tv First Look MSNBC June 3, 2020 2:00am-3:00am PDT
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another day of unrest across the country in the wake of george floyd's death and some are struggling to respond to reaction to peaceful protesters outside of the white house. some are criticizing his photo op outside of that church while others are dodging questions. and as president trump keeping up his divisive rhetoric, joe biden is offering a clear contrast, saying he refuses to fan the flames of hate.
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good wednesday morning, everybody. it's june 3rd. i'm yasmin vossoughian. a lot to cover in the last 24 hours. we're going to begin with the nation's protests that show no signs of letting up. curfews are keeping protesters from taking to the streets well into the night. including lafayette square right near the white house where force was used the day before to clear the president's way to st. john's church for that now infamous photo op. protesters defied curfews all throughout the country. this is video from los angeles last night where at least 100 protesters who appeared to be peaceful were arrested for violating the 6:00 p.m. curfew. there are also protests of looting but nothing like the previous days. this shows looters breaking into a pharmacy, while peaceful protesters were gathering just around the corner. and we're also seeing tense protests outside of eric garcetti's home as well overnight. more than 1,000 people gather
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there. garcetti appeared at a protest in downtown los angeles where he kneeled in the middle of a prayer circle. meanwhile, mayor bill de blasio says moving the curfew from 11:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. helped curb some of the vandalism in the city. but protesters also defied the curfew, house to marching across the manhattan bridge from brooklyn but were blocked from manhattan by a large police presence, and eventually turn third back peacefully. we're also learning now details about what went on behind the scenes before police officers and the national guard forcefully cleared peaceful protesters from outside of the white house on monday for that photo op. that president trump could stage a visit to that church. several doj law enforcement administration formers telling nbc news a decision was made late sunday or early monday that the perimeter around the park,
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lafayette park to be specific, across from the white house, should be expanded. monday night, we saw attorney general bill barr surveying the park, apparently to see what progress has been made pap it was either on his way there or after he arrived but he was told the president was planning to, quote, take a walk. and barr told some commanders that they needed to finish moving the perimeter back. now, police starts firing flashbang shells as we saw. and pushing people back in the park about 25 minutes before barr was actually seen there. one law enforcement official telling nbc the decision to move people back was made in part because police were being hit with frozen water bottles and bricks and because a cache of weapons was found. "the washington post" is reporting that president trump telling senior advisers on monday that they had to show that they could control the streets of washington around around the white house. that is according to two people
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familiar with the president's comments. trump said if they did not it would send a bad signal to the rest of the country and they would look weak. quote, you can't have a burning church near the white house was the president's message. garrett haake was back at lafayette park last night and has the latest. garrett. >> reporter: yasmin, a long day of protesting at the white house on tuesday with protest groups staying late into the night outside of the white house in defiance of a 7:00 p.m. curfew. and long defiance, in some cases. the president's clearing of this park and street and visit to the st. john church simply galvanized parts of d.c. that had not otherwise engaged in these protests. a lot of folks telling me it was their first time out tonight. as for the federal response, it has stayed largely behind this nancy was installed overnight on monday. protesters were largely left
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free to move about the city. not significant police action. not significant rioting or looting or anything that we had seen earlier in the week on washington, d.c. hopefully a harbinger of peaceful protests for the rest of the week. yasmin. >> thank you for garrett haake for that report. speaking on capitol hill yesterday, house speaker nancy pelosi reacting to the many protests that have ravaged the u.s. following the death of george floyd. and reflecting on the lessons in the bible. >> with the bible, i was thinking of so many things in the bible that would have been appropriate in terms of the humanity of all people in that country. and i was thinking about time. you know, time is such a most important commodity. a most important commodity. the most finite of all commodities. the time it takes to make the
