and a good sunday evening to you. craig melvin from washington, d.c., our nation' capital bracing for perhaps another night of unrest as protests continue all over america right now. i'll step back so you can see the scene here at lafayette park. you are looking at park police. you are looking at secret service agents. essentially holding the line in front of the white house.

this is closer than protesters were able to gather last night. so far largely peaceful. so far we have not seen any unrest so to speak, occasionally a water bottle will be tossed, an apple core. but so far, by and large, largely peaceful. the same can be said for minneapolis, minnesota right now. a live look at the scene in minneapolis as we look at hundreds, if not thousands of protesters there who have taken to the street for yet another night there in minneapolis. back here in d.c., 17 people were arrested last night. 11 officers were injured. and the national guard was also deployed. dozens of cities still dealing with protests, at times violent clashes as well. gabe gutierrez remains on the ground for us there in minneapolis. and, gabe, we just saw the scene above. what's it like on the ground right now? >> reporter: hey there, craig.

good evening. we're here actually -- let me paint the scene for you. we're here outside of the cup foods, and this protest has been empressful. this gathering, actually, has been peaceful throughout much of the day as more and more people have shown up here. i'll set you the scene. this is the last -- this is where george floyd spent the last few moments of his life. the incident happened just over there. and you can see a makeshift memorial -- it's actually kind of hard to see because so many people are here right now. but there is a makeshift memorial that is growing here on the ground. we are a little under two hours away from curfew here in minneapolis. about an hour ago, the highways have shutdown for a second straight day. now, yesterday, craig, you'll remember that for the first time in several days, police took much stricter measures and they really cracked down on anyone that had stayed past the curfew. they got some criticism for that, of course, because there were peaceful protesters, but they fired tear gas anyway. still, authorities said that's what they needed to do in order

to restore order. for several days prior to that they had mostly retreated. and as a result, there was rioting, looting, and all that. but right now there are peaceful protests today. the temperature in minneapolis has calmed down significantly, and both local residents and authorities say that that is a very positive development. i spoke with the county sheriff here earlier this morning, though. i spoke with the county sheriff here earlier this morning, and he said that, you know, he acknowledged that law enforcement really didn't have a plan several days ago, and it took until recently for them to have a unified command. and that's why they cracked down yesterday. so, again, craig, we're waiting for the curfew to go into effect in about two hours or so, at 8:00. it runs till 6:00 a.m. central time. highways are already shutdown. one more thing i should tell you about, the minnesota national guard says that it was warned by the fbi of a credible lethal

threat against guards men, and that's why minnesota national guardsmen are armed right now. police aren't taking any chances at this point, but, again, the hope is that there could be another second night of relatively peaceful protests and not the violence that we saw several days ago, craig. >> all right, gabe gutierrez there in minneapolis. gabe, thank you. i want to show you just something here and literally in the last five minutes we've seen the crowd disperse to a certain extent. if you saw us just a few minutes ago -- okay, well, save the man screaming at police here. largely dispersed. we were told that they are going to be marching around the white house. so within the last five minutes, a few hundred people mobilized. they walked that way. there appears to be some sort of march around the white house that's going to be happening here shortly. meanwhile, on the west coast, santa monica, gadi schwartz is there. and, gadi, i think we have a look above the scene there in

santa monica, and there's gadi on the ground there. gadi, what's the scene? >> reporter: craig, on one side of the promenade, there is a very peaceful protest. on the other side where we are right now, it's absolute chaos. right now firefighters just made their way into this r.e.i. i'll walk around. there is a lot going on. up and down that street, down this street there has been active looting probably for the last 45 minutes or so. it has been completely, completely unchecked. you can see some people are getting pretty aggressive. if you see us put our camera down, we're going to try to minimize any type of antagonistic action out here. but this is what the firefighters who went inside here encountered. they actually made entrance, and they saw looters inside. so they came face to face with looters because there are no police in this area, but there are active flames right now inside of r.e.i. down the way, way down there,

you can see those lights flashing. that's where the skirmish line is. i'm going to walk you down to where it looks like we're going to see some sort of confrontation. craig, i want to make sure to point out there's three different groups that we kind of see acting out here. there are the protesters, many of which look at this with disgust. they say this is not what they want. this is no way to voice their discontent and their rage. and then there's another group that is seen as opportunists. we've seen carfuls of people coming in and they are basically -- so, over here, you have police around. this down here is where the promenade is. this entire stretch all the way down that way, all the way down that way, there is looting. so we're going to walk over here. the main place police say they

are going to try to have a standoff is down toward the promenblade. to protect for rigt now. we've seen things like banks that have been gone inside. we have banks that have been breached. we've got a lot of people around here. craig, i'm going to go ahead and pass it back to you. in just a little bit, we'll be right back. craig? >> okay. gadi schwartz there in santa monica. here in washington, we changed locations here just a few moments ago to try and give a better vantage point of what we saw happening. again, top of the hour, seven minutes ago, folks gathered outside the white house. they were chanting, and then we heard a bunch of folks scream that they were leaving to go and march around the city. and then someone else said they were going to be marching around the white house. there appears to be, again, some

movement here, 16th and h. for folks who are familiar with the city, just to show you, there's the white house right there, and you can see the secret service on top of 1600 pennsylvania. you can see the park police in front here, in lafayette park. and more secret service agents as well. i counted well over 150 just in front of the white house. kathy park is in philadelphia, as we hear some sort of bang here in downtown d.c. not sure what that was. but kathy park is in philadelphia where, kathy, just a few hours ago, the situation there in america's fourth largest city was quite hairy. how are things now? >> reporter: hey, craig, so, i do want to clarify. where we are right now, we're at the municipal services building and it's been relatively calm. we have several officers standing by and demonstrations

have been kind of circulating throughout this area. and they actually headed the other direction and they're going to the police headquarters. but for the most part, these demonstrations have been relatively peaceful throughout the day. however, you mention the unrest. that's happening in west philadelphia where we saw dozens upon dozens of looters raiding a footlocker. we saw several individuals actually jumping on top of a police vehicle, just smashing the windows. so that is certainly a hot spot right now. we are told that reinforcement has been kind of stepped up here in the center city area where a lot of the looting and vandalism actually took place last night. we were there this afternoon. we saw a lot of the businesses being boarded up. a lot of the community members coming out, washing off all the graffiti that was painted on the walls. and it was kind of an organic

effort. community members here say they wanted to take back their community because this is not what they stand for. they do not condone the violence. but meanwhile, craig, i kind of want to set the scene here a little bit more. i told you the situation is dynamic. we have seen protesters coming in and out of this area. there is certainly a lot of offensive language and tagging on the ground. we won't show it to you, but it's certainly tense, but not as tense as what we saw this time yesterday. behind me is a frank rizzo statue where, you know, protesters yesterday tagged it, vandalized it. they were actually trying to pull it down, but they weren't success. . you can see it's cleaned up. so for now where we are, things are relatively calm. west philadelphia a much different story, though. craig? >> okay, kathy park there in philadelphia. meanwhile back here in d.c.,

there is sort of a spontaneous march that appears to have popped up here on h street. again, we are just steps away from the white house, but hundreds, if not thousands of people filling the streets here. you can hear the "no justice no peace" chants. you can see the black lives matter posters as well. we are going to continue to monitor the scene here on the ground in washington. but kasie hunt is standing by for an important conversation with val demmings. kase, i'm going to send it back to you. >> thanks, cambridge analytica. it's always great to have you back here in washington and we, of course, will be back with you momentarily as we continue to monitor what's going on here in washington, d.c. as well as protests across the country with our nbc teams fanned out. but i do want to get to florida congresswoman and former orlando police chief val demmings. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this evening on what is clearly another very

difficult evening here in the united states of america. , and you know, we are looking for and watching how police officers across the country are responding to this. we have seen disturbing clashes in a number of american cities. and i think to start, my question for you, as we grapple with the anger and pain that's on display here, you were a cop for nearly three decades. do you think that policing now in this country is fundamentally broken? >> well, i want to appreciate or thank you for the invitation to join you tonight. and, no, i do not think policing in america is broken. as you well know, the overwhelming majority of law enforcement officers in our nation have the mind and the heart for the job. i've worked with some of the bravest, most courageous men and women that america has to offer. but what we all have seen on the

