignored by protesters. minneapolis is bracing for more unrest that could be more violent and destructive than the city has seen so far. in washington, d.c., nbc's garrett haake described scene as riot territory, smashed store
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windows and burned at least one car. new york city police department arrested at least 100 people in protests. police vehicles have been burned in manhattan and brooklyn and mayor held a press conference with a message for protesters saying it's time to go home. initially peaceful protest in miami turned violent with some demonstrators setting fire to police cars and in chicago, stormed trump tower. chicago mayor lori lightfoot forcibly denounced the protesters coming for all-out battle. >> i want to express my disappointment and total disgust at number of others who came to today's protest armed for all-out battle. you don't come to a peaceful protest with a bowling ball or a hammer or a shovel or a baseball bat. you don't come to a peaceful
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protest with bottles of urine to throw at police officers. i applaud the vast majority of the individuals who came here to make true and lasting change peacefully. >> joining me now, msnbc's ali velshi, been on the ground in minneapolis throughout the crisis, it's just after 11:00 central time, give us the lay of the land and what you've seen since we last spoke. >> reporter: things have changed dramatically in downtown minneapolis. we're downtown, intersection of north 1st avenue and north 5th street if anybody knows downtown minneapolis. as you can see, it is empty. there have been policing -- some police over there, police vehicles going around the city with national guard generally speaking with backup of national
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guard. moved to areas people have been convening. crowd as you know, crowd i was with of a few thousand appears to have dispersed and little gatherings are broken up by police. did that effectively earlier by firing tear gas and tracers and rubber bullets into the crowd which also hit us earlier. has had the desired effect of enforcing the curfew in minneapolis. other thing we saw happen because of that, saw national guard escorting firefighters. we've not seen fires tonight we've seen last few nights. fires of the last few nights have not been able to be put out because firefighters not able to go in without the protection of the national guard. there are many many many many more national guard. all police leave and paid time off for police, emt and firefighters has been canceled in minneapolis. everybody is on the job and they
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have a handle on the fires. ambulance was escorted by national guard. fire trucks, several when we started to talk, saw them escorted by national guard. still some fires and protest activity around the city but largely died down. this is city that's been dealing with protests tuesday night, thursday night, friday night and tonight. but tonight was peaceful, there wasn't looting, smashing of anything going on. and police have taken the most aggressive role they've taken all week. government, governor, mayors of st. paul and minneapolis and others have said they're bringing in reinforcements to keep the streets of minneapolis quiet tonight and it looks, chris, that they have achieved that. >> all right. one good thing, peace on the streets. but going to be a lot of after action questions asked tomorrow for sure. >> reporter: yeah. >> we're glad you and your crew
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are okay and grateful for you being out there to report for us, ali. thank you. also want to go to new york city now, been a lot of activity there as well. waiting to get richard lui up, do we have the picture? that's obviously a lot of heavy police presence there. do we have richard lui yet? >> reporter: chris, can you hear me? chris, can you hear me? >> yeah. what's going on. >> reporter: person on the right-hand side that's been injured. pull to the right here. really quiet, got small in number, then all of a sudden bottles were thrown. projectiles were thrown and police again moved towards the crowd. at least three or four individuals that fell to the saw one at the moment. what was very quiet.