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change necessary. and it's long overdue time for to us make some of that change that people are calling out for. >> so, the speaker will join us later on "morning joe," you don't want to miss that interview. also presumptive democratic nominee joe biden deliver a passionate speech yesterday, sailing police brutality. >> the country is crying out for leadership. leadership that brings us together. leadership that can recognize pain and deep grief in communities that have had a knee on their neck for a long time. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. george floyd's last words, but they didn't die with him. they're still being heard, all across this nation. i can't lead this moment, i
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can't leave this moment thinking that we can once again turn away and do nothing. can't do that this time. just can't. the moment has come for our nation to deal with systemic racism. to grow with the economic inequity that exists in our nation. to deal with the denial of the promise of this nation. made to so many. you know, we're a nation in pain. we must not let our pain destroy us. we're a nation enraged, but we cannot let our rage consume us. we're a nation that's exhausted. but we will not allow our exhaustion defeat us. as president, it's my commitment to all of you to lead on these issues. and to listen. because i truly believe in my heart of hearts, we can
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overcome. >> meanwhile, the president responding to biden's flurry of criticisms by a tweet like this. sleepile joe has been in politics for 40 years and did nothing. now he pretends to have the answers. he doesn't even know the questions. weakness will never beat anarchists, looters or thugs and joe has been politically weak all of his life. law and order. joining me david mark from "the examiner." david, thank you for joining us. >> good morning. >> we talked about this all week. we have seen many times, the president threatening to use military force against the american people. the people for the most part are protesting peacefully in the streets a we see throughout the day. what has been the reaction that you have been hearing so far in washington to this? >> there is a lot of skepticism over the proposed potential use
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of military force. and so far, it's just that. we did see some actions from federal agents there the other night, outside the white house that escalating this to include the military is a whole other thing. there are actually a lot of laws which prevent the use of military force for civilian law enforcement. there are very specific circumstances in which you can do that. we can't really just have tanks in the streets willy-nilly. and i think there will be a whole lot of pushback against this. trump's base might like if. but i'm not sure that would help him get over the finish line on election day. >> let's talk about that. ♪ photo op while i have you. the president obviously facing a lot of backlash at this church.
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where people have attended every sunday, not necessarily this president, though. i got a statement from the arch diocese reading in part, it would allow itself to be manipulated. this is the archdiocese of washington. how do you expect a move like this to effect his evangelical base, his supporters? >> i'm not sure it actually hurts them with the base, i think they are so many with him for reasons that have probably little to do with theology and religion. they like this nationalism, strong hand, and he's got them -- the question is how much of a voting base they actually compose. i think if people didn't like donald trump, these episodes are not going to help him at all, but i'm not sure they actually lose him that many people either. >> david mark, thank you as always. stay close, i will talk to you in just a little bit.
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welcome back, everybody. the minnesota department of human rights has filed a civil rights charge against the minneapolis police department. launching an investigation into its practices and policies towards minority residents. >> the investigation will review mpd's policies and practices over the last ten years to determine if the department has utilized systemic zrdiscriminaty
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practices. >> and saying this is not a report, this is a will make change. and telling reporterers, the longer process consensually reaches a consent decree that can be enforced by the court. joining me is msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. those don't seem for civil rights. civil rights are for penalties or something. walk us through the outcome that we could actually get here. >> yeah, i've handled cases before a state rights commission like minnesota's and most typically, when you see the litigation, they are sort of parallel to the eeoc. they investigate within their state violations of state anti-discrimination laws. you often see them in the context of charges of employment discrimination. you'll file a complaint with the division of human rights, the state department.
