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the president. >> i want to thank gene robinson and don meecham, derek hague and all the others who contributed to the broadcast. we are listening to applause from minneapolis. there is much more work to do. we're all in this together. that does tit for us. keep it here on msnbc. good evening. in tonight, america remains a nation in crisis. this is the scene right now as cities acrosses the country repair for another night of protests, and for the poss th y possibilities of violence. in many cities there are curfews, and in the nation's capital, it goes in evict as we speak. and a split screen a short time ago that is with crowds of
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protestors facing off against armed law enforcement officers just across the street from are the white house as the president addressed the country from the the rose garden. the president said that he invoked the insurrection act. that could allow him to deploy active duty u.s. troops to respond to cities across the country. and william barr took a walk through the protestors in lafayette park. right across the street from the the white house. he was booed as he walked through that area. this is coming on the heels of a week of intense protests over the death of george floit. most of those protests were peaceful. others did give way to violence. in washington, d.c., fires were lit and police clashed with propress tors despite a curfew. it's been exactly one week since george floyd was killed while in police custody in minneapolis.
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had a vigil at the site where he died. his brother issuing a moment of peace, saying violent protests will not bring his brother back. >> i understand you are upset. like it was said, i doubt you are half as upset as i am. so if i'm not over here blowing up stuff, if i'm not over here messing up my community what are you doing? let's switch it up, y'all. let's switch it up! do it peacefully, please. >> and tonight, as we mention, tens of millions of americans in cities across the country will be under a curfew. that includes minneapolis, new york city, philadelphia, los
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angeles and as we just mentioned, the nation's capital, washington, d.c. where the 7:00 p.m. curfew is now in effect. we begin tonight with craig melvin in washington. craig, a ton has happened in the city where you are right now. what can you tell us? . >> i will tell you the last ten minutes, we got word that the reason we saw chaos in the last 20 minutes is because they were forcing all protestors out of lafayette square across the street from the the white house. they did it quickly. we were standing there as flack bangs went off. smoke bombs used as well. the tear gas was used. we have just heard that the reason they were doing that -- you heard the president allude to that in a speech. he said he was going to pay his respects to some place special. he is going across the street to st. john's church. those who don't know this is known as the church of the presidents. it's very historic here in
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washington. built in 1816. since that time, all by one president has worshipped there. president trump has worshipped there as well. the church was vandalized as well. the basement was set ablaze. the nursery was destroyed. i spent time talking to the director of the church. the president going across the street to pay his respects. we will keep an eye on that. that is where he was headed after the rose garden speech. behind me, you can see the line of military police here in washington, d.c. they are in place right now because six minutes ago, the curfew went into e effect. one thing we are seeing tonight that we did not see last night, law enforcement moving quickly to force protestors and demonstrators away from lafayette park and the the white house, long before the curfew
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was set to go into effect, about 45 minutes ago, the flash bangs, the tear gas started to be used. i talked to the d.c. police chief maybe an hour and a half ago, and commissioner newsom told me they were going to be moving more aggressively tonight to prevent what we saw here in d.c. from happening again. as we saw previous nights. we saw looting, vandalism. but that was after we you an hours upon hours of peaceful protesting. the number of folks here in the last 20 or 30 minutes or so were taken aback by the tactics deployed in just the last hour or so. protestors kneeling across the street from the white house, all of a sudden, it would seem as from my vantage point, without much provocation, law enforcement began to advance quickly and right now, we are surprising that perhaps one of the reasons they were doing that was to make way for the
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president to e get across the street to st. john's. i'm going to move over here. i will show you what popped up here. this is i street and connecticut. another one of the pop-up marches if you will. again, at this point, as you can see here. largely peaceful. people are making their way through the streets of washington, d.c. chanting. as well as park police herselves continues to oversee all of on it. has been a steady helicopter presence in washington, d.c. for four or five days. the question now, people here are waiting and watch withing for us, as far as how far law enforcement is going to go to encourse that curfew, what point are they going to enforce that curfew. journalists are exempt from the curfew and essential medical
