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this is the first time that the state is launching a civil rights investigation into the systemic discriminatory practices of the largest police department in the state. >> that was minnesota governor tim walz a few hours ago. i'm chuck todd continuing this msnbc breaking news coverage of america in crisis. you are looking at live pictures from cities across this country as officials brace for yet another night of potential unrest. by our count, at least 28 major cities will be under a curfew tonight. that includes big cities like washington, new york, philadelphia, minneapolis, chicago, los angeles and many others. once again, tens of millions of americans are being told to stay home. not because of the virus but because of these curfews. we have expecting to hear from moxie washington, the mother of george floyd's office and she is expected to speak in minneapolis. we will bring you her comments when they begin. a new fence be has been
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installed following the incidents of last night when federal law enforcement fired gas, rubber bullets into crowds of tear gas that is rubber bullets into crowds of what appeared to be peaceful protesters before a curfew. u.s. park police does disagree with that construction there, to clear the way for this presidential photo op outside of a nearby church. the president was upset image of him bunkered in the white house bunker last week. the bible was used as an apparent prop was used as well has been denounced by sivecivil leaders. here it is live from last night on national tv and international tv. >> tear gas is moving through again! this is exactly what it looks like! exactly what it looks like. we are -- [ screaming ] >> whoa! >> now -- you see.
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>> look at the photographer. >> going on now. >> a member of the press. >> now just a lot of the violence erupting. >> the police decided to move forward and try to disperse the crowd with tear gas. >> using flash banks in front of them and mounted police to clear what is an entirely peaceful protest. not 90% not 99% but 100% of the protest here. >> those images are yet another indelible and dark moment for this presidency. alongside charlottesville and helsinki and ukraine moments prompted some to speak up. reaction from republican senators as gathered by my colleague speaks volumes. >> senator mcconnell, what the president did last night, was that the right thing to do? >> no response. >> what president did the peaceful protesters that were dispersed with tear gas and he
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walked across the street was that the right thing to do? >> i didn't really see it. >> what was the president did last night right? was what the president did last night that unfolded at the white house right? senator roberts what was the president did last night at the st. john's appropriate? was clearing the protesters an abuse of power? i'm sorry? >> i don't have any comment. >> i wasn't there so i didn't see exactly what happened. but, i mean, i think that he was just trying to make a point, so and it's hard in a polarized environment like this so. >> you don't have any comment on what happened at the white house last night? >> what? >> the gassing of the protesters. do they have a right? >> i didn't watch that. i don't know what happened. >> senator, are you concerned at all about what happened at the white house last night? >> i did not think that what we saw last night was [ inaudible ].
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>> senator portman, do you think what we saw last night at the white house -- >> i'm late for lunch. >> was it an abuse of power what we saw last night at the white house? >> by the protesters, yes. by the violence, yes. >> i've heard conflicting things about, well, the president, the park service, the secret service didn't know the president was coming through, so i don't know what the actual facts are. i think those would be useful things to find out. >> perhaps the biggest question after watching all of those clips is whether or not the country has the leadership right now to meet this moment. our nbc reporters are spread across the nation with the latest. garrett haake is across the white house from lafayette park. you heard his voice during last night's action. kat indica katy tur is in new york city and we will be joined from minneapolis with the investigation into floyd's death as it continues. let me start with garrett haake in washington. garrett, what are we expecting
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tonight? we saw fencing was put up. what are you seeing on the ground? >> reporter: chuck, there is another very large crowd here today. they have been here all afternoon. i would say probably a couple of thousand people here on the edges of lafayette square. the only major change from last night to tonight is the edition of that fence about nine feet of it protecting the edge of the park, itself. there is a alphabet soup of federal law enforcement agencies spread out, both in the park and in the surrounding streets and d.c. is, once again, under a 7:00 p.m. curfew tonight. we heard from the mayor of d.c. today who was very unhappy with how federal police removed protesters from the city of d.c.'s streets yesterday. it's unclear who will take that responsibility or what will happen tonight as we approach that curfew. i can tell you these folks have been out here all day. they have once again than extraordinarily peaceful and the ones i've been talking to aren't
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inclined to go anywhere, especially after what happened here yesterday. >> gaverrett, the issue of tear gas and park police insist it was not used. you were there on the ground. you believe you felt what you felt. >> yeah, look. chuck, you've played the tape. i stand by my reporting. i've been in situations where i've been hit by smoke before and where i've been hit by pepper spray before. i think i know the difference on the edge of 17th and connecticut avenue on the edge of this park, i, other journalists had to put on gas masks and wash our eyes out afterwards and all felt something significantly different. i don't know to tell you about the park police statement. i stand by what i reported last night and by what that video shows. >> garrett haake, stay as safe as you can today and tonight. good reporting. thank you.
