>> let's keep listening. that's the sound of a very informed voice, narrating about people were fed up. that was 25 years ago. america faces a larger reckoning now. we fail to listen and act at our own peril. that's our broadcast tonight. keep it right here on msnbc. good evening. i'm joy reed. massive protests continue across the country. in new york, in washington, d.c., los angeles and elsewhere. it was an emotional day in minneapolis, meanwhile, as the family of george employed remembered his life ten days after his death in police custody, set off what has become a tipping point a race and justice in america.

>> everywhere you go and see people, how they cling to him, they wanted to be around him. george, he was like a general. every day he walks outside, there would be a line of people just like when we came in, wanted to greet him and wanted to have fun with him. >> the reverend al sharpton delivered the eulogy and pointed out what killed george floyd and many more like him. >> he died of a common american criminal justice malfunction. he died because there has not been the corrective behavior that has taught this country that if you commit a crime, it does not matter whether you wear blue jones or a blue uniform, you must pay for the crime you

commit. >> during today's service a moment of silence was held for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. the same amount of time that minneapolis police officer derek chauvin had his knee on george floyd's neck as he pleaded for his life. chauvin now faces charges of second-degree murder. at the same time george floyd was being remembered, the three other police officers involved in his death appeared in court. tou thao, alexander kueng and thomas lane who all stood by and watched were arraigned on charges of aiding and abetting second-degree murder and manslaughter. the court date for chauvin has not been set. we're also learning more details about the night george floyd died. a friend who was with him in the car at the time that he was stopped told "the new york times" floyd did not resist a

rest. the friend said i could hear him pleading, please, officer, what is all this for. he went on to say he was from the beginning trying in his humblest form to show he was not resisting. today was one of many remembrances. today thousands gathered across the brooklyn bridge led by floyd's brother terrence. and in washington senate democrats gathered for a moment of silence lasting 8 minutes and 46 seconds, several of them kneeling on the marble floor. in minneapolis, reverend sharpton said the protests across the country and around the world reflected the struggle that black americans have faced for centuries. >> the reason why we're marching all over the world is we were like george. we couldn't breathe. not because there was something wrong with our lungs, but that

you wouldn't take your knee off our neck. we don't want no favors. just get up off of us and we can be and do whatever we can be. >> i'm joined my rev lend al sharpton and the president of the national action network. state's attorney for baltimore city and joyce vans, former u.s. attorney. rev, i want to start with you. first of all, it was a beautiful service. it really was moving just to see his family and to hear from them. you've done so many of these, unfortunately. this is a thing that you've been called upon to do a lot. what do you think is different about george floyd's murder that has created this global activism? >> i think two or three things. one, i think that we've seen in the last 30 days the killing of

ahmed arbery in brunswick and then we saw the killing of brianna taylor by police in louisville, kentucky, and then this killing right here in minneapolis. and people watching three within 30 days, while they're home sheltered down and no distractions, no sports team, they focus in and said this is too much. and then when you look at that tape, 8 minutes and 46 second, what could make someone just hold their knee down on an unarmed man who was not resisting? people said no, time has come, we must do something about criminal justice and police reform. >> you know, i remember being at penn and north when the announcement came through in the freddie gray case and there was a lot of reporting from the reporters that there was

happiness, that thank god, there's going to be charges in the george floyd case as well. but of course we know how that turned out, a judge made the decision not to convict those officers. i want to let you hear what the hennepin county attorney, attorney freeman, who compared the freddie gray case to a george floyd case. this is when he still had control of it. take a listen. >> we have to do this right. we have to prove it in a court of law. and i will just point to you the comparison to what happened in baltimore in the gray case. it was a rush to charge, it was a rush to justice, and all of those people were found not guilty. i will not rush to justice. i'm going to do this right. >> of course that was the three days after the murder and now the case is out of his hands. it's in the hands of the attorney general. can you comment on that? because was the issue in

