again? is that what -- >> [ bleep ]. >> guys, i got hit. hold on. >> and battles the police over nothing. >> what do you think when you see what's happening here? >> anger. it's anger. people got anger. >> i spoke to george's family and expressed sorrow of our entire nation. >> i didn't give me the opportunity to speak. it was hard. he just kept, like, pushing me out. >> maga is make america great again. by the way, they love african-american people. they love black people. maga loves the black people. >> the memory of george floyd is being dishonored by rioters, looters and anarchists. >> yeah. he got me. let's go, let's go, let's go! keep rolling, keep rolling, keep rolling. all right.

>> reporter: good morning, i'm ali velshi. a peaceful scene near minneapolis, not like last night where police took a hard line against protesters in dozens of cities across the united states. i am back here, by the way, in south minneapolis where all of this started on a burned out block. a sense of what you're looking at on the screen. these are just eight of the protests around new york last night and chicago, 3,000 people demonstrated burning at least one flag, climbing on to a chicago transit bus and a lightpole hurling bottles overturning police cars. in cleveland, a situation in which downtown storefronts were vandalized and multiple police cars set on fire. 10,000 protesters in l.a. with multiple lapd vehicles at an lapd kiosk set on fire, luxury stores looted and rodeo drive. minneapolis, as you know, a lot of action here last night.

peaceful protesters interrupted by police. a reporter and a photographer hit by a rubber bullet and arrested. other arrests during the course of the day. two members of a reuters tv crew also arrested. new york saw a lot of action. protesters marched from brooklyn to 14th street in lower manhattan, the other way around. crossed the brooklyn bridge. they shut down the brooklyn lanes, and you could see people spraying graffiti, knocking over garbage cans. 15 police vehicles burned. 14 officers injured including a bike officer struck by an suv. protests continued in washington, d.c. where secret service agents were arrested and protests under way outside of the white house. that all continued, but what we do have here in -- in

minneapolis at least is quiet. the police were determined last night to take back control of the streets, and part of that whole story starts here, because this was the focal point of the initial, the rallies and the meetings on tuesday night, on wednesday night. by thursday night, these fires were burning, and we were here showing them all to you all along this way, and when you go a block over there, you can't see it anymore, but it's the the third precinct, the precinct involved in the death of george floyd, where those police officers were based. that was taken over. led to a lot of tension, running battles between police and protesters with tear gas, rubber bullets, flash grenades. the swituation is very differen. police made a point of saying they are taking back the city with the help of the national guard and the state police. i bring in a reporter

he's been on the story from the beginning. brad, good to see you you were with rachel maddow as protesters took the station on thursday night. what do you make of what happened in the last few daysened why today lodays en and why minneapolis looks so different today? >> they credit the extra national guard troops and their presence in disbursing the protesters and making sure they didn't get a chance to take a hold at any place and form large crowds. we've seen a report that, some of my colleagues out last nice who witnessed tactics the national guard were using to keep people spread apart, and basically blocking out of streets and keeping people from traveling to certain parts of the city. governor walz yesterday, actually early this morning, also gave credit to the national

guard presence for keeping things a little quieter than previous nights. >> what do you -- what sense do you have of what effect this has had? thursday night, protests about arresting derek chauvin, the one videotaped with his knee on george's neck, but then the protest began about arresting the other three men and became more broadly as police violence. that's what spread around the country. is this enough? or do things have to happen before protesters decide they're not going to continue to come out every evening? >> ali, yesterday afternoon i was out at a protest staged outside by freeman's office. mike freeman, of course, is kind of a flashpoint for a lot of folks, because in past cases of minneapolis police officers

killing civilians, he's not charged them, and so while some were glad one officer was charged with third-degree murder, they are not going to be satisfied until those other three have been charged. now, there is a concern as you can imagine that as the legal process goes on and the investigation is wrapped up with these other three officers, they may not be charged for murder. there may be some other charges that are lesser that get attached to their cases, and that may set off another set of protests, of people saying that, look, if i was one of these officers, if i was a person who was involved in the death of someone else, i would expect to be charged with murder or taking part in that murder. so the police officers, as you know, there's a different