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katy tur, i would like you to address what we discussed earlier today, the governor not happy with the mayor of new york city and how things were handled. what is the mayor's response for denial? >> reporter: so the mayor and the nypd both say they did a good job, that they are able to control these crowds, that they are able to protect this city and the businesses in this city. they maintain that the people looting last night will be charged with crimes that they are criminals but, again, governor cuomo earlier today said that he did not think the nypd did a good job. he did not think the mayor was doing a good job. he openly mused, chuck, about his ability, his authority that he said he had to remove the mayor and then left it at that. here is what the nypd say they expect for tonight and here is
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who they think is the problem. it's not these protesters here, these tens of thousands of protesters who have taken to the streets. they say after curfew, after nightfall is when outside groups come in and outside agitators the police call them, anarchists who are coordinated and using encrypted applications to cord nate their places outside the city. they made 700 arrests last night and preparing for post curfew. i've been with building crowd since on the air today starting at 1:00 p.m. it has grown so much. i have never seen anything like this in new york city and i've been reporting here since 2006. it's not that long of a time, but, you know, i have seen tragedy, i have seen police controversy, i have seen the city go through things, and i've
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never seen a crowd like this gather and then walk for this long. there is no end in sight. there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or a reason for where we are going. we have just been walking, but there is, again, a curfew at 8:00 p.m. tonight. a curfew tonight and through sunday. on monday, the city reopens. i asked some of protesters if they are going to home and abide by the curfew. and they said, yes, some might but a lot of us are going to keep marching because they think their message is important. and they need to be out here agitating and they need to be out here making people uncomfortable so that george floyd, that doesn't happen again. so trayvon martin not quite the same example but we are hearing his name a lot, so brea breanon
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taylor don't happen again and we start to fix it in this country. i don't know where we are going but i'm going to keep on walking. >> kudos to your crew who is doing everything and doing it backwards at times so don't think some of us don't note that as well. good work there. let me go down to houston. thank you, katy. let's go to houston where priscilla thompson is there. you just participated in a protest that essentially features george floyd's family. this is his hometown. >> reporter: that's right, chuck. the streets right now are ringing with george floyd's name here in downtown houston. there are tens of thousands of people who are still marching down the street. they came from a park downtown and are heading to city hall which around us. the city around it is packed. it's clear the crowds will spill onto the streets and may not be able to hear the speakers. the family is here. the police chief, the fire
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chief, a number of local leaders, the mayor. they may not be able to hear those speeches but they certainly wanted to make sure their presence here was felt. i will tell you one thing that i have been struck by here is the amount of women who are pregnant that i've seen walking in this rally today and the signs that i've seen that don't just have the picture of george floyd on them, but the picture of other people's family members and saying, you know, it's is my husband going to be next? is my son going to be next? you feel a sense this is far bigger than just george floyd but a system that folks want to see change and, of course, everyone here from city leaders to the folks who organize us and the protesters have urged peaceful protest is what they want to do toos. today. one of the organizers said people are leaving bricks on the block and that is not tolerated here and if folks in the crowds see someone inciting some sort of violence to stop them and let
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them know this is not what this is about. it's about peace as the family is about to welcome the body back here for the funeral services on monday and tuesday. >> priscilla thompson in houston, there is a public viewing on monday and a private service on tuesday where former vice president joe biden will attend that. let's go to minneapolis where shaquille brewster is there. shaq, we have a lot of investigation developments. the announcement by the governor and the overall investigation of the minneapolis police department. we have heard some updates on the other three officers on potential there. you got the baton. fill us in on both of them. >> reporter: let's start with the governor's announcement, chuck. that civil rights charge against the minneapolis police department. going back several years. not just with this case but looking at what they system systemic discriminatory practices. the governor said they will look at cases from the past ten years and look he at the partners and