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came to us ten minutes ago, can hear a pin drop. but as you know with these protests, as they disperse them, 15 or 20 minutes later, they come back. we have one individual here who is injured we just walked past, and police now are trying to get everybody away from the same intersection that we were in before, that you -- when we were on air together when the crowd ran towards us. very same location at the moment. another flashpoint. on evening like this, saturday night, where it's warm, and there is no curfew as you know, up like some of the other cities we've been following this evening, we've seen the crowds ebb and flow. 15 minutes ago, quiet. sunset, quiet. but now here in brooklyn as we are on the outskirts of
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downtown, not too far from barclay center, can see roughly about 100 officers confronting a group that's not that large, a group though that has confronted the police occasionally, bottle of water or small projectile, then the police decide to pursue that individual. what has been pretty consistent here, chris, as groups are gathering, in the streets, if they so decide, ask them to step out of the streets, and then the groups are allowed to stay on the sidewalk. what has been consistent, not unique to brooklyn certainly, chris, the protesters are quite -- some of them, not all of them, understand the diversity of all of these groups in terms of different intensities, that the ones in front clearly screaming out obscenities, challenges, for
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confrontation, that certainly does not help the situation, but at this moment, we've seen at least one injured, which you saw earlier on camera, that we walked past. now -- i guess it's front line where the police are with what is now a very small group, as you can tell, 50 or 60 maybe protesters. another quiet moment potentially, chris, maybe not. >> you mentioned richard some of the exchanges that have been going on. can you hear me okay? >> reporter: i can. can you hear me? >> see if we can hear any of this. >> fuck the police! >> reporter: pan out wide. >> just general yelling between -- >> you have to give clear orders or we'll sue the fuck out of
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you. every day. you are not giving clear orders. clear order. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> no justice? >> no peace. >> what's his name? >> george floyd. >> what's his name? >> george floyd. >> really loud, what was his name? >> george floyd. george floyd. george floyd. >> everybody move. let's go. everybody move. move, move, move.
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got to step. >> it seems, richard lui, for all the yelling that the police were not provoked and people are moving now. >> reporter: that's right, chris. up to this point when we've seen that sort of confrontation, it would flash. we're a little bit over midnight right now, intensity has accelerated as you see, captain is here leading in front, trying to get all the protesters to take a step back. his officers behindbut it looks protesters -- majority of them are taking steps back, listening to law enforcement. we're following them to see what might happen, but certainly is stark contrast to what you saw nine minutes ago, and that was
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the change. if you came moments before the top of the hour, quiet. everybody was dispersed. but after it dispersed, everybody returned. here we are in front of iconic -- if you're a brooklynite, you know junior's, one of the favorite eateries down the block, just happens to be a location, perhaps for today's history, that these brooklynites remember. a quite moment for a second at least, chris. >> let's hope it stays that way. you take care, you and your crew, richard lui, we'll get back to you as situation warrants. as you pointed out, there's no curfew in new york city. not the case in los angeles where the national guard is deploying as looting, vandalism and violence is worsening. bring in paul kucurets, what ar
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you hearing about the situation in your city tonight? >> most of the violence and vandalism has taken place in my district, my neighborhood of fairfax. we're all dwaevastated about th senseless and vicious death of george floyd bah the message has been eclipsed by the violence and vandalism that we're seeing. just about every building is graffitied, many broken into, some set on fire. police cars and other vehicles have been set on fire. we're trying to get this under control. i've called for and we've a curfew, asked for it to be in this neighborhood, but now it's city-wide, which is great. and we have now requested
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support from the national guard. and our neighboring sheriffs department, and we're doing everything we can to protect our residents. >> do you have a sense, councilman, what specifically, if there is something specific or who may have sparked this level of violence? >> it's not really clear. it's probably a combination of people's anger towards what happened and the fact that people are angry anyway because they've been cooped up due to coronavirus. we really just began opening the city, and this weekend was supposed to be when our retail stores and restaurants would be open for the first time this weekend. so i think there's a lot of anger in the air in general. and i don't know how many people were participating in this looking for violence. i think most of the people
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intended to protest peacefully, and i know our police officers responded to that in that way. and have done a very good job of balancing the rights of peaceful protesters and at the same time making sure we protect against those intent upon committing crimes. so it's been difficult, but we have noblizmobilized our entire, thousands of officers in fairfax area, doing whatever we can to get a handle on this. fortunately hasn't been a lot of physical damage to people. haven't been deaths, haven't been a lot of protesters injured. i've seen several laptd officer injured and taken away by ambulance which is quite unfortunate but nobody i believe has their lives threatened from what's happened today. i think that's part of the