standard for what police officers, because they have authority to use lethal force when they feel that it's necessary. so we'll just have to see what happens, but i can guess that folks will not be satisfied if those other three officers are not charged with some type of murder. >> thanks for your reporting on this. thanks for joining us again, today. a reporter with minneapolis public radio. i want to just tell you about a protest, i believe, i was going to ask my executive produce perp is this under way right now? go to london, england. there have been protests over the last couple of days but there appears to be a protest under way now with -- maybe 1,000 people out there right now in london. this protest, because it is not just about these police officers, and this man george floyd, in minneapolis, but a larger question of authority, inequity, of socioeconomic inequity, of racism. these protests are spreading

around the world and we'll continue to update you on what happened last night and what continues to happen in cities across the united states. i want to bring in representative hank johnson of georgia. a member of the judiciary committee and chairman of subcommittee on courts, intellectual property and the internet. and secretary of the congressional black caucus, the district, north and east of, north and east of atlanta. congressman good to see you and thank you for being with us today. i want to read something you said about the riots. you said you support, the demonstrations, i should say, because they weren't all riots. you support peaceful protests. heartening to see diversity but provocateurs don't share protesters' goals. peaceful demonstrators should take pictures of law breakers destroying our cities, violence and property damage are not the answer. what do you make of what happened across country last night? protests?

provocateurs? vandals? what do you make from it? >> it was a little bit of everything in there, but i can tell you our young people are very frustrated, and they feel that they have no alternative but to take it to the streets, and they do that during the daytime and they do it at night. and it's a reaction to the reality under which our people are living, and that is, we are under constant threat of police excessive use of force and oftentimes death. when you look at the statistics in this country of police shootings and police killings of civilians, even though we are 13% of the population in this country, we make up probably about half of the people who are killed every year by police, and it's gotten to the point where our young people feel that they

are in a state of war. they actually feel like it's open season on black people in this country, and the statistics bear that out, and it's just, it continues to happen, and anytime you have a killing as brazen as the one involving george floyd where the officers understand and know that they are being captured on video but yet they persist even after a pulse -- it's announced there's no pulse in george floyd, and they still keep -- that officer kept his foot on mr. floyd's neck until he was dead, and he should pay the ultimate price, and, you know, when nothing happened. when this thing looked like he was going to be swept under the rug, just like all other, or many other cases involving

police brutality, just gets swept under the rug, this time young people across the country weren't having it and so they took to the streets, and the result is that we do have some provocateurs among us. there are some people whose motives are not the same. they're not interested in protesting for justice. they're interested in creating conditions for a race war. they're interested in anarchy in our society, and those are things that law-abiding citizens should not tolerate. >> you have worked hard in congress to put forward various pieces of legislation that would deal with this, including the police accountability act, which allowed the department of justice jurisdiction to bring charges, the grand jury formats, cooling off period, elimination act, stop militarizing law

enforcement act. how much of this can be done at a federal level, versus what a lot of places like minneapolis and a lot of other cities say is a municipal problem? it's a municipal policing problem? it's the, in this case, the attorney and the county attorney for the county that said things all week unsatisfactory to people about bringing charges against this police officer? is this a prop or an everywhere problem? >> it's a problem everywhere. killings of black people are taking place across the country in various jurisdictions. over 18,000 local jurisdictions in this country. 50 states. each one of them chooses to deal with the issue of police accountability in a different way, and oftentimes, and most of the times, it's ineffective for holding police accountable for

what they do, and so the police accountability act, the grand jury format and the cooling off period elimination act as well as the stop militarizing law enforcement act, all of those put together would help to level the playing field. it would ensure that when federal dollars go to jurisdictions across the country for grants and that type of thing, that they be conditioned upon there being state laws in accordance with the federal practices or best practices that are established in those four pieces of legislation that i just named off. and so it's clear that in order for there to be accountability, there's going to have to be a federal involvement, and a federal involvement has to do with making sure that states