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they'll investigate and they'll even try to mediate with the parties and resolve it. this is a little different procedurally, but overall, it's the same thing. the human rights commission here, the human rights department, i should say, is investigating the minneapolis police force to look for systemic discrimination policies, practices, procedures. and then this is a precursor to a cobble lawsuit by, say, the attorney general. but they will issue a report and findings and try to resolve the issue. >> danny, we had a report yesterday of two separate autopsy reports, right? there was one autopsy report that came from the floyd family. essentially the floyd family had hired someone outside. someone who was from new york city, essentially to gave an autopsy report. and then there was another autopsy report that was delivered from the state of minnesota. how is this going to play into
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all of this? could that feasibly effect making the charge against the officers? >> we've seen the case of what experts call the battle of the experts. which seems count er intuitive with autopsies with experts on both sides reach completely different conclusions. and these autopsies will be significant evidence not only to bring charges against officers but also whether or not officers can feel confident that they can secure a conviction. because they know that any competing autopsy reports will show up at trial. and the defense would use them to create some reasonable doubt. now, the autopsy reports in this case are significant, as are the surrounding facts, as prosecutors decide whether or not to bring charges against the other officers as to what they saw, what they let happen. what they had a duty to get
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consternation what's going on in the united states. it is a time to pull people together. but it is a time to listen. >> that may have been comment enough. that was canadian prime minister justin trudeau at a loss for words for 21 seconds, to be exact, when asked about the president's use of tear gas on protesters to make way for a photo op. and as protests are continuing across this country, the president finds himself isolated, not just at home. but also abroad as "the new york times" is putting. american and european allies in particular now say they are emboldened enough to say they're shocked and appalled by george floyd's death. and an abuse of power and an
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excessive use of force and urged to the united states to act in fuel respect of the law and human rights. angela merkel said she will not attend the g7 summit citing the pandemic. let's get to bill karins for the weather. good morning, bill. >> good morning to you, yasmin. let's talk about severe weather in areas of the northeast and ohio valley, midwest. tropical storm cristobal. we have the new storm from the hurricane center, a huge issue for the southern portions of gulf of mexico and bay of campeche, dangerous historic flooding. here's the end of the forecast cone. they do stake the storm friday and saturday over the central gulf. and the gulf of mexico by saturday, i do have is that
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increasing to a strong tropical storm from mobile. this is over land the next couple of days. we don't even know if it's actually going to survive or not. let me give you a little -- here's the european model. takes it over mexico. then slowly drifts it northward. then rapidly moves it northward as we go throughout sunday. sunday night, coastal areas of louisiana. the american computer model. we call this the spaghetti model for obvious reasons. all of these possible scenaris.s some of them dissipated over new orleans, and the intensity is going to be how strong it is for the upcoming weekend. as far as severe weather, 65 million people at risk. we will have a lot of storms from kansas city to st. louis and ohio valley.
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we have the enhanced area of storms. widespread wind damage is possible for areas of central pennsylvania including new york city, philadelphia and all areas of coastal new jersey. it looks like two lines of storms, 2:00 p.m. this afternoon approaching new york city. and then a second line of storms will be coming into areas from baltimore and d.c. and then again in new york later on this evening. it's going to be a stormy afternoon and also a hot day across the country. yasmin, as we get a little closer to the weekend, we'll be able to pinpoint people who are most at threat for this tropical storm and have our fingers crossed it does not become a hurricane. >> i know you're following that for us. still ahead, everybody. what senate republicans are saying about the president's move to clear protesters to allow for a photo op. plus, republican congressman steve king who has represented his district in iowa since 2002 is out after losing his re-election bid. we're back in a moment.
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people are normal and then they hang out with you and then they're jack nicholson in the shining. i'm gonna tell my mom you tried to drown me. it's an above ground pool. you're like eight feet tall. ♪ welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin this half hour as protests are continuing across the country and near the site of george floyd's death under the knee of a police officer in minneapolis. nbc news political reporter shaquille brewster has the latest. >> reporter: yasmin, protests continue to happen in minneapolis. thousands coming out every day. even here at the location where george floyd was killed over a week ago. protesters have been coming out in force.
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yes, they're bringing flowers so sometimes it's a solemn ceremony. other times it's an active move. and they believe they're starting to see some of that change. the governor announced a civil rights charge against the minneapolis police department yesterday, looking into possible discriminatory practices that he says are systemic. he says he's going to look at not only the george floyd case but go on extending and looking at the past ten years against the department, looking at patterns or practices and see if they can find any instances of systemic issues there. if you listen to the family's attorney, benjamin crump, saying that they are expecting charges against those three remaining minneapolis police officers who were fired involved in the killing of mr. floyd. 33 say that those officers will be charged and prosecuted before mr. floyd is laid to rest. we know his ceremony will be in houston on tuesday. after a ceremony here in minneapolis on thursday. that's the latest here.
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protesters saying they'll don't come out and let their voice be heard in the memory of george floyd, yasmin. >> our thanks to shaquille brewster for that report. in washington, meanwhile, a republican senator struggling yesterday to address the president's harsh response to peaceful protesters who gathered outside the white house monday night. with many dodging questions about whether the tactics were too much or amounted to an abuse of power that infringed on first amendment rights, watch this. >> senator mcconnell is what the president did last night the right thing to do? >> senator, nice to see you. was what the president did last night right? senator, was what the president did last night with the peaceful protesters outside the white house the right thing to do? >> pardon? >> what the president did, the peaceful protesters that were disbursed with tear gas, he then walked across to the church, was that the right thing to do? >> didn't really see it.
