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>> no peace. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> good morning, everyone. and there it is, live, the aftermath. this is minneapolis. not a lot happening. and that's a good thing, after all that's happened there and in this country. 400 years of frustration, outrage and oppression, coming to a boil, as we begin this may 31st, 2020. i'm kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsey reiser. perhaps you stayed up all night watching another night of protests and oppression across the nation. fire was set to nypd vehicles in new york city. and in los angeles, a handful of lapd cars were set ablaze. fires burned in washington, d.c., not far from the white house, as well as at a strip mall from fayetteville, north carolina. >> cities large and small, this was the theme, frustration all over on the streets. that's grand rapids, michigan, where you see vandals smashing
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windows. heavy police presence on the streets. fires burning, as well, in big stores in tampa, florida. there were large numbers at this mall in scottsdale, arizona, for quite a while, while police were arriving. >> people posting videos to twitter. stores like apple getting looted. in san francisco, this best buy store was a target for looters. you see people walking out with large items there. all of this is happening, in spite of an increased police presence, in places like detroit. you see the police mobilization in portland, arkansoregon. meanwhile, in minneapolis, more national guard troops were on the streets. that's where ali velshi got caught in the middle.
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>> watch it, guys. we have gas here. back up, back up, back up. the gentleman next to us got hit. >> they're all okay. the increased police presence on the streets of chicago. chicago was a mess. most of yesterday, protesters clashing with police for several hours. arkansas police used flash grenades to scatter crowds of protesters in little rock. salt lake city, not immune to this. police cracking down and leading to several arrests. >> it's hard to understand the scope of these protests. to give us a sense of all this, steve patterson, live in minneapolis. we knew that state officials said they were going to be activating national guard, the largest presence in the history of the state. were the protests last night as rowdy as the last several nights? >> no. before we start, i just want to make the point that, that is not to say there weren't clashes
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between protesters and police. not to say there weren't a dozen arrests, that items weren't lit on fire, that protesters didn't hurl things at police. there were flash points in the city. if you look at what happened last night, compared to friday night or nights previous, by and large, this was a lot more peaceful night than we've seen in nights previous. and officials, both with the police department and with local officials and state officials, in both cities, twin cities, all are attributing that to the show of force on the ground. you look at numbers and you want to talk about the fact that there were 700 national guardsmen on friday. we saw the key points of the city that were shoulders and fires and damage. last night, there were 4,100 national guards troops on the
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ground, combined with a larger state police presence, and combined with the local police presence, you get the sense that that show of force, combined with the curfew. this is not what we saw on friday night. the streets are empty. i barely see a car on the street. that's been going on for several hours. come back to me this way. you see some of the forti fortificati fortification. this is the 1st precinct in minneapolis. back there, you see the brick wall surrounding the police department. that gives you a good sense of what the show in force defensively was in this city. that's not to say there weren't flash points. at the 5th presipgt, a huge clash between police and protesters. the show of force was able to quell the protesters and they disbur disbursed.
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there was a large presence from community leaders and religious leaders. i set my tweet alert the gove t tweeting. that was every five minutes, obey the curfew. stay off of the streets. we're trying to push people away from problem spots. but the biggest attributation was to the show of force. i want to play some sound for you, just with the emergency response and people in charge of putting that into place, why they said it was so effective. listen to this. >> the curfew that was put in placed appears to have really made a difference. there's no doubt about that. we had incredible levels of complian compliance. and some of the protesters that may have hung around, near the 5th precinct, to see what was going to happen during the course of the night, we believe
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that many of them, who just wanted to check it out, ultimately did go home, because they saw that this was not -- this was going to be a decisive and strong action. meanwhile, quieter, here in minneapolis. but compare that to the rest of the country, as you guys have mentioned. the national guard was activated in 12 cities, including the district -- and the district of columb columbia, i should say. and looking at the hot spots. chicago was a mess. police cars were set on fire. in new york, a major protest in every borough in the city, with clashes throughout the city. and then, los angeles, we saw police cars set on fire. there were clashes in places like beverly hills, rodeo drive, melrose, widespread looting around the city. there was tension across the
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nation. look here in minneapolis, things went well last night. that's not to say. we heard from state and local officials, they are not standing down whatsoever. this is expected to continue day after day, until they feel like they have quelled this to the point which they don't have to show that show of force. but again, officials here say that was effective. and they wish to continue that, as long as they have to, guys. back to you. >> steve, the mayor said yesterday, everybody they arrested in the fourth night of protests, not overnight last night, was from outside the state. the governor said about 80% of the people arrested, was from out of the states. investigations are founding that's not necessarily true. a majority do list minnesota as their address. that has to be verified. when you were talking to people, did you get a sense they were locals? did you get a sense they were angry that the violence was taking away from their message? what did they say about that?