have laws reflect the values that we put in our federal legislation. >> congressman, thank you for your time this morning. hank johnson of georgia. i want to show you, by the way, this is the corner we were standing on this corner, thursday night. actually. the liquor store burning just to my left. there were barricades here but a lot of protesters here. this i believe was a restaurant. it's been, feels like so many days ago we were here. continuing to smolder. we don't know of burning fires this morning. i don't see smoke in the sky at the moment. this is continuing to smolder. s they this fire set on thursday or friday. i want to bring in a black lives matter activist and brittany, thank you for being with us right now. campaign zero is a campaign to have this never happen again. the frustration of the protesters with whom i've been

speaking for the last couple of nights goes well beyond the charging of derek chauvin and well beyond the request to charge the three remaining officers and goes well beyond george floyd. in fact, so many of these protesters made a point of saying people's names and talked about the names of people who died as a result of police violence or extra judicial killings and the names go on and they go on and they go on. not even recent history, think about the last three week. what has to change, brittany? the frustration of the people, there's no justification for what you see behind me and the destruction of personal property, and there was hol g n hooliganism, no question. how do we convince people this should change and change it so that it actually does change? >> you're absolutely right. a list of names is longer than we can count.

i remember my friend randy gloss made a shirt of names back in 2014 after michael brown and the ferguson uprising. frankly, there is not enough room on a shirt to contain all of the names you not just in the last six years but throughout history lost to systemic race age and s foibled searching their hearts. they need to search their policies. at campaign zero we have a project called the support project and have discovered there are eight simple actions that police departments can take to change their use of force policies specifically to reduce police killings by up to 70%. this doesn't take an act of congress. this doesn't take a president's tweet or executive order. doesn't even take a vote by the city council. all it takes is a willing police chief and mayor to get together

saying they're going to implement these eight changes in their use of force policies and those eight absolutely cannot wait. we continue to see folks give us thoughts and prayers instead of actually search their actions and change the things that are well within their control. so your question, ali, you're right. this is about more than george floyd and more than breonna taylor. this is about so many of the names and the feeling of fear that people walk around with that should not be allowed in this country. the question is, what are we going to do in this moment? if unprecedented times call for unprecedented imagination that is on us. time for white people to help and those color to get involved in this businesses and lives that lives matter more than merchandise. time for elected officials to stop searching their hearts but search their policies. time for police to stop telling

us this is just the way it is and making cuexcuses how slow the rate of change is. donations to black organizations are great, symbolic gestures are fine but nowhere near enough. even calls and emails to local officials about a single case of a good step, but, ali, you and i both know this is not about one case. this is about hundreds of years of america having its foot on the neck of black people. so until the laws change, and until the people who enforce the laws change, and every non-black neighbor becomes actively anti-racist every day, the protests may end but the crisis will not. we have to be more concerned with justice than we are with this. >> brittany picket cunningham. thank you. and talking to a man

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protests across america and the issue of the violence of african-americans at the hands of police or otherwise as we've seen in the case of ahmaud

arbery in georgia, there is another crisis going on in the country and around the world, really, that's coronavirus. a lot of promises made particularly from this administration about a vaccine ap at first by end of year and now promises around the time of the election in november. not likely to happen, although great if it did. we thought we'd have a conversation about the race for a vaccine. where do we stand on this? i bring into the conversation someone i started having a conversation with a few months ago. doctor, you've become familiar with him or read some of his stuff. the doctor is dean of the national school of tropical medicals at baylor college of medicine. he's currently working on a vaccine. this isn't new to you, doctor. you have been thinking about and trying to get funding for and working on a vaccine for coronavirus for a long time. that was unsuccessful in the past. why? >> well, first of all, ali, i

just want to say glad to see you're doing okay. my wife and i were talking about you last night and worried about you. so good to see you this morning. >> thank you, sir. >> you know -- >> thank you. >> we've been working on coronavirus vaccines for the last decade because we recognized that they were going to be huge problems and we had see sars in 2003, mers in 2012 and knew it was a matter of time before we saw another coronavirus and so we added to our list of vaccines for neglected diseases that we were working on at the texas children's hospital for vaccine ban baylor college of medicine. now we have one moving into clinical trials we hope in a few months for covid-19. so what you're seeing is, this is part of a much larger initiative, of course, across the united states with more than a dozen vaccines that will advance to the clinical