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practices of the minneapolis police department. when the governor made this announcement, he thanked protesters for bringing this to forefront. this is a protest going on right now. an interfaith vigil in st. paul. you've been seeing protests, peaceful protests happening all across the twin cities. there is even, for example, the st. paul police chief who has joined this protest that has marched from one location down to the target where this was a scene where we saw some looting a couple of days ago. not only do you see protests here but you continue to see protests at the site where george floyd was killed. you see 2,000, 3,000 protesters at the state capital. those protests continue to happen. as we talked about the investigation there is also the family and what the family has said, the family attorney saying that he expects to hear charges for those remaining three officers involved in george floyd's death. they are expecting those charges to come by tuesday. we know tuesday is the day that george floyd will be laid to rest. he is expecting to see charges against those officers by tuesday. no word from the official side
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if we can expect that but that is what the family attorney is saying he is expecting. chuck? >> shaquille brewster on the ground. let me get your date line correct. you're in st. paul. you were in minneapolis earlier. you have been all over both of the twin cities. thank you to all of my colleagues putting themselves on the line and covering these protests. safe to all of you out there. joining me is the mayor of oakland, california, libby shaft. tell me the situation and what are your concerns about this evening? >> chuck, we are in a lot of pain, pain over institutionalized racism and the state-sponsored killing of george floyd, and also pain over the devastation, the vandalism, the looting of our beloved city. it's a tremendous amount of
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pain. on top of the global pandemic that is hurting the same comuptcomupt communities black and brown communities affected by covid-19 are suffering especially in this moment. >> i'm curious. your law enforcement offices, are they getting -- we are hearing in other cities that there is more and more thought that this is some sort of might be just simply low level organized crime, that the so-called looters are actually, they seem to be on a mission and they are basically just stealing stuff they may try to resell later. what is your law enforcement telling you who the vandals are because they don't appear to be the protesters. >> absolutely not. we are very clear. these are two different groups of people. in oakland, we celebrate protests. we are a city that is passionate
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about racial justice, social justice. our replied facilitates and supports peaceful demonstrations all the time. we had a beautiful march yesterday with 15,000 families organized by two youth, and this was absolutely supported by police. i don't know if you saw the footage of an entire line of oakland police officers in their riot gear taking a knee in solidarity with demonstrators. but the people that are doing vandalism are an entirely different group. they are the agitators that are exploiting the community's pain right now. and hiding themselves in these large crowds. then there are just literally caravans of thieves that are going out looting in a very targeted and intentional way all over the city. it's been a real law enforcement
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challenge and that is why we took the extraordinary and very difficult step yesterday of actually imposing a curfew in oakland, california. i did not think i would ever see that day, especially right now when we recognize that the whole country is protesting over the abuse of governmental power and certainly curfews have a history of being a tool of government oppression and racism. >> madam mayor, i'm curious. look. there is a lot of action that needs to be done on a national level. a lot of action that needs to be done in society when it comes to this. some of these things we can't legislate and you need to educate. but what are you thinking about in the city of oakland? are there new proposals, new policies you're thinking about in response to these protests? thinking i thought we were doing this right but it turns out we
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need to do more of x? i'm curious if that is the case, what is x in your mind? >> you know, we are going to lift up some of the work that we have already begun. we are unique in that in oakland, we not only have a chief of police, we have a chief of violence prevention. they are equals. they carry that same title. we also have a department of race and equity. we think it's very important to name race and to talk about the history of racism in america and how it's not just an individual affliction. it is baked into our systems and institutions and that is why it requires policy change. we are, right now, looking at our covid-19 pandemic through a race equity lens. and that is the work that must be done much more quickly, which is to disaggregate all of our
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data by race to identify these horrid disparities and to recognize that we can't just be held for good intentions or efforts but look at those outcomes and stop those disparities. >> thank you for coming on letting us know what is happening in your city, oakland, california. let's hope it's a safe and uneventful night on that front. >> thank you. >> good luck. the head of the black caucus joins me next on the protest, the president, and the sound of silence from many republicans. and right now, is a time for action. so, for a second time we're giving members a credit on their auto insurance. because it's the right thing to do. we're also giving payment relief options to eligible members so they can take care of things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. right now is the time to take care of what matters most. like we've done together, so many times before.