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>> there is a clear delineation. the public officials, that's verifiable of who was and wasn't from the state. local reporting disputed that efshg came from out of state. looking at the crowd, you can't talk to the people out of state specifically here to cause problems. those people, they cause the issue and they leave. there were reports of people driving around without license plates. but talking to people who wanted to come and talk to us because they thought it was important to get their message out, those people are from the local community. there's both elements. where the line is and what public officials said actually happened is yet to be seen. we don't have the numbers exa exactly of how many arrests there were.
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at least a dozen, maybe into dozens. that has to be clarified with the people here. a lot of people want to know the answer to that question. >> steve, would you mind having your photographer pan over to the fifth precinct. that's an amazing shot for me, to see that modern day fortress, that sums up the battles there. if you can see the brick wall to protect that precinct, zoom in. you get a sense of the situation in minneapolis overnight. to the white house now, where protesters converge for the second day in a row. monica abla is live for us. what's the scene like or expected to be today? >> good morning, kendis and lindsey. all quiet here outside of the white house. what remains is debris, vandalism and graffiti you can see on the buildings nearby as
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you walk in here. the president returned from florida from the space-x launch. he didn't acknowledge the second night of protests that you see. during daylight, it was a mostly peaceful protest. a couple of clashes. for the most part, you saw a group of 1,000 if not more people, coming with signs and chants to express the anger over t the death of george floyd. when night fell, it was a lot more engagement with secret service officers. we're told there were agents that sustained injuries. that's from friday's clashes. we don't have the numbers yet from yesterday. if that's an expectation, we expect there to be secret service who were injured. late into the night, the clashes that are audible from where i am on the white house north lawn. technically overnight, the president could have been hearing this. and he didn't weigh in on the
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second night. he did yesterday, say if anybody were to breach the barriers, get on to the white house campus, they would be met, his words, vicious dogs and ominous weapons. he was praising the secret service yesterday. when he was in florida, we heard the most extensive remarks so far, on the national unrest, following the death of george floyd from the present. he had made mentions and was in touch with the floyd family. this is the most we heard from this topic. there will likely be pressure in the days ahead, given the protest around the country. listen how he assessed this very dangerous and important situation in our nation right now in florida yesterday. >> i stand before you as a friend and ally to every american seeking justice and peace. and i stand before you from
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opposition of maybe to exploit this tragedy to loot, rob, attack and menace. healing, not hatred. justice, not chaos, are the mission at hand. >> the president echoing what we heard from attorney william barr yesterday. they believe a lot of the protests are being led by some of the extremists or antifa-led groups. he said those that are protesting peacefully, he said those people are being dishonored by the others taking advantage of the situation. but the president continued to potentially inflame everything that's going on by saying maybe there were going to be some of his supporters toe come to the white house tonight. that would have set up for more clashes. we didn't see evidence of that.
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it was people that wanted to come out and express their frustration and anger over the death of george floyd. that's something we could see here today. the service has extended the barrier around the white house. >> monica alba at the white house. thank you. now, to atlanta, where protests went well into the night. and demonstrators clashed with police. >> an emergency curfew expired moments ago in atlanta. it did little to quell the back and forth. >> joining us now, is rashad richie, a talk show host and editor at large. he offered to pay the bond for anyone arrested in atlanta. thank you for being there. how many people took up your offer from friday? >> 22 individuals took that up.