development. they all pretty much work by the same way. induce a immune advance of the spike of the coronavirus and then it's a matter of which approach is going to be the best in terms of giving high levels of protective immunity and also that are safe, because we have to make certain that there is no untoward effects. and these are now starting to enter what are called phase three clinical trials. many of them towards the end of the summer ux a, and it will ta about year before we show any of these vaccines are actually safe, and actually work. so i don't see a path by which we'll have any of these vaccines before the middle of next year, and even then that would be a world speed record. >> that would be great. i think the important thing to remind people, peter, that vaccine trials take a long time, because the safety is really important. particularly for a vaccine that almost everybody's going to want. right? talking about billions of people wanting this vaccine. so we do have to make sure that

it's safe. that as the president likes to say, i don't typically quote him, that the cure is not worse than the underlying problem. vaccines have to be safe for people. >> well, the consequences are getting it wrong are catastrophic. this happened last year in the philippines and it led to a loss of confidence in the whole vaccine infrastructure. parents stop vaccinating their kids against measles resulting in thousands of deaths, tragically. the problem with vaccines is that the safety -- the good news is the safety bar is extremely high. you -- we're basically taking something and injecting it into people who are otherwise well to prevent them from getting sick. >> doctor -- sorry. we just lost his audio right at

the end of that. you got most of it. doctor, thank you for joining us. peter has been on top of this a lot longer than any of noothoug the attorney general will join us next, from minnesota. asking what the future looks like in this case and for this state.

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rioting occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful protests are being hijacked by violent radical elements. groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda. in many places, it fares t appe violence is planned, organized and driven by an an arcticic and

far less extremist groups. >> i don't i the information like the attorney general has but i didn't see it. those across the city, yet to see what he's talking about. this is the third precinct where the four police officers worked who were involved in the death of george floyd. this has been breached several time bice protesters's these jersey barriers put up on wednesday, maybe thursday put up. those were brought down. police put them back up. protesters got back inside again. largely, i said this on tv with brian williams, this was largely a peaceful protest. seems ironic despite the destruction of this precinct, the liquor store and burned out buildings we see around the area. the fact is most who came out to protest, and there were thousands, were peaceful

protesters including the group that marched from the fifth precinct yesterday that then came under fire by the police. joining me now is attorney general of the state of minnesota, keith ellison. attorney general good to see you and thank you for being with us. this is a tough one, because there was disorder in the streets of minneapolis last night and surrounding areas, and the state and the police wanted to fix that, but this -- i don't know what attorney general bill barr is talking about. it may than there were agitating forces. it was not organized in that fashion. so what evidence do we have there were agitating forces here? >> ali, may i just first say that i'm so sorry you got hit with a rubber bullet. i am really sorry about that, and i'm going to look into it. answering your question, however, you know, look, we have seen various reports from various places that there are people who come from the outside

and some might even be here from minnesota. the fact is, most people overwhelmingly are trying to bring justice to mr. floyd's case, and drive towards meaningful systemic change. it is about mr. floyd's case, but it's not only about his case and that's really what's driving most people, the overwhelming number of people, as you saw, but i wouldn't discount that there was some folks who are here for the cause of mischief. i have received those reports, but the fact is, i'm not going to let them obscure the righteous, noble cause of seeking justice for mr. floyd. >> and, again, i know i'm not in a position to prescribe percentages. lots and lots of people were outside and i'm one guy with a crew. most of whom i've spoken with over the last few days were talking about justice for mr. floyd. talking about exampling of poor relations between the police and individuals in african-american

