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i'm a lealicia menendez. we are watching protests from coast to coast for a 12th straight day. this is a live picture from washington, d.c. 1 million people are expected to march today. troops with riot shields lined up this morning around the outside of the fenced-in white house in preparation. a live look at chicago where there is a massive crowd this saturday afternoon. large protests are expected in dozens of cities across the country. first, we want to take you to north carolina, where a
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public memorial service for george floyd is happening right now. nbc's priscilla thompson is live. pa si priscilla, tell us about today's memorial service. >> reporter: they actually just wrapped up the public viewing of the body and we believe a few thousand people came out and the peacekeepers are here. they're going to be releasing 100 black balloons as the family arrives for a private service that's going to take place. there was certainly a lot of emotions here. people came from all over to see his body and pay tribute to him here today and there are some people who are advise plea shaken as they were leaving the services. i spoke with one man and i want you to take a listen to what he told me it meant to be here and witness this moment. >> kind of going in there realizing that could be me, that could be my father, that could be my friend, that could be anybody who looks like me. so i think it's kind of
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preparing myself, because i think it is very emotional not just for the family, but for the community because they're hurting. not just here in the united states, but as a global community, and really hoping that this is a wake-up call not just for me, but for those people that can touch as well. >> and this was a diverse crowd that showed up today. i met people from germany and vermont and all over of all ages, all different races, who felt the need to be here and pay respects. one woman told me this is reminiscent of emmett till and perhaps george floyd is the emmett till of our time that will spark change and be talked about for many years to come, alicia. >> priscilla, thank you. this is a live look now at washington, d.c., where marchers are gathering outside the white house. nbc's garrett haake is there now. how has the situation gone so far today between the protesters who are there and some of the
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security forces? >> reporter: alicia, it's a much calmer, much happier vibe here on the streets of washington, d.c. today and part of that is the absence, relatively speaking, of those heavily armed federal officers that we had here. earlier this week, i wouldn't have been able to stand on this street. that was an area that was part of a perimeter protected by heavily armed guards from the bureau of prisons. the decision to get some of those guards off the street -- and make no mistake, there are some federal agents in the city but at this point they're stopping traffic to allow for peaceful protests. the decision to get them off the streets has been helpful in ratcheting down tensions. just the fact that they were here, not answering or accountable to local dc leaders was one of the things that upset a number of the protesters i talked to, including this gentleman who put it better than i can. take a listen. >> and so i'm out here to support this movement today, but i'm also out here because i
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think that the the military is inflaming the situation and i hope my little piece will pass on the message that's not acceptable. >> so alicia, that's been a secondary but still important element of the protests in dc. there's protests for some degree of autonomy here and some are angry for how they cleared the plaza of peaceful protesters on monday and i think it broadened the scope of these protests significantly and maybe broadened people in dc who would not have otherwise participated. >> garrett, thank you. another very active day in louisville, kentucky. protesters taking to the streets again, and a vigil planned today for breonna taylor.
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yesterday would have been her 27th birthday. nbc kae nbc's cal perry is in louisville. how is breonna taylor being remembered today. >> reporter: we had the birthday on what would have been her birthday. there's all these different booths set up. some for kentucky state university. there's a covid testing booth and a registration booth. the organizers want people to know this is a global movement. i want to show you what is behind me. they've made list of every city that protests are taking place around the world and so much of this, alicia, is about the young folks who are out here and connecting with other young folks around the world. and you can see the sort of list of the cities as we go around this memorial. there's been all these pop-up memorials all over louisville. you can see, again, we're talking about the next generation, not my generation. the next generation. there are planned marches tonight. the national guard and the local police really blended into the
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background and i think that made all the difference, because the protests have been peaceful the last 72 hoursment they were not last week. the hope is that tonight there will be another night of peaceful protests looping around the city. >> any indication of where the investigation stands? >> caller: no, you know, all we've heard from the fbi on thursday and that it will be a full and fair investigation. our greatest clue s about what they're investigating is from the family lawsuit where they say police didn't announce themself and there were questionable tactics for the warrants. no arrests made. the police officers are still on administrative leave. people want to see that. the police commissioner was fired, even though he was going to resign this month. certainly any news on those officers involved would make a huge difference on the streets of louisville, alicia. >> cal, thank you. turning now to the white house where the trump administration is celebrating a better than expected jobs
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report. after shedding more than 20 million jobs in april, the labor department says employers added about 2.5 million jobs in may. nbc's monica alba is at the white house. you've seen the jobs numbers and the jobs report. how does that then factor into a new stimulus bill in congress? >> reporter: exactly, well, those discussions have sort of been put on pause for the last month, and because of the jobs report yesterday, all indications are that that continues to be punted to later in the summer. but you did have the white house out there kind of on a victory lap with this unexpectedly good jobs report. it's interesting today, the bureau of labor and statistics is reviewing what it calls a miscalculation error that actually shows unemployment for may is closer to 16% than the 13.3% that was widely reported. so still better than what many were bracing for. remember, we were talking about that 20% and it would be lower than that. the white house is saying even if that is true and you account for this error, it's still better than what many thought
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could happen. so that's a significant point there. but as you ask about what next package or relief could be on the table for americans, take a listen to what vice president mike pence says is at the center of those discussions. >> well, look, those discussions are ongoing and we're going to work in good faith to put the interest of american families and american businesses first. but what's absolutely essential about any additional recovery package is that we have the kind of pro-growth policies that president trump has been advancing. >> reporter: now, alicia, neither the vice president nor the president have any public events on their schedule today. we don't expect to see either of them on camera in any form and that's significant given that these large protests are expected just on the doorsteps of the white house later this afternoon and into the evening. we've heard from the president who has been active on twitter in the last 24 hours breaking his previous record, issuing more than 200 tweets and re-tweets, but nothing so far on
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the tens of thousands that will be here in a matter of hours. and we have seen this heightened security presence and police here near the white house grounds. you saw that fencing that went up just a few days ago. the fortress feel here can't be underestimated. it is extremely intense to walk into the white house and see such a perimeter and barrier to what is really known as the people's house this weekend, alicia. not so much for people coming to visit, but obviously for the protesters who are nearby and that black lives matter mural that went up recent rgs, the president wasn't weighed in on that, though he has criticized muriel bowser repeatedly, she named the street black lives matter plaza just in front of lafayette park. >> thank you. coming up, the president talked tough about using military force to stop civil unrest, but those comments drew criticism from some high-ranking
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we're following marches for equal justice happening across the country this saturday. these are live pictures out of chicago. i want to take you now to nbc's chris jansen in new york's washington square park where people have gathered. tell me what you are hearing from folks on the ground there. >> determination. i think that would be the one thing. look at the size of this crowd, and more people over here are just marching in. they have come off the street as we were driving here south. this is toward lower manhattan. we saw large groups of people. peaceful, many of them have been marching for a full week. many of them admit they're exhausted. some of them that i had spoken to yesterday said they were considering whether they needed to take a day off. but judging from the size of this crowd that goes all the way
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to the other side of washington square park, not many people have decided to stay home. and i should point out this is not the only place in new york where people are gathering. it's a very diverse crowd. it's a very active crowd. there have been different moments. there's been singing, there's been speeches. now they're chartistarting to c. you can listen to them for a minute. lots of signs that say "black lives matter." different signs for "silence is violence". many of them talking about police matters. there have been over the course of this week of protests in new york more than 1,000 people who have been arrested after curfew. now, many of them were arrested early on. but this is also a crowd where many people say they had to come
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out because they are against what they have seen as overly aggressive police tactics, that police are using the exact tactics on them, peaceful protesters, that got them here in the first place. in fact, there are two officers in new york city who have been suspended because they got caught on viral videos and others are being investigated. the question becomes what will happen to this crowd later today, how many of them will march, how many of them might decide to march after curfew. the fact of the matter is, what i'm seeing here is what i have been seeing since sunday. groups of people committed to ending racial violence, committed to social justice, who are peaceful. i'm looking right over there, they've brought their families, there's little children, i've seen pregnant women, even in the middle of a pandemic. some people say they hesitated to come out because of the pandemic, but this was just too important. even yesterday there was a group of doctors i spoke to.
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i said i was surprised to see them out, and they said most of the people are wearing masks and i think you can see that is true. and they just felt this was too important a message to send that they could not stop, and clearly these new yorkers are not stopping, alicia. >> determined indeed. thank you so much. attorney general bill barr is pushing back on the white house's narrative that it was barr himself who ordered law enforcement officers to clear protesters near the white house on monday. mounted police used pepper balls against peaceful protesters, garnering widespread condemnation. barr told the associated press friday that although he supported the decision, it was park police that dispersed the crowd. i'm joined my senior political reporter for the guardian. it seems like no one wants to take responsibility for this. what are you hearing behind-the-scenes? >> i mean, right now there's a
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strong sense of finger pointing. there is a sort of confusion and chaos among elected officials and lawmakers over how to balance between allowing these protests to happen without letting them get out of hand. and if you drive around dc, you will see most stores, restaurants are boarded up and not necessarily because they anticipate or are near these riots. it's just a strong sense of they don't know what's going to happen next right now. >> the park police are saying it was a mistake to claim this they didn't use tear gas on protesters, and that they used pepper balls that contain an eye irritant. how much pressure was there behind the scenes for them to initially deny that? >> a ton of pressure. we saw the president himself pushing back against claims of them using tear gas, a lot of the trump campaign issuing a
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statement to correct their story. there were fact checks and we saw the park police say it was a mistake to deny that they used this. so a lot of miscommunication about what was used. at the end of the day, chemicals were used, peaceful protesters were forcibly removed from the area outside of the white house while the president went over to visit saint john's church for the photo op and they're seeing a lot of criticism. i've talked to a lot of the president's advisers who are privately very concerned about his handling of the arrest and what it may do for his re-election in november. a lot of aides keeping a close eye on that and something that the lot of the people close to him in the white house are worried about. >> daniel, there was good news in the jobs report, unemployment still hovering around 13%, which is lower than the 20% some thought was possible, but also a
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lot of alarming numbers. black unemployment rose, black youth unemployment. what does it say to you that the president chose to ignore those numbers? >> the president really wants to turn the page and highlight some kind of good news and move to positives. for months he's been saying that the economic forecast will improve dramatically in the last few months of this year. but a 20% unemployment rate is incredibly high. the thing is, unemployment rate among african-americans and highlighting that or calling attention to that really cuts into a key aspect of the president's re-election strategy, which is to rally over black voters who may be unsure or unwilling to vote for joe biden and seeking some kind of alternative. that's probably a tiny swath, but high unemployment numbers among african-americans doesn't help that push. >> at the same time, you have democratic leadership inside of the senate saying that they're
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concerned that this jobs report and the way the jobs report is being framed is going to lesson appetite to pass another stimulus relief package. what are you hearing from republicans on the hill? >> they mentioned they don't want republican lawmakers to become complicit by the victory lap yesterday regarding the unemployment numbers. but daniel is exactly right, having 13%, or 16% in may, those are grim numbers for people who are out of work and you can't be complacent and there is concern that republicans and others are going to have less appetite now to pass a fourth stimulus bill to help and it's going to be something to watch, the economy, as cities begin to reopen, if the economy can catch up. if not, we'll see how they
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handle this. >> daniel, so many people have contextualized what we're seeing in the streets as the pandemic in the middle of a pandemic. then you take these job numbers and you add to what we're talking about, to the health crisis that america is facing, to this conversation around police brutality, these unemployment numbers. how do they all factor together to complicate the picture of what we are seeing on the streets? >> we're really in uncharted territory. we've seen moments like this. there have been a lot of comparisons to protests in the 1960s. but there's never been sort of an active protest movement like this among a global pandemic. and it's really caused a high level of confusion and disorientation. not only in how to campaign if you're a presidential campaign or a statewide or congressional campaign, but really how to protest, how to organize, and how to listen to demands and the concerns of protesters.
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i've never seen anything like this and every source i talk to tells me that we are in uncharted territory. >> when you talk to republicans on the hill, are they watching these protests? what are they making of the fact that they've lasted for 12 days, that they have continued to grow? what are they understanding about what is happening? >> from my conversations with republicans on the hill and their aides as well, i think there's a bit of a mix. some people are trying to rally around the president and the white house and be supportive of their crackdown measures, his law and order approach to handling these protests. but then others definitely sympathize with what's happening. they recognize there's a lot of unrest, that what happened to george floyd was terrible and that of course these protests aren't just about george floyd. it was the match that lit these massive protests around the country and years of oppression that black people have faced and
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i think republicans understand that. but they are trying to toe the line between being supportive of what's happening around the country while also not undermining president trump and his policies at the white house. >> thank you both so much. the national guard tweeted a short time ago that today more than 43,000 of its members in 34 states, plus washington, d.c., are assisting law enforcement authorities with ongoing civil unrest. i want to bring in retired u.s. army brigadier general mark kimmett. thank you so much for being here. i want you to listen to what some prominent military leaders are saying about the president's threat to use the military against americans. take a listen. >> you're not going to use -- whether it's a military or the national guard or law enforcement to clear peaceful american citizens for the president of the united states to do a photo op. there is nothing morally right about that. >> the idea that the military would be called in to dominate
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and to suppress what, for the most part, were peaceful protests, admittedly where some had appeturned them violent andt the military would come in and calm that situation was very dangerous to me. >> i understand that was a peaceful protest that was disturbed by force and that's not right. that should not happen in america. so i was sad. we should all shed tears over that particular act. >> brigadier general, your reaction? >> well, first of all, i've got great respect, i served with those four officers. i also think it's somewhat unhelpful to try to suggest that a police action, which was conducted by the police inside lafayette square has some how painted the u.s. military. that's not what the u.s. military does. they know that. and i'm not worried about our u.s. military getting involved in this.
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they know the right thing to do. >> you had "the new york times" reporting today that it was the pentagon that ordered those national guard helicopters to fly low over protesters in dc. what is your opinion of that show of force? >> well, first of all, they were given the mission to provide persistent presence. that doesn't need to be at a low level. army secretary ryan mccarthy has already called for an investigation. i don't know all the facts, but i certainly hope they get to the bottom of it. i've seen that happen in iraq, i've seen that happen in afghanistan. that's not to provide live television to the operation center. that's meant to intimidate the people on the ground and possibly harm them. i don't want to pre-judge the outcome, but that's not the rules of engagement and that kind of knuckle headed operation by the pilots ought to be seriously investigated. >> and we know that there is
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going to be an investigation. what are the sort of core questions that need to be asked in the context of that investigation? >> tell us what your orders are, tell us what the rules of engagement you were operating under. why did you feel it necessary, given one mission to provide observation, you felt it necessary to go to low level? these are pretty obvious questions for any military panel. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. brigadier general, appreciate your time. these mass protests are not contained to the united states. how they're showing solidarity around the world and at the heart of these protests, a debate over policing. we'll take a look at some of the solutions and the political will necessary to make them a reality. a unique tri-layer supplement that calms you, helps you fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer great sleep comes naturally with sleep3.
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police officers who were filmed pushing a 75-year-old protester to the ground were charged with second-degree assault. they both pled not guilty. with me now is nbc news correspondent raheem ellis in buffalo. we do not have her, so we are going to come back to her in just a little bit. instead, we are going to go to msnbc correspondent and also the author of "the end of policing". you're looking around at what some cities are doing. some cities are considering measures that may limit the use of police. are there police forces that are having conversations or rather are there municipal governments that are having conversations that look more like the contours of the de-funding debate? >> certainly, the minneapolis city council just this week voted to ban choke holds and also make it responsibility of other officers who witness such illegal choke holds that ended mr. george floyd's life, they
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have to report those. there are activists and politicians and policymakers all across the country right now examining police policy on the very granular level. let's not forget the eric garner case in new york. choke holds were already banned in new york city when officer pantaleo but eric garner in a choke hold. but there are bigger reforms also. there are people thinking about how to shift money from the police department into the community. just this week mayor garcetti announced a $150 million shift from the police budget into communities of color. so while there is a range of policy being debated, there are some simple things that activists say could help, like a de-escalation. police departments don't always require that officers actually try to de-escalate situations, that they don't fire at moving vehicles. but also better reporting. we simply don't know how many people, police officers across the country kill each other. there's no mandate that says the
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police departments have to submit those numbers to the federal government. so there's a lot of momentum behind a lot of reform, and there is a bill from 2019 named after eric garner that will federalize the ban on choke olds. so there's certainly a lot happening, alicia. >> alex, you heard that mayor eric garcetti is cutting $150 billion from the nypd budget to direct to other programs. i wonder what you make of that announcement. >> i think it's a positive movement. we've also seen london breed pledge that in san francisco. they're signaling a major reduction in the nypd budget which we've been calling for in new york and i think really this is the new frontier for trying to do something about abusive policing. we've had six years since the death of eric garner and sandra
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bland and mike brown and so many others and these procedural reforms, too many of them there's no evidence to support them. they appear to be a kind of window dressing. and even when there is some evidence behind them, they don't get fully implemented. the officers in milwaukee had de-escalation training. they had anti-bias training, they had training that mandates that they intervene when they see misconduct, and none of it worked. >> the mayor of saint paul, minnesota, noted the importance of hiring people who understand the communities that they're going to be working in. take a listen. >> if you have to train someone not to do the things that we've seen these officers do on these videos, then they don't belong on a preeolice department in th first place. it starts with how we hire, who we hire, if they're people who understand and know our community and who feel comfortable and safe in our community to start with. >> how much does this factor
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into how the police interact with the community that they police? >> on a day-to-day basis from department to department, from city to city, there may be some in pulling the community and police department together where there is mistrust. but this is bigger than just individual officers. it's bigger than what a department can do in terms of just having black officers. let's not forget during slavery there were also black overseers and we've seen black police officers be accused of some of the same kind of brutality that we've seen white officers accused of committing. so while it can help, there is a call for more systemic, and root causal kind of changes in the police department from a systemwide basis and that's where we get into the conversation of defunding or shifting funding from the police department. a bigger change than the come flexion of the officers involved. >> is there a role for police unions to play in this?
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>> well, unfortunately their union has been mostly really negative. and one of the most exciting developments this week has been the campaign in new york to get local elected officials to reject their past contributions from police unions, i think over now 15 elected officials in new york have gone back, gotten their police union donations and turned them over to bail funds and mutual aid projects. i think we have to try to move those unions out of the political conversation and start talking about how to get elected officials to take direct responsibility for their decision to over-rely on policing all across the country. >> thank you both so much. with me now is nbc news correspondent rahema ellis. with more charges today against the buffalo police officers, what can you tell us on the charges today? >> reporter: i can tell you, alicia, two officers were both
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charged with assault, second-degree assault. it's a second-degree felony, a class d felony. it's a felony because of the age of the person who was victimized in this case, allegedly. a 75-year-old man. and according to the law, if the person who is accused of the crime is less than ten years younger than the victim, it ends up a felony case. both of those officers pleaded not guilty. they were released without bail and allowed to leave the courthouse at that point. as you know, they have been suspended with pay from the police department. and in a show of solidarity to those officers, the 57 members of the emergency response unit, which these officers were a part of, they have resigned from their positions. they're still on the police force, but they've resigned from their positions because they think these officers should not have been brought up on any
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charges whatsoever as a result of what we see on this video. this 75-year-old man being pushed to the ground. his head slamming up against the concrete and then you see blood coming from his head and from his ear. he was taken to the hospital. we understand that, according to his attorney, he is alert and conscious and it seems that he's going to be okay. but it was a very frightening incident there that happened on thursday in buffalo. and now these two officers are facing those charges. alicia. >> all right, thank you. we're looking at live pictures in london where it's about 7:30 in the evening. police are in a standoff with protesters about an hour ago. we saw shoving and pushing between police and protesters there. we'll continue to monitor the situation. amid all of these protests, there is still a pandemic with coronavirus. why doctors are trying to raise the alarm about a possible resurgence of covid-19. the first and only full prescription strength
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we need to remind people it is always free, it's easy, it's fast and it's coming to you. if you have been at one of these protests, i want to strongly urge you to get tested. it has been a real concern that people have guaathered in close proximity. >> experts say testing, tracing and social distancing are some of the keys to controlling the spread of the coronavirus. as the country grapples with mass protests, let's bring in
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founder and ceo of advancing health equality. doctor, happy to see you as always. there's a political headline this week i want to get your take on. suddenly public health officials say social justice matters more than social distancing. you have more than 1,000 workers saying the protests are worth the risk of a possible covid-19 surge. your take? >> i was actually one of those health care workers that signed that letter in solidarity and in gratitude with the protesters. the fact is what we're seeing in terms of police violence and the racial disparities and the covid-19 pandemic are all deeply rooted in structural racism. so essentially protesters are protesting against racism and those protesters are going to be out there. we know this. so what we encourage is that protesters engage in public health strategies that are tried and true. we should wear masks, they should try to socially distance,
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stay with their cohorts. they should also wear eye protection as well. they should also try not to share food with other people or drinks. >> well, that is what protesters need to do on their side in order to contain the spread. what is the responsibility of law enforcement officials who are also at these protests? >> that's a great question because it seems like police tactics are actually encouraging transmission of coronavirus, using tear gas, using respiratory -- sorry, tear gas and pepper spray, which are respiratory irritants, can cause increased sneezing, increased coughing and watery eyes and those all will increase the risk of transmission of coronavirus. also pushing groups into smaller areas, putting people into police vans and into jails. we know coronavirus spreads like wildfire in those sorts of situations. so police are going to have to
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look at how their strategies are encouraging the transmission of coronavirus. >> you talked to the house of representatives this week about racial disparities in coronavirus infections and you tweeted that the experience left you more deeply worried about the fate of black people in this country. what happened? >> well, i was concerned about talk about the disparities not being rooted in structural racism, which is social and economic policies that have disadvantaged black people, but rather there was talks about genetics and also about hypertension just sort of being natural to black people. and i'm concerned that the committee is not going to address the fact that black communities have been marginalized and disinvested in. and one of the strategies we're seeing is re-investing in black communities in terms of housing, in terms of jobs and in terms of
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education, because those are the structural determinants that will influence the health outcomes of these communities. >> dr. blackstock, thank you as as well as. it is impossible to avoid these protests and they can be confusing for children. up next, how to talk to your kids about racism in america and why it's more important than ever. you can be tain of. the men and women of the united states postal service. we're here to deliver cards and packages from loved ones and also deliver the peace of mind of knowing that essentials like prescriptions are on their way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you. and we always will.
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as we continue to follow protests across the country, we've also got our eye on raeford, north carolina where members of george floyd's family are having a private service, expected to get under way moments from now. he's to be lauid to rest later this week in houston, texas. this has cause us to have discussions about race and racism in america, including
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with our children. joining me is nina harris. this book would have felt timely in many moment, it's a great story, you did it, it is out, it's a great story about your mom, maya, your aunt, kamala, and how as children they organized together for a community playground. what do you want the children who read it, the adults who read it with them to take away? >> yes, who could have imagined i would be released my first children's book under these circumstances. but in many ways it feels like we have at the moment and it feels more needed than ever. what i want kids to take away from it, i'm going to show the cover again, i have it here with me, is that if you have a big idea, you can come together and lean on your community and figure out how to make positive change happen. and the central message of the book is that none of us can do
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everything, but all of us can do something, and it's up to all of us to play a role, to make contribution, whether that is standing up and speaking out or going to a protest or making a donation to a black-led organization, each of us can do our part and should do our part. i was taught in my family each of us has a responsibility and that why i wrote this book, i want to pass the message and values to the children and in this moment i want to pass it on to children all over the world. >> you have two little girls of your own, what are the conversations you're having with them in this moment? >> we're talking really honestly with them. i have a 2-year-old and an almost 4-year-old. and the 4-year-old we're talking to a lot about the fact that people are upset and angry and that's why they are marching and shouting and fighting for their civil rights and for, you know, the -- their first amendment
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rights and teaching them what protests means. and it's kind of awesome that i have this book and i can literally turn the page and say there's a picture of my grandma, and you know what she did, she was a protester. she was a part of the civil rights movement. what we're seeing right now is really important, i want you to pay attention. we're having these conversations, it's breaking it down for a 4-year-old, what's going on, and books like this i think can be incredible tools to do that. there are a lot of universal lessons about speaking up and doing your part and i'm about to contextualize it for them what's going on right now. >> meena, you are a mom, you are a small business owner, how are you approaching this moment both as a consumer and as entrepreneur? >> man, i'm exhausted. i'm doing anything i can. i think, you know, for me
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personally i, as i said before, i'm donating to black led organizations, i'm lifting up the work as much as i can as black activists and leaders, in the black lives matter movement such as alicia garza. we launched a fund-raising campaign to sell sweatshirts that say black lives matter last week. and using my voice, educating my audience, answering questions, explain what defund the police means, how we can all get behind systemic change. i think there's a lot to do, and i'm trying to do whatever i can with my own platforms and from my own sphere of influence to raise awareness, to raise money and support black-owned businesses. we have a campaign with independent bookstores across the country to make sure that
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people are supporting them in this great time of need where a lot of them are struggling to stay in business. and as part of that we compiled a list of block-owned bookstores across the country that we're encouraging people to support in this moment. >> the book is "kamala and maya's big idea," thank you meena so much. >> thank you for having me. that wraps it up for this hour. my colleague, joshua johnson takes over at the top of the hour. he'll speak with the mayor of st. paul and his efforts to combat issues in his city. and at 4:00 combatting racism in america here on msnbc. 4:00 comn america here on msnbc. it all ships free. and with new deals every day
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it's continuing across america. protests in the wake of the killing of george floyd at the hands of a minneapolis police officer. you're looking now at washington d.c. at one of the streets that leads directly to the white house. it's been the site to have some of the largest protests in the country. los angeles is also the site of some of the nation's larger protests. there's a long line of demonstrators on the streets there as well. wherever you are across the country, i bid you good day i'm joshua johnson it's great to be with you today from nbc news world headquarters in this new york. those scenes are part of this
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