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some of that change that people are calling out for. >> welcome back. house speaker nancy pelosi holding a bible and urging president trump to change course and be the nation's healer in chief. joining me now, is democratic congresswoman from california karen bass. congresswoman, that was speaker pelosi. i think majority leader steny hoyer said would make the lead and this piece of legislation, is it going to be sort of piece-by-piece, about right at police -- you know, sort of the police brutality issue first, choke-hold, things like that, or do you try to do something big and broad early? >> well, i think we really need to do a combination of both. i mean, frankly, if we go
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straight to the police issues, there's so many of them that are there in terms of police accountability and communities being able to hold police accountable. let me just throw out one, for example. there needs to be a national database. it shouldn't work that you could be a police officer like the one that killed george floyd, get fired, and then drive five or ten miles east or west and get another job. there needs to be a national database. we need to be able to prosecute police officers for a police officer to say, well, i was in fear of my life and why i killed the person even though i shot them in the back while they were running away from me, that is really not acceptable. i think first and foremost, is deal with the police accountability issues. then we have a variety of other contributing factors that need to be dealt with as well. >> how much -- look. you've got -- i'm sure you have a big broad list of reform ideas and then you have what can be realistically done with this
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president. so how much does that go into your thinking about, you know, perhaps there is a consensus on some police reforms you can get done right now. that is something to attempt to do. but do you feel limited about what you can do and are you going to tactically think about that, considering the person that's in the white house? >> you know in the best-case scenario, it would always be a bipartisan bill that we know that there is support from the white house. now, we are hearing some feelers that the white house might be interested in one policy or another. we have to see clarity on that. but all of us know that the inconsistencies out of the white house, we can't legislate by how the president feels on any given day. we have to move forward with what is the right thing to do, what is the solution that gets at this, because how many more times can our country be put through this? three people in the last just
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few months and what is ahead of us over the summer? >> yeah. i'm curious. it's funny you think that up. because i look at it -- i feel like you guys have to figure out how to meet this moment in congress. >> right. >> the danger of not meeting the moment, what is that particularly for the african-american community? what is your fear? >> well, first of all, i think it is absolutely critical that every step of the way, we make sure that the black community and other communities understand what we are doing while we are doing it. and then even more important is to get people involved in a constructive way so there is part of the protests that we are watching that i think is absolutely inspiring, the fact that it is an absolutely rainbow. you could look at some cities and it's even hard to find an african-american that is protesting. all of that support and solidarity i think is really important but that needs to be a part of the outside pressure on
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my republican colleagues, as well as the white house. it's not going to be dealt with if everything is dealt with inside the capitol. there has to be a strategy inside to rally our colleagues, but also outside. and what i am hoping with all of those thousands of protesters that are around the country, i'm sure many of them are represented by republican members of congress. they make their voices heard and that people understand this is a moral moment. this is a moral opportunity for us to say, as a country, we can't stand for these kind of human rights abuses. you know, even the united nations is commenting on what happens to mr. floyd. >> yeah. before i let you go, congresswoman, the president put out a tweet today that -- to make a case that he has been -- let me read the tweet. quote.
