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we have the fire department coming in. this is the first time we have seen first responders in this area. and it looks like they are making their way that way. so they have passed basically unlimited looting on this side of the street. they are working their way this way. think time i see any instance of violence, chris, we might have to go pretty quick. what we are going to do is just put the camera down. hello. i'm chris jansing with msnbc's continuing coverage of the we've got people tying bikes nationwide protests following death of george floyd in onto their roofs that they have minneapolis. stolen from rei. we have got a lot going on all this is what reilooks likes on around the country right now. this is the scene in philadelphia where we have been the back side will. >> i don't know if you saidr saw watching looting going on at a it, gadi, but the guy who was mall in the city for the better part the last hour. tying a bike to the top of his look at that. in new york city aerials of a car had on a hat that had a tag large protest on the ground that on it. >> yeah. comes after a violent night. this is -- we have seen easily 345 arrests last night alone. hundreds of thousands, probably a live report on that coming up. over a million dollars worth of merchandise that's been taken.
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this is the scene in miami right now where crowds are marching we are going to go ahead and through the streets. power down. right now in chicago there is a moment of silence that was we are going to see exactly ordered by the mayor hoping for where the police are just for a second here. if we can. a break in violent clashes we will check back with you in between police and protesters just a little bit. that have led to hundreds of >> gadi schwartz, take care of arrests, six people shot, and 20 your crew. police officers hospitalized. thank you. we will come back to you as we here's an emotional mayor lorie see more and get a sense what have might be developing. gadi schwartz, who is in santa light foot. monica, california. look at this picture in new >> this is a city that we must york city. the governor said he expected protect so it can provide for more protests in new york city us. we know it's not perfect. tonight. but if it gets destroyed, we are announced the new york national guard has been put on stand by. all left to pick up the pieces. >> chicago just one of the cities gearing up for another i corey kaufman is there. night of angry protests that from the aerial shot the crowd have grown beyond minneapolis to looks enormous. cities large and small all across the country. >> just moments ago the crowd was behind us chanting, hands they have even gone global with solidarity protests today in up, don't shoot, no justice, no london and other european cities. the upheaval of course sparked peace, i can't breathe. you can see the cop cars coming by video capturing from mr.
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floyd's last minutes as a white police officer kneels on his neck. all of that ehomeowners through now. it is largely peaceful at this association pulsing through an point. we have not seen any violence america ragged with anxiety. break out just yet. of course that's in contrast to what we saw last night, 350 protests after mr. floyd's death arrests made and that violence, were the result of a community cop cars being set on fire and being tested in recent weeks by different assaults happening, both a police violence and a looting of the local businesses. that's not the case today. not what we are seeing. we are seeing many people out here are their signs. pandemic that has everyone full they are chanting peacefully. there was another protest in times square earlier. from the footage we are of anxiety. >> if you were out protesting gathering in new york city we last night you probabliette need have seen several protests going on today. to get a covid test this week we know about half a dozen at because there is still a pandemic that's killing blacks this moment. this activity starting to come and browns in higher numbers. to a close right here in times square as they march down this avenue right here. >> thanks, corey calfin, in >>. >> reporter: we are in front of philadelphia police manhattan for us.