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effectiveness of a better lapd than we had when we had the terrible things that happened to rodney king which set the city on fire and on edge 28 years ago. we want to make sure that doesn't happen to this city again, and we don't take decades to recover from it. >> you mentioned some of the activity going on. just checking some of the reporting in "the l.a. times," they report that nordstrom and apple store at the grove, big, well-known shopping area there, were vandalized and looted. somebody took a hammer to front of the whole foods there, while some people were cheering, others were screaming don't do that, please. so obviously you have some people inciting problems, other people there peacefully don't want to see what is happening happen. do you feel confident now that
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you're in a situation in los angeles where you have on the ground what you need to control the situation? >> it's not completely clear, especially if it spreads to other areas. we're controlling it as well as we possibly can. we have a lot of iconic shopping areas within a short distance of each other, all in my neighborhood, the grove, the beverly center, the beverly connection, farmer's market, cbs studios, kantor's deli, lot of notable sites, all in danger. we're trying to keep those all protected, keep our residents protected, all the small business store fronts protected but that's a lot of activity. while i think we're handling it as well as we can, wouldn't say we're out of the woods. i think it's important we called
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curfew and we're enforcing it. but as the protest moves to other areas, i think we need to be as well prepared and even more active in making sure it doesn't spread the way it has today. >> we're seeing a large fire burning in los angeles, where it is 9:17 p.m. one of the many -- there are obviously fire crews on the scene. i don't see that in that area there are any signs of protesters but we don't have a large, wide shot of that area. one of the things that mayor garcetti said day, councilman, when you watch these pictures of the protests, you're only occasionally struck by the fact we're still in middle of a pandemic and people are wearing masks but plenty are not, and people who have masks but are pulling them down. one of the things that the mayor
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said he was worried about, obvious lack of social distancing. this is a city who like much of california and the country has worked hard to come back and be able to reopen in the middle of a pandemic. how worried are you about what we might see two weeks after these protests with potentially a spike in cases? >> well, i'm very worried and already frustrated. i led the effort to require masks anytime people leave the home, and took a while longer perhaps than it should have but we did put out that order. i have seen a lot of noncompliance with that. i fear it's because as we decide to open up, that people don't realize that putting on masks and social distancing actually will make that more possible and make spread less likely. rather they're looking at it, saying well, everything's okay if with can open retail and
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restaurants, guess we don't need to do this anymore. but i'm very fearful that large gatherings like this, everybody crowded in one place, mostly not wearing masks, could encourage the spread. not all of our officers have masks either. i think it's not a recipe for good health. >> councilman, it's a beautiful city and incredibly beautiful neighborhood you live in in fairfax, we wish you the best. we'll keep our eye on what's developing in los angeles. thank you very much, council us tonight. now to atlanta, blayne alexander is standing by. state of emergency was expanded earlier today. what is going on in the streets of atlanta tonight? >> reporter: state of emergency here, chris. governor authorizing as many as
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1,500 national guard troops to come out and keep the peace because of what we saw as bunch of chaos last night. it's a very different mood tonight than last night. look over here, big part of the reason why, barriers were put in place because this area behind me, see the plywood and broken out windows. one of the first places to get hit by protesters. standing in downtown atlanta, by the iconic cnn center. that's where the red cnn sign is and where it was defaced. see a big difference tonight for two reasons, one, resources. more national guard officials are here. you can see some of the vehicles and atlanta police officers still going through and working to clear the streets. other thing is that stricter rules were put into place tonight. we have a 9:00 p.m. curfew in effect for atlanta and we no
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really about ten minutes or so before 9:00, saw the armored vehicles announcing, saying you've got ten minutes, you're going to be arrested if you don't disperse. after that we saw tear gas go into the cloud, and clash between protesters and police. but it was so much more contained than this time last night. do need to say right now one atlanta police officer is in the hospital being treated because of a very -- almost a skirmish that we saw earlier tonight. police had mostly cleared the streets but there was a rider on atv who ran into an officer at high rate of speed. told that officer sustained significant injuries and he's in stable condition tonight, chris. >> blayne alexander in atlanta for us. also showing you the picture of the fire raging in los angeles. we have seen in cities across america those flashing lights of
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police vehicles, fire vehicles, as fiery clashes between police and protesters spread across the country, intensifying the standoff over the death of george floyd. we have our correspondents throughout the country will be on this evening. we'll be back with more on msnbc. can my side be firm? and my side super soft? yes, with the sleep number 360 smart bed, on sale now, you can both adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting.