prosecuting those police officers -- because there was no video of at least part of what happened to freddie gray. is it the difficulty of getting police officers convicted period, or was it the speed of the decision that you made? >> first and foremost, i think that my colleague was just out of line and even interjecting me and deflecting from his lack of courage and his lack of -- his inaction, quite candidly. and what i can tell you is that five years ago when a black man by the name of freddy carlos gray jr. made icon tact with the police, who was placed into a metal wagon head first, feet shackled, whose spine was servered in the back of the wagon, i followed the facts with the law and i wouldn't do anything differently. i kmar charged the officers that were

responsible. it took us 18 days from the time of the incident until we came out with the charges. but in this moment i think you all touched on an important sort of issue and some of the issues that have presented itself is that we can't underestimate the power of a prosecutor. this prosecutor, i believe, has set off these protests. because when we look at the criminal justice system as reverend al sharpton has eloquently said at the eulogy today, when you look at a criminal justice system that has disproportionately impacted black people, from the enforcement of saves to the abolishment of slavery, to jim crow and civil rights and the war on drug. when you look at all of these issues historically, the criminal justice system has impacted black people. and what people were crying out for, what we are currently crying out for is a just, equal

system that is going to apply one standard of justice to all and in that case and prior to attorney general ellison getting the case, that prosecutor gave everybody some sense of lack of trust within this system. >> and joyce, to that very point, there has to be a political willingness to do what will be unpopular with the police unions, which i can remember were very angry at marilyn mosby for doing that prosecution. you had keith ellison who was able to take the case away from the hennepin county prosecutor, which by the way the previous prosecutor never prosecuted a police officer. so can you just talk about that, the challenge of getting prosecutors to take this brave political step, but what the victims demand?

>> you know, on the one hand i guess you could characterize it as brave, joy, but on the other hand as a former u.s. attorney, i'll just tell you it's your job to do things that are unpopular. you have to follow the law and the facts. and twice in my eight years as u.s. attorney i authorized on police excessive force cases, neither resulting in death but both resulting in body injury where we did not convict in front of a jury. one the jury hung and could not reach a unanimous verdict. one thing i don't hear people talking about is the need to change the laws, because the standard is often very high for proving both in federal and state court these cases and there should be a standard that permits us to charge police officers who were involved as clearly happened here in a reckless disregard for human life. that's the standard that's commonly used for second-degree

murder across the country and we need that sort of a charge here, because we have to hold police accountable. as everyone has said, without that sort of fair dealing and honest treatment, then no one can have confidence in the integrity of the criminal justice system. we've got a lot of work cut out ahead to restore that. >> and it seems that step one would be to look at sort of the attitudinal kind of issues. let's show you a couple of headlines. this is at the protests. police brutality continues today. a college student's family says that he has brain damage after police shot him with a bean bag round. police in california fatally shoot a man with a hammer who was kneeling outside of a walgreens. another set of headlines, a tacoma, washington, case in which a person died as a result of how he was restrained,

similarly to how george floyd was. and a florida officer on leave after pressing his knee onto a man's neck. so there's a sense in which the police unions know that donald trump is 100% behind them. it kind of feels the way it did when rudy giuliani was running new york city. police knew that whatever they did, he was on their side. he's always going to be on their side. how do you get at that, the attitudinal issues with police? >> i think the way we get at that is that we must begin to tell police they cannot operate in an abusive way, no matter what their attitude or their feelings. people say police are human and they are. but they get the power of the state behind them that ordinary humans don't have in this country. once you put on that badge and gun and represent the state, we have a right to expect that you're going to enforce the law and that you're not going to

behave like ordinary people in their ordinary emotions, and i think if the laws don't protect us, if the laws do not make it possible for prosecutors to protect us, then i think that we are on a down ward spiral in terms of how the society will function. and that's been expressed by tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, white, black, asian, american indian, as well as latinos all over the world, and particularly in the united states with these demonstrations. >> to that very point, i want to play a sound bite. this is senator lindsey graham. this is him opining about the way that in his view young black men view police. >> if you go and talk to your african-american friends, they will tell you that they tell young african-american men, teenagers and young adults, if the cops stop you, keep your