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headquarters. we have several officers again, no curfew in place there standing by protecting the in new york city tonight. property if needed. let's go to sha mary stone, we just a few minutes ago saw a who is with wrc in washington, pauseful demonstration of about d.c. where are you sharks mary? 50 to 100 people. what -- sha mary? officials here are telling me they were around for about an hour. they are traveling west towards what is happening. city hall where there is another >> i am at lafayette park, three demonstration that is taking place. but you mentioned west or four football fields away from the white house. philadelphia. there is barrier here, a gated we have some troubling images coming out of that community barrier. you can see there is tension in the area between these right now where several looters protesters and the u.s. park have rated a foot locker. police over here who are making sure that the protesters do not we have seen several people jumping on top of a police breach this barrier and head into lafayette park towards the vehicle smashing the window. white house. you can see this right now, and we are told from officials there are hundreds of u.s. park on the ground there that they police officers out here. are using tear gas to disburse there is also another layer of security with secret service the crowd. behind them. there is also a tactical so it is reaching that point. vehicle. but there are several hot spots and there are different layers, in the community. we have spent the day at center and mounted police patrols that city where a lot of the looting and the von dahlism took place are near the white house gate overnight a. lot of that has right now. these protesters are furious, actually been cleaned up, chris. the community rallied together, angry, that they say the three came out this morning. officers who were also shown on
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they swept up all of the glass. they boarded up a lot of the that video shown around the world of george floyd that they have not been arrested. score fronts that were smashed it is not just george floyd. in and they started to scrub off they are upset with what all of the tagging that they saw happened with the castillo no throughout that part of conviction. walter scott. they are upset about other philadelphia. so we're seeing the situation unarmed black people who have kind of shifting throughout the been killed, they say, by police area. but there is a tremendous amount officer. right over here this sign this of law enforcement presence woman is holding it says quote throughout the city right now. a lot of them are here at center stop killing black people. and on the other side it says city because of what happened black lives matter. overnight. a lot of these protesters feel but now they are disbursing and going to pockets of west that law enforcement do not philadelphia kensington,port value black lives. now they say there are good richmond and other areas of police officers, there are in philadelphia as the situation their words some bad police continues to evolve. officers. and they feel that the good ones chris. >> cathy park in philadelphia, are not speaking out against what they say are the bad police thank you for that. officers. we want to go to the twin i'm quoting these protesters. cities, what has become the heart of all the protests. you can see them right here. and this protest started at the mogan chesky has been in the historically black college, heart of much of the action. howard university. what is happening there right there were approximately 100 to now. >> a massive protest just 200 people. wrapped up here just outside the as they marched fr eed from hor minnesota state capital. it was one of the largest crowds i had seen since covering this
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story. we are talking about several thousand people covering the lawn. university here to lafayette they have just started to disburse and clear out this park the number of people grew by the thousands. they breached this barrier here area. you can see a few of them remain and they were pushed back. for the most part the protesters on the steps trying to make their message heard. everyone hear wanting to stress this is a peaceful protest and have been peaceful and they want this is how they mean to send to make sure that their message is heard that they are sick and the message. tired of in the words of one they are trying to separate themselves from what has been happening night after night here in the communities where we have woman, police brutality, seen so much vandalism and systemic racism and implicit looting. one of the bigger changes from bias. meantime, funeral yesterday to today is a much more visible police presence. arrangements are under way for if you pan up to the steps of george floyd. the mayor of houston signaling the capital you will see a he will be laid to rest there string of police in riot gear that we saw play out last night where he group. reverend al sharpton confirmed when they enforced the curfew. he will be delivering the yule to the right, you will see two gee to remember the man whose of the now 1,000 national death has sparked this nation. guardsmen in the minimen/st. joining me is reverend al paul area. important to note. you see them carrying their rifles there. sharpton of "politics nation." the fbi confirmed what they are >> you were going through many
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calling a lethal credible threat of the cities where there were against the minnesota national protests. we just saw huge protests, also guard. because of that confirmation, some looting in california. the general of the national when you look at what is guard here has instructed all of the troops to go ahead and have happening across the country, how do you make sense of it? their rifles on their person in what do you see as the addition to ammo. overriding message that is i should point out, the guns are coming out of these last five not loaded. the magazines for the rifles are days? >> i think the overriding on their person in a separate message is that the people pouch. but because they are taking that around this country are tired of threat so seriously, that's why they are now upping their seeing videos of people that preparedness, if you will. in the meantime arc peaceful they have entrusted with the setting here. order and the upholding of the interstates are being prepared to shut don't so people can't law break the law and go away come into the cities tonight. authorities stressing that if you don't belong in that area you absolutely need to leave. unpuni unpunished. we are told then don't believe your own lying eyes. the enter states will be shutting down at 7:00, the curfew will be enforced at 8:00 and we are saying wait a minute, enough is enough. when you look at the fact that central standard time tonight. we have had any number of cases at this point we watch and wait to see if any group will try to over the last several years that has resulted in no form of real contest that the way in which several hundred people did yesterday just outside the fifth precinct, chris?