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>> senator, what the president did yesterday at st. john's was that appropriate? was that abuse of power? senator roberts is what the president did last night at st. john's, was that appropriate? was clearing the protesters an abuse of power? i'm sorry? >> i don't have a comment. >> you don't have any comment about what happened last night? >> they have a right. >> senator enzi, are you concerned at all what happened at the white house last night? >> sorry, i'm late for lunch. >> senator blackburn, do you have any concerns about what unfolded at the white house last night? >> senator portman, do you think what we saw at the white house -- >> i'm late for lunch. >> senator cassidy, was what we saw at the white house last night an abuse of power?
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>> and that was kasie hunt. you got to give it to her, repeatedly asking that question of senators over and over again. and repeatedly getting silence, as you saw, no answer. also, though, while that's happening others are offering full-throated defenses of the president. there were those exceptions. as some senators criticized the president. senator ben sasse of nebraska put out a written statement, i'm against clearing out a peaceful protest of a photo op that treats the word of god as a political prop. lisa mccowsky saying, i think a tone is really, really important right now. and i do not believe that the tone coming from the president is helping. it's not helping me as a leader. senator susan collins of maine said trump looked unsympathetic and adding it was painful to watch protesters being tear gassed so the president could
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walk across the street. >> and then saying, he hopes the president can show an appreciation for the anger that people are feeling and just listen. and tim scott, saying he did not think that using teargas for the photo op was the right action. and as the president has said he will officially pull the republican national committee from north carolina. trump has written in a string of tweets righting in part yesterday, governor cooper is still in shelter in place mode and not allowing us to occupy the arena as originally promised. we are now forced to seek another state to host the 2020 republican national committee. an rnc person confirmed that the
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convention will be held in another city. adding this should it should the governor allow more than ten people in a room, we still hope to conduct the official business of the convention in charlotte. and governor cooper tweeted it's unfortunate they never agreed to scale down and make changes to keep people safe. meanwhile, "the new york times" reporting that rnc officials are planning a visit to nashville later in the week to assess its suitability for the convention. according to a republican official familiar with the plans. other cities under consideration are las vegas, orlando, jacksonville, as well as sites in georgia. just to be clear, a convention like this has republicans have planned could draw as many as 50,000 people to these cities amidst a pandemic. nine-term republican congressman steve king has been unseated in the republican primarile of
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iowa's fourth district after a tumultuous tenure in the house plagued by a history of racism remarks. king lost his bid to randy finstra. last year, king was stripped of his committee assignments in the house after making remarks to "the new york times" saying this, quote, white nationalists, white supremacists, western civilizati civilization, how did that language become offensive? these comments were brought on by calls for king to resign and even prompted senate majority leader mitch mcconnell to tell the congressman, quote, find another line of work. here for the "washington examiner" david mark. this is a very significant defeat to say the least.
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i think folks did see this coming but nonetheless significant. talk us through what else you saw from the primaries? >> well, it's notable that house republican leaders and senate leaders like mitch mcconnell and others, basically, the republican establishment was willing to denounce steve king in a way that they've never done with donald trump even when he's made comparable remarks. now, trump's never said anything directly about white nationalism, and he's come close and gone along the same lines. here, they made a clear moral choice, they wanted this guy out. now, it's somewhat easier to do because it's the republican seat replacing steve king with a conventional republican who will go the party line, won't stay stupid things and won't give them any problems. so, it's kind of a sign of progress that this happened, you might say, but it makes you wonder why they're willing to do it in this case, but not with
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president trump. >> yeah, as they do over and over again, basically refusing to comment on the president's actions even when we saw when kasie hunt was asking those questions there. the president basically saying he's going to pull the republican national convention in north carolina. looking at other states to possibly hold it. as i mention, this could draw 50,000 folks to any number of these states that they decide to hold this convention in. which is tough for any governor, for any mayor of that city to handle, considering the fact that westerly in the midst of a pandemic. how could this impact the election going forward, a move like this? >> well, it's interesting, you mentioned the democratic governor of north carolina roy koor cooper. he's an unlikely resistance figure. he's not usually out there on the national scene denouncing donald trump. or really even being much of a partisan. usually keeping low profile and is pretty moderate.