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welcome back, all across america tonight we're seeing protesters on the streets, people who are out often past curfew, often in confrontations with police but who are standing their ground to send a message. one of them, deray mckesson, organizer for black lives matter and host of "the pod save people," i was looking at your twitter feed, picture from
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brooklyn simply titled barclays is electric. tell me your experience on the streets of new york tonight. >> there were a lot of people out, lot of frustration about how the police have interacted in communities here and across the country, but i'll tell you, it was nothing like what i'm seeing in cities across the country. l.a., d.c., chicago, atlanta, you know, i am troubled to think about these curfews being put in place with hour's notice. how do you lock down a city like l.a. in an hour's notice? how do you move a city like chicago when people don't have enough time to travel? i must say, it feels like a setup, trying to get people to do things we know are going to get them in trouble. i'm worried about that, still in conversations with activists in those cities to plan how we undo that. >> feels like a setup by who? one of the things we heard from
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officials in minneapolis and experts here, in a different form from officials at the white house, but all of them saying that most people want to be peaceful, most people are sending a very directed message. but there are a small number of people who represent extremist groups, who very specifically want to cause trouble. is that who you're saying want to set you up or what do you mean specifically? >> no, i mean this is actually poor leadership by the city officials. there's no way you can have a city as big as l.a. with an hour's notice tell people there's a curfew, just can't do that. no way you can have a city the size of chicago suddenly say that people have a few hours to go home in the whole city. that's not good leadership. remember in all of these cities, the police -- alone, 400 to 800,
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which database you look at. that's a lot of people. lot of pain in the street. until the police change their behavior, i don't know what to -- [ inaudible ]. >> i think we've lost communication there, let's see if we can have technical people work on that, get it back. we want to continue our conversation with black lives matter. let's go to marq claxton, i want you to respond if you will as former nypd detective to what you're hearing, criticism saying most of these protesters were peaceful, now all these rules are being put in place. people seeing police coming out in large numbers, much larger than we've seen previously, and feels like it's a setup for things to go wrong. do you understand that argument? >> i understand the sentiment behind the argument, i don't
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necessarily agree with every point of that argument. i think if we're looking at tonight, seems as if the various locations that there has been less disturbance and less violence, but the question is whether or not that's attributable to the police actions or is it based on the protesters deciding to take another course of action. i don't think there's any question at this point there is some infiltration into legitimate organizations by extremist groups, who are just committed to chaos and anarchy, we have actual anarchists involved in organizations themselves, inciting violence throughout the country. i think what we have to do, i agree with deray, city officials and police have to be cognizant
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and respectful of the right to protest in all its shapes and forms and we can't be heavy handed, can't afford to do that. and just as we talk about infiltration of extremist groups and antagonists in the protest community, maybe, perhaps, we ought to also examine, to give balance, some of the same infiltration that's occurred historically in law enforcement. and there's been studies in regards to that. infiltration of extremist groups in law enforcement, white supremacist groups, et cetera. >> back to you, idea we want to be cognizant and respectful, yet we're seeing destruction and confrontations with police tonight. what would be your message to your fellow protesters, to fellow members of black lives matter -- i should say, just did a quick search of black lives
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matter, you're group is being represented in cities all across america, in oahu there's a group of black lives matters protesters coming out to speak about the issues you have been talking about for very long time, brought back into the fore by this latest death. what would you say to fellow protesters tonight to get their message across and not have it diluted? >> you know, here's the thing. when i think about the protesters, people are in the street because of the violence of the police. if we want people to be able to go home, they have to be able to feel safe in their neighborhoods. those things aren't happening now. 2019 first year more black people were scared of being killed by police officers than community violence. when i say a setup, seeing poor planning by city officials. can't tell me it makes sense to lock down a city like l.a. with