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then he adds and the best is yet to come. is there any part of that tweet you believe is accurate? >> no! if i had the rest of your show, i could tell you all of the policies that he has done that have hurt the black community. and so for him to do that, it's just always so insulting. i don't understand why he doesn't have people on his staff that can help him communicate in a way that has some measure of empathy, that has some measure of accuracy. you know, the fact that the black unemployment rate was down because he inherited the economy that obama put back together. he couldn't name one program that he developed that had anything to do with loring the unemployment rate to african-americans. and so it's that type of insulting language that has to stop if he is ever to garner any kind of respect from the
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african-american community. leave us alone! >> karen bass, chair of the congressional black caucus, you are taking the lead now on what all of this reform is going to look like. are you guys going to come back before june 30th to start working on this? >> yes yes yes. as a matter of fact we are back next week. we have a hearing in judiciary and the congressional black caucus will be on the hill next week doing our own briefing. >> all right. congresswoman karen bass, thanks for coming on and sharing your perspective for us. it's very much appreciated. >> thank you for having me on. let me turn to my nbc colleague who is in philadelphia where the protest there is starting to gather and get larger. what are you seeing? >> reporter: chuck, we have been following this protest throughout the course of the day and it's kind of grown and swelled and deed down a little bit. certainly now it's starting to get a little bit more momentum. we are in the center city. really the most iconic part of philadelphia outside of city hall where joe biden delivered his speech today.
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you could see is there a police presence not too far away from where we are standing along with the national guard. a peaceful protest and doesn't get more peaceful than this. we have been following it throughout the day. some of the people are leading the crowd in chants black lives matter, no peace, no justice and demanding accountability and saying the name of george floyd and breonna taylor and other black americans killed because of police violence and police brutality. the police have been escorting this protest for the most part as it's been going on on several hours. we joined it after the vice president completed his speech and it is still going on. today the curfew was supposed to be 6:00 p.m. it is primary day so that extension has been granted and we expect that curfew to begin at 8:30 as the polls begin to close in pennsylvania and across pennsylvania. for the most part, a very peaceful situation. now it's always in moments like this that the crowd as you can
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see as it gets larger with the numbers that it becomes more of a challenge for law enforcement. the helicopters have been flying above overhead all day keeping an eye on everything. but for the most part, there has been absolutely no confrontation with the police. the crowd here, very peaceful. multiracial. multigenerational. i keep saying that over and over but we have seen all kinds of people out here today, chuck. all of this as we mentioned against the backdrop of the former vice president using city hall today to deliver his important speech. >> we are about to delve right into that so thank you for that report. you are the one on-site there. in fact, just that. you might as well have done our segway for us. it was former vice president joe biden today giving a speech inside city hall. take a listen. >> we can't leave this moment thinking that we can once again turn away and do nothing. you can't do that this time. we just can't.
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the moment has come for our nation to deal with systemic racism, to deal with a growing economic and inequity that exists in our nation. to deal with the denial of the promise of this nation, made to so many. >> joining me now, is a professor of the director of study of race and democracy at the university of texas-austin and author of "the sword and the shield." revolutionary lives of malcolm x and martin luther king jr. professor joseph, you wrote a piece in "the boston globe" that says a moment like this is a moment that you want to see be a spark for progress and change. how can that come to fruition in your mind? >> i think that this is a
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national racial crisis, chuck. but i think it's a crisis that has more to do than with just the criminal justice system. we have a generational opportunity to transform not just racism and white supremacy in the criminal justice system, but the way in which the criminal justice system serves as a gateway, the panoramic systems of oppression, whether we are talking about housing, whether we are talking about public schools, whether we are talking about racial segregation in public schools and neighborhoods. topics that we refuse to talk about. in addition to wealth and inequality, and in addition to unemployment and in addition to so many black and brown young women and men having suffered physical assault, trauma at times death at the hands of the police. i think that all of us, the protests we are seeing in the street, this is about reimagining american democracy. i think that makes me hopeful. that we have the capacity to be the greatest country on the face of the earth.