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he's probably didn't the most for donald trump as any democrat. and this has clearly gotten under trump's skin. it's not clear and i think what the president is really looking for is a big rally. i doubt he really cares about the rest of the convention business. the 50,000 people or so. that's mostly inside the republican politics. it's not on television. what he wants is the stadium rally. so, he'll find some other place for it. las vegas seems less likely because there's a democratic governor of nevada. but somebody will be willing to host that. >> all right, david mark, thank you as always. still ahead, everybody, agency the coronavirus continues to spread and experts warn of a potential surge in cases this summer, the effort to respond to the pandemic is showing signs of
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and we know a second wave is possibly in the pipeline this summer. if not this summer, for sure, most experts believe a second wave is coming in the fall with no coronavirus task force in place, who will lead the charge to fight this? >> yeah. and we're barely off the first wave. i mean, we're only, you know, a third offer the peak. so, let me give you some of the numbers. and there was some things that were eye opening yesterday. now, we're up to 108,000, just because we hit 100,000, everybody made a big deal about it, we lost 1,034 lives yesterday. illinois was the state that reported the most fatalities with 113. it's not like things have completely stopped. 1,000 lives in one day. as far as total cases, we've had 21,000 new cases reported yesterday. california was once again the state who reported the most, 2,843. there were a couple other states that caught my eye yesterday. arizona made the top six list.
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arizona went through a historic heat wave at the end of may. yesterday was the most deadly day that arizona reported for one day. the heat had no effect whatever in arizona at the end of may. so the dry heat is no hope whatsoever it's going to eradicate the amount of cases. there's a report that maybe high humidity. we'll find that out later on in the southeast. texas coming in yesterday. here's the daily new case count for texas. yesterday was the second highest daily new case report for texas. you see that all the way to the right, if you notice that blue line that trend is up in texas. it has not gone down. it started slow in texas and increasing if you look at the daily trend. now, i'll shift the weather because we do have concerns today. we have a severe weather threat for a lot of people. wind damage, isolated tornadoes, the big concern are areas from
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pennsylvania, to highly populated areas from philadelphia to new york city, widespread wind damage is going to be possible later on this afternoon. so, keep an eye on that. a lot of people losing power in these storms, a lot of people working from home, makes life a little more difficult. >> thank you, bill. >> still ahead, everybody, kids network nickelodeon has come under criticism after airing a nearly nine-minute psa against police brutality. that story and others coming up. my nunormal: fewer asthma attacks. less oral steroids. taking my treatment at home.
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welcome back, everybody. so, we still have a lot of small businesses throughout this country that have and are still struggling to receive that federal funding through the paycheck protection program. $120 billion of the $310 billion that was allotted has still yet to be tapped into. so there's still more money for some of these small businesses. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum is joining us live from london on
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this. this is baffling to me. because i've spoken to small business owners. who have yet to get this money, and yet there's still money that could be tricky story. we've been covering it since the beginning. this is the second round of stimulus that congress approved for small businesses. you'll remember we discussed at length around the first of this program how some of it was taken out by larger companies, that it wasn't actually designed to help. now this time around that rush to replenish that payment protection program with $310 billion in funding seems to have not actually been allocated. 120 billion, as you say, still left undistributed for small businesses. 4.4 million loans have been made now in both rounds of the triple p program. one statistic that is interesting here. the average loan ameaount has ce
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down to around $114,000. this is encouraging from the perspective of truly small businesses. it suggests that this latest round of funding is reaching the businesses it was designed to help. this is important because that first round of money was, you know, heavily criticized for ending up in the hands of some of the larger businesses. one other story i want to highlight for you. zoom, it will come as no surprise to you many of you working from home or those with children that zoom reported revenue growth of 169% during the quarter. the company also doubled its guidance for the year. it's been tremendous for this company as people have flocked to zoom to hold their conference calls. students with their teachers, et cetera. so big, big quarter for zoom. yasmin. >> i quickly want to touch on this. nickelodeon making a decision to air controversial eight:dpou8:4
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for george floyd. how is this being received? >> this is huge in america. now had the debate about how to talk to children about racism. the 8:40 video was the amount of time that the police officer chauvin pinned his knee to george floiyd and is very controversial. plenty of people saying is this right to weair is open a children's channel. >> it's an important conversation, the question is how you have it. thank you, julianna. up next, a look at axios' one big thing. coming up on "morning joe," with the u.s. steeped in civil unrest amid a global pandemic, house speaker nancy pelosi will join joe and mika. "morning joe" is moments away. ourselves constantly; it's important. we walk three to five times a week, a couple miles at a time.