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one hour's notice. poor planning. can't tell me makes sense to send militarized police into area there's protesting and when they tear gas people they blame the protesters. we're seeing that across the country. don't want another mayor to talk about what people need to do when they're not providing the leadership and modelling for people in those communities. i'm tired of hearing people talk about what protesters are doing and not what the police are doing and failed leadership in so many cities we saw tonight with impromptu curfews. you can't convince me that made sense. >> we did hear from ali velshi that everything in minneapolis was peaceful. no indication or warning, police just moved in, started to disperse tear gas. he made it very clear that people were trying to be cooperative, but can't be
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cooperative if you're not given warning or instruction. one of the things we heard, and i don't know want to be specific about this, it was very noisy. but sounded to me like in new york city today when police were trying to move people back, there was a protester who was saying we need to know what you want us to do. so there's obviously a chaotic situation in some cases, a lack of ability to try to keep this from escalating. but they seem to manage to do that largely in some cities and not in other cities. moving forward, what do you think the role of the protesters will be after tonight? >> yeah, i think what you'll see is you'll see people continue to make demands of the police. you think about things like choke holds, only 28 cities of the 100 largest cities in
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america ban choke holds. that's wild, right? in minneapolis, where we saw the last killing of george floyd, in minneapolis choke holds are not banned. 50%, half of the police officers fired get retired there. you're going to see protesters continue to demand structural change. we know the only way to prevent things from happening in the future is if something changes at root level. i think that's what you'll see from protesters. >> i guess the question really becomes, it's key question we've asked over and over and over again whenever we've seen killing by police officers of a black man, how do you effectuate that change, there's an outcry, protests, we hear things, don't mean in disparaging way but factual way, we have to get these changes made. i don't think anyone who is human, with feeling bone in
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their body, can look at any of the videos put out about what happened to george floyd, knee in his neck, eight minutes plus, almost three minutes after he stopped breathing and not something is profoundly wrong here, but what tangible steps need to be taken to effectuate that change? >> that's the thing, we know it needs to happen. we don't have the political leadership that's courageous enough to often do it. banning choke holds and strangleholds, you've seen people choke to death, people strangled to death, you've seen it, right? still only 28 of the 100 cities ban it. that's failure of leadership. think of restricting shooting in moving vehicles, that's another that matters. having duty to intervene when officers see their partners doing things that are wrong.
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requiring de-escalation, having officers report every time they point or threaten to point gun at somebody. eight things we track around use of force and when all three are in place, there's reduction in killings from police around the country. we know the answers but we don't have the conviction from political leaders. >> we have to go but want to ask last question. you're not new to this, this is not first killing of black man you've seen. does this feel different to you? do you feel there's opening, for lack of better term, for change? do you feel like the message is getting across more clearly than it may have in the past? or are you waiting just to see? are you waiting to actually -- for the trial, what happens, will those other three officers will there be changes in laws,
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in training, what are you looking for that will tell you this might be different? >> yeah, when i think about what is different about this moment, remember the police have killed more people since the protests in 2014, not less. people think because they didn't hear it on the news, something got better. but police killed more people. slight statistical decrease in cities but offset by increase in rural and suburban communities. i'm hopeful there will be accountability with regard to this specific case. but if policies and rules don't change in cities, outcomes will not change. that requires mayors and police chiefs and governors to step up. almost all the cities in the country have serious problems with rules. i've gotten calls from people in congress today, a host of people looking for solutions and does
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look like we might finally have the courage. >> wait a minute, that's first thing i've heard that's really tangible here tonight. you've actually gotten calls from members of congress asking you what exactly -- what are they if anything promising to do? >> i think people are promising to look into things. there's a bill we're trying to get killed, hr-1154, bill to expand right for police unions to unionize across the country. it's a bad bill, working hard to get every cosponsor to not cosponsor it. but doj can condition funding and congress fund that. pushing the biden campaign to release a program around police violence. people are interested in solutions, question is are they courageous enough to implement them? that's where we'll see.
