floyd was not the first one but he should be the last. >> we all have a right to live and pursue life, liberty and

happiness. >> i've been marching since 1967. okay? i'm a former black panther party member from oakland, california. so i've been in the fight a long time ago and this is still about the dream. it's still about martin luther king's dream. >> from day until night and back again. thousands protesting racism and police brutality in cities across this country. it is sunday, june 7th. welcome. i'm alex witt. entering the third week since the killing of george floyd in minneapolis and crowds of protesters continue to grow across this country. heave's a breer leak at the scoons yesterday from coast to coast. demonstrations lasting in to the night. most peaceful. in portland, oregon, some skirmished broke out when police used projectiles to push back a crowd outside the justice center. in seattle, confront, as between

police and protesters led to this -- [ sounds of flashbangs ] >> scary scene there as police tried to break up that crowd. we saw know standoff in frederick, maryland. police there blocked protesters from blocking interstate 70 leading to an hour-lon standoffs but no arrests j arrests. large crowds on the golden gate bridge in san francisco. protesters took a knee for 8:46, the length of time an officer's knee was on george floyd's neck. a similar scene on new york city's brooklyn bridge yesterday by protesters who marched against police brutality and systemic racism. meanwhile in washington, d.c., protesters lingered late into the night near the white house.

the mayor of minneapolis, the city that spawned the movement, says she's protests give him hope. >> i think we are all coming to grips with our collective brokenness right now. and i know i certainly am. and i think it's incumbent on all of us, leaders, mayors, governors, communities, police chiefs to channel that collect uv pain and anger we are seeing right now into collective action. this is a moment in time when we can all as a united front rise up and say that this system, this racist system needs change and it needs to happen now. >> while hope shared by the doctor and michael gordon, see them tying the knot in philadelphia. forget the honeymoon. said i do and stepped outside to join the protests. we have a team following the latest for us this hour. a new day in protests in new

york city today after largely peaceful demonstrations went through last night and into this morning. now new york governor andrew cuomo is offering a plan to stop police violence. what is in the say their name reform bill that's proposed by governor cuomo? something other states could follow? >> reporter: yeah. actually the governor wants this to be a national moment for change and for new york to lead the way. there are four cornerstones of the say their name agenda, alex that include more transparency when officers are disciplined. no chokeholds, no false 911 reports based on race and for an independent investigation through the attorney general's office at the state level for police murders. now, the governor also spoke on his goals and when he'll begin all of this in his press conference yesterday. take a listen to what he had to

say. >> new york is going to seize the moment. the legislature's going to come back next week. we have the say their name agenda, transparency of prior disciplinary actions for police officers. the 58 bill. no chokeholds. no chokeholds. how many times do you have to learn the same lesson? no false race-based 911 reports. the attorney general is an independent prosecutor for police murders, which i did as an executive order five years ago. let's codify it. so it's not up to the next governor to decide whether or not they want to do it. it will be in the law. >> reporter: thousands protested yesterday, of course, peacefully in the city of new york. they were in different spots happening over the brooklyn bridge as we mentioned and union park. and this followed nypd's

briefing in which they let the public know there wa been an extreme uptick in extremist groups and inincendiary -- tryi to take advantage of the situation. from those who sought to incite violence and not peacefully protest they've made some 470 felony arrests but able to la e largely avoid that yesterday and kales yesterday for nypd not to enforce curfew. yesterday was the first day they did not allow it allowing protesters to stay out past 8:00 p.m. another rally is scheduled for noon, we will be there. >> and we'll follow that with your help. thank you so much, cori coffin. protesters are calling on officials to defund the minneapolis police department in the wake of the george floyd death. what's the latest on this?

>> reporter: alex, good morning. this has been a movement we've seen rise within the past week or so. we know mayor jacob frey was elected and wanted to repair the relationship between the community and the police department, but yesterday, alex, a stunning scene played out with frey right in the middle of it. there were probably at least 1,000 supporters there protesting near the mayor's own home. basically calling on him to publicly come out and say that he would advocate for the defunding for the department, and what ended up happening was frey not saying that publicly, and this scene playing out. take a listen. [ chanting ]

>> all: sin! sin! sin! sin! sin! sin! sin! >> reporter: you can hear that repeated call of "shame, "shame" as he ended up having to leave that scene. we're awaiting official word from the mayor and his spokespeople. meantime at that intersection where george floyd lost this life on that fateful monday and supportering working to keep this ground sacred, if you will. we have those that are armed because they feel safer protecting themselves that way here at this intersection than trusting the police. meantime a storm rolled through this area overnight and the hundreds of messages, thousands, rather, written on the ground and signs people have brought were all covered up with plastic tarps to keep that tribute to george floyd alive and well here in this area.

we do know protests are expected today in minneapolis. however, no locations have yet to be officially finalized. meanwhile, the body of george floyd has since arrived in houston, texas, ahead of tomorrow's memorial. the final memorial for george floyd before he is laid to rest in a private ceremony on tuesday. alex? >> morgan chesky, thank you so much for that. extraordinary scene you shared with us there with jacob frey. let's bring in eddie glaude, center for african-american studies and as msnbc contributor. edd eddie, welcome. what did you make of the picture of the mayor shamed out of the community? he looked like anybody else the way he was dressed, very casual and ushered out with pretty loud chants and opposition. >> yeah. it's a sign that the circumstances and the context of how we discuss policing in our community is radically changing.

alex, you know for most of our lives we have been confronted with a frame of how we think about policing in terms of being tough on crime, the war on drugs, and the overall discourse of law and order which led to a massive expansion of policing and particularly, a particular kind of policing. so what folks are trying to argue for is not so much tinkering around the edges but a fundamental change in the frame, and this involved the call for defunding. we see activists organizations like reclaim the block, mpt 150 on the ground in minneapolis really pushing the argument for kind of justice reinvestment, which has been a long-term activist kind of grass roots effort to change the way we conceive of policing in the country, and the "game of thrones" reference with shame, shame, shame, not too much -- i don't -- you know, i understand what they're saying but i understand the argument. the argument they're trying to make and the mayor needs to take it much more seriously.