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and with the distinction was, as long as it was not active, overt violence or destruction, i would take care of your band. we had 42 people on the court docket for 9:00 a.m. yesterday, who were arrested for tre trespassing, obstruction of justice, and disorderly conduct. then, there was a felony, on the docket that i did not pay bonds for. and those were the jindividuals that were caught for looting property directly. >> what's going through your head as you tell us this. you say, this is not the civil rights movement, the equity movement, being led by frustrated youth, believing that many in the old guard let them down. you also say the protests in large majority are peaceful. but there's a few hot heads that would rather that be the focus instead of the killing of george floyd. what are you making of what we see across the country?
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>> the vast majority of protesters are peaceful. they are demonstrating this is civil unrest across the country. let's look at the art of protest across america. the tea party. the boston tea party was a protest. and those individuals who protested their governmental oppression, are praised by our history books. but individuals today, many of them are being called villains, because they dare to stand up and to speak out. remember, dr. king said, a riot is the voice of the unheard. these things do not come out of thin air. i do not condone or advise, any riotous behavior, we cannot insist this comes up without provocati provocation. there is provocation for these things. and the narrative should stay the same. that's the death of another black man who should be living
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today. >> when rosa sat down, people said this is not the right sort of protest. we can go on and on. i've had these conversations with my in-laws over the last couple of days. the rapper and social activist killer mike gave a powerful speech during friday's protests. take a listen. >> we don't want to see one officer charged. we want to see four officers prosecuted and sentenced. we don't want to see targets burning. we want to see the system that sets up for systemic racism burnt to the ground. if you sit in your homes, instead of burning to the ground, you will have time to plot, plan, strategize and organize and mobilize in an effectively. two of the most effective ways is taking your butt to the computer and fill out your census so people know where you are. the next is that you exercise
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your bully power, and going to the polls and beating up the politicians you don't like. >> john lewis, among those, echoing your sentiments, saying we're angry with you. but organize your effort. >> yeah. killer mike and other voices are correct in their stance. the same energy that she had during that press conference, we want to see the energy from leaders as it relates to homelessness in the city of atlanta. as it relates to gentrification. as it relates to working employment. we want to see the same energy for what's happening right now and what led up to it. >> president trump says he has been in touch with george floyd's family. but george floyd's brother spoke
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to allen on msnbc. >> it was so fast, he wasn't given an opportunity to speak. it was hard. he kept pushing me off. i don't want to hear what you're talking about. and i just told them, i want justice. i said i can't believe they committed a modern-day lynching in broad daylight. i can't stand for that. and it hurt me. i just don't understand, man. why we have to go through this? why we have to have all this pain? i love my brother. i'm never going to see him again. >> we know he's telling the truth. president trump is unable to connect with individuals on an emotional level. he doesn't lead from the front. he doesn't lead from behind. he doesn't lead at all. this is why we need a true national leader in this country.
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i feel horrible for the family of george floyd because i believe that call probably made things emotionally worse for them. once again, a token gesture by president trump, making that phone call and no leadership whatsoever beyond that. >> we have to remember, this is a president who continues to push for the death penalty for the central park honored five, in fact. >> that's right. >> thank you. appreciate your time. it's not at the front of everyone's minds right now, but there is still something that's lingering right there. >> we're dogging about coronavirus. how much these protests are concerning doctors, as the nation tries to get the virus under control.