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>> morgan chesky, thanks. prosecution, lesseneding with we will come back to you should things change. convictions, people have just minnesota's governor is confirming today he has been had enough. asked by the family of george floyd along with several members you combine that with in the of the minneapolis city council last 30 diswe saw ahmaud arbery to appoint state attorney general keithelisson as special prosecutor in the murder case in georgia killed by three men's against exprivilege derek that have now been charged. chauvin. >> i can tell you at this point in time no decision has been brionna taylor killed until her made. certainly as we are saying, it is out there. bed with her boyfriend. it is being considered. police barge in looking for a it would be incredibly negligent man who happened to be already in the environment that we are in for me not to make option. in custody and had never lived in that house. they were at the wrong address. >> the minnesota attorney and then floyd. general keith ellison joins me all in the last 30 days while we are locked down in a pandemic. now. we appreciate you taking the everyone is watching the news, time. we know how busy everything is. watching social media. i think it was just too much because everyone was exposed to let's start there. it. have you spoken to the mayor or everyone is looking at it. and it was bam, bam, bam, one with the family about this? right after another. >> it is premature for me to this thursday is the funeral in make announcements at this minneapolis. point. i respect the county attorney a and later, a few days later we lot. he is a friend. many years. will be going to houston. and they have experience there. but as i have always said, every
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and the attorney ben crump and i single second of my public life, i am -- i am always going assist the cause of justice if called have been asked to speak and do a eulogy at the funeral. upon. you know, i will not shrink from and the family will be speaking my responsibility. but i want to make sure that we and a local pastor in houston to get a conviction. try to give comfort to a family what that means is that we have who wakes up one morning and all got to be very careful, we've got to be meticulous. of a sudden their cousin, their and we've got to anticipate that the defense will attack every count single link of that uncle, their brother taken from them, on videotape. prosecutorial chain. and then told no, we have to wait to see if we can charge the now, no decision has been made. people. and at this point, we are just the family wants first degree nurd and want the other three going continue to have dialogue. officers to be arrested. but i will say that -- you know, we support the family if that. that we've got to make sure the i don't know if you are able to see what we have up right now. main thing stays the main thing, side by side, thousands of and that is justice for george people in new york city at 30 floyd. that has got to be our prime rock. in miami, another huge crowd. other focus. repeated over and over again. and that is my prime other let me ask you about your focus. and so that's what i can tell you, chris. thank you. >> have you spoken to the eulogy. we won't know when you deliver governor or to the floyd family? >> you know, chris, i really your words what is going to be
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hope you allow me to dodge that the ultimate outcome of the law. we don't know if there will be because we are in some delicate convictions. but when you look at these pictures, what can you say about conversations. it is not ready for primetime this man's legacy, about george floyd's legacy? yet. >> okay. >> i think that part of what i let me ask you, though, what you will say is that you can't bring were just talking about. him back. because you know, as well as anybody, prosecuting police george, we can't give the family officers is notoriously back. but george could be the one that difficult everywhere in the u.s. goes down in history as the one >> that's right. >> even when there is video that brought people out, black evidence as we have here. and white, latino and asian, juries tend to give a lot of like nothing we have ever seen latitude to police. >> true. >> how do you assess this case before, that really makes as you know it right now? america have to deal with how difficult a prosecution is policing and race. this? and why? and george might be the one that >> what i can tell you is that goes down in history as the it is a difficult case no matter turning point. who ends up working on it. and they can be proud as their i think that people who look at heart is broken that at least the video, they will look and their brother, their nephew, say what do you mean difficult? look at it. it's so obvious. their cousin became a vehicle for change in the most powerful chris, you are a historian, and you remember the rodney king country in the world, a change that's been a long time coming. case. everybody saw 57 blows on that and that's what i am determined man, who you could anyone possibly walk away from it. to help see that keep going