tape involving george floyd was absolutely wrong. and the officers need to be held accountable. we also know -- i think since the beginning of time -- that there have been issues involving certain police officers who just should have never been in the profession in the first place. and we have to continue as a nation to deal with bad cops. but we also have to continue as a nation to address systemic racism in the first place. we see it in everything. we see it in law enforcement. we see it in housing. we see it in education. we see it in health care. and so while it is a sad time for america, i really am hopeful because when i look at the protesters and demonstrators who, really, we're at a tipping point now. we need their voices. we need recommendations. we need young advocates to continue to participate in the process, bring them to the

table, get their suggestions. and i am hopeful moving forward that the future will be better than our past. >> what did you do when you ran the police force in orlando to try and address systemic racism that you think others should be trying to replicate right now in this difficult moment? >> well, i really think it starts with hiring the best men and women to do the job in the first place, and that's why we really -- law enforcement agencies all over the country, we need to look at hiring standards. we also need to look at pay and benefits. we kind of get what we pay for. but the best way to stop the problem is to prevent it from happening in the first place. also looking at training, we need to make sure we're giving officers alternatives. looking at our use of force continuum, making sure they're able to use de-escalation skills

as opposed to resulting to hands-on force. certainly what we saw, the officer in minnesota do, he didn't learn that at any police academy. he certainly didn't learn that technique through training at the police department. but we also have to look at training officers who are training our police officers because they are the ones who set the standard for what's acceptable and unacceptable at police departments. and we need to look at our policies in the first place. we need to have zero tolerance and hold officers accountable who certainly are engaged in racist behavior. they need to be fired and prosecuted if the situation calls for that. but we need to hold them accountable. >> yeah. congresswoman demmings, you yourself have said you are on the short list to be joe biden -- former vice-president joe biden's running mate coming up here in the fall. given what is unfolding on the streets of this country, how

important is it that the former vice-president choose a person of color to be his running mate? >> well, let me say this. i think it is important for the vice-president to choose the person that he believes can best address the issues within america. certainly criminal justice reform is -- look, is at the top of everybody's mind. it has been at the top of our minds for decades in this country. so we need to address it. but we also, as i indicated in the other issues that we face, we need to look at disproportionate treatment of black and brown people throughout the country. and as i said, you see it in just about every area. and so we need to deal with it. the vice-president will select the person he feels can best work with him to move america forward and in the right direction, and hold america to

its promise. but let me just remind you that, you know, the american people will also help to decide -- joe biden, when you started off the presidential race, there were i think 24 candidates on the stage who were in that race, and the american people decided that joe biden is the one that they believe can move forward an agenda that works for everybody, and he'll choose a running mate that can also move forward the same agenda. >> all right. congresswoman val demmings, thank you very much for your time and your insights on this, again, very difficult evening in america. thank you. i want to send things back down the road to craig melvin who, again, is out in the streets here in washington, d.c., with protests -- with the protesters. craig? >> kasie, thank you. thank you for having me this hour as well. let's go now back to the west coast. los angeles mayor eric garcetti joins me now. mayor garcetti, always great to

have you. thank you for your time this afternoon. we should point out that -- >> thank you, craig. >> it was announced here in washington, the mayor here, muriel bowser, has called for a curfew tonight. a number of folks had been requesting that she do that. just minutes ago the mayor of washington, d.c., announcing curfew from 11:00 tonight until 6:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. she's also activated the d.c. national guard as well to help here. mayor garcetti, i know that's something you did as well there in los angeles, a curfew, called out the national guard. you had been somewhat reluctant to do that, as i understand it. what changed your mind? >> well, it's never what we want to see on our streets, but we need to demand justice and protect people. those are both our responsibilities. every mayor in america, every elected official from the white house down to the local dog catcher should be able to see clearly in justice and murder when they see it and demand not just words, but actions that

take us a step forward or a giant leap forward. but at the same time, in all of our communities we can't move towards justice without peace on our streets. and we know that there are folks who are exploiting this moment, who are probably celebrating that the images are changing from justice. and when is the last time we saw george floyd's face? instead what we see on the streets, chaos and looting and other things. so we need to make sure that we bring peace back to our streets to protect our rights to protest, to protect our right to outrage and get back to the work of justice that we need. >> and that, you know, mayor, i'm glad you made that point because it should be noted there have been hundreds of protests all over this country, and they have been largely peaceful. it should be noted that there have been a number of massive protests that have gone on that have not turned violent. you said something yesterday that caught my attention and i've heard this from a number of other city leaders as well. this idea that what's happening in your city is being fueled, in part, by outside agitators.

people who are not from los angeles. percentage-wise, how large of a group would you say that is in los angeles? >> oh, i think almost everybody here is from los angeles. i have a very different perspective than what i've heard in other places. but there are folks who would exploit it who are not from that neighborhood who come in to loot. others who come in to light up a bus. or to set a police car on fire full of bullets that could explode and kill innocent people. those people are committing crimes. those people aren't interested in a resolution, in dialogue, in hearing the pain of people of color in this country, being met with public policy, and changes in our criminal justice system. but i could see a lot of hopeful moments out there where i've seen police officers and our chief michael moore, for instance, sit down, go behind the lines and talk to folks that are out there and listen and shake their hands afterwards. i know that doesn't lead the news, but for every bad actor we

see, there's probably 20 and 30 folks demanding to be heard and demanding leaders do something. whether it's expanding youth programs or making college free, whether it's expanding health care or getting testing to the black community during the covid-19 crisis. these are the things that will change our country as well as change our hearts. and so i hope that we can open up those spaces and places. i talked to my chief, where can we go to walk with protesters? where can we go as long as people are peaceful, we are supporting what they are doing and they know we are as disgusted as police officers as they are? that's going to be necessary for the healing and for a moment america found common ground. every good cop in america, every regular resident with a heart, every young person saw wrong and it ignited them. we cannot let somebody divide us from the unity that we had for a moment simply because they want to break in and steal something from a store or light up something that would cause us to see damage in our cities. that is not who we are as america.

>> the mayor of los angeles, eric garcetti. mayor garcetti, thank you. thanks for your time, sir. good luck to you there, okay. >> thank you. god bless and strength and health to you. >> and god bless you as well, mayor, thank you. thank you. let us go back for a moment to where all of this started again, minneapolis, minnesota. mayor garcetti just mentioned that the death of george floyd, morgan chesky is only ground t for us in minneapolis. morgan, what are you seeing on the ground? >> reporter: yeah, craig, we're standing just at the end of the 35 west bridge. this was the scene of a massive protest today where thousands of protesters were peacefully protesting by sitting down on this bridge. and you can see that scene has deteriorated, craig. witnesses are telling me that within the past 45 minutes, a large truck or semi-trailer drove into the crowd on the other side of those highway signs, injuring dozens of people

and causing pandemonium on the bridge, at which point those hundreds of people started running towards our position where we are right now. now, we do know that upon retreating, there was a massive police response as you can see. they've gone ahead and blocked off that bridge right now, craig. and you can see this crowd remaining here on the scene. just about 25 yards apart from police officers with minneapolis p.d., and they do have tear gas and we're told they did use mason protesters to try to clear that bridge. at this point in time, craig, we do not know how many people were injured on the bridge. we're awaiting the official numbers from those responding to this. this was the scene thats what relatively peaceful and all of that ended within the past hour. on our walk here, which is about a mile from where we were located, we had people streaming down the bridge, tears running

down their faces because of what they witnessed on this stretch of road just a short time ago. and you can just feel the tension rising here as you see this entire interstate blocked off. we have officers carrying batons on the roadway, bike cops to my right. and in a scene, a tragic scene just beyond the bend of that bridge, craig, we're going to try to find out much more right now. but this is tough. this came on a day where people were proud of being able to peacefully protest and then to have this happen, it only exacerbates the tension in minneapolis today. craig? >> okay. morgan chesky on the ground for us there in minneapolis. and if the control room could bring up the shot i just saw for a second on the left side of the screen, if we can bring that on full for just a moment there in the control room, i want to -- trying to make out exactly what that is and i can't, so i'm not

going to hasten to guess. but it appears to be law enforcement of some sort there on an overpass in minneapolis. we'll try to figure out exact little what that is or what's going on in minneapolis. but back here, 1600 pennsylvania avenue, just to set the scene once again, you can see, of course, the white house behind me. the crowd here, it has not dissipated. this crowd has just moved. it's moved about a block or two away. we were told that they were organizing for some sort of march around the white house. that march has not happened yet, but i can tell you, and you can't see it from our vantage point, but about two blocks that way you've got about a thousand people. as we look and listen to the military that looks to be a d.c.p.d. helicopter actually flying above. helicopter has been flying above the nation's capital pretty much nonstop for the past few days. eddie glaude joins me now, professor of african-american studies at princeton university.

he's become a truly invaluable voice over the last few days in the midst of all of this. professor glaude, thank you so much for your time again on a sunday evening. the last time we talked, professor, it was before a lot of the demonstrations had turned violent. what we have seen over the last few days in our country, these protests that started in minneapolis that have spread to salt lake city and los angeles and miami and washington and philadelphia, cities large and small. what do you make of them? >> the country stands on the knife's edge. our direction over the last 40 years, deep wealth inequality, kind of partisanship, you think about the two americas, as it were, now covid-19, 40 million unemployed, people losing their

jobs, in long food lines at food banks. as the top 1% make billions of dollars in this moment. and you know, craig, i was thinking about something really quickly. as i was watching those police officers yesterday -- and i'm not talking about the tear gas and rubber bullets. i'm thinking about the intensity of the way in which they tried to disperse those crowds. i want america to understand that that's how our communities are often policed. that police come into our communities and they bully us. they exert a certain kind of forcefulness when they speak to us with disrespectfulness when they speak to us. so part of what i'm trying to suggest here that what america is seeing, outside of the tear gas, outside of the rubber bullets, is in some ways an insight into the ways in which black communities are policed in this country, that then results in the ugliness of what happened and the evilness and cruelty that happened to george floyd.