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when martin luther king jr. wrote a letter from birmingham jail in 1963. he said the protests happening in birmingham were bringing the nation back to the great welds of democracy that were done deep by the founding fathers. we can make king's dream of a beloved community come alive in our time and it's not just the federal government. it's not about one election and it's not just about the president of the united states. this is about local communities coming together and digging deep, pwe have the policies we know we can change. we can achieve blank citizenship in our lifetime. a work of generation but we can achieve it in our lifetime. the protesters at their best is giving all of us new hope and inspiration that we can transform american democracy and live up to the dream of the beloved community that martin luther king jr. articulated. >> donna edwards, i hate the
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overused phrase the perfect storm. however, there is part of me that wonders is this -- can this be the galvanizing moment? because, in some ways, the combination of how the pandemic has shown us what -- in inequality does, right? the impact of inequality on human lives both on health outcome and economic outcome. then the police brutality issue gets thrown back into this on top of this and it's almost like a sledge hammer for american leadership. like you can't ignore this now. >> yeah, well, i think this is an important moment when all of this has been placed front and center for the american people and, you know, because we have been going through this pandemic, so many people, millions of people out of work, people at home riveted to their televisions, able to actually go out on the streets and participate in these peaceful
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protests, it's also a moment where there is kind of opportunity of the american people and to galvanize people and focus us. i was listening to the professor and listening to the hopefulness there. i want to be hopeful too because i think it would be bad to wallow in despair. but it's a challenging moment. so it was refreshing to hear somebody who would be president of the united states echo the words as a white man about the need to tackle systemic racism. >> i'm with you on the professor. it was nice to hear. we have been hearing a lot of neglect and it was nice to hear positive. donna edwards, i want to ask awe blunt question. do we have the political leadership to meet this moment right now? >> i don't know. i mean, it's really troubling on the republican side to hear almost crickets about these multiracial, multigenerational
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peaceful protests that are going on around the country. in their congressional districts and in their states, but to hear silence and to see a president of the united states who definitely is not up to this moment. but it doesn't mean that the american people are not up to the moment and so i remain confident that that can happen and i think that there are a lot of levers that the congress has that it can use in terms of its appropriating powers and others to begin to exccompel some of te policy levels that are being made at the state and local level. >> professor, you wrote a book on martin luther king and malcolm x. i'm curious how you view the protest movement of the late '60s and what we are seeing today. and what do you think malcolm x and mlk would be saying about today's protests? would they have different messages?
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>> well, i think that malcolm x's message of radical black dignity and king's message of radical black citizenship converged over time. you needed that dignity and self-determination but you also needed citizenship and to transform racist policies into policies that were just. when think about them in our own time, we sort of use dr. king to talk about nonviolence and try to smear those who looted but dr. king said the problem in the '60s were not looting but the conditions that caused this uprising. king was this important figure who was also interested in ending poverty, he was interested in a universal basic income. he is really a political revolutionary alongside malcolm x. malcolm x spoke about the truth of power and he was the biggest critic of racial injustice in the mid 20th century who also told black people that the
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answer to their problems was actually defining their problems for themselves. that radical self-determination. one of the things we had in the 1960s wayne president lyndon johnson and president john f. kennedy. president kennedy's speech is where we are today. on june 11th he is talking about all of the protests happening around the country for racial justice and what the president says is that these protests are a revolution that might be violent or peaceful. and he says those who ignore these revolutions are inviting violence as well as shame and those who act boldly recognize right as well as reality. we can act boldly right here and we can act boldly and we have a generational opportunity not just at the federal level, but at the local level. the city i'm in in austin, people are getting together from all walks of life to try to transform this situation and to really set up a situation in the
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united states where we finally eradicate white streamupremacy not have the urban rebellion ever again. >> thank you both for your perspectives on this. i think that the biggest -- you can't ignore the fact this is so multiracial that we watch in these protests, that matters a lot, compared to the pictures we saw back in the late '60s. up ahead as many americans reel, they are also voting. primaries are being held amidst a crisis and a pandemic. >> i feel like it's not just the protest. like we are all protesting and that helps to change the mindset which is the first step. but after that step, then what? where are the lawyers? where are the politicians? where are our senators, our coning men and women? when are they telling us what to do next and where are they giving us the step-by-step? - i'm norm.