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but we know what happens in simi valley, don't we? forward. and i think that that is the greatest legacy that we could we know there was an acquittal. give them since we can't give in the walter scott case in them back his life. south carolina. how could that case -- man shot >> it was very moving yesterday right there ended in a hung on your show when you spoke to jury. how about the case involving george floyd's brother and he talk to you about his family's freddie gray? the man gets into the van phone call with president trump. healthy. he comes out of it dead. i want the plo play a little bi and nobody is criminally responsible for what happened to that. >> i spoke to george's family. him? it just seems impossible that >> he didn't give me the that could be true. yet it is true. opportunity to even speak. so it is very important that >> and expressed the sorrow of people understand the difficulty of these cases. our entire nation for their i want to just emphasize the loss. >> i was trying to talk to him, but he just kept like pushing me fact that the county attorney's out. stand before you as a friend office has experience. and ally. and they have very good lawyers >> like, i don't want to hear what you are talking about. there. the county attorney is a friend. >> to every american seeking but at the same time, the most justice and peace. >> i just told him, i want important factor here is justice justice. >> he said he's a friend and for the victim in this matter, ally, reveral. and that is -- my guiding post what is your message to president trump right now, again is that justice for the victim, as we are watching these how can we get that.
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>> and that is exactly -- yeah, thousands and thousands of americans take to the streets i think that is exactly what the for a fifth day? >> that he ought to hear the vast majority of the people, that people are not protesters -- where you or hallucinating. i understand the president and the national security adviser anyone else around the country is asking for. >> right. saying this is antifa, this is >> but blacks have been on the the anarchists. and there may be some elements bad ends of disparities, income, that are trying to instigate, education, now the coronavirus. separate the looters from the protesters. you are looking at thousands of i want to read you a quote from a protester that was in today's people all over this country that are marching peacefully. "washington post." i am not going to stand here and the overwhelming majority of the say the fires weren't necessary protesters are peaceful. said the woman who spoke on the and those that are being violent condition of anonymity for fear and those that are doing other of being 45r78d. things really are doing it in the fires were deeply necessary. to a community that feels it has many ways that defaces the cause not been heard. what would you say to her? of the movement and what george what would you say to folks and his family are all about. tonight, people who are on the they understand the outrage. streets right now who are still i understand the anger. filled with that deep emotion? i have been angry most of my life about it. but we've got to do something about what we are angry about. >> i would say that that sentiment is one that has been and that is what you are seeing people standing up not only in recognized by leaders throughout times square, but all over this country. and george started that.
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history. look, it was jfk who said that >> yeah, i read a quote today. if peaceful change is not -- is i am going to paraphrase it. but it was something like, it's just so exhausting to be black not made possible, violent in america. and i think we are seeing that change will be made inevitable. exhaustion played out on the jfk said that. martin luther king said riots streets, and the understanding are the language of the unheard. of that exhaustion with people who are not black. these are not things that people reverend al sharpton, i thank advocate. this is not what we want to be. you, as always, so much, for but we just recognize that it is taking the time to talk to us. the situation. we will more of our live so what i say to the people who coverage of these protests all around the country next. would rather just condemn and and right now, is a time for action. dismiss the people who have been so, for a second time we're giving members out there, let's try to listen a credit on their auto insurance. this time and understand that, because it's the right thing to do. yes, it is about police we're also giving payment relief options to eligible members community relationships, yes, it so they can take care of things like groceries is about the excessive force, before they worry about their insurance but problem is also health care, or credit card bills. right now is the time to take care of what matters most. housing -- housing is a critical like we've done together, so many times before. issue. education. the disparity in education is discover all the ways we're helping members at usaa.com/coronavirus very, very vast in minnesota. so we need to address these
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underlying issues if we ever hope to stop this cycle of pain. >> minnesota attorney general keith ellison, we do so appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. if and when the decision is made about a special prosecutor i hope you will take an open invitation to return. thank you so much, we appreciate night thank you. >> as we have been talking to the attorney general we have been watching some of these pictures from across the country. tees are in miami. before that, we saw very large discover all the ways we're helping members crowds in new york city. when you think of a bank, you think of people in a place. let's go to nbc's gadi schwartz but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. who is in santa monica, so, when you get a check... california. you can deposit it from here. what is happening where you are, and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. gadi? >> chris, it is a very, very you can detect suspicious activity on your account from here. hostile situation on this side and you can pay your friends back from here. of the protest. there is a protest going on three blocks that way. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?" over in this area it is pretty you can tell them: here's my bank. much unchecked looting. or here's my bank. or, here's my bank. because if you download and use the chase mobile app, so unchecked. right now we are standing next your bank is virtually any place. to -- this is a chase bank. so visit chase.com/mobile. look inside. this chase bank, people have for bathroom odors that linger try febreze small spaces.