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personnel. >> the president's words. e he said the 7:00 p.m. curfew would be strictly enforced. very good question. thank you for that report. we will check back with you. stay safe there as well. and craig mentioned, the crowd cleared out there across the street from the white house. joining us now, nbc news digital seni seni senior correspondent. can you head anything? >> steve, really remarkable hour of events here at the white house. a few movements ago, the president walked behind me, flanked by aides and secret service agents, walked down to the gate, to the park, the site of the protests we have seen over the past several nights. moments before that, he was in the rose garden giving a speech at that the same time, you can
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hear the loud bangs going off. as police where craig is, were trying to clear the park. we suspect because the president was heading over there, the sound of explosion really rattling people on the white house grounds as the president was speaking and the constant drama of police hospitals in the background. and under lying this, the president's message from the rose garden, an crease in military force. this is not an address calling for calm. this is not an address calling for calm, and unity. this was a call from the president for added force. where he said that if cities and states do not increase the military presence, he will be sending in the military himself. that is something quite remarkable to hear a president say, he could send in the u.s. military to co-domestic policing
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in the united states. we know there has been a lot of back and forth in the white house about the president's tone in his message. but he has clearly come down on the side of a law and order president and the decision that the only solution in his mind to this unrest is going to be uncreased tactics by police and now the military. steve? >> let me make sure i'm clear on this. the president there was talking about potentially sending troops to stateses where in his view, he said -- we are just seeing now, they are live images of the president in front of st. john's church. is he speaking there? are we going to listen to this? it looks like he is just -- that is a photo opportunity, if he does start to speak, we will keep you posted. that is the president in front of st. john's church. we left the white house a few minutes ago after making remarking. protestors had been cleared across the street to make way.
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and there is the president in front of st. john's church. the victim of vandalism last night. i want to be clear. the question i started to pose. the president talking about sending troofs to states where he deems the governors are not acting safely. we are already seeing troops in washington, d.c. there are federal jurisdiction. what can you tell us about the scale of the deployment in washington, d.c.? >> right on the white house grounds, up west, executive drive, there was a truckload of national guard troops that rolled in the white house and moved over to the farc there lined up beyond the park police and the u.s. secret service. seeing troops in the full combat gear n their camo uniforms, lining there in the park. what the president, his exact quote, if states refuse to take action, he said then i will
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deploy the u.s. military and quickly solve the problem them. in a lot of instances, in the past, in a governor requests help, the governor sends in the national guard. he be do that if cities and states are not requesting it on their own. sending the military in state, and raising questions about state rights and really where the lines are going to fall. >> we continue to look at the images there, you see the attorney general has joined the president there, in front of st. john's church. shan shananon, thank you. i want to bring in garrett. with you there are there a couple minutes ago when that order was given to clear out protestors. take us through again, you are past the 7:00 p.m. occurer few.
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has it made a difference to the protestors? are the streets quieter now because of it? >> well, i think the streets are quiet wither now because of the mounted police and the tear gas. i want to be super clear about what did and didn't happen. nothing happened on the side the protestors were on. i was standing with the protestors. i have been with them by 2:00 this afternoon. it was by far the most peaceful day of protests we have had in d.c. since it started friday night. and then approximately 6:45, we e had mounted sfral police coming down h. street from east to west clearing people. they were using flash bangs, tear gas. i lost my regular mask and had to continue with her gas mask as we were pushed down h. street and down to pennsylvania avenue.