individuals in minneapolis and more broadly, one doesn't have to go for a few days without seeing some example of in is in the news. the idea the law is not applied to african-americans same was as to others and not applied to police who get involved with altercations with african-americans the way it is with others. how does that fundamentally change? minneapolis has seen it for years, but the countries has seen it for decades and hundreds of years? >> no doubt. i think that we need to, first of all, in minnesota, in minneapolis, empower the chief. we have a great chief. he is a reform-minded chief who actually had to sue the police department for racial discrimination himself before he ever became chief. he wants a better department. unfortunately, we have a federation, a president, who operates as sort of an alternative chief to literally undermines good order in the city of minneapolis. so we have to find a way to put

our chief that we've selected in charge of the department. we need -- there needs to be greater accountability, more training. we need to work on officer wellness. that means officers who respond to call after call after call, we need to be able to pull them out of that cycle and say you need to go get right to get with people in a highly professional manner. we need to make sure we do get justice for victims. we cannot have a system of impunity when it comes to misconduct. a range of things and we need a lot of help to do that. the legislature has an important role. the federal government has a role. i have a role. the state does, but i hope this tragic situation gives us the energy we need to drive towards that reform that's been, as you say, people have been seeking for literally decades, maybe centuries. >> attorney general, let's talk about one of the things that was a catalyst for people to

continue to be out last night. the charges against derek chauvin friday. some people hoping that would take a little bit of the energy out of the protests or at least the most damaging parts of the protest. but what people started calling for, were the arrest of the other three officers involved's what do you know about where that stands? >> you know, we're in a very preliminary stage of this. i mean, i can tell you that there's this investigation, it is absolutely ongoing, and that the other officers involved are not out of the woods when it comes to this investigation, and i can also tell you that it's common to amend a complaint, that may happen. so i just want to say that -- you know, when you ask people to be patient who have been denied justice for so long, it often falls on deaf ears justifiably, but i will assure people that the process is early, and that this -- everything is still in

play. last point i want to make, if you'll allow. look, you can expect the defense attorneys in this case to be highly skilled, and experienced, and if you want to make sure that you get a conviction, every link in the prosecutorial change has got to be very tight. so we are trying to take our time to make sure that this thing is done, and when i say "we" i don't mean me. the county prosecutor has the case, no the my office. but i will say that, you know, just think about how the walter scott jury hung. how the, the trayvon martin jury acquitted, even in the rodney king case, the jury acquitted. these cases are tougher than you might imagine. the video is always so shocking, but when you get into a courtroom, a lot of things can happen. so preparation is key here. >> attorney general keith ellison thank you for joining me

this morning and for your appearance helping us understand what is going on in minnesota. i want to have another conversation with you, because there's talk going on from the president this last week, believe it or not, despite not paying a lot of attention to this, talking about a lot of other things. including mail-in ballots and the fraud associated with it, whichy i think it's important fr people to understand is very, very, very low. mail-in ballots have become an effective matter. thinking about the coronavirus, and something we have to think about for reality of this fallal election, i bring in jenna gr griswald, and another guest to talk about this. second griswald, start with you. colorado has a good history with mail-in ballots. i just want to understand. for people who don't study this, who just look at headlines or see something on their google or apple feed what do you need to

know about mail-in ballots and fraud? >> well, good morning. the number one thing that we need to know about mail ballots is that they're incredibly secure. they increase participation. colorado's participation rate went up by 9% when we adopted mail ballots, and we have guardrails to make sure that we're minimizing any type of double voting. and i want to be really clear. the president has told us why he opposes mail ballot. he says that mail ballot will cause republicans to lose their seats. that's what her opposition is about. not only is it reprehensible he would put politics in front of americans lives, forcing americans to risk their health to cast a ballot, it's also just untrue. more republicans have cast a mail ballot in the last the two out of three general elections in colorado. >> let me ask you, david, what this -- when people are thinking about this, because there may be

cause to support this in some way. voters contacted how to handle this, because if coronavirus comes back in the fall it is going to suppress votes and people will want alternatives. why does the president say it's more dangerous? any validity to the idea that mail-in ballots are more prone to fraud than normal voting? >> yes. it's hard to get inside his mind and understand exactly why he might be saying that, but the facts are very clear. voters fraud in the united states is extremely rare. it's no more reserve lent in states that have widespread mail voting than other states. states that have almost entirely mail voting, include, not only colorado, secretary griswald mentioned also washington, oregon and utah, all run by republican election officials. what we're seeing across the states are despite the politics being mentioned here, from places like the white house, republican and democratic