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been going in and out in the last 15, 20 minutes, not a just press firmly and it continuously eliminates odors police officer in sight. in the air and on soft surfaces. for 45 days. we are going to walk do you know the street what you are about to see is unfolding in front of your eyes. it is a tense situation. but you have got road runner sports across the street. you can see people are coming out of that. they hit that about ten minutes ago. there was a rush of people that went inside. they are grabbing everything they can. so far the store looks like it has been cleaned out. we have seen this over the last hour again and again and again. we lost track at about six or seven stores on this block alone that have been hit. as you can see, it is basically looting with impunity on this side. why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. again, a lot of the protesters flonase sensimist. that are on the other side of the promenade here, they don't nothing stronger. even know this is going ochblt nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. it almost seems like there is a flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief concerted effort, people may be watching some of the helicopters above seeing where the process is going on. yeah. this moving thing never gets any easier. closer to the pier, people are
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well, xfinity makes moving super easy. taking knees there. i can transfer my internet and tv service in about a minute. they are chanting in solidarity. and then over here it is all wow, that is easy. what appears to be lawlessness. almost as easy as having those guys help you move. you have got some store owners we are those guys. that are putting up boards as we that's you? speak. the truck adds 10 pounds. they are standing heret, puttin in the arms. -okay... transfer your service online in a few easy steps. while across the street this is now that's simple, easy, awesome. active looting. transfer your service in minutes, making moving we are going to take a walk down with xfinity a breeze. visit xfinity.com/moving today. here. if i stop talking we will keep a live picture up. but you will see for yourself what is happening here. so this is an optometrist's shop right here. and this, this over here is going to be -- this is going to be a jeweler's shop. at some point we are probably going to put the camera down on our side just in case. we don't necessarily want to attract too much attention. so far we haven't seen anybody acting violent in terms of
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physical altercations. however, we have seen a lot of destruction. you have got all kinds of people running in here. and the thing is, traffic is still open in this area. take a look here. you have got cars that are basically pulling up, people are jumping out of their cars. they are running inside of these stores where the windows are open, and they are running out with everything they can. they can get in the car and they can go. so it's in every single direction. and you have got a lot of people that were headed to the protests -- i talked to a few of them just a little while ago. we are back live. los angeles will be under curfew and they -- they saw what was for a second night this evening happening here and they decided with residents warned to stay to go back to their cars. home after 8:00 p.m. pacific they didn't want anything to do time. the mayor made the announcement with what is happening here. they said it was a disgrace. following two nights of looting, but, again, most people here are arson, and tense clashes between wearing masks. we are wearing masks. there is no social distance, police. >> as the sun set in our obviously. we will take a walk down this beautiful city last night we saw way. again, we are going to be pretty some of the ugliest images in a mindful about our security. generation, acts on our streets you can see that for the most that were not demonstrations for part everybody seems kind of
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focused on what they are doing. justice. destruction and looting that but if we have to put the camera came from a small group of down, we will put the camera down. individuals. but they have not just caused we have a crowd forming over here. i will going to take a quick chaos and damage. second. that down there is the third they are hijacking a moment and street promenade here in santa a movement and changing the monica. it is filled with shops. so far we haven't seen a lot of conversation. >> nbc's aaron mclaughlin was the crowd go down to the street promenade. lines on the other side where there. she joins us from los angeles. there is an extremely peaceful this here, this is fourth thosg we a short time ago saw horrible protest. so happening over here. scenes of looting in santa monica, which is nearby. what is going on in los angeles again, you have got just normal people you have got some kids walking around here. i don't think people realize today? >> hey, chris. what's going on until they hear here on melrose they are that breaking of a window. cleaning things up. but it looks like -- it looks much of the destruction and like you have got people going looting you just heard the mayor referring to there happened on inside and outside of the rei. this stretch of businesses restaurants. as you can see, they are carlos, hey, do you mind if we just put it down -- take the boarding up this computer repair camera and kind it put of down. we are going to put it down just shop. this was also targeted. this is a pizzeria. to give you a real look at let me let the camera pan inside what's is happening right now. to show you what happened. but you have people basically according to the people here, standing around. and then you have got people that are making their way inside the protesters or rioters rather