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this -- this was a good man. >> it really don't make no sense. we all saying it. plain as day. y'all in here with cameras for a reason so record what is here so you can have it for later so you can have proof of what happened today, right? am i right or wrong? so you is can footage of what happened today, right?
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and when you -- when you post that footage on your news station or whatever, you expect people to believe what you're posting and what your video was real, right? am i right or wrong? correct. why is it not that simple when somebody is getting avoided and getting murdered? why is it not that simple? why do you have to see her pain? why do we have to see a daughter getting raised without her father? but you know what? a lot of stuff you said that he is going to miss that i'll be there for. i'm going to walk her down the aisle. i'll be there for her. i'll be here to wipe your tears. you see what i'm saying? i'll be here for you and gigi. george might not be here but we will get justice for my brother. we not leaving. we going to keep fighting. we going to put my brother -- we going to send him home and in beautiful ways this week. but i'm telling you, we are not leaving. we demand justice and i'm tired of seeing that. i'm not going to see her hurt every day like this. we need justice.
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we demand it and some kind way we going to get it. thank you all for coming. but this has to stop. it has to stop. >> you know, we literally flew up here from atlanta where, today, the district attorney indicted six officers who were involved in beating those chej students and tasering them. the district attorney, the mayor, and our chief of police took action in under a week. fired and indicted. but, yet, here, we are still waiting for the arrest of the other officers. why can't that be a blueprint of what should happen in these officer-involved situations? the pictures last forever. but justice never truly comes in this and time and time again we are fighting these cases. everybody at home is wondering why riots are happening and why
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protesting is happening. it is because situations like this do not get addressed. no one is saying that every police officer out there is out to try to kill somebody. but when somebody does do something, when someone crosses the line, they have to go through the system and be held accountable. how is that not fair? and it always has to happen to african-americans. and the end result is this. and it's a circle because then it's against a young african-american child when they don't have a parent. when they don't have a father. now we are somehow less than equal because we are missing that dad. this is going to be the reason that gianna is missing that dad. through no fault of her own, through no fault of his. so this helps that cycle. and it has to end. we plan on fighting until the end to make sure that that happens even with new policies
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being instituted, with the investigation that was announced today. we hope to see further steps so that this never happens again. >> with that, we will take a few questions. >> and very few. [ inaudible question ] >> he was a good man as a father. he was so happy to have her. he was there. he slept the whole time that i went through labor, but when he heard her cry, he got up. he woke up and i still have a picture of him waking up getting
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his baby. he loved her. he loved her so much. >> one last question. >> can you tell us a little bit about -- [ inaudible ]. >> to work. seek work. job opportunity. [ inaudible question ] >> yeah. yeah. he was. he was. [ inaudible question ] >> of course, he was. he still took care of us. he lived. we still had that connection, you know? and he still took care of us. he provided for us. he living here, working. >> that was the main reason. when he called me, his whole reason coming was to get here and get away from texas so he can come and provide for his
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family, be a better father, be a better provider. his whole reason for being in minnesota was to work and drive trucks. that's why he came here and he was doing that. he was doing great here. he was turning the curve and then this happened. so he was doing his so he was doing his part. >> so we hope you all see the human side of george and not just pictures and videos on the internet, and that he has a legacy, a beautiful legacy that no matter how rough and chaotic the world looks right now, this beautiful little girl is going to have a bright future. >> yes, indeed. >> like i said, we're going to guarantee that, make sure everybody is held accountable and making sure that our future is brighter. now associate this beautiful little face when y'all think of that memory. when you see images or some outlets trying to bring things to destroy a man's name you think of this every single time.
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>> y'all should notice this is the first i have. this is my brother's 6-year-old daughter. i have a daughter. this is my trust station. you want to know why i'm here, why i'm standing, why i'm here? my brother is going to have to live without him. look at the tears from roxie. this is why i'm here. i'm through crying. i'm ready to fight. i'm ready to get justice for my brother. that's why i'm here. don't ask me that no more. >> thank you. >> those were george floyd's family, friends, and the attorney for the family as well. not much to say. we'll be right back. it's the 6:10 woke-up-like-this migraine medicine. the 3:40 mid-shift migraine medicine. introducing ubrelvy™. it's the migraine medicine for anytime, anywhere a migraine attacks without worrying if it's too late or where you happen to be. one dose of ubrelvy™ can quickly stop a migraine in its tracks within two hours.