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open them. keep it up. breathe. >> that could have been any city. this particular case, this was kansas city, missouri. just some scenes overnight. wonder what this must look like from the outside of the world, to people looking in. police using pepper spray to disburse a crowd. more than 50 people were arrested. >> tensions also high in new york city. here's what mayor bill de blasio has to say about the clashes with police. >> we've seen some videos where protesters were handled very violently and roughly. that's not neighborhood policing. we will not accept that kind of behavior, from any police officer. but i'll tell you, at the same time, we saw acts of violence from protesters that have nothing to do with the tradition of peaceful protest. any protester that takes away
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humanity from a police officer, and devalue them because they are a public servant, is no better than the racists who devalue people of color, particularly black men in america. >> joining us now, is black lives matter organizer and mayoral candidate, madre mckesson. >> de blasio has been a complete failure when we think about everything of the police. in 2015, he lifted the bans on choke holds, reremoved the caveat and he removed the requirement of minimum force had to be used when arrests were being made. that is to say that people who challenge the police is no matter than racists, that's unfathomab unfathomable.
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one-third of all people killed by a stranger is killed by a police department. the new york city police department settled on $200 million because of lawsuits against the nypd. de blasio has not been a leader. >> this morning, you tweeted, this feels so heavy. the police have continued to cause so much pain. as a person on the ground at ferguson, as i was, what goes through your mind as you see all of this unrest? >> yeah. you think about it, the police have killed more people since the protests, not less. people thought it got better because they didn't see it in the news, but it actually got worse. the only good news is there was a decrease in cities but it's been offset by communities. and in 2020, the police killed as many people in march and april of 2020, as they did in march and april of 2019. covid, quarantine, the lockdown,
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had no impact at the rate or number that police killed people. the pain is still palpable. and it's wild to see city leaders not realize that the pain is still here. >> i want to ask a two-fold question about the responsibility of protesters and the responsibility of police. you have two arguments here. some are saying the violence is distracting from the importance of this moment. and you have the police either, not prepared for the crowds or, "b" militaryizing these cities. where do you stand in terms of both of these arguments? >> you and i have seen countless videos in the past 48 hours of reporters being targeted, people being dragged, shot with rubber bullets at 3:00 in the afternoon. we've actually seen the violence of the police in primetime. i don't have to convince you anymore because you've seen it. i've seen a lot of crowds come
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out. and the police, if they are so well well-trained and professional, they should be able to manage us. i've seen them provoke crowds and chase people and shoot people, and that can't be acceptable. i am sensitive to what it means that we know -- and they tried to do in 2014 -- that the russians are trying to exploit a race issue here. and there are some white supremacists. >> i want people to pay attention to the video on the screen. this is one of the incidents being looked at. this is in the new york city area. you see that first vehicle, and the protesters start throwing bottles at it. at some point, another cap car or van, pulls up next to it and rams through the crowd. i don't know if we'll get to that part of the video, but you get a sense. this is one of the many scenes that people are look at right now.
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there are many incidents that appear to be additional police brutality. there were a lot of incidents where there was no restraint. >> you know, why did you put one police car in the middle of a crowd of protesters? that doesn't seem smart to me. you're the largest police department in the country, the biggest city of the country, what were you thinking? it does seem that the police have been encouraging some of this. and de blasio, it is wild to watch him watch state assembly members get teargassed and pepper sprayed and man handled from the police. and he's, like, well, wish you would have done different thi things. i was out in new york city, they were provoking people. we didn't start this, right? we are not the people who caused the violence that caused the
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protests. >> i want to read you something. kareem abdul-jabbar wrote an op- op-ed. he said, i don't want to see stores looted or buildings burned, but african-americans have been in a building burning for many years. you see people take out the big items from best buy and other stores. what is your reaction? >> my reaction is mike brown will never be here. george floyd. people will not return. products will. the buildings will be back. the products will be back. all this was avoidable. if the police hadn't killed people, we wouldn't be here. and the police have killed more and more people each year since 2014. even though there's a national conversation, even though there's a focus on it, the police have continued to cause
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we're back with breaking news overnight. civil unriest, and a police presence on downtown portland, oregon, to the banks of the pa tome ic in washington, d.c. >> law enforcement tried to send a strong message to deter violence. this is chicago mayor lori lightfoot early this morning. >> you don't come to a peaceful protest with a bowling ball, or a hammer, or a shovel, or a baseball bat. you don't come to a peaceful protest with bottles of urine to throw at police officers. i applaud the vast majority of
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individuals who came to make true and lasting change peacefully. but for the rest of you, i'm here to call you out, for your recklessness and for your obscene disrespect to the righteous cause that you are trying to hijack. >> despite the calling out, the warnings and the curfews, fires continued in dozens of cities. >> people across the globe is standing in solidarity with protesters in the united states, holding their own rallies in london, paris, toronto, and berlin. take a look. ♪ >> hundreds of demonstrators gathered in front of the u.s. embassy in berlin to protest the death of george floyd. carl was there.