election officials are largely doing exactly what they need to do, which is giving more voters choices so they can vote safely. options to expand vote by mail making it easier. also options to vote in person safely, which are going to be very, very important in november. and in the upcoming primaries. we're seeing this also from the political parties. we're seeing both republican and democratic parties in each state encourage their voters for upcoming primaries and to vote by mail. professionals run being elections and campaigns in states we're seeing movement to give voters for choice, which is exactly the right thing to do. >> second griswald since you're secretary of state for all people in colorado including republicans, strikes me that the concept how you vote and how you get more people to vote, which should be the goal of everybody in a democracy, should not be partisan. so how do you counter the message to republicans, because you've had to do this in colorado, mail-in ballots are bad for republicans?

the definition, they shouldn't be bad for anybody? by definition. >> exactly right. mail ballots are good for republicans and for democrats and more importantly they're good for american voters. in colorado, our mail ballot system was put into place under a republican secretary of state. and we have lots of guardrails to make sure that they are secure, including signature verification by bipartisan teams of jumps. laws on the books about valid collection and, of course, if there's any chance we worry about a specific ballot, we refer it to investigation by the attorney general. in the 2018 election, we only referred .0027% of ballots for further investigation. so colorado has a history of extremely clean elections. and we are really happy to help the rest of the country expand mail ballot very quickly. and i do want to mention not only do we have to make sure that voting is secure and

accessible and safe during the coronavirus, we also have to make sure our elections are safe from undermining countries like russia, and the fact is, that you cannot cyber hack a piece of paper, a paper ballot. so mail ballots are the best-case scenario during times of crisis like the coronavirus and times of tranquility. >> secretary of state griswald of colorado thank you for joining us and executive director for election research. thanks to you both. a good conversation. we'll have it many, many times over the next few moss until people understand there is nothing wrong with mail-in voting. and telling you about a protest in london. last check, about 1,000 people. molly hunter is on the ground. what's going on there? >> reporter: ali, that's right. we're in one of the kind of most central landmarks in london. about 1,000 people here holding up signs that are really

familiar, of course to people over the world. black lives matter. justice for george floyd. a lot of chants specifically about george floyd and we've been talking to people, why it matters that people are out here, why they are out here marching for something that happened in the u.s. you see the march is moving and we're going to follow it for you, ali. i want to bring to you one of the marchers. why were you out and why is it important to be out here with something like this that happened in the u.s.? >> i'm tired. tired of the constant narrative about people of color. for them to just be killed and tired of waking up seeing another person dead. the continue stant a the constant anxiety i feel because of this is unreal. why should our children have to have this in their reality? >> reporter: what was it like watching the events in the u.s.? both the horrible video and now watching the protests?

>> it resonates because i'm black. it's hard for me. that could be my brother here. just because we're in the uk doesn't mean i'm not affected. it resin ienates deep in my sou. i'm a proud black woman. it doesn't effect lee less because i'm here. >> and i'm white and it's a human rights issue. goes beyond color. when black people are murdered we need to speak up to and why i'm saying, people must listen. >> reporter: doing a lot of that. marching through this area. thank you both for your time. hearing a lot of that from the protesters here. it is important that people here in london, seeing the same thing in germany. across europe, ali. it is spreading and incredibly -- running out to join the protests, very well attended and i think it's just going to grow. >> molly, thanks for your reporting. we'll check in during the course

of the day. molly hunter in london, a protest related to activities we've sooner the last few days in the united states. all right. taking a quick break. when we come back our coverage continues. you're oftening ali velshi right here in minneapolis. happen every day. people are surprising themselves the moment they realize they can du more with less asthma. thanks to dupixent, the add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. dupixent isn't for sudden breathing problems. thg in as little as 2 weeks and help prevent severe asthma attacks. it's not a steroid but can help reduce or eliminate oral steroids.