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welcome back. consider this. just after 3:00 yesterday afternoon, george will's newest column for "the washington post" started circulating. and it got a lot of people talking. and it will. not only calls for president trump's removal, but also the ouster of his supporters in congress. in fact, will wrote the following. "there is no such thing as rock bottom so, assume that the worst is yet to come." it was little more than three hours after that was posted online that federal authorities used smoke bombs and flash-bangs to clear the protest that was taking part at lafayette park. hold george will joins me now.
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since you sat down preparing to the this hit, mike mullen, who you know i think very well the former chair of the joint chiefs, basically said he couldn't remain silent anymore. and he writes this. i have to date been reticent to speak out surrounding president trump's leadership, but we are at a reflection point and the events of the past weeks have made it impossible to remain silent. he said yesterday there was little good that came of that stunt. george? >> well, as i did say in my column, just when you think a nadir has been reached you are wrong. if the urban rest for to continue, it's the only thing that i can imagine that would resecure the reelection of the president. assuming that it does die down, which i think is a safe assume, another safe assumption is that the president is going to continue doing what he is doing,
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only worse. there is a downward spiral, and no one should take pleasure from this, regardless of their political convictions because by now it is simply frightening. we have a man with nuclear weapons who seems to be coming undone in some ways. and for that reason, we have to be very wary. what i said about the republican party is this, and this, chuck, is the great staring fact. 2016, people faced with two candidates they didn't like, opted for the one they knew least, and that was mr. trump. 3 3/4 years later, the fact is that 90% of the republican party approves of his conduct. 90%. the republican party has never beenunited in the 20th century, not since it was founded in 1854. it was divided between teddy roosevelt and the taft republicans in 1912, between
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duey and the taft republicans in the 1940s, between goldwater and rockefeller republicans in the 1960s. today it is united party, and it's united around someone unfit to lead that is a sobering thought. >> i just -- you call it sobering. how does -- how do we fix this? i mean, what does it take inside? is it a new party? a new conservative party? >> no, it's what you do is you give as a disobedient child is, you give them a time-out. you give them time to reflect on the cost of suspending their judgment and suspending their principles and convictions and turning themselves into a cult of personality. which is why i think a very thorough rejection of the party top to bottom in the elections will cause them to pause and think, it is worth it? what am i gaining from this
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acquiescence in a man that no one in -- no congressional republican to speak of has any affection for the president. this is all fear, fear grounded in the 90% and the fact that the party is his party and it is unshakeable in its allegiance, the party base. >> george, i'm sure you've had this -- i'm curious. i'm sure you've had this conversation with multiple republicans. if they would link arms here, they could make a difference. >> well, backward reels the mind to august 1974 when barry goldwater and johnny rhodes, both from arizona, one in the house, barry in the senate, and hugh scott went to the white house and said the republican party in effect is giving you a vote of no confidence. you just go. it could be done, but it will not be done. i've had spirited conversations
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with some of my republican friends about this column, and i tell you that that's not going to happen. >> interesting. well, that doesn't mean you're not on the record, and that doesn't mean they may not read it and say something to you down the road when they read it with a different set of eyes. anyway, george will, thanks for coming on and explaining your perspective for us. and that's all i have for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." "the beat with ari melber" starts right now. good evening, ari. >> chuck, good evening. i was watching your hour, some of what you're covering is just striking. so thanks to chuck todd. thanks to everyone who has been working during this time. welcome to "the beat." i am ari melber. tonight here we are again. for the eighth consecutive night, massive protests and marches. you see them right here across america live in cities large and small. and many places where curfews are again looming tonight. mayors and governors struggling to respect free speech and protest rights by day while also deploying these lawful rules to
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