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this is now global. >> it's now global. the anger, the frustration has reached all of the way to germany. this is a mural that just popped up in the last 48 hours. this is in a park in berlin, where the berlin wall once stood. you see the face of george floyd and i can't breathe. and one of the hash tags is say his name. that's what the protesters were doing in front of the u.s. embassy. some 2,000 or more estimated people gathering there. this was a peaceful demonstration. you can feel the anger and the frustration, the way you feel in so many cities across the united states. you heard many of the same slogans, people chanting black live s matter. one of the bigger messages that i heard at the rally yesterday, is that germans -- especially
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white germans, they feel like they can no longer remain silent, if they want to see change. they need to be part of the conversation, not only to solve the many problems that you see in germany, with racism and policing but also in the united states. this is a country that is very much involved in what is going on. they know the names of many of these black americans that have died in the hands of police custody of george floyd, of ahm ahmad arbery. you see headlines, saying that the united states is burning. germans are paying attention to what is going t murm that's just popped up in the last 48 hours the. >> that's amazing. i saw carl in nearby brussels in belgium, a subw waway car that
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huge, i can't breathe, painted in graffiti on it. the whole world is watching. americans have a little to be p embarrassed. carl, thank you. we're in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic. here's the latest at this hour. starting tomorrow, miami-dade county, beaches, pools, hotels, they will all begin to reopen. sunbathing and swim willing be permitted. but people will have to socially distance. and all beachgoers have to have face coverings, as well. >> the president postponed the group of seven summit, until september. coming after of the german chancellor, angela merkel, who said she would skip an in-person meeting. >> in atlanta, a message for protesters -- if you are out protesting, you probably need a coronavirus test. the mayor saying there is still a pandemic in america that's killing black and brown people
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at higher numbers. >> as more states lift restrictions, there's new hot spots emerging across the country. a new report indicates 22 states have seen a surge in daily cases. they include west virginia and alabama, which rank the highest. >> stay with msnbc, for tonight's special, american crisis, poverty and the pandemic. joy reid talks to american workers and their struggles during the outbreak. >> america has a little bit of reason to celebrate this morning, during these tough times. just a little. >> yesterday's space-x launch charts a new course for space travel. not just today, or this month, but always.
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this morning, nasa astronauts will arrive at the international space station and a new era of space flight. >> two americans lifting off from american soil for the first time in nine years. it was the first time a private company worked with nasa on the launch. nbc oes t nbc's tom costello has more. >> five, four, three, two, one. ignition, liftoff. >> reporter: with a thunderous rocket roar, america opened a new chapter in space history.
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the first launch in nine years and the first private company ever to launch nasa astronauts into space. >> it's supersonic. >> reporter: doug hurley and bab benkin, for a sunday morning rendezvous with the space station. they donned the new space suits before waving good-bye a second time to their families. with millions tuning in around the world, hundreds of thousands lined the florida coast to watch the launch in person. some choosing to socially distance, but many, if not most, caught up in the moment. >> we're still america and strong. we can overcome the challenges. >> hurley and benkin, arriving at launch pat 39a, in a tesla. the weather clearing as the president and the vice president, return for the second attempt. >> falcon separation confirmed. >> reporter: the liftoff and
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rocket exactly as plan. the booster rock returned to a bull's-eye landing on a barge in the ocean. at a time of political polarization and pandemic isolation, a moment for the entire nation to cheer as one. from space, bob benkin weighed in. >> appreciate all of the horde work. and thanks for the great ride to space. >> so grateful for the people that worked together, public and private. when you see a sight like that, it's incredible. >> that was nbc's tom costello reporting. >> they're expected to arrive around 11:00 eastern time this morning. we will be watching. >> they woke up from the eight-hour sleep shift. coming up, excited delirium. two words that appear in the paperwork against former police officer. >> what does that term mean?