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i was listening to the president of the united states speak about law and order. i was watching people fall down as they ran. watching people get pushed aside by police forces and guardsmen carrying military police shields. i was about 150 to 200 yards from the grant gate of the white house when that was happening. that is what i experienced. that is what the tape showed. and i'm a little shook by the whole thing to be completely honest with you. it was absolutely an extraordinary thing to see and experience with the white house in my peripheral vision. >> just for the sake of understanding at home. we saw from craig a minute ago, protestors were continuing to march through the streets where he is. it's empty where you are. did you get a sense the protestors who were with you, did they continue to demonstrate elsewhere? do you get a sense they were dispersing and going home? what was to become of that
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group? >> it was completely scattered. we, as part of our protocol, when police are coming towards us, and protestors are on the other side of us, we try to take the side street. we turned off on a side street. i'm looking down the next couple blocks on pennsylvania avenue, all i see are police lights, not protestors. some of the preotestors that usd the exist, were purr pursued by officers in that direction. i'm west of the white house. i didn't have eyes on craig while he was on the air. i think he is on the east, knowing the direction he had been coming from. so it's possible when the mounted police came west to east, anybody who was behind could go out that way and might have continued. but the entire apparatus was aimed at clearing people east to west out this direction and i
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can confirm where i'm standing, we are very much cleared. >> and just one final the question,ing we mentioned the attorney general, william barr, was where you were, right before all you're describing happened. you did get a sense -- did he say anything? did he have any intersnaction. >> did you get a sense who his role was on the seen? >> it looked like a military parade are review. we saw the normal park police and secret service, supplemented by national guard and then by i believe active duty united states military. from the folks who understand the finer distinctions of uniforms so much better than i do. as they were e deploying and forming up in lines, the attorney general came out with mark short, i believe is now the vice president's chief of staff. he's had a number of roles in
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the administration, and they went up and down the lines. as best as i could see, they were talking to the national guardsmen, talking to commanders. they made no effort to engage with the protest toers and they made a colorful effort to engage with him. i don't think he came within 50 or 60 yards of the protest line. >> garrett, thank you for that. really appreciate you joining us and providing an update there. let's go north now from washington, d.c., to new york city. msnbc's senior correspondent chris jenson is there. what can you telling? you. >> i can tell you this crowd is e nors no
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enormous. they have been together and marches for 2 ha1/2 hours. i stood on a street corner for a good 40 minutes and people just kept coming by. when they got down into lawer manhattan or more around greenwich val greenwich village, there was an actual event where there were speakers and people decided to march north again. now they are marching north again. but there is a moment, as they are leaving washington square park,ing where we thought something might happen, very intense, a lot of chanting about police. i think you might have video of this. and the chanting was take a knee, take to knee toerks large numbers of police who were throughout, steve and one of the leaders of the police, one of the police officials, came over, shook hands with one of the black lives matters folks, and as the chanting continued, take
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a knee, take a knee, they took a knee. most of the people either shook their head, applauded or said yeah. others said they don't buy it. there is a lot of concern about the decision, later tonight, obviously the 11:00 curfew. but the announcement they are doubling the number of police officers on the street tonight to 8,000, steve. last night, there were some clashes we saw. police were the targets of a number of people throwing things, including garbage and bottles and also tactics that a lot of people thought were aggressive, using batons to push people. so you have a very diverse crowd in terms of their age, their ace, and their opinions about exactly what they think about what should be done here. i asked a few people about what
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was said by some officials today. about keeping the peace, one of the things the police official said was this is your town. what happened is not right. but these are your streets. don't let looters, don't let vandals come in and take the streets and that is one thing that most everyone i talked to agreed on. and i will say, in many areas where there was vandalism last night, there were local people who came in, who thelped to clen up and said this is not what we're with about. we're about action, we're about changing things. but we are continuing here in new york city, and it is a e e enormous crowd, strooef. >> chris jansen there. and we go from the east coast to the west coast. nbc news -- excuse me, gotti
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schwartz joining me. thank you for joining us. what can you tell us about what is going on there right now? >> reporter: yeah, we just saw something develop that is extremely tricky for everybody involved. for the protestors and police. we saw protestors that you're seeing here, they actually came up and this right there, that is the 405. they made their way on the onramp. they got on to the free way. they blocked traffic for some way. then we saw lapd and the highway patrol are, and they ordered them down on the ground. some of them complied. others started throwing a bottle -- they made some arrests over there. now there area is being swarmed. we saw the protestors that were able to bhak it out of there, about 100 or so, make it down here and they are caught in a stand off. you have officers on this side, of this stand off, you have
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officers that are starting to come in over here. i will just walk you down here. you have to be careful not to make any sudden movements here. you have emergency responders, firefighters and balancambulanc comes down this way and you have a line of officers that are now protecting the freeway and you have protesters that have made it there. and these are the the ones that are stuck here now in the stand off. one line of police and the other line of police. and as you can see, some of the green shotgun and canister dispersement. we have other officers that are coming up behind us. carlos, watch out. i be chill right here. this is what we are seeing behind us. they're going to start pushing us this way. we want to make sure they we
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identify ourselves as press. they are saying they need to head to southbound. and they have five minutes. now you are seeing the crowd moving. we're going to hug this area. on the sidewalk. and at this point, you've got probably about 100 officers thon side. you've got about 50 officers on this side and they have to entire area take a look. i will walk this way. i have a line of officers there's that line. all the way down protecting the 405 and these are the protestors that are working their way that way. what we're going to do, we're going cross the street here. we're going to cross the street and follow the strex directions of the officers. we have sirens coming in from down here.