hands on the wheel, don't reach for the glove compartment, say yes, sir, no, sir. so i've come to believe that young black men, rightly or wrongly, perceive the police to be a threat when many times they're not. but we've got to deal with that problem. and if we don't be honest with the problem, then we're never going to make progress. >> i don't know what expertise he's speaking from, but i'll let you handle that one. your thoughts. >> i think it's rather disconcerting for a senator to think that way. when you look at eric gardner, he was killed because he was allegedly selling a loose cigarette. you look at sandra bland, she was ultimately killed because she didn't signal her traffic signal. we look at freddie gray, he merely made icon tact with a police officer. we look at george floyd. this is an allegation that he tried to pass a counterfeit $20

bill during a global pandemic for groceries. it is absurd for black people in america not to feel threatened when it comes to their engagement with police. and so i think that it goes beyond political will and political courage of the prosecutor to actually have one standard of justice. there are systems in place that protect police officers from being accountable, not only in the courtrooms but outside of the courtrooms. we have to work with the police department. we need independent investigations. no profession should be investigating their own. and freddie gray, i can tell you search warrants weren't executed. we have witnesses to the actual incident that we're assigned to investigate to case. you had the most pertinent questions that weren't being asked. no profession should be able to investigate their own. that's one systemic sort of reform that needs to take place.

when we talk about the law enforcement bill of rights, all across this country police departments' hands are tied with problematic officers. this particular officer that has been charged with second-degree murder had 18 complaints, which is foreseeable as an issue. the blue wall of silence that officers are going to get in there and testify against their colleagues, i can tell you from first hand experience that is not going to happen. the fact that you have police that circumvent the juries and then go and choose bench trials. these are all systematic reforms that need to take place. >> i wish we had more time. we are unfortunately out of time. reverend al sharpton, thank you so much. thank you, thank you, thank you. and coming up, the generals lining up against donald trump, some of them are former members of his own administration. is this the part of the story where prominent citizens come forward to proclaim that the emperor has no clothes.

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resignation. the president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened or is confused. mattis is the latest of several military leaders who are speaking out against trump over his recent actions, and for more i'm joined by jay johnson, former secretary of homeland security in the obama administration. thank you so much for being here. i want to play you yet another person who has spoken out against donald trump and his interesting use of the military. here is general john allen, four-star general. and talking about the threats to use military against protesters, which he says could be the beginning of the end of american democracy. take a listen. >> when the president tells them that if they don't rise to his standard of how they're going to control and as we say dominate the streets, consider the cities to be battle spaces, imposing federal forces on a governor that's not asked for it, it's completely out of whack with

respect to how we operate within this country and the way we would em employ the constitution. i've fought in overseas wars and i never believed that the constitution was under threat until recently and i have concerns about that. we should all be attentive right now to how the rule of law is being administered in this country. >> secretary johnson, if another country was doing these kinds of things, clearing the streets of protesters with tear gas just so that the leader could take a photo op, what would we consider that to be, and using the military against their own citizens? >> un-american. not a free society. joy, it's interesting to me that i've worked with all these generals. when i was general counsel of the department of defense, before i was secretary of homeland security, allen, mattis, mullen, dempsey, i worked with all of them.

i gave the legal sign-off for their military operations. i know them well and i know their character. it's interesting to me, for the last three days i've been explaining to the public that we have laws against what we refer to as deploying the active duty military on the streets of the united states for law enforcement purposes. we don't do that in this country. and the insurrection act of 1807, which the white house pulled out of the closet two or three days ago, is only a measure of last resort when state governments can no longer function. and those are legal concepts, but to the generals, to career military officers, it's ingrained in their culture, it's ingrained in their values, that the military, the active duty military is for overseas conflicts and we do not deploy in this country the active duty military to apply force to our own citizens.

and that's why you see so many retired military four-stars who are all their adult life apolitical, coming out and speaking out against this. because it so offends everything they know about the military and their culture. >> they're speaking out, but not everyone is as comfortable doing so. let me play you some members of the united states senate and how they reacted to being asked about these very same comments. >> general mattis, what do you say? he calls the president a threat to the constitution. he called the president a threat to the constitution. do you agree? senator? >> i'm not going to get in between a dispute between the former secretary of defense and the president of the united states. >> i had not heard that remark. i would have to take a look at it and see what the context was. >> i respect general mattis. he has every right to express his opinion. >> in fairness, there was one