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>> talk to us about axios' one big thing today. >> good morning, yasmin. it's good to see you. in the past week the differences between joe biden and donald trump have been plain as day as the two men are responding to the protests that are under folding around the country and that your network and you have been covering so well. this matters, of course, because we're in an election year and americans are seeing first hand how both of our presidential nominees would handle a national crisis that is happening within a global pandemic. that is obviously a massive feat for any president to talk will. the biden campaign acknowledges that has president correcting the original sin of this country, addressing slavery and racism and it's lasting effects is one of the hardest things that a president would have to do. and we're seeing how both men would respond. we're seeing president trump tweet things to protesters, having conversations with governors where he's calling them weak. we see the opposite from joe biden where he's offering
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empathy and passionate speeches. we're in an election year and this is showing americans the two types of leaders that you'd have of course at a really bad moment for the country. but we know that anything could happen in the future. >> i also want to touch on some of this really interesting polling that you guys have, this new axios poll showing that america has a massive racial divide on two big issues the country is facing right now. 77% of whites saying they have trust in local police force compared with just 36% of african americans. what a divide there. not surprising. and 75% of african american say they are extremely or very concerned that coronavirus is doing greater damage to people of color. talk us through this. this is fascinating. >> it is fascinating and i think it puts in no uncertain terms this racial gap that we have in the country that george floyd's killing took to reveal those divisions even further. but, as you mentioned, we're
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dealing with these twin crises, a public health crisis and the coronavirus and this tragic killing of george floyd. trust in police is something that i think americans have slowly been starting to understand, that are there's a gap even in that. and the people who are there to protect us, black americans do not feel like they are protected in the same way. the other interesting thing is the empathy about this situation. democrats and women are more likely than republicans and men to have concerns that the coronavirus is disproportionately affecting people of color in this country. and i thought that was really interesting too, because it's one thing to recognize as an african american person, a woman of color, the racial inequalities and the gender inequalities that you face, it takes a level deeper for someone to be unaffected that way to understand the way it's affecting your fellow americans. it takes everyone to make changes, not just the people who are affected. >> and that's what needs to
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happen, right, in order to effect change. it needs to be everybody that needs to be involved to understand it and the inequities that are happening in this country right now. i want to talk about this because i was talking about this during the break with my producer. the coverage of george floyd's death and the protests across the country, they have drawfed the coverage of the coronavirus. what type of effect has this had on the pandemic? >> yeah, it's i really interesting point, yasmin, because before all this coronavirus, as you know, is getting wall to wall coverage, as it deserved, of course, it's a global pandemic and there's a lot we didn't know that we needed to figure out. the interesting contrast to me is that the coronavirus news coverage, there was a lot of secrecy. there was a lot of access that we didn't have as journalists to hospitals to be on the front lines to see what was actually going on. there were a lot of question marks about testing and what's going on inside and outside of the white house. now with george floyd's coverage, this is the complete
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opposite. there are stark videos and images going viral that are hitting people in a visceral way, and we're seeing how that's impacting americans and the coverage. >> all right, alexi mccammond, thank you. i will be reading axios am in a little bit. you too can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for me on this wednesday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. the president held up the bible at st. john's church yesterday. i just wish he opened it once in a while instead of brandishing it. if he opened it, he could have learned something. they're all called to love one another as we love ourselves. it's really hard work. but it's the work of america. donald trump isn't interested in doing that work. instead, he's preening and sweeping away all the guardrails that have long protected our democracy, guardrails that have help make possible this nation's path to a more
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