>> yeah. all right. let's get to the idea of defunding that is gaining traction and sounds extreme and those might get the impression it means getting rid of police departments entirely. what is your understanding how this would actually work, eddie? >> well, again, displacing the frame. justice's reinvestment involve, right, scaling down the budget allocation to police. we've been expanding the role of police, homelessness, criminalized. right? drug addiction, instead of seeing that as a health care issue. seeing it as a criminal issue. we talk about housing, schools, mental health, social services. police have been asked to do too much and their budgets have swollen as a result. in the context of say, minnesota, they're calling for a $45 million reduction in the police budget, and to redirect those funds to services around

schools, around employment, around mental health saying that public safety involves more than simply policing folk and throwing them in jail. that's an argument we have to make, because our budgets, our budgets, alex, reflect what we value. if we're allocating, for example, 54% of our budget as they do in los angeles, to policing and not to schools and mental health, right? and housing and employment and the like, then we know where our valuing lie. >> yeah. and i think it's even harder to believe it's up to 60% in minneapolis of that overall budget. how would it affect police reform that most would like to see take place across the country. this defunding proposition? >> why is it thought of as necessarily oppositional? right? it doesn't make any sense to me that you can talk about rediverting funds to a broader sense of public safety, around people's well-being and still talk about banning chokeholds.

to talk about mental health and social services not being the responsibility of police and still talk about transparency. right? still talk about 911 calls. ban 911 calls and the like. none is exclusive. folk want to believe we must have a form of policing because there's a general assumption about certain people in our country. particularly the black foam. thi black folk. this will be a clamoring for this kind of policing. we need to break the back of that discourse and break the back of that frame to imagine public safety any a broader kind of way. >> yeah. >> that's my view. >> eddie, i just want to let folks know, they see the lower third banner. mayor bill de blasio at 7:02 is lifting the curfew immediately

for new york city. how do you think that will affect protesters? >> well, i mean what we have witnessed, i think, is a great idea. what we have witnesseds is that the curfew provided a condition for escalation. and we've seen the way in which police have decided across the country to enforce curfew, and i've said over and over again on this network, alex, that what we are seeing minus the tear gas and rubber bullets is in ways of orientation of the police to black communities every day. there is contempt. there is insult. there is spite. and each encounter is fraught with the fact that the person enforcing the curfew has the legal authority to use deadly force. so part of what we're trying to do and argue when we talk about decriminalizations, for example, is decrease the kind of encounters between lis and everyday ordinary citizens. ending the curfew is one way to decrease the encounter under

these very historic conditions i've never seen during the course of my study, this sustained level of protests in america's streets. >> which brings me to this, eddie. that being the president's tweet last week that his administration has done more for the black community than any president since abraham lincoln and added the words, "lowest black unemployment, poverty and crime rates in history and the best is yet to come." here's a question. to whom is he sending that message, eddie, and does anyone believe it? >> i have no idea. that is just dumb. i just -- i mean, he says it over and over again and it makes no sense. i suppose it's a kind of, you know, way of saying to the listeners of fox news and viewers of fox news that he's doing these things for these black folk and they're ungrateful and still out here clamoring, because they don't want to take personal responsibility, they always want someone to hand things to them.

it's nonsense. it's on its face untrue, and we need to just simply dismiss it for what it is. just a bald faced lie, alex. >> who do you think was the best president for the african-american community? >> you know, that's a question that is difficult to answer. and i'll leave that to the historians. i'm a cultural critic. i don't want to step into that. >> all right. before you go, eddie, last week you were here, and it was a very sad and somber moment for this country. one week later now. how do you see things today? where are we now? >> you know, i'm a country boy from the coast of mississippi. a small town called mosspoint and the coast is facing another storm, and growing up and experiencing hurricanes, there's always the eye of the storm. and the eye of the storm is a bit of calm. you can walk out and you can assess the damage. you can get a sense of what you need to do. i think we're in the eye of the

storm right now. still some winds. still some rumbling, but we still have the tail of the storm and the tail is as violent as the front end. i mean by that we still have to deal with the impact of possible community spread of the coronavirus. we still have to deal with the impact of unemployment as the real numbers begin to come out and we see the disproportionate areas of communities, particularly the black community. we still have to deal with the trial bep have seen in the past officers arrested and seen that go to trial and we've seen those officers acquitted. so we need to see how the process will work out. i don't think there is, shall we say, unshakable faith that the process will be fair. we are still in the eye of the storm, alex. we need to brace ourselves and begin to think about long-term changes and how we approach policing in this country and how we think about racial justice in this country. >> eddie glaude, how i would love to take a class from you but i'm grateful i and my

viewers have an opportunity to talk to you in this venue. have a