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attorney general bt.j attor addressing the death of george floyd. >> with the rioting occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful protests are being hijacked by violent radical elements. groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to tur sue their own separate and violent agenda. in many places it appears the violence is planned, organized and driven by antarctic and left extremist groups, far left extremist groups. >> joining us, former from prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. good morning. thanks for joining us. the attorney general is blames
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far left extremist groups, minnesota state governor blaming far right. what's your reaction to what the attorney general said? >> yeah. i am disappointed to hear attorney general barr go immediately to attacking what he calls left wing extremist groups when, you know, people with their feet on the ground in minneapolis, in minnesota, like the governor of minnesota, till walz, actually said, and i quote, we have seen things like white supremacist organizers who have posted things on platforms about coming to minnesota to protest, and yet bill barr goes right to an attack on what he calls left wing groups. i don't think anybody can accuse bill barr of being fair and even-handed in the way he's assessing and informing the american people what's going on in minnesota or elsewhere with these protests. >> but kind of gives him an easy
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out. doesn't it? as ow posed to just being black folks who are sick and fired of being sick and tired. they blame that these groups that are infiltrating the protesters? >> it does, kendis. givings him an easy out. remember, this is the same bill barr december 19, 2019 said at a gathering of the department of justice in the storied great hall, he said that the people of certain communities aren't showing police the proper respect and appreciation, therefore, they may find themselves losing the protection of the police. that was an outrageous statement, in my 30 years as a prosecutor i have never once had a law enforcement officer or agent tell me, you know, if the people don't show me the proper respect, i will not protect and defend. so i'm sorry. i don't see bill barr as an honest even-handed reporter of the state of criminal justice in
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this country. >> yesterday you tweeted in the george floyd case, keep an eye out for the term excited delirium and the arrest paperwork saying you believed it would play a role. we saw in the criminal complaint, i'm worried about excited delirium or whatever. what did you mean by that tweet? >> exactly. so i became sort of by default the excited delirium expert when i was a homicide prosecutor at the d.c. u.s. attorney's office about a decade ago. an excited delirium case where a young man threw a brick through a plate glass window of a night club. the em foe ployees held that yo man, waited for police to arrive. didn't beat him or assault him simply restrained him. he resisted and what excited
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delirium means in the forensic pathology community, the community of medical examiners who perform autopsies to find cause of death, somebody struggling against restraint can cut off and short-circuit the electrical impulses that keep our heart beating regularly and it can produce almost instantaneous death as a result of that electric impulse being short-circuited. when i saw that term in the paperwork here, arrest paperwork of derek chauvin, one of the four officers who murdered george floyd, i was concerned. i don't want to see those officers make -- i believe -- a false claim that excited delirium had anything to do, because we saw these four officers applying unlawful force to a man who had his hands handcuffed behind his back. he was defenseless. four officers then snuffed the
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life out of him. that has nothing to do with excited delirium and i think -- >> one of those key words that is used early on and often when it comes to prosecution or the defense in these cases. we leave it there. glenn, thank you for your analysis. msnbc's ali velshi was in the middle of the clashes of minneapolis last night and he's back on the ground this morning. he'll talk live with minnesota attorney general coming up at 8:00 a.m. eastern. we thank you for watching. really tough morning here in america. i'm kendis gibbsen. >> and i'm lindsay riser, back next weekend at 6:00 a.m. eastern. more coverage top of the hour, talking with the former head of the naacp. fine, no one leaves the table until your finished. fine, we'll sleep here. ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.
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