person who did say something. here's lisa murkowski of alaska. >> i thought general mattis' words were true and honest and necessary and overdue. and i have been struggling for the right words when i saw general mattis' comments yesterday. i felt like perhaps we're get to the point where we can be more honest. >> in "the atlantic," trying to explain why the republican leaders are so afraid to say anything about what seems to be a quite obvious issue, she wrote fear of course is the most important reason any in has been tent of an ought authoritarian does not resign or forces people

to do things they know to be wrong. each violation of our constitution and civic peace gets absorbed by people who once upon a time knew better. if following one of the ugliest elections, these people may accept worse unless they decide not to. are you concerned if donald trump wins re-election that he will go full authoritarian and we will no longer be a functional democratic society? >> i am concerned about that. but the question you asked a moment ago why, it's not hard. it's politics. and images speak a thousand words. all those senators marching by the microphones with the masks on and not saying anything speaks volumes. you know, when i watched that image, the one thing i thought of was if john mccain were still alive today in the united states senate, job mccain would be livid about the prospect of sending active duty military to

lafayette park in washington, d.c. lindsey graham, who you showed a moment ago, in addition to being a united states senator, he is a reservist in the united states air force as a jag, a military lawyer. he is in his reservist capacity a colonel level lawyer in the military. lindsey graham knows better and so if donald trump gets a second term, you know, he'll be unleashed from having to think about getting re-elected again and will continue to act on a lot of the same impulses we're seeing now. a lot of his language, frankly, sounds like a sheriff from is southeast in the early 1960s or an authoritarian leader from overseas. it's foreign to how you and i grew up listening to presidents, republican and democrat. >> first i want to show you some images that were disturbing to a

lot of people of troops throughout dc hiding their names, not identifying what agency they were from. it's not clear whether they were from federal bureau of prisons or who they were. first of all, is that normal, number one? first of all, let me just ask you that. is that normal? >> the only other time i have ever seen military officers remove their name badges from their uniforms is in a detention facility where you don't want the detainee to see the name. i've never seen that -- first of all, you don't see active duty military on the streets in washington, d.c. that often. it's hard to know whether they were guard or active duty military. but no, i have not seen that before. >> and very quickly, can you ever imagine president obama under any circumstances, because there were protests outside, going into the bunker that was used for 9/11 to secure the vice president?

>> joy, the department of homeland security includes the secret service and i led the department of homeland security, so i guess my answer to that has to be that's between the president and the secret service. >> all right, fair enough. thank you very much. >> sorry. >> that's okay. thank you very much. up next, louisville, kentucky, is another protest flash point following the deaths of a young first responder and a beloved restaurant owner. we'll talk about a state representative from louisville, who is challenging mitch mcconnell for his senate seat in the upcoming election. stay with us. we are back after this. >> i think it's absolutely abhorrent that at this day and time we're still having to go through this. i've just been here through a lot of things. people getting killed unnecessarily, the wrong identity, the wrong person killed and the police sweeping it under the rug.

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express anger over the death of brianna taylor and david act a tee. taylor would have turned 27 years old tomorrow was shot at least eight times by louisville police officers in her own home. mcatee was a beloved pillar in his community. he was killed after louisville police and national guardsmen fired live ammunition into a crowd that had gathered near his restaurant turg protests. the police chief was fired after officers failed to operate their body cameras. the republican senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said that national protests have been hijacked by rioters committing unjust violence. by the way, its up for re-election in november and last week the lincoln project, a group of prominent republicans

working to defeat donald trump and those who support him, released this ad targeting mcconnell. >> rich mitch has a nice ring to it. so what did kentucky get in the bargain? well, we're 40th in job opportunity, 45th in education, 43rd in health care. getting the picture? after 35 years kentuckians are still waiting for the kinds of opportunities mitch worked so hard to give himself with another six years of mitch mcconnell, we'll still be waiting. and mitch? we'll just be richer. so what will history say about mitch mcconnell? the same thing many kentuckians say now, not a damn thing. >> i am joined by kentucky state representative charles booker, who is going to take on senator mcconnell in the fall. you've been out at these protests. when you're out there, is the

anger highly specific to the brianna taylor case, which is horrific to the mcatee case, or is it like some of these other protests, the broader question of police brutality? >> well, first of all, it's good to be with you. i am very honored. and yes, it's a bit of both. there's a lot of anger, frustration, rightfully so, at the tragic loss of brianna taylor, who was close to my family. but there's also a lot of pain from generations of injustice that has plagued our community and we're crying out in both ends because we know things really do need to change. >> you know, when people think about these upcoming united states senate race, the assumption has been that in order to, you know, remove mitch mcconnell, it needs to be somebody who is sort of similar to him, somebody who is more to the right, somebody who -- there's a presumption that a black candidate can't win.

with the passion that you're seeing out there in louisville now because of these two killings, do you think that that calculus has changed about who can win in the state, statewide? >> well, that calculus was always wrong. it was based on not listening to kentuckians who have been demanding change for a long time. i come from the poorest zip code in the state and we're dealing with generational pav poverty. we're dealing with real issues that will not go away by saying that you're going to be approached from a democrat. so if you listen to the people of the commonwealth, we want mitch gone yesterday so we can transform our future. >> i've got to let you listen to senator rand paul who had some things to say today talking with kamala harris and cory booker, who are trying to pass anti-lynching legislation

through the united states senate. take a listen. >> i seek to amend this legislation, not because i take it or i take lynching lightly, but because i take it seriously and this legislation does not. this bill would cheapen the meaning by defining it so broadly as to include a minor bruce or abrasion. >> there is no reason for this. there is no reason other than cruel and deliberate obstruction on a day of mourning. >> we pass this, it would not only do something substantive to make a difference on the books of the american federal system, but it would speak volumes to the racial pain and the hurt of generations. i do not need my colleague, the senator from kentucky, to tell me about one lynching in this country. >> what do you make of senator rand paul, the junior senator from kentucky, holding up this

bill and also on the day of george floyd's memorial service, and lecturing the two black democratic senators about what lynching means? >> it is grossly disrespectful. it's ignorant of our history. the challenges we face with structural racism and inequity. i say that because i've had family members lynched in kentucky and we have family members lynched in this commonwealth and to have an official say he could careless about that trauma shows that he's unfit. >> the primaries this month, we wish you the best of luck. i think it's the 22nd or 23rd of this month. good luck to you. kentucky state representative charles booker, the 23rd of the month. thank you very much. proes appreciate it. election day is less than

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welcome back. nbc news is reporting tonight that donald trump met with his top political aides and advisers in the oval office this afternoon with a group, discussed very concerning internal polling and reliably republican states such as texas. according to "the new york times," trump is facing the bleakest outlook for his re-election bid so far with his polling numbers plunging in both public and private surveys. his campaign beginning to worry about his standing in states like ohio and iowa that he carried by wide margins four years ago. a monmouth university poll shows biden 11 points ahead of trump and the situation isn't so good for trump in key battleground states either, cording to a in

you fox poll. biden leads by 9 points in wisconsin, which trump won by less than one percentage point in 2016 and biden is up by four in arizona, which hasn't voted for a drat since bill clinton's re-election in 1996. in ohio, a state that trump won easily in 2016, it's tied. biden's two-point lead is within the margin of error. trump's problems may have been exacerbated by his recent actions. "the new york times" reports his response to protests after the killing of george floyd appears to have worsened his political position even further. that's according to officials in both parties. trump appears to be doubling down on that attitude, and that is next. r what you need? i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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welcome back. politico reports that trump is defaulting to his most familiar strategy where his every move is intended to excite or rile the gop base. the base only strategy is a gamble for trump whose campaign has spent much of the past year trying to build up goodwill with suburban swing voters knowing their disapproval could cost him re-election. but the base is also his safe space. if all that matters is that his dedicated supporters turn out in november, he could replace

language with appeals to their worries. i'm joined by democratic polster and former republican congressman. let's jump into this. so donald trump is mad at lisa murkowski. we'll start there. here is lisa murkowski hedging, having already criticized him for wanting to sick the military on americans. here she is hedging on whether she'll support him in 2020. >> can you still support president trump then? is that something you're struggling with. >> i'm struggling wit. i have been struggling for a long time. i think you know that, i didn't support the president in the initial election and i work hard to try to make sure that i'm able to represent my state well. i think there are -- there are important conversations that we need to have as an american people amongst ourselves about where we are right now.

>> she didn't support impeachment. but here is donald trump pouting about that. here he is, of course he tweeted he's not so mad at jack that he won't keep using twitter. there it is. i'm going to campaign against her. her. he's not going to campaign against her. i don't see him getting on one of the miniplanes and campaigning against her. your thoughts on donald trump's burn lisa murkowski strategy >>well, look. he'll go after lisa as he wept after tom. he changed his behavior after he went after mark sanford and others. for lisa murkowski, great. thank you for making the statement. i think a lot of people are saying it might be a little too late. iner moment of his presidency, donald trump will put his own interests ahead of the national

interests. putting his own interests first makes him dangerous. lisa murkowski knows that. those are not my words. those are the words of adam schiff when murkowski did not vote to convict opportunity. i give her credit for say the right things now but a lot of people would say it's lacking. >> yeah. it seems a bit late. but here is the other thing, so, cornel, donald trump keeps using language from the '60s. like sheriffs and stuff. he keeps trying to say the silent majority trying to be nixon from '68. he's hubert humphrey. he's not nixon in the scenario. he's the incumbent. take a look at the ad that the biden campaign is running and i have a question on the other side. >> the country is crying out for leadership.

leadership that can unite us. leadership that can bring us together. i look at the presidency as a very big job. nobody will get it right every time. i won't either but i promise you this, i won't fan the flames of hate. i'll seek to heal the racial wounds that have long plagued our country. not use them as political gain. i'll do my job and i will take responsibility. i won't blame others. >> i mean, biden has to appear to be a adult. how hard. he's making the ads for him >>well, i think it's a little harder than that. by the way, joy, i'm glad to see a democratic party to where i told them they should be a couple of years ago on tackling

the division and racism and how, frankly, the division in the country was just as big a issue with statements of the electorate. particularly women voters as health care or the minimum wage or college affordability. what you see now is the issue of racial division and this issue of racism becoming a front and center issue, i think, going into this next campaign. when you have 59% of college-educated white voters saying that race matters or race will factor in the racial issues will factor in their voting in 2020. you have 60% of young voters saying it will factor into their voting. you can no longer say the division and racism is a side issue. it's a front and center issue in american politics. it's no longer, to a certain extent, other people's issues. i think older white people

understand now. i think that makes it different. >> you know, david, i think that is a good point. you know, it isn't just black kids out there. young black people out there being brutalized by police in these having rubber bullets. it's also white kids. the issues are not as cut and dry for donald trump. his vice president is out there saying they're looking for ways to sort of find opportunities with black voters. i don't understand. it's not even coherent. your thoughts? >> yeah, look, donald trump and republicans at large cannot win on the political issue of civil rights and civil justice. they know that. that's why you're seeing donald trump pivot so strongly to law and order. if he can achieve framing the issue as law and order and going after the rioters and completely avoid george floyd and avoid the anger and the pain of the protesters in the nation wanting

justice, he's on a safe ground with the maga base you were talking about. in 2018, we saw a coalition of voters who weren't just rejecting republicans on immigration and health care and taxes. they were rejecting donald trump's leadership, his behavior, his demeanor, the values he sought to instill. in this moment, right now, those same blue wave coalition voters in 2018 know that while much of the nation is fighting injustice, donald trump is fighting twitter. he's fighting joe scarborough and the deep state and fake news and the governor of north carolina. those voters have not moved from that when yblue coalition. i think they'll still be going in november. >> we're out of time but yes or no, cornel, does joe biden improve on president obama's number with white voters -- white college-educated voters? >> just slightly. donald trump will still win a

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because george floyd's life mattered and tamir rice's life mattered -- >> well said. thank you for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes is up next. tonight on "all in." as the country comes together to mourn george floyd, the president retreats further behind his new white house wall. the condemnations of trump's use of the military on the people continue. tonight how king jeffrey is on the threat to american democracy and trump's performance in fa fascism. and trump's law and order campaign is not paying off. plus, new questions about who is in control of new york city after last night's brutal police clashes. remembering george floyd, the

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