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showed up, torched the place, through a small hole inside of and stole all of the wine from rei. this restaurant. this is a much-loved restaurant and then you have got some of nancy silverton, a world employees that have been over here trying to part phi some of these stores. renowned chef and covid 19 and then they fall back when they are unable to. survivor. she joins me now. you have got people running do nancy, talk to me about what you know with surf boards that happened here. they have stolen. >> you just saying i am a covid it sounds like we are hearing for the first time on this side of the street we are hearing -- survivor, now i am a covid here comes somebody with a bike survivor and a looter survivor. right now. people are just grabbing bikes. right? never wanted those two grabbing everything they can. then we have got what sounds accomplishments, but i was given them. like alarms down the street. i am certainly dealing with them. last night i watched my let's head towards the alarms. yeah, here's another bike. here's skate boards. restaurant, mozza to go be and again, this is going to broken into, looted, trashed on continue. you know, to be out here -- there are thousands of people the television. so i just felt so -- it was out here. there is no way that police can quickly clear these blocks. surreal. i don't know how else to describe watching the news and and it is block by block by seeing my restaurant with -- in block. so we can hear some of the flames because they did pour
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police -- some sort of a lighter fluid onto the floor and lit it after >> gadi? they had smashed in the windows >> go ahead chris. >> how long have you been seeing and carried off bottles of wine. this going on? i do >> now you contracted covid-19 helping restaurant workers -- out of work restaurant workers. talk to me about that struggle. >> i have to say, though, i was really one of the lucky ones because i never had symptoms. the only reason i went in to be tested was that i found out that a coworker had tested positive and because we were running this restaurant relief kitchen and i was around several people and also feeding restaurant workers. i knew i needed to get tested. so i got tested. i quarantined. i waited for the results. they came back unfortunately positive, and i needed to not only close my to go, but also close the rely kitchen and it was closed for about three weeks
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until i tested negative. gave it the time. and we reopened mozza to go. in my other restaurant next door, we partnered up with american express and the world central kitchen and we are cooking food for hospital workers. >> nancy, thank so much. we are glad you are okay. chris, back to you. >> one of the great chefs, really, in america. and two great restaurants she has there. absolutely tragic. they have been doing so much good work in that community. thank you, erin mclaughlin. let's go to louisville, kentucky with cal perry. several protests popped up around that city today. what can you tell us? >> today the protests have been peaceful. obviously during the day, it is a different situation than at night. this is jefferson square. there are hundreds of state police officers who preemptively have take then ground. as i walk you through what happened in the last four days,
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this is the fourth night of protests here in louisville. on wednesday seven people were shot protesting a mass shooting. on friday we had a number of arrests, people with bats destroying property. last night a smaller crowd but it was very violent and unsafe in the downtown area. 40 people were arrested and at least five police officers were shot at. five police officers took incoming gunfire. this is an open carry states. it is why you sort of have all of these elements of course all of these ingredients where things can get dangerous. as a force multiplier the national guard is here staggered in between the state troopers. they go all the way down to that street. we have to remind ourselves of this -- it is crazy but you heard erin mclaughlin there talking about the pandemic. we have been talking about people here in town what it is like when you lose the social distancing in the protests. we spoke to somebody earlier. listen. >> we dressed up as tray john.