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again, this whole entire area was quickly in a matter of four or five minutes swarmed by police officers. they are coming in from all directions and now the protestors really have no other choice. they can either engage the officers or they can head this way. so we're going to continue to walk with them here. i think i lost you. so we're -- we're trying to reaccomplir re-establish a connection. steve, you can still hear me okay? >> yes bought g, we got you. >> okay, we have helicopters all aa round. it's unclear where the 200 or 300 protestors went. it's unclear if it's going to be a mass arrest or if this possibly is going to -- if they are giving them an out to disperse. this is the direction they were
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told to head. they are stopping there. they are not going by protestors. we are going to come over here. and again, to was a situation where it was a very pearce peaceful protest. they protested two hours. respectful, peaceful in front of the federal building. we saw the national guard come by. we with saw the police come by. there wasn't friction. they took the 405 freeway and we will update you as soon as it changes. steve? >> thank you. we appreciate that. let's go back to the white house where really an extraordinary sequence of events has played out here in the last half hour or so. and shannon, when last we were speaking with you, the president had left the white house, a gathering of protestors across that street, had been across the street from the white house, had been cleared out. the president then left the white house, went to st. john's
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church nearby, which had been vandalized last night. now i understand he returned to the white house? >> yeah, in the past five or ten minutes, he again watch walked down the driveway with behind me, a group of reporters following him. returning from are the church. this was a photo op. he did not take questions from reporters. he made brief remarks. he said this is the greatest country in the world and we're going to keep it safe. but basically there at the church, where the basement caught fire. doing it as a sign of strength. but nothing more than a photo op. you know, reporters there said that the smell of gas, tear gas that was set off about less than a half hour before the president set there was still in the an air. they could -- it was still making them cough and you could smell the irritants. i can smell them now, and a
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constant the roar of sirens and helicopters. the president was able to hear. but one thing the president wasn't able to hear was any of protestors. because the police and the national guard had pushed them out of the park moments before the president made his walk over there. >> and shannon, quickly, i'm wondering have you been told anything from the white house? have you heard anything about from the administration, the president, his vow there when he made this announcement around 7:00, the curfew would be strictly strictly enforced. hos the white house told you plans to what he is referring to there? >> well, no, and that is really up to the d.c. police and the national guard who are now here in washington. and of course the d.c. police don't take orders from the president. the national guard does. and they also take orders from the governor.
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again, it's something that has any tangible, real world implications when he says the you c curfew. it's been after 7:00 p.m. for 26 minutes here. many senior staffers are still here. a lot of them did go home earlier in the day. but i just say maybe ten or 12 top aids. ivanka trump is here. mark meadows, a spokes person, and all of on us reporters are still here. that is allky tell you now about the curfew. >> okay, thank you for keeping us up to date what is going on. let turn now to john meecham, bring him in, just deuce to get your thoughts. what we watched play the out in the last 30, 35 minutes, the
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sequence of events, protestors across the white house, and huh protestors clear out, the president speaking, declaring himself a law and order president. he repeated it several times and walking to the clurnhurch for a photo opportunity. >> he is drawing on a vernacular of base management and p partisanship. he has clearly made a can decision that his chief obligation is to the people who are already inclined to support him strongly. there was no outreach in what he said to those who might disagree e with him. there was no sense that he was the president of an entire country. he's the president of his voters, his passionate voters in this. and for people who may think
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this is somehow reflexive criticism of the contract, this is data driven. the president of the united states came out -- in the midst of a national crisis. he made the statement he made. he signaled -- the most performative of ways, and none of that is to excuse the violence and the lawlessness, right in but it does help explain it. it's not as everybody woke up this week and say, you know, we're going to go loot and riot because we don't have anything else to do. it's reaction to events that are tied to the most fundamental question that has always confronted, shaped, contorted american life, which is the
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question of race. i don't have a simple answer. no one has a simple answer to this. we have been trying to work this out, people have been asked to be patient when they shouldn't be patient. people have been asked to compromise. people have been asked to live in fear when other folks have said, people who look like me and particularly from my native region, the south, have said, you know, be patient, wait. that's not sufficient. it wasn't sufficient 50 years ago. it wasn't sufficient 51 years ago when the country was in flames after the assassination of dr. king who was killed after delivering his last sunday sermon, not in st. john's church but at the national cathedral. it wasn't sufficient in 1965 or