>> it's never going to stop. >> professor, standing just a few feet from the white house, president trump has been criticized by a number of folks for not addressing the nation. a number of people have called for the president to try and at least sort of heal the wounds that we've all had ripped open once again over the last few days. do we need to hear from the president in this moment? and if so, what do we need to hear from him? >> you know, one of the things we need to realize, craig, is we need to stop extending normalcy to this president. stop expecting him to act like someone who deserves to be in that office, knows how to lead. so i don't think, based on his twitter feed, that he will have anything to say that will actually be felt as genuine and helpful. his silence reflects, in my view, what he cares about and what he doesn't care about. it speaks loudly. and so at the end of the day,

you know that he thrives on division. in the election cycle, these demonstrations, protests will help his chances. he does not give a damn in my view about the current state of the country. if he did, he would be doing much more of what he's doing. he da mn sure what he -- sorry about the language, this anger. >> that's okay. professor eddie glaude. professor, always appreciate you. thank you, sir. >> there's no excuse for that. no excuse. >> let us go from washington to atlanta now from our nation's capital to the capital of the south, if you will where the mayor of atlanta just briefed reporters a short time ago. blayne alexander is covering the city, and she lives in the city, for the purposes of this conversation as well. blayne, what did we hear from the mayor? >> reporter: so, craig, what we heard from the mayor was some very swift action that she

announced just about an hour or so ago. and it has to do with this video that happened not too far away from where i'm standing. last night it happened just over that way. it involved two students, two college students that go to spell man and morehouse respectively in atlanta. about five atlanta police officers, and it's something that picked up a lot of traction. i don't know if we have that video to show you, but essentially what you see and what played out for many on live television was two students sitting inside of a car. officers breaking the window to get inside and the young man who was sit being in the driver's side behind the wheel ultimately getting tased and both of them being pulled from the vehicle. now, there was something that really gained a lot of traction on social media, something that a lot of reporters, including myself, have asked atlanta police about, actually filed a records request to get that incident report, that body camera video. but what we heard from the mayor today was that two of those officers involved have been fired. the other three who are involved have been placed essentially on desk duty, she said. it was very interesting to watch

because typically, as you know, things like this take some time if there is a concern about the way an officer has behaved on the job, if there is a concern about excessive force. usually those things go through some sort of processes of review. this happened less than 24 hours ago. the mayor said the she and the police chaief sat down and watched the video together, they watched it from five different angles. they decided there was nothing in those videos they saw that justified what the mayor called excessive use of force. so you saw two of them fired. the police chief spoke very frankly, very ernestly. she said she wanted to apologize to people who may have felt traumatized by that who have added feelings of concern about what's going on in the air right now. so that's the situation there, craig. i want to describe the situation that's happening playing out right below me as i stand. we're going to kind of show you a little bit. derek is going to push in. what you see is the police line behind me. you have officers on one side,

protesters on one side holding signs, and they've been facing off against each other peacefully, peacefully protesting for the better part of the afternoon. now, i will say that we know that there's a lot that is happening here in atlanta. a number of buildings demolished or rather vandalized. but the difference here tonight is that atlanta is facing a 9:00 p.m. curfew, everybody off the streets by then. that's when we started seeing the arrests overnight, craig. certainly a lot of waiting and watching to see what happens at 9:00 tonight. craig? >> blayne alexander in atlanta for us. blayne, thank you again. let's step out of the way to give you a look at the scene here in downtown washington. that building there on the corner, by the way, at 16th and h, the one that you see boarded up, the windows at the bottom of that, particular building boarded up tarn, it's a buildint has particular significance to me and my family. it's actually where we had our wedding reception years ago. that's the haye adams hotel they

have boarded up for safety. there's been graffiti sprayed on it as well a few feet from the white house. we're going to take a quick break here in washington. when we come back, we're going to talk to gwen car. agai gwen, of course, the mother of eric garner. especially unique and especially tragic. right after this. for less than a hundred bucks when you switch. get the latest iphone at an incredible price at metro: the number one brand in prepaid. but when allergies and congestion strike, take allegra-d... a non-drowsy antihistamine plus a powerful decongestant. so you can always say "yes" to putting your true colors on display. say "yes" to allegra-d.

to putting your true colors on display. still fresh... ♪ unstopables in-wash scent booster ♪ downy unstopables that liberty mutual customizes your insurance, i just love hitting the open road and telling people so you only pay for what you need! [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ because i trust their quality they were the first to have a vitamin verified by usp... nature made, the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand can leave you holding your breath. ♪

but bristol myers squibb is working to change things. by researching new kinds of medicines that could help you live longer. including options that are chemo-free. because we're committed to bringing new hope into lung cancer care. truly transformative sleep. so, no more tossing and turning. because only tempur-pedic adapts and responds to your body... ...so you get deep, uninterrupted sleep. during the tempur-pedic summer of sleep, all tempur-pedic mattresses are on sale! dan herbal stress reliever sashwagandha,ep, that helps you turn the stressed life... into your best life. stress less and live more. with stressballs.

a live look right now. this is the scene in raleigh, north carolina. you can see law enforcement here. they've assembled there in an intersection. they are holding the line, so to speak. so far, reports out of raleigh that the protests there, largely peaceful. you can see what appears to be a largely peaceful protest as well. meanwhile, back here in washington, d.c., we have moved our location just a block or so from the white house.

we are at 15th street here. behind us, what you can't see is a lot of police officers here as well. police here, appears to be preventing protesters from going farther into the city, if you will. gwen joins me now. the protest we are seeing now play out all over the country. of course, in the wake of someone who said that he couldn't breathe before he died there in minneapolis. eric garner, almost years ago, six years july, "i can't breathe, i can't breathe," his last words as well. gwen, as you have watched this play out in our country over the past week or so, what have you been thinking? what have you been feeling? >> well, you know, i have mixed

feelings, craig. it's like i understand what people are going through. i don't condone the violence, but i do understand it. sometimes you reach a boiling point and you explode. you don't know where that energy is going to land. but, you know, i don't condone them tearing up anyplace, but protesting and bringing awareness about what's going on around the country, we do need that, because it's been going on for so long where they're just sweeping our cases under the rug. excuse me. >> gwen, everyone's good. everyone's good. stand by. everyone's good. everyone's good. everyone's good.

we should tell you, i have a number of security personnel here with me. we are quite safe, quite safe. gwen carr, are you still with me? >> i'm still here. >> okay. i want to continue to try to have this conversation. because we should be talking right now. this is not what we should be doing. just to give you a sense of what happened here, it appears as if some fireworks went off -- is that what you -- it sounded like fireworks, and now protesters appear to be hurtling water bottles. move back a little farther.

gwen? >> yes. >> okay. let's continue to have this conversation. i'm going to have this conversation with you while i move. six years ago you and i, in the wake of your son's death, we talked about how much we'd hoped things would change in this country. you were optimistic then. are you still as optimistic? >> well, you know, little has changed since then. we was hoping that once the video came out that it would be a slam dunk, that they would see how the officer murdered my son in front of millions of people, and we would get justice. but no such thing. five years later, i was still fighting, trying to get justice. and the d.o.j. dropped the ball on me exactly five years to the date when it happened.

so i was so upset about it, but i decided to continue on, and that's how i got a departmental trial. otherwise it would have just went away. but i was determined that it wasn't going to go away, but i was going to make sure that i held up my son's name and that he was going to get justice in some form or another. and it did happen that one police officer was fired, but there should have been several other police officers fired also, and that hasn't happened yet, and they said it's not going to happen, but i say i'm still going forward with it. >> gwen, gwen carr. gwen, thank you. thank you so much for your time and for your voice right now during these troubled times. i'm going to step out of the way again. we've moved back about a block since the explosions a few minutes ago, almost two blocks

here. again, we are literally in front of the white house, as you see the crowd. and we've seen this a number of times now. there will be some sort of -- an explosion, if you will, people run back, and then a few minutes later they all go back. what you cannot see from this vantage point, what we cannot show you, is that the line of law enforcement that's at the corner of 15th -- this is 15th and h here. you can't seize the line e the enforcement officers keeping the people going further into the city. that's what we saw at 10:00 or 11:00 after the assembly in front of the white house ended. you had dozens if not hundreds of people who went into the city, who raised a whole lot of hell, broke into some stores, did some looting, and the mayor talked about that today. one of the reasons that she has imposed a curfew here in washington for the first time in a long time. keep in mind that this city was

under a stay-at-home order up until just a few days ago. the curfew tonight goes into effect at 11:00. that's until 6:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. d.c. mayor muriel bowser has also called out the city's national guard as well. we're going to take a quick break here in washington. we'll be back with more in a moment. this is msnbc. hi. uh, can you tell me how to get to i-70, please? o-okay, are you -- ah, yes. thank you. switch to progressive and you can save hundreds. you know, like the sign says.

switch to progressive and you can save hundreds. when you think of a bank, you think of people in a place. but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. so, when you get a check... you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can detect suspicious activity on your account from here. and you can pay your friends back from here. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?" you can tell them: here's my bank. or here's my bank. or, here's my bank. because if you download and use the chase mobile app, your bank is virtually any place. so visit chase.com/mobile. the first and only full prescription strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel available over-the-counter. new voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel.

voltaren. the joy of movement. new voltaren is powerful tide cleaners is offeringe gel. free laundry services you. to the family of frontline responders. visit hope.tidecleaners.com to learn more.

some companies still have hr stuck between employeesentering data.a. changing data. more and more sensitive, personal data. and it doesn't just drag hr down. it's ridiculous. so ridiculous. with paycom, employees enter and manage their own data in a single, easy to use software. visit paycom.com, and schedule your demo today.

back live here in our nation's capital, this is one of a dozens of american cities bracing for another night of potential unrest. i can tell you in just the last few minutes, the crowd that had been chanting loudly has fallen silent. and if you recall, you had also seen them sort of huddled there together. the crowd now appears to be marching somewhat orderly. not exactly sure where, but again, the crowd is on the move here in washington.

also the case in new york city and that is where we find ron allen. ron, what's the scene where you are? >> reporter: well, craig, it's a much orderly night than it was last night so far. we've been following a huge group of protesters who started up near times square is the first time we saw them, mid town manhattan. they are now heading down toward the holland tunnel. we believe they're going to brooklyn. a distance of, oh, 5 to 7 miles they will be traveling. i can only estimate there are hundreds and hundreds of people in this crowd. they are, again, very orderly. the police are following behind them. along the side of them. i've seen conversations where the police are asking them, where do you want to go? and they're blocking off the streets and trying to pave the way for them. it's almost like a parade more so than a protest. and that, of course s what both sides have been hoping for. the police have been saying that even last night they exercised extraordinary restraint, they felt. there were a number of incidents that were caught on videotape especially where there were violent encounters between the

police and protesters, but the police insist those were the exceptions. some of the protesters think the police used excessive force. however, tonight things seem to be going just fine. however,however, it's early yet. it's still daylight here and all the problems come out at night. the police insist that there is an element, an an an arcyist -- anarchist element. >> ron allen in, no. thank you. this is the scene in minneapolis right now. in fact, this just started to unfold a few minutes ago, i don't know precisely where this is in minneapolis, but we just saw a number of protesters hurling objects at police. those protesters, you don't see them in the shot right now. but the protesters are now being

pushed back by law enforcement. you could also see it act that s.w.a.t. rescue vehicle as well. the officer and the tank appear to be advancing in minneapolis. word just minutes ago that the governor of minnesota, governor tim walz expected to speak roughly ten minutes from now 8:00 eastern, 7:00 central. i believe that's the correct ohrting, if i'm not mistaken, control room, tell me if i'm wrong there. it's 8:00 eastern for the governor of minnesota. that is correct. and that is the scene in minneapolis. let's keep that up, in we can. again, we're not controlling that camera. we'll try to keep that up as i bring in kara swisher, of course, nbc news contributor, "new york times" writer as well, kara, a contributing writer, kara, i wanted to talk to up

this evening, because i read your piece on twitter and on the president's rhetoric. and for folks who did not read it, i would encourage them to do it. i was going to put it up on the screen, i will read it for our viewers on satellite radio, you wrote, in part, tweeting misinformation is not new for mr. trump, who uses this service as his political cudgel to govern, campaign and wage petty digital -- wars, it deemed the most of the president's utterances as news worthy. kara, do you think that we are at a tipping point with regard to the president's use of that particular social media platfor platform? >> yes, i do. i think it will be really interesting to see what he does next as he continues to tweet what is a real crisis and create more division at a time of

obvious, it's a terrible situation for our country and tweeting, he did it again today on twitter. he didn't necessarily violate any rules of twitter today. he certainly didn't make it better. in fact, he made it worse about his tweets. none of them are about unification or peaceful for justice or anything else. it's only things that will cause people to fight more. and so, that's not something twitter will stop and they will allow it to go on. but i think that everybody really now realizes that just how toxic, which i have been writing about for a long time his relationship with twitter is. and, you know, he doesn't get a free pass anymore, that itself for su that's for sure. >> you mentioned twitter. but the reality is, it's facebook as well, i mean, some of the misinformation that the president has been responsible for on that platform. i mean, is this or should this be, programs, a day of reckoning, when it comes to all

social media and how these platforms are used, not just by the president of the united states, but by others as well who have used them to deliberately spread misinformation and in some cases do harm? >> yeah. absolutely. nau[ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> reporter: hey, there seems to be some sort of issue with your audio. we will work to get that corrected.

okay. meanwhile, garrett haig is standing by in washington. as i get ready to throw it to you. i think your phone lit up as well with this public safety alert, mayor bowser ordering a city wide curfew for city of colombia until 6:00 a.m. monday, she's activated the d.c. national guard to support the metropolitan police department. that emergency alert coming in from the mayor of new york, garrett haig. are you not far from where i am. at least at last check, you were fairly close. where are you now, buddy? >> i am getting an emergency alert tonight as we speak, if you have to cut me off, go ahead and do it. at a news conference this afternoon, she said she was not imposing a curfew. people would be out late causing trouble, smashing windows. those aren't the people that respond. she wasn't going to do it likewise. she had been hesitant to call in the national guard for use in

crowd control. they had already been deployed in d.c. to help with coronavirus screenings. i am in the square a couple blocks east of where you are around 14th and i never visited washington, d.c., you might have eat frein a food truck here. you can see behind me, police and protesters [ inaudible [ inaudible ] clearly there, a lot of people in the square have cleared out. they have stopped at various intersections. now you got mpd, the local police force and secret service trying to get involved, trying to clear streets or at least trying to keep things from escalating into the kind of situation you saw late last night. otherwise, it was a peaceful day of protest in lafayette park. again, this is the type of

situation that makes law enforcement nervous. you have folks on side streets, up and down alleys. we seen more and more of officers arrive here in the last 15 or 20 minutes or so craig. i feel like the timing, the situation remains. from that it has been on all fight long with this small group of protesters separated from one another around the city and around downtown d.c. as late as it's going to go until they give them the decision to move force from i to close out. >> all right. garrett haig, just a few blocks from here in washington, d.c. as well, again as america braces for perhaps another night of unrest, we are going to turn things over right now. governor tim walz, governor of minnesota, anchor brian williams, a coverage, a country

on the brink after a short break. ♪ limu emu & doug [ siren ] give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ we're finally back out in our yard, but so are they. scotts turf builder triple action. it kills weeds, prevents crabgrass and feeds so grass can thrive, guaranteed. our backyard is back. this is a scotts yard. truly transformative sleep. so, no more tossing and turning. because only tempur-pedic adapts and responds to your body... ...so you get deep, uninterrupted sleep.

during the tempur-pedic summer of sleep, all tempur-pedic mattresses are on sale! in an unprecedented crisis... a more than $10 billion cut to public education couldn't be worse for our schools and kids. laying off 57,000 educators, making class sizes bigger? c'mon. schools must reopen safely with resources for protective equipment, sanitizing classrooms, and ensuring social distancing. tell lawmakers and governor newsom don't cut our students' future. pass a state budget that protects our public schools.

zblshlgs. well, good sunday evening to you, brian williams here with you, even though there is very little good that we are able to report to you during these next several hours of live special coverage. a sixth day now of protests nationwide, all of it outrage and anger over the death of george floyd. pinned under the knee of a now fired minneapolis police officer as onlookers and floyd, himself, pleaded for mercy, on the street and on camera. the police officer has since been charged with third degree murder. there are demand, as you know, for an upgrade to a first degree murder charge. there are demand as you know for the three other officers at the

scene to be charged. there are curfews under what i tonight in candidly more american cities than we can count. let's begin the counting at around two dozen. dallas texas, just joined the list a short time ago. the "new york times" pointing out this is the first time this many simultaneous curfew orders have gone into effect in our country since the unrest that followed the assassination of the reverend dr. martin luther king, jr. in 1968. we're looking in atlanta. we will be looking at live pictures in cities across this country. but let's begin where so much of the protests started, where, of course, the story started that touched it all off. gabe gutierrez standing by in minneapolis where occur few goes into effect there in about an hour. i am told we are working on gabe's signal. we've had a drama in minneapolis on the i-35 bridge 81 town,

which we hope to get more information on and wherever possible, we hope to put a locator in the corner of the screen and tell you, for example, where this video is. what city. we know from some of the markings that this is i was just going to say earlier in philadelphia. philadelphia has had an explosion of violence today, this afternoon, looting in broad daylight. they haves, as of this hour, have four police officers injured. there were a number of the protesters injured. police lost control of one west philadelphia neighborhood and have since regained it, they say. we're going to go live control room if you can help me out, what is the live event we are

joining in progress? the minnesota governor, governor walz of minnesota. >> i watched him lead on the issues of civil and human rights. i watched him gain the respect of the entire united states congress. i watched him formulate and think about things that at the time people said we can't do that, we can't get them done. keith ellisson was the person there to get that. he understood the systemic issues that were holding us back and as a member, one of 435 in the united states congress, his voice was loud. it was also my privilege in 2018, when way was given the privilege of the governor of minnesota, i entered that with keith ellisson becoming the attorney general of minnesota. he's my lawyer, if you will, for the state of minnesota. i watched his vision and passion. when i say my lawyer of the state of minnesota, that itself people's lawyer. he's done that with a command of

the law, with a command of what the law means to people. what it means to stand in front of justice and expect to get that. so this decision is one that i feel takes us in that direction and the step to start getting the justice for george floyd when i spoke to the floyd family. they were very clear. they wanted the system to work for them. they wanted to believe that there was trust and they wanted to believe that the facts would be heard and justice would be served. and i can tell you in minnesota, having keith ellisson as the lead in this case, that will happen, with that, attorney general keith ellisson. >> thank you, governor. my name's keith ellisson. i'm the attorney general for the state of minnesota and it is with a large degree of humility and a great seriousness that my office, i accept for my office the responsibility for leadership on this critical case

involving the killing of george floyd. i want to thank my good friend of many years, mike freeman for the hard work he's done. we expect to work together. there is a lot of resources, talent and ability in his office on cases like this. and i just want to let everyone know that we are going to bring to bear all the resources necessary to achieve justice in this case. and that means that we won't leave any resources on the side line as we pursue justice. i have had an excellent conversation with mr. freeman and we will be working together. this case is unusual because of the way that mr. floyd was killed and who did it. at the hand of the defendant, who is, was a minneapolis police officer. but it is not unusual in the sense that the attorney general's office handles criminal cases and works with

counties all the time. this is not something that we are not used to. we have a criminal division of highly competent prosecutors that i have tremendous confidence in and we have talked, we believe we have the capability and will work with our counterparts in hennepin county to make sure justice is achieved. now, if i may, i would anticipate a few questions. tonight we are not prepared to talk about what the charges are going to be who is going to be charged, it's just too early to discuss that matter. tonight, we are announcing our role in this case and we'll begin the very ernest process immediately and have already begun to do so. and let me also note, a dose of reality, prosecuting police officers for misconduct including homicide, and murder, is very difficult. and if you look at the cases that have been in front of the public over the last many years,

it's easy to see that that is true. the -- every single link in the prosecutorial chain will come under attack as we present this case to a jury or a fact finder and we need to make sure we are absolutely prepared. we intend to be absolutely prepared and so i just want to let the public know that we are pursuing justice. we are pursuing truth. we are doing it vigorously and we are pursuing accountability. but i will be asking for your trust. certainly people will want to know every single detail. i will not share that with you. i will let you know and ask for your trust, we are pursuing justice, pursuing it relentlessly on behalf of the people of the state of minnesota. so thank you very much.

>> thank you, sir. i'm john harrington, commissioner of the public safety. >> as the department of public safety addresses the news conference, you saw the news there that the former congressman, the attorney general of the state of minnesota will be taking over the investigation. our own gabe gutierrez is on the ground in minneapolis and, gabe, i wondered if you could talk us through the incident on the bridge that morgan chesky was reporting in the last hour especially for our viewers just joining us. >> reporter: hey, yes, many of the developments within the last few minutes, actually. first, let me show you where i am. i am here at the cup foods. this is where the incident with george floyd actually happened. a make-shift memorial has grown here. it has been the site of peaceful protests. as you mentioned, within the past hour or so at 5:45 central time, just incredible shocking

video of this semi driving into what appeared to be a crowd of protesters, peaceful protesters on i-35w right here near downtown, minneapolis. we do understand the driver has been arrested at this point. no protesters were actually hurt. but then if you look at that video from one of the traffic cameras, the group of protesters swarms around it and it was witnesses say it was just incredible. it's unclear why the driver hit that crowd, if the driver's just didn't seem to know that, wasn't paying attention, it's really unclear at this point. the driver has been arrested. brian, i should tell you that the highways are now shut down. they were planning on shutting them down anyway as a sort of a way to really restore order here in minneapolis. that happened yesterday for the first time. not only were the highways shut down. there was occur few that went into effect and as opposed to the previous fight, friday night

this time more than 4,000 members of the minnesota national guard really took a more aggressive stance and deployed tear gas and other dispursants in order to get ahold of the crowd. there have been criticisms of the protesters who say their tactic went too far. the county schiff said this is what is necessary and he did acknowledge, however that local authorities really had no plan, earlier in the week in order to handle these large scale protests and now, they have gotten this unified command that they're able to, you know, have more people here on the ground and control these protests. but, brian, i should say, the protests that we've seen today have been very peaceful here. the curfew is set to go into effect at 9:00 eastern time, 8:00 central time. there is a feeling here that, you know, residents had said earlier in the week they felt this great fear that there was a lot of overnight, you know,

rioting, looting. that they say this is not what this movement represents. now, there does seem to be a situation where a much calmer situation here. there had been thousand, even tens of thousands of people over the last two days or so that have come out for these peaceful protests. they say honoring the legacy of george floyd. again, the breaking news, brian, in addition to the announcement you just heard from the minnesota attorney general he was take oefrg the case. by the way, that word hasn't spread so far among these protesters. at a news conference happening right now that is something these peaceful protesters have been asking for. they're demanding answers to what happened here. also those three other officers face charges you heard attorney general ellisson say they won't talk about charges. it is difficult to prosecute cases against police officers. many of the protesters here, brian, some obviously passionate people here. we see they have been peaceful

in here. we should say -- brian, i'm going to send it back to you, however, very peaceful protests here, passionate here. it's unclear what's going to happen when the curfew takes effect in a short time. >> can you read this, audience? >> all right. gabe gutierrez. indeed, we heard an interview earlier today with a woman in that neighborhood who said that they are going to make that neighborhood a safe haven and that obviously it has become hallowed ground in the minneapolis metropolitan area. gabe gutierrez, our thanks. we've had some violence this afternoon in the greater los angeles area. a lot of local folks were surprised to see the protests move in such mass into santa monica. erin mclaughlin has been talking with business owners in the course of covering last night's damage, then the flare-ups of

today's demonstration, erin. >> reporter: hi, brian, well, at the moment, things are relatively peaceful here in west hollywood. let me let the camera pan over to show you the cleanup under way at this pawnshop. it's calm in this part of los angeles. a very different scene play out. i was speaking to the owner of the pawnshop. he said at 10:40 p.m. last night, the rioters broke up. they broke into the shop completely cleaned the place out of guitars, handouts. things that this owner had for sale as well as his gun and bullets. he said that he arrived on site before the police and across this portion of los angeles, you have been hearing similar stories from pizzerias as well as a computer repair shop just the entire area last night completely overwhelmed. but it's been heartening to see here, in this part of the city, the community turn outto help

with the cleanup. this was supposed to be a weekend of reopening for l.a. hit hard by pandemic closures. they're allowing restaurants and bars to open this weekend. they're opening two complete chaos in this section of los angeles, certainly bracing for what could happen next here. >> and erin, i saw your interview earlier with a noted chef and restaurateur, who as you pointed out, also happens to be a covid-19 survivor. she runs this well-known restaurant in that part of town and was spending today cleaning up from last night. >> yeah. it was absolutely shocking to see what happened to her restaurant. pizzeria, nancy silverstein had contracted covid-19. she was actually asymptomatic. she was one of the lucky ones. she had been volunteering,

helping out of work restaurant workers, helping them to cope with the fact that so many restaurants, so many bars had been shut down. when she contracted the virus, herself, she told me that she's now a victim of rioting and a victim of covid-19. she says they arrived at her restaurant, broke in and absolutely torched the place, stealing all of her wine. today, left to pick up the pieces. brian. >> erin mclaughlin, thank you for your live report. we are pleased to have with us bishop william barber co-chairman of the poor people's campaign, the author of revive us again and bishop barber as has everyone has said the same thing to you, during these live interviews, we would be giving anything right about now to change the subject of why we have you on our broadcast. but it's a pleasure to have you. governor cuomo of new york today said at an event, trying to warn

against violence that what violence does when it breaks out in these protests in his words, it gives the president an excuse to tweet about violence, to tweet about looting and things like the national guard. if i gave you a megaphone, will the national audience and this is a modest one, what would your message be to all the people in the streets, all the municipalities across our country? >> well, first of all, my message, brian, and thank you so much, would be three things. first of all, we cannot let this president wag the whole nation with his tale about violence. we know what he's playing. he played this thing about the rule of law, it comes straight out of the south where i am. where even when you had non-violent protests, which the majority, 99% of what we've seen is, that they will say we need

to return to the rule of law. richard nixon ruled it and others. even last night he said the crown jewel of democracy is rule of law. it's not. the crown jewel of this democracy is establishment of justice, providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare and ensure domestic tranquility and equal protection under the law, all of which he is guilty of violating. number two, i would say that we, when we report on this, and i'm looking at your screen now. i'm seeing thousands of people, black and white and guy and straight young and old and they are engaging in first amendment rights and we need to say that. it's amazing how something can happen, violence, we need to look at that and say why? we need to listen, many of these people are sick. they're hurting. they're out of work. some have been through covid-19 or have covid. what is going on here? is it george floyd or is it deeper than that? is that george floyd maybe have been the tipping point, brian?

it may have been that moment. but remember this, you talk about violence, before covid, 700 people were dieing a day in this country from poverty and low wealth. 80 million people uninsured. thousands died from not having insurance in the richest nation in the world. then we find out 100,000 people died from covid and thousands of them didn't have the to, according to a study from colombia, then people are dying from not having ppes, forced to work in lethal situations. and then people see a lynching on tv. they actually watch it. 9 minutes of it. they watch it. what you have here was one of those tipping points and we have to adjust that violence. we have to say, we've had a lot of violence. we had looting. trigger the trillions of dollars stolen from the people, given to corporations in a time when we should have been providing healthcare and living wages. now, i don't condone any form of violence, but i like coretta

scott king when coretta scott king said you will talk about violence, denying healthcare is violence, denying union rights is violence, denying children is violence and also an apathetic attitude that doesn't say anything when these other forms of violence attacking. lastly, brian, i would say we need to pay attention to the public mourning. we don't need to just get, i'm not talking about the persons who would opt in, because we don't know who is doing this stuff. we don't know. we can't put it on the people that are protesting about. we don't know all of that. but we need to listen to these screams, listen to this pain. we don't need to put this pain up too quick. we need to listen to it and hear it. what is this mourning saying to america? what are these screams saying, that i think what's hope? the hope is in the screams. i would be sad to be in a country and people are dying because of public policy, people are being lynched by police on

tv and folks stay home and be quiet and they not say anything. we need these screams. we don't need to let them. we don't need to let somebody that could call out the national guard on 24 hours but could not call out ppes for meat pack workers in 24 hours. could not guarantee people healthcare. he doesn't have the moral authority. we know what game he is playing. we don't need to play that game. we need to hear this protest. brian, can i say one more thing. >> sure. go ahead. >> today is the 99th anniversary of a real riot. the tulsa riots. today when the national guard and white supremacists killed and murdered black and progressive white people in 1921. so america needs to deal with this history. i'm not trying to condone anything. i'm trying to explain it. trying to explain what's going on. people are dealing with trauma. this is public mourning.

and deep hurt. let's talk about poor people. i have a question for you, to end our interview and let's talk about for children. set back from birth, poor children who have been held back now from school, who suffer horrifically compared to the children of wealthy families in terms of the lack of learning over an average summer. say nothing of when a spring of education has been robbed from them. many poor children in our urban areas are now going to grow up in neighborhoods that have been damaged, that will bear the scars of this. i don't know where the infrastructure spending or work is going to come from. i don't know who their advocate is going to be in walking.

who is going to stand up and remind us of the toll of, that has already been taken and you mentioned covid-19, which has cut like a knife through certain communities in this country. >> well, brian, the poor people's campaign are a national call for moral revival three years ago, started organizing and saying we must deal with fave interlocking injustices, systemic raceism, the devastation, the war economy and the false -- of the white nationalism. on june 20th, 2020, we're having a mass march on washington digitally. it was going to be on pennsylvania avenue. we didn't know when we were planning this, that this was going to happen. but on that day, you are going to hear about public education. you will hear from black and white poor people. there are 66 million poor white people in this country. 26 million poor black people. that's 61% of all black people

that are poor and low income. over 50% are poor and low income. we have an agenda, a budget. where is the money going to come from? the money is already available. if we readjusted our defense budget. if the wealth had paid their fair share, if we repealed these unholy tax cuts that we've given, many of these communities were getting infrastructure anyway, they're denied before covid. then covid and before, we have the money. we better have the money. we better decide we will establish justice in this country because we cannot continue with 43% of our people in this country poor and over 50% of our children. we are going to be a movement of all of those people. we've built it. thousands upon thousands of people and congress persons need to understand we're in a new day. democrats and republicans passed three relief bills, three, brian, three of them and 85%

went to corporate high. that's unatenable. that's wrong. it didn't go to the poorest and those that are hurting. now we have congress people need to decide they're going to deal with the effects on the poorest and the least of these. that itself the only way that society is going to go forward. that's why we need to hear the screams of these communities and turn their screams into public policy so it goes from screams to hallelujah. >> all i know is, we got upwards of 105,000 people dead, upwards, 40, 50 million people out of work and many of our cities have been in flames for several nights on end. if this isn't a national disaster as they say, it will do until the disaster gets here. reverend barber, thank you. we value having a piece of your time and being able to ask you these questions. thanks, so very much for being a part of our coverage. let's go to the man we see on screen right now.

that's cal perry. he's in louisville. who ill the reverend dr. barber has been speaking, we have been watching police form a line there, cam, am i correct that they are trying to take a stand to correct the, to protect the municipal building and police headquarters there? >> that's exactly right. you pan to the right. you can see that corrections building. they're moving forward now. so these things ebb and flow. you were watching, it was peaceful. then the tension went the other way, bottles started flying. we had our flash day and that wave of pepper gas, they're now shooting more of it. we got a long here, brian, the viewers now, we have a wall. the police force came across us very quickly like they did last night. they clearly had a time. it sounded like 8:15, they started moving. they came hard and fast. they are trying to get people out of this downtown area.

last night 40 people were arrested. five police officers were fired on, fired on by live ammunition. one round hitting a police car. so we sort of knew from hearing from the mayor, from the governor that this was not going to last tonight. we have not lasted until curfew. 35 minutes still until curfew. they're firing more of those pepper rounds. we will see if there are more flying bottles. that's the line for the state troopers. once they start taking those incoming bottles, that's it, they fire back. one of the concerns here it's an open carry state. that one of those elements that comes into play, where you have all the ingredient for things to get violent. we have the history thursday night. seven people were shot in this protest. that is what people are worried about. again, head lean here, we didn't even make it to curfew. we got another 34 minutes, brian. >> hey, cam, because people are watching who may not be familiar with the politics in the

louisville area and because one of the features of this national protest is that increasingly, every city in town has a name like george floyd that comes to people's lips without thinking about it. that they know, that they know for the worst possible reasons, that there has been an incident that has become locally celebrated that usually stands for injustice. so tell us who the issue is in louisville. >> reporter: brianna taylor. she was 26-years-old. march 13let, she was asleep in her apartment with hfriend boyfriend. she was a health worker. police went on a no knock warrant. they went right into her apartment and exchanged fire with her boyfriend. she was shot eight times, shot dead while she was sleeping in her bed. there were a lot of questions about the warrant. how did the police get the

warrant. why was it a no knock warrant. the man they were looking for had been detained earlier by police. this was under investigation. the policed a machine administratively reassigned. they were not suspended. that is the rally cry here. the key on every american city is dealing with stories like this that is the story here. in the time of the pandemic, an emt 26-years-old with dreams of being a nurse working at two local hospitals, treating people for the coronavirus, killed while sleeping in her own bed. you know, that was the thing that triggered things in louisville. her family said they want the protests to remain peaceful. but they said they are appreciative and grateful for the national media attention. that seems to be the spark that lit the fire here in louisville. but as you said, brian, 22ive cities under curfew, each with their own stories, that's just the story here. >> cal perry, thank you. thanks for keeping an eye on the situation. you and your crew stay safe in

louisville, blayne alexander, who we last spoke to after the real violence i guess two nights ago now is standing by for us in atlanta. and blayne, i know you live there among other things, it's really important to point out the mayor of atlanta has spoken out and spoken up. she has allowed herself to get angry. she has spoken on a very personal basis to her constituents about the city that she thought everybody loved. >> yeah. >> reporter: brian, if you can hear me, certainly, i'll get to that in a second. you don't see me on camera. i moved away, tear gas cannisters went off in the area where we are, literally second ago. so we've moved away to kind of get out of that. i, my producer, our team got hit with it pretty hard. so, i'll describe to you the scene. i think you could still see our live picture. we walked away from our camera right there.

>> yes, we can. >> we are less than an hour away from curfew right now. from our vantage point, we watched this kind of escalation. you know for the better part of the afternoon. we've seen this very peaceful kind of standoff between law enforcement line and protesters. and it was almost kind of this eruption of bottles. they seen water bottles thrown from the crowd. it was at that moment we saw officers deploy the tear gas. we can see it happening from up above. the crowds scattered and more cannisters continued to fly. you know, this is really i think kind of an example of what the police chief have said that they're not having tolerant from what you saw on friday. you know, this is a very different, excuse me, a very different approach from what we saw on friday evening. you know, we now know of course georgia is under a state of emergency. national guard troops have been deployed. have you local law enforcement out here working. you also have this very strong

police line that has been held that is continuing to be held. so, that that issue. that number one. getting to what you brought me in with your initial question, atlanta mayor keisha lands bottom, yes, in a pretty shocking news conference to some, announced two ap officers had been fired because of a video that is now circulating, that many people have watched showing two college students, one from solomon, one morehouse, both local colleges being pulled from a car. the young man sitting behind the driver's side tased. i don't know if we have that video for to you show. for many people it played out on live tv. you could actually see the young man being tased. reacting to the tazer, both students pulled from the car. well, the mayor said she and the police chief for the better part of the afternoon watched that body camera video. she said there were five different officers involved, five different angles and saw nothing on that camera that justified in her words the action that was taken so that's why you saw that swift action

against two officers fired. three that have been put on desk duty pending further investigation, brian. i will say i have requested that incident record that body camera video to get a better sense of what happened so that's certainly something where they wanted to take swift action. but back to the action here, in atlanta, and i can say for the tear gas is still filling the air. we're looking ahead to see what's going to happen at 9:00. that's when curfew happens. that when we saw the arrests, many of the arrests take place last night. again the city made it clear, they will not tolerate what they saw on friday night. brian. >> all right, thank you. try to breathe freely. once you have been the first time you have been exposed to tear gas, you never forget what tear gas is like. it never gets any better. someone today was raising the problem of tear gas in tight

confines in all the cities where we've seen it deployed, what does it cause people to do? it causes people to cough. what are we in the middle of? we are in the middle of a pandemic. people with even a passing knowledge of downtown atlanta may know this intersection, that's olympic centennial park at the top of your screen, while he was talking we saw armored personnel carriers move from left to right two, police lines really advancing in two different directions. look how scarred this streets are. they match the streets of so many of our urban areas with burn marks, with places where bottles have landed, rocks have landed. an ordinance has been fired. so look at the police line on the left-hand side. by the way, one of the topics we will tackle in the next couple of hours is that visual right there. are they soldiers or police

officers? we're going to talk about the optics. the equipment, the kit, the gear, the stance. the visual presentation of so many metropolitan police departments. those happen to be guardsmen who are dismounted next to the vehicle. next to police officers from pretty e met tro atlanta on board the heavily armored personnel carrier. we will take a break in our coverage. it is a long, slow, sad march from metropolitan area to metropolitan area. a reminder for some folks, this is day six. this again a pa rocksism of violence, all of it stemming from the death of george floyd.

welcome back to our live coverage. the city of new york among those with big challenges over the past few night. two of the five borrows mostly, manhattan and brooklyn and some of the trouble in brooklyn has been near the barclays center, the venue where the brooklyn nets play. chris jansing who i thought might grab an hour or two off the air is, indeed, back on the air and covering the situation in brooklyn tonight. hey, chris. >> reporter: hey, brian, well, i have been here for about an hour, i'm along atlantic avenue. i've left the barclays center area. the crowds have not stopped. there have been four large groups of protesters that we would see over the course of the last hour.

and this is one of the things that happen. we see traffic in the other direction on atlantic avenue. they started cheering and talked to public assistance. he says they were born and raised in brooklyn. they were watching through their neighborhood. people are sitting on their stoops and cheering them. they mentioned there is antifa here. there were a few confrontations. there were about 600 arrests in new york since it started. this has been largely peaceful. i talked to a police officer right there in one uniform. i was told to go and talk to him. he told me the original [ inaudible ] center of barclays were there

about three hours today. there were speeches. people were coming in and out for about 300 people. he estimated in the first couple of groups. i was there and i'm not a professional crowd estimator. they probably hat about 5 or 600 people. i can't see the end of this down there. so i have no idea how many people, but there was a group of people holding a large banner that said george floyd. but police have been told a lot of the people here by the way when i asked them where they were going. that i said they didn't know, they didn't care, they were going to keep going. police told me they were going over the brooklyn bridge, i thought they were headed to one place plaza, because a number of the people here were holding signs that say [ inaudible ] we saw a few pretty minor interactions with police standing on the side being very quiet.

wearing their masks. that when they came up to them, they just stood not in anyway affected by it. and they were sitting there, would put their signs up and yell at them. there were very minimal interactions with police. we also saw people asking them why they were here. there were a few people who are not -- with the media either. this has been largely peaceful. i would say by my visual estimate, 95% of the people that i have seen marching over this last hour, brian, are wearing masks. and the people who aren't wearing masks usually have a towel around their neck and have taken it off a little while. i talked to a couple of the officers over by the barclays center. i asked them if they had any trouble with anybody. they western allowed to talk. one of the things they said to me in an offhand manner, the only problem really is the

coronavirus. obviously, this is not social distancing. we're doing our best to stay in between the two groups that have been marching here but again even withholding folks who are wearing masks, it's just been people on top of each other. thousands and thousands of people. a couple observations as we were walking, brian. we saw one person -- >> all right, christensen. >> reporter: who was doing a little graffiti. we had somebody putting up boarden on whole foods. all in all, a peaceful crowd, a large one heading to union square across the brooklyn bridge. >> all right. chris, thank you for that we certainly got a flavor for the movable crowd and we hope along with you that everything remains peaceful along the walk, perhaps you saw some of the live picture from above of the walk, indeed, stretching across the brooklyn bridge into lower manhattan, if you were watching msnbc prime

coverage last evening, you saw our own garrett haig stationed in lafayette park and moving from lafayette park into the area adjacent to it. moved by the crowd, the u.s. park police, the u.s. secret service uniformed division, metropolitan police in washington. it got real sporty where you are, how does tonight differ? >> reporter: yeah, brian, it certainly did. today's protesters had much more move an organic feel, largely by university students down here to lafayette park. it was stationary for a couple hours. a peaceful endemplt i saw lots of parents out here with their kid, then it went through a march. we went past the mall. there were the number of skirmishes with police, people throwing water bottles, people clearing people out of intersections. as we get later in the night, things tend to get a little

sporty once again toward the night. and so, we'll see how this goes. the mayor of d.c. has changed her tune a little bit in the last couple hours. original willty plan was not to invoke a occur few. the mayor said the people who are causing problems are not the people who would respond to occur few anyway so they weren't going to bother wit. about an hour ago, the mayor decided to put in effect an 11:00 p.m. curfew and said they would use national guard soldier who's have been here in d.c. activated already to help out with the coronavirus response. let's not forget, that is the background noise of all of this to help potentially clear the streets later tonight. it may come down to that i will add one other note, the political element to this. we had three night now consecutively of protests in front of the white house. we have learned our white house team is reporting on the first night, friday night, the president was taken into a bunker underneath the white house for a short period of time. under an abundance of caution.

the white house says officially they don't comment on this a senior administration official described it. it shows how quickly the protests took off on friday night and how off guard the patchwork of police that protect the white house area were by all of that. it could explain the more aggressive posture by police, particularly park police and civil service who held a very tight line around lafayette park, most people at the white house were familiar with. today police were standing off more. it was a much more calmer vibe during the day. the day time protests and the nighttime protests can and have been very different as they were in d.c. last night. so we'll see how the rest of the evening goes. >> one more question before i let you go. if you have to go, kill your light or whatever you need to door i was stunned along with you. i saw you on social media last night at the amount of damage in

the neighborhood in and around the white house. branch banks, restaurants, broken windows. some break-ins. a lot of defacement, including the hay adams hotel, which overlooks the white house. the church of the presidents is over there. people really got to a lot of that real estate last night. >> they did, brian. protests in d.c., even large scale public protests we have been seeing are different than in many other cities because they are so common here. this is a regular feature in d.c. i said it before, i'll say it again, there is nothing more american than coming to d.c. to protest your government. police have it down to a science. last night's protest was an exception. i covered big protests in d.c. before. i have not seen that much anger from the folks that are out. that much exhaustion, quite frankly, we are still having the

conversations as a country and the message doesn't seem to be getting through. i certainly have not seen that seduction as we saw after about 1:00 in the morning here in downtown d.c. there has been some criticism locally of the d.c. police, that there was so much going on around the city. again after the vast majority of protesters have gone to bed and the day had been peaceful, than in the witching hours after about 1:00 in the morning, things got out of hand. it took a significant amount of time and energy for that to be brought back under control and led to the damage that you saw here in d.c. overall, compared to a lot of other place, though, a small amount of arrests, 17 arrests total. d.c. police don't handle these, the way other jurisdictions do. they tend to move people not arrest them. we'll see how that changes tonight with the curfew in place and with the city's most famous resident barking into twitter all day long that he wants to see a more aggressive posture taken against protesters, including in the city he calls

home temporarily. >> yeah, including the tweet 48 hours old about the vicious dogs and the weapons they have at their disposal if they need to defend the 18 acres of the white house grounds. garrett haig here the white house tonight certainly in northwest washington. we are looking at the scene in los angeles. let me back up to the previous report we have from lower manhattan, because all of these broadcasts are being done from homes and bunkers and kitchens and not our usual crystal clear control rooms and studios. i could not tell from the aerial shots that were coming from our station wnbc that it was, indeed, the manhattan bridge where we saw protesters coming into lower manhattan. this is why we have friends like kitty tur who texted me the

minute i said brooklyn bridge and, indeed, chris jansing had picked up intel excellence along the roof that the brooklyn bridge was where they were headed. the bridge we saw and showed on our live coverage. it's dark in the best of circumstances here. this is shot from the wnbc helicopter, the manhattan bridge. it matters because it's a large group of people heading into lower manhattan. one of the first guys we all thought of when this started is with us now. his voice is critically important because we need to know what we're seeing. frank figliuzzi, formerly of fbi counter intel, is among our national security analysts. frank, i've been looking at social distancing media with your words in mind. i have been looking at the damage pile up in cities across

the country. and i have seen split personalities. i have seen way different protests by day than by night. and i've seen way different protesters in the space of one city, protesters who want nothing of violence and looting. so please tell us what we're seeing, are any groups helping? are any groups fomenting? and is there any fomenting going on from outside our country? >> so, i can answer that quickly and then expound on it. the answer -- short answer is all of the above, brian. we're seeing components of legitimate frustrated protesters responding to mr. floyd's demise and others. then we are seeing people who are exploiting this for their own purposes, and some of them are more than just opportunistic

criminals. some of them are organized, and some of them have diverse agendas, but are coming together to wreak havoc. and i think what we need to pay attention to here is what we have evidence of, what we don't have evidence of, and what we're hearing from the white house and the attorney general. so in the span of the last 24 hours, we've heard our attorney general call a press conference, blame the violence on a group called antifa, the antifascist movement. that group happens to be largely opposed to president trump. he did not demonstrate any evidence of that. and according to all reports and my sources across all law enforcement, there is a minimal presence of antifa, but a far more disturbing presence of right wing race-based hate groups, such as the boogaloo boys who think there will be a race-based civil war coming. there is also, perhaps even more disturbing than that, if that's

possible, i have multiple sources telling me that the global anarchy movement is beginning to become present and insert themselves in cities around america in these protests. you will know those folks from the infamous time in seattle where they destroyed downtown seattle, but you've seen them at global summits around the world. they are there to cause chaos and havoc. but today we heard the president of the united states -- we saw the president tweet, we're going to declare antifa a domestic terrorism organization. no mention of the other groups. and by the way, no mention that he has no authority nor any legal process to name a u.s. group or organization a terror organization. we don't even have a domestic terrorism law in the united states yet, let alone a process to designate a group. and i'll go a step further. antifa is not a recognized group

or organization in the sense of a centralized headquarters, leadership. they are a diverse network. they are not about centralization. and what i fear, brian, tonight is that this takes us one step closer to a president who simply wants to allow feds to investigate his political opponents. that's where we're headed. >> frank, go back a bit, because people may need to get familiar -- not that they ever dreamed they would someday know what the boogaloo boys are. but go into detail. our viewers are watching. we're watching a scene play out in los angeles. we know as much about these live pictures as you do, to be perfectly honest. we can surmise what's going on. we saw some young folks on the nearby roof. it's clear police are establishing a line at this intersection. we're trying to establish more

information. so, frank, tell us about these groups and what -- who is attracted to them and how big are they? >> yeah, so, the buildioogaloo movement is the mind-set that a civil war is not only inevitable, but it will be based on race in some sectors of that movement, and that it should be incited and encouraged. you can imagine a situation like this right now, that clearly generat generated from a race-based homicide, a police officer of a black man, can be exploited and would resonate throughout this boogaloo movement. it's largely white males who believe that there has been oppression by the government against their speech and their beliefs, so they believe there's equal residence here, right. they will come alongside people like black lives matters and try to exploit this by saying, hey,

you don't care for the police right now. we've never cared for the police because they oppress us, too, and we are one. and, of course, they're not about that. they're about throwing the system out, not seeking justice through the system. and we've seen in reporting evidence that they are in the various protests. you often can know them from symbols, from the way they dress, and certainly from their private social media where they communicate with other known members. they're talking about being there. >> frank figliuzzi, a man who studied this for a living, continues to study it outside the fbi and for good reason is among our security analysts. frank, great to have you on, though the subject matter is sobering. we have a fire developing in miami on the right-hand side of your screen. we have a chaotic intersection in los angeles. we have live reports from many more cities. our coverage continues right after this.

facing leaks takes strength. so here's to the strong, who trust in our performance and comfortable, long-lasting protection. because your strength is supported by ours. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. n-n-n-no-no still fresh... ♪ unstopables in-wash scent booster ♪ downy unstopables ibut you're not alone. apart for a bit, we're automatically refunding our customers a portion of their personal auto premiums. learn more at libertymutual.com/covid-19. [ piano playing ]

when i get my teeth cleaned, my hsomething like this. she cleans with something like this. it's got a round head. and it's got power. go pro with oral-b. power one on for oral-b's best clean ever. inspired by dentists. oral-b's round brush head surrounds each tooth to remove more plaque along the gum line. for cleaner teeth and healthier gums. i'll only use the one that's round. oral-b. brush like a pro.

we are trying to cover all kinds of breaking news situations in all kinds of cities, from east to west, with the time zones across our country. ali velshi is in the city where this all started, where my friend ali took a rubber bullet round in the leg