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people are not going to leave the street anytime soon. i hope we have political leaders ready to meet the moment head-on. >> deray mckesson on this late night, we thank you so much, appreciate your time and sharing your thoughts and experiences with us. hope to see you again sometime soon with a report about what actually is happening, thank you. what you're seeing on your screen are the streets of minneapolis, minnesota, very different scene, much heavier law enforcement presence, often deploying tear gas, moving the crowds out. there you see the police vehicles but crowds have dispersed. as protests continue across the united states after the death of george floyd. we'll take a quick break and be back with more, right after this.
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brooklyn, large crowds gathered an the barclay center, you have now moved ten minutes away. what's been happening? >> reporter: great characterization, that's what happened today, splinter groups leave and join the main group. right now a group probably about quarter the size of what it was before. and what we've seen from some in the group is that -- [ inaudible ]. >> toward the police over here. and police, standing next, they suggested we move away because some of the crowd were throwing things at them and we could get hurt. rocks thrown and bottles of water. this group is the latest with a surge of energy. >> we're going to let you move
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away from the crowd. we'll let you move away from the crowd, and we will, if there is actual news we'll get back to you. want to make sure you and your crew are in a safe situation. let me go to the phone, cory johnson is waiting to talk to us, speaker of the new york city council. thanks for joining us, how would you assess the situation in your city tonight? >> it's a very tough night in new york city tonight. i think what you're seeing is manifestation of a tremendous amount of pain. we know this pain was not manifested overnight. you saw the murder in broad daylight of george floyd in minneapolis a few days ago, you've seen the vast majority of people who have died from covid-19 across this country being black and brown americans and black and brown new yorkers, a woman in central park less
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than a week ago tried to call the cops on peaceful african-american man who was bird watching, trying to weaponize his race against him. there is structural racism in america, in new york city, and you're seeing this anger and pain come out tonight. no one is condoning violence in new york city, and the vast majority of people have been peaceful. but i think it's are really important to acknowledge here that in the midst of all the pain it is really important to de-escalate. when you have a situation, last night at barclays center, vast majority of the protesters were peaceful but the nypd were assembled there like it was going to be the invasion of normandy, it does not set up an atmosphere where people feel like it is safe. i think what you're seeing tonight across america and in
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new york city is manifestation of this. let's remember, six years ago coming up in july eric garner was killed on staten island saying i can't breathe many times. george floyd, it happened a few days ago. this did not happen overnight. black men especially in this country and in our city have been victimized for far too long and you're seeing pain, anguish and anger play out across the country. we want people to keep it peaceful, vast majority of people are. but nypd has to do better de-escalating. there was video of them mowing through protesters in brooklyn, pepper spraying young man in the face with his mask on and arms up. this is not the way to calm the situation down here in new york city. >> corey johnson, speaker from
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the new york city council, thank you. wish you all the best luck in our beautiful city which unfortunately tonight is seeing confrontations between police and protesters. bring in barbara, what's gotten lost in minute by minute reporting of the confrontations is what this is all about, a man named george floyd who was taken into custody, he was put on the ground, he had a knee put on his neck for nearly nine minutes. that knee stayed on his neck for nearly three minutes after he had no pulse, and we saw other police officers standing around while this happened, no one trying to stop the officer who is now in custody, and who is facing third degree murder charges, but nobody trying to stop it. even as bystanders were yelling
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you're killing him. as somebody who has seen this before, i just wonder what does justice look like here? that's what's being called for tonight in cities around america, justice. what does justice look like for george floyd and for america, frankly? >> i think in the first instance, george floyd himself, in this case seeing justice means conviction of the officer who killed him and other three officers who were there. some of the things that one would look at is whether the person was causing threat of death to the officers or bystanders, whether he was attempting to run away, and seriousness of his crime. all of those factors go against using deadly force under these circumstances. those other three officers had affirmative duty to stop his death from occurring. we know from the complaint even after he stopped moving for
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almost three minutes continued to place knee on his neck. i think we're likely to see superseding charges in coming days to include the other officers. but bigger question, what does it look like in america. one of the reasons temper is flaring and there's unrest in the country, this is not isolated incident but the straw that's broken the camel's back. we've seen too many of these incidents in america and there are a number of reforms we need. changes in the law that makes it too difficult to convict police officers who commit these kinds of crimes, and changes in the cultures of the police departments so they're peace officers, not officers of violence. >> barbara mcquade, always good to see you. bring in christina grier, associate professor at fordham university and politics editor.