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'64 or '67 or in 1619 when the first slaives were brought here. it's an immensely complicated question. another level, it's not. that is dr. king's great brilliance. and that is to say, simply, did america mean what it said when we said that we were founded on the idea that all men were created e equal. if we didn't mean it, we e e should stop pretending and acknowledge our hypocrisy. they are e enormously important questions and they occur again and again and again in the american experience. we need a president. we need a citizenry that is interested in exploring
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complexity. not one that is interested in brute shows of force in this --ly use the word. the president is drawing on a dictatorial vernacular. it's an e enormously tense moment, in the basing separation of laws and the solve veteranve the people. >> the president held a call with one of the governors today. one of the governors who was on the call will join us next. stay with us. world war two. many of their stories remain untold. find and honor the veterans in your family.
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president trump is threatening to send the military in american cities. governor j.b. pritzker joining me now. the president said he could deploy the military to u.s. states in the country if they do not dominate the streets f they don't provide enough force, he said i will deploy the u.s. military and quickly solve problem for them. you're a governor. what is your reaction to that? >> we reject that, and it's illegal. the fact that president trump is trying to change the subject. he is trying enflame passions on the street to veer away from his failures on coronavirus and what he ought to be doing, of course, is acting like a statesman. he ought to be standing up and talking ability the right of people to peacefully protest.
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think about what barack obama said when the protests were on ferguson. think about what robert f. kennedy said when president kennedy was killed. >> you're saying the president couldn't do that if he wanted to, to cities to states around the country. and he e dould that with the insurrection act. >> it requires that a governor asks the federal government to have federal forces bring in. we will cannot b doing that and i can't imagine any state will do that. >> you were on the phone call to the president today. a number of your fellow governors around the country. did that subject come up? sending military around the country? >> no. but the president spent 20 or 30 minutes on a crazy rant, frankly, talking about us needing to dominate the streets.
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the fact that is that many of us feel that the peaceful protestors have a real point to make. and something that needs to be heard. that black americans shouldn't be tsentenced to death for bein american. we have people dying like george floyd, like so many others we talk about on a regular basis, and people who -- because there hasn't been police accountability in many places, people are dying, and think about what that means to a black family, teenagers and young people who see what their future would look like and they know that they're not safe. so we have a lot of work to do. but right now, we have to bring down tensions across america and that's not what this president is doing. >> talk if you would about what is happening in your state, particularly the city of chicago, one of the nation's
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largest cities. there is a cure few in place, a number of arrests over the last several days. i understand you increased the call up of the national guard today. what is your hope there with that extra call up? >> well, let me start with the the fact that the vast majority of people protesting are protesting peacefully. they are trying to make a point and that point needs to be heard by elected officials. no doubt about it. but there are people causing mayhem. we have to separate those people. make sure they held accountable. violent behavior, trashing, damaging provide and public property, unacceptable. we are making sure we take care of those elements and make sure that people can protest thar their rights. >> when you see the national guard called up for something like this what does do it for you? you will certainly hear from folks who say that statement bringing the national guard out there, that perhaps that
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ratchets up tensions a little bit. so what does it accomplish to have the national guard in use for this? >> it was requested of us from the mayor of chicago and places around the state. may provide a support function. i agree with the nation they shouldn't be on the front lines but that support function is very fortunate. it allahs the manpower of the local police deponent do the job on the front lines. we have 300 of the state police out there helping, assisting where they are needed. we have a large force but again, it's all for support of local law enforcement and again to protect the protestors. >> again, i see 7:40 on the east coast. and 6:40 in illinois right now. what do you expect in chicago? >> there is a curfew that the
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mayor of chicago has called at 9:00. she has it each night. we are hoping that tensions can be brought down. we are hoping that clergy will step up and continue a call for calm in the city and across the state. look, we are bracing to make sure we can deal with elements that are trying to thwart the goals of the peaceful protestors. >> all right, govor pritzker, thank you, we are going to go to the west coast to a major city, that is opting not to the have a cu curfew. we will talk to the mayor of oakland, california, when we return. they may not be hydrated enough. wabba wabba!