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we have somebody doing styling because they would be advocating for the same thing as us. anger is different. everyone is expressing how they are feeling different. after everyone is exhausted from being angry we are going to come back and finish the whole battle. everything that is going on plays a part. our part is to come out and give love because at the end of the day that's what we do. >> curfew tonight, 9:00 here. et cetera when it gets dark. we have the dusk to dawn curfew in place. the police said they are going to clear this area tonight at 9:00. we will see who comes out and whether or not it gets violent. >> in louisville. let's go to atlanta, a city where there have been hundreds of arrests because of protests there. blaine, what is happening today. >> just overnight, 157 arrests here on the streets of atlanta. we actually watched most of them happen overyoonight.
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that's different than what we saw on friday. we saw carnage, that's not a stretch. a police car burns. cnn's building defaced. right now, the state is under a state of emergency. the governor has authorized 3,000 national guard troops to fill the streets around atlanta and around the state. you can see some of the troops mixing with local law enforcement. atlanta police officers. what you see is this line, this is something that has become familiar over the past few days, chris, this line of law enforcement. i don't think you can see from our camera but behind law enforcement there is a line of police vehicles, s.w.a.t. vehicles, and more vehicles behind that. we heard from the chooes police chief who says on night one they were overwhelmed. they didn't expect to see what
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they did. atlanta is a city that has a history of protests. peaceful protests. it is the birth place of martin luther king jr., the cradle of the civil rights moving. they are used to having people coming in, protesting peacefully. she says what they saw was chaos and something they didn't expect. since then we have seen a curfew. 9 okay p.m. people are ordered off the streets no lighter than 9:00 and the national guard coming in helping people. i have to highlight, one thing we are watching as well is that last night after officers kind of cleared the streets we saw a police officer get hit by an atv that was going at a very high rate of speed. we are told he is in the icu tonight recovering. just one of many incidences as officers here prepare for night to fall again, chris. >> blaine alexander thank. i know you will keep a close eye on what is happening there. as baltimore residents reach
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a boiling point over george floyd it is hard not to think back five years after freddie gray a 25-year-old black man died in police custody. our next guest is stephly blake, who led the city through the rye yoes and the protests that followed. thank you for being with us. i wonder what you think when you see what is unfolding in cities all around the country. are there things that you learned through your experience that you would say you could pass on? >> definitely. and thanks for having me here. my heart goes out to the family of george floyd. and everyone around the country who is in so much pain this will evening because we as a nation and as a world watched a homicide by the hands of the police officer. and the trauma is -- has been exacerbated by some of the
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police response. what i learned was you have to have the appropriate response to the circumstance. i took a lot of heat because i initially gave the protesters room, you know, to exercise their first amendment right. i was very sensitive to it. i understood the anger, you understand the frustration. and i -- gray -- i was fine to take the heat because i knew i was protecting lives. and when we had the night, the one night of riots with the buildings burning and the looting i acted very swiftly and we made sure that that was it. we had one night. we put in place a curfew meade immediately and we were able to limit the riots and the unrest to just one evening and make sure that no one was killed during the process. no rubber bullets were used and we were able to swiftly gain control in the city. i think that's important. >> were you surprised when you saw the stepped up police presence and the fact that there
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were peaceful crowds where rubber bullets were fired, where tear gas was fired? >> i wasn't surprised because in a lot of these places they jumped to bring in national guard. and we saw just like with the reporter that got arrested and the reporters were many stations who have gotten hit with rubber bullets and you know, been affected by the tear gas. when you have the local police -- i think they have much more nuanced response to protesters than state police and national guard and when you have an overmilitarized response to a -- to a crisis and to the frustration that people have, things escalate. and once they escalate, it gets out of control. and we are seeing that go on all around the country. that's why i was so -- i was so concerned to make sure that we got it right and make sure that it was only one night of the unrest in baltimore.
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>> we were watching some of the looting that's been going on around the country. and, look, know very well that in many american cities they have spentiers if not decades trying to build a viable business community, a lot of these communities have been underserved for a very long time. now you have local low owned businesses that are gone. here's what one woman who lives in milwaukee told the abc station there. >> they went straight to office max and dollar store and every store over here that i go to. i have nowhere to go now. i have no way to get there because the buses aren't running. these people did this for no reason. it's not going to bring george back here. george is in a better place than we are. last night -- i am going to be honest, i wish i was where
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george because this is ridiculous, these people are tearing up our livelihood. >> and we have seen business owners break down as well because they have lost essentially their life's work. how concerned are you in the aftermath of this for what it means to so many cities and the particularly communities of color that have worked so hard for so long to build viable businesses? >> you know, i'm torn, because i heard women like the woman we just heard in baltimore in tears talking about the stores that they fought so hard to get into their neighborhoods being destroyed. but i also understand the frustration. so in this situation i think so important for me to lean on community members to help us to quell the violence because they knew the difference between the looters and the protesters. and they were the ones that worked with us on the ground.
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clergy leaders. other, you know, faith leaders, our community and civic leaders, they did the work on ground to make sure that you know out in the street people know that, you know, it was not in freddie g y gray's name that these buildings were being burnl and properties being looted it was not had his name. i stood with freddie gray'ster who said that same thing. we need to hear more messages from the community members to make sure people understand this is not helping the situation. and when the riots are over these people that are doing the looting are going to be gone and and the people that are in these communities are going to be left to pick up the pieces. and i just think that that is heart wrenching. >> former baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings-blake, thank you so much for your insights and for taking the time to be with us today. i know lots going on in your city as well. we're happy that many, many, many of the protests there have been peaceful. thank you so much. we're going to be right
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domestic groups that have been classified as terrorist groups. antifa by definition isn't really a group. so it's not sure what will come of this. in the days ahead, we haven't seen any paperwork yet from the white house. i think perhaps that's something that comes across tomorrow. but i wanted to draw the contrast there with former vice-president biden. the president, of course, we have not seen today. the white house called an early lid which means he had no public events, no public statements, but he has been tweeting and it has not been a message of trying to heal or a message of understanding or a message of the nation to rally together after a very trying few days, but rather leaning into political scores, blaming democratic mayors and governors and even at one point tweeting, retweeting a posting from the conspiracy group q, as he has been, again, pressuring -- putting out a message of strength in law and order rather than reconciliation. >> yeah, your colleague julie pace wrote, the president
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latched onto personal grievances and cast himself as a victim while making only occasional references to the staggering loss of life across the country. he's willingly stoked partisan divisions over public health and now racial divisions in the face of death rather than seeking opportunities to pull a nation together. a new washington post poll, though, shows he's ten points ahead of voters' enthusiasm level. clearly he thinks, his campaign thinks maybe this division policy is working for him. >> they clearly do, and the president really only has the one playbook. every crisis he's encountered including his own making, russia, ukraine, the impeachment inquiry, this is what he does. he doesn't try to unite. he fights, he tries to divide. he plays to his base. he puts out incendiary tweets and divisive messages. we're seeing that again here. it is obviously entirely too early to know how this will play out politically, and then for most people that's not really the point right now. cities are burning.
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and a good sunday evening to you. craig melvin from washington, d.c., our nation' capital bracing for perhaps another night of unrest as protests continue all over america right now. i'll step back so you can see the scene here at lafayette park. you are looking at park police. you are looking at secret service agents. essentially holding the lin
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