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we've been watching for hours and hours this frustration and anger, i think still some level of shock that the first degree murder charges weren't brought from a lot of the protesters we've spoken to, that three other officers still have not been charged. when you look at what's unfolding all around america tonight, what do you see? >> i think it's shock for some, but not for all. sadly this is just a manifestation of the anguish and pain that so many americans have to experience on daily basis. as your previous guests have said, we can't even be in our homes or go bird watching without having to deal with white supremacy coming from the highest levels of government. so when we -- i'm so tired of hearing about riots, which we know these are uprisings and
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rebellions. for a lot of people this is a manifestation of the pain they've felt for many years witnessing people who look like them and their parents, children and loved ones get murdered by the state with pretty much very little repercussion. so i want to focus less on what is happening as far as some of the people who are in the streets and really remind us to keep thinking about why it is that so many hundreds of thousands of americans have needed to take to the streets in the middle of a pandemic, to risk life and limb with police departments across the country who are armed to the teeth as though they're in flallujah and not flatbush avenue, why would they risk their lives? to keep the name of george floyd and alive.
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it's not just about floyd and arbery, it's literally daily assault that so many feel on a systemic, institutionalized, daily basis. >> why now? as you rightfully pointed out, it is something that's been building, that we've seen in the past and things have not changed. what is it now, this particular case or buildup that has brought us to the point where people really do seem to be saying, no more? >> when you look at the president, and how he chooses to use his role as the executive of the united states, we see how he's failed the american people across the nation when it comes to dealing with covid-19, and disproportionate deaths we're
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seeing, well over 100,000, people just going about their business. 40 million americans filed for unemployment, that's just people who have filed, not people who were destitute and worried about not just themselves but entire communities. when we think about the french revolution, the rich stole so much from the poor, only thing the poor have left to eat are the rich. pretty soon america is going to have to realize that growing inequality and inequity we continue to sow generation after generation, chickens are going to come home to roost. i think at this particular moment there is so much pain, we have to keep remembering we're in middle of a pandemic, and stress and strain of all this sickness and death that is happening in communities across the nation is on top of police state sanctioned violence. where we look at how people who are sworn to serve and protect
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us view us as not human, subhuman, animals in some instances. egged on by the highest levels of government. and this is a boiling point. >> yeah. christina grooeer. thanks for your thoughtfulness. that's it for this hour. much more coverage of the ongoing situation across the country. msnbc's coverage will continue right after this.
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good evening. i'm kris jansing, tonight a nation on edge. the death of george floyd continues to spark another night of protests across the cities. mayors from coast to coast are ini enacting curfews. in many cases, though, those demonstrators are ignoring those curfews. the city at the center of it all, of course, is minneapolis. local officials say they're overwhelmed after responding to hundreds of 91 calls about gunfire, property damage and burglary in the last couple of days. as our own ali velshi continues to stress
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