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most energy has been here. here at the third precinct. a liquor store. i was here thursday night back before it started to burn. i want to ask miguel to give us a sense of the absolute and utter destruction wrought on businesses here in minneapolis. so much of the tension, that the protests are important. they are drawing attention to something that has historically been such a major problem for african-americans in this country, but, remember, that if it's a problem for african-americans and democracy and social justice in this country then it is a problem for all of us and that becomes a very, very, very important conversation to have. in the midst of all of this despair that we've been covering the last few days, and it is real despair and real pain and real hopelessness, something happened yesterday that gave us some sense of hope. something to look forward to. i just want to share, ask my controller, i didn't tell them i was going to do this, to show if

they can the launch of the "dragon crew" rocket. play that for a second. >> zero -- ignition -- liftoff of the falcon 9 "dragon crew" go nasa, go spacex, godspeed bob and doug! >> america has launched! >> that's kind of amazing. those who me know there is nothing i would rather do than watch a rocket launch. i didn't get to do that yesterday because we've been covering a remarkably important story here. but who knows about this is a professor of theoretical physics at the city college of new york and bet sst-selling author of a book. michio, i'm so glad there are people about you who think about the future. so much what i've been doing in

the last few days is mired in a difficult past. there is a future. every astronaut tells me the same thing. you go into space and look down on earth suddenly your differences beam a whole lot smaller? >> yes. you know, nasa used to be criticized as being the agency to nowhere. after going to the moon, we didn't go anywhere after that. all that is changing. when historians write history in space travel they can open up a new chapter with this launch. remember, in 2024, it's back to the moon. the first men and women will walk on the surface of the moon sometime after 2024, and after that, perhaps, a lunar orbiter and after that, who knows? maybe on to mars. so just remember, history is being made even as we speak with this launch. >> and elon musk often talks about wanting to be burdied on mars and actually thinks it's

going to happen. regular people dealing with regular lives what should they look at what they see the launches? i love them. what should they be thinking for the future of humanity? >> it's going to open up the heavens. realize, one day mom and dad may go into orbit around the planet earth. you know, in 19 6 wi66 the apol program consumed the most of the federal budget. inevitable that it would crash financially. now prices are dropping. that rocket you saw launched is reusable. that's a game-changer. a re-useable rocket. the price of space travel could drop by a factor of two to five, talking about new era where space travel becomes accessible to commercial interests and, of course, public interest as well. >> one day we'll be on one of those rocket ships up into

space. michio good to see you. thank you for joining us and giving optimism in a week filled with something otherwise. a physicist of "author of future of humanity." all right. take a quick break. when we come back, a conversation about civil rights in the country. how it can change, policing more effective and how we cannot have to continue to cover stories like this because they help all too often.

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-- spoke to george's family. >> didn't give an opportunity to even speak. >> expressed sorrow of our entire nation for their loss. >> i was trying to talk to him, but he just kept, like, pushing me out. >> i stand before you as a friend and ally. >> like, i don't want to hear what you're talking about. >> to every american seeking justice and peace. >> i just told him, i want justice. good morning. i'm ali velshi in minneapolis, minnesota. there were protests last night again for the fifth night in a row. a fourth night in a row, but protests all across america. in fact, i want to show you some of the video from cities that imposed curfews and others that didn't, but were challenged by

protesters across the country. in new york city, protesters were moving between brooklyn and lower manhattan. we saw a curfew in philadelphia. in los angeles. there were, there was tension downtown. 10,000 protesters there. mayor garcetti called in the national guard, closed off the city. washington, d.c. saw protests both at the white house and over to trump tower. seattle, you see what's happening there. and chicago also had protests. minneapolis had a very peaceful gathering, actually,s that wa interrupted quite suddenly by police with support of the national guard. tensions running high still in this city. while one officer has been arrested in connection with the death of george floyd on monday night, three others remain uncharged, and people in the city continue to be worried about the effect of policing on african-americans. i want to bring in two guests to discuss the week we have seen. in fact, the last couple of

weeks. my good friend is joining