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this. you have changed your mind and decided to implement one tonight. you can tell us your thinking? >> yeah, we did not make this decision lightly. we e recognize the historical context and the moment we're in right now where people are enraged about racism and the misuse of governmental authority. but we have to keep our community safe. and i a, as a mayor of oakland, i am in tremendous pain right now. over the death of george floyd, pain over the vandalism and looting of my beloved city and as we e look at the what the appropriate thing to do in the city is, as i work with my chief of police to assess the conditions and intelligence we have, the conditions have changed dramatically. friday night, we saw a huge
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protest, 8,000 people in our downtown. that was used as really a foil by people that were intent of doing damage and violence and then last night was extremely different. we had groups all over the city, vandalism, looting and in particularly neighborhoods that are the most impacted by the coronavirus. our neighborhoods in east oakland and the fruit bail where the african-american and the latino communities live and depend on the businesses. they were hit last night. and it was with very careful consideration we are imposing a curfew in oakland. it's pretty unprecedented for p us. >> you talked about what you are seeing inst l.a. night in particular. what is your sense of what it is that causes that, to go from
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what you're describes, being peaceful to then having a more violent element spill into it, do you have a sense what is happening that causing that? what accounting for it? >> listen, i think shut be said that there are two different things going on and let us not con pla conflate them. there is ang intergrief of yet another killing of a black man at the hands of police and this is within the context of the larger travesty of racism in america and there is a group that is taking advantage of this moment. to commit illegal acts, to do damage, to steal, to cause chaos. and we believe that those are two very different groups of people. >> and i believe, mayor, i'm going to tell the viewers what we are seeing on the screen.
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this is believe live footage now outside of the building anytime right now. had is midtown manhattan. this is 30 rock this is 50th or 49th street here. east 49th street. between 6th and fifth avenues, this is the fooge footage you're seeing right now and we are broadcasting, from inside the building you are e seeing on the right hand side of your screen. mayor, if you're still was, i want to ask what you expect tonight, what will enforcement look like and what do you expect the scene to look like in oakland tonight? >> let me be clear this is unprecedented from oakland. i am born and raised in my town and i don't ever have a memory of having a cure few in blase and right now, we are having a
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beautiful, peaceful, family demonstration in solidarity with george floyd and the quest for justice in your our country. it's going along beautifully but when 8:00 if they do not, we will arrest them that is what we believe is necessary under unprecedented conditions. remember, you know, we were the very first region in the country to shut down the economy to impose shelter-in-place, because of the coronavirus. our core small businesses are already suffering. we believe that these types of demonstrations are endangering public health. >> thank you very much. we appreciate that you are
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seeing scenes from around the country. this is los angeles, california. before 5:00 out there. that is den ve, are you seeing on your screen right now. we will bring in the police chief, he said his message to them on face book, i challenged our officers to ask themselves if they would have done anything differently from what the officers did in that video. if the answer is no, i told them to reconsider their career choice. >> thank you for joining us, appreciate it. what was the response you got to that message from your officers? >> this is a historic moment in policing in america. i am so hartened to know the st. paul police officers under my command overwhelming came out to support our community. they have made it perfectly
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clear, what occurred in minneapolis, at the hands of the officers, that resulted in the death of mr. floyd, is unacceptable. should not be tolerated, and has no place in policing in america today. it would have no place ever in the history of policing in america. i am disgusted by what happened. i can understand the anger throughout the country as a result of what has happened. but i am heartened to know, the police are joining with the protesters, the good one, today in st. paul, at the governor's mansion, we had officers, take a knee in respect. taking a moment to reflect on what happened with the protesters as a show of respect. >> the mayor has decided tonight
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to implement a curfew. she decided to reluctantly tonight. in minneapolis and st. paul, the governor of minnesota is keeping the curfew in place. reducing the length. feeling there has been success last night. minneapolis, things calming down? >> we had 63 businesses looted, 17 businesses, set on fire. we had a lot of people inserting themselves into good protest group, creating havoc throughout the city. that is an important distinction to understand. there are agitators coming in, and causing a lot of danger in our community. that is making it very challenging for our officers, in st. paul and throughout the country to differentiate the
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good versus the ones who want to come in and express anger and frustrations. >> we have heard about this from you and folks in local areas across the country. the idea of outside agitators, who are they in your case? >> well, when i say outside agitators, a few from outside the state we arrested. there are people from within our communities as well. who come in, insert themselves under the cloak of a peaceful protest. that is what is happening. they insert themselves into the situations, retreat back into good groups of people, that makes it challenging for our officers, our officers in st. paul have done a great job, under difficult circumstances, bringing order to a chaotic situation. from the st. paul. to new york city. chris, we checked in with her
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earlier, in front of 30 rock. we were showing scenes of protesters near where you are, right on the street where you are right now. that is the building that i am in right now. what can you tell us? >> so -- >> reporter: the peaceful protectors have been working for hours, there was a group of young american, stood in the building wre we are, the window of the nintendo store was shattered. police were standing there. the group of young men came running around. pushing people aside. i got pushed aside. when they saw that there was a group of police officers lined up along this side, across the street from what many who have ever been to new york know the skating rink, outside the today
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show, saw the barricades and starting to block things, trying to block people. yelling at the police. there were a few people who came in. we saw this earlier, once something was done like that people came in behind them. peaceful protesters, and tried to lift it up. they were told to let it be. you can see, there are people who work for rockefeller center, moving it out for people to come out. we have seen a heavy police presence, you get some of these few people, within the crowd, who start yelling things, try to insight them. clearly, trying to insight them. the police, by the nintendo store blocked it, and stood their quietly. no arrests made. here, the same thing. then, the huge group of police officers, standing here by 30 rockefeller center, we thought, where we have the today concerts, you get the huge
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crowds, all of that is blocked off. they continued down now. we will continue to find the pro -- we haven't seen people breaking off. i am only one part of the crowd, thousands of people, marching, virtually, in large circles around manhattan, fifth avenue, sixth avenue, through greenwitch village, since four, 5:00 this afternoon. >> how did you police respond? >> so, they have been very cool. it was the same situation i saw last night. isolated incidents last night. widely reported. police have to use batons, push people back, i notice that police n this particular case, when they were throwing things, when they were running through the crowd, looking very carefully, it seemed to me, to see, was there a situation that was dangerous. did they need to intervine.
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they just stood there. i have to say, there have been a few people who have gone up to police officer, and engaged them in -- how are you doing? we get a lot of people, the crowds are walking, who start cheering, honking their horns, don't seem to mind that they are blocked. it gets the crowd energized again. the police encounters we have seen have been peaceful. the police stood their ground, made sure nothing dangerous. here comes a group of the men, who seem to be following where the crowds are going. back to you. >> thank you for that. >> i want to go from new york city to minneapolis. morgan, i am sorry we are short on time. tell us what the scene is there where you are. >> reporter: three hours until this new curfew goes into
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effect. we know, several big groups had a chance to peacefully protest, and in neighboring st. paul, a group of 2000 were able to go out and march peacefully through the area. we have new numbers in, between yesterday and early this afternoon, 276 people were arrested for either violating laws in place or breaking that curfew, we know that curfew will remain in effect for the next several day, that large presence of national guard, combined with state police, that is the game changer, how they have been able to enforce the curfew, the first night it was issued, we continued to see vandalism and looting. a lot of people are hoping tonight mirrors last night. the first quiet one in some time
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here in minneapolis. >> stay with us, for all of the latest developments on the protests across the country. thank you for being with us for the past hour, "all in" with chris hayes is up next. >> america is in crisis, a pandemic rages, and the president of the united states is donald trump. tonight, obama assistant. and the modern policing. plus, the chief of police of houston texas, why he is walking with protesters and urging the president to shut his mouth. "all in" starts right now. >> i am chris hayes, there are millions of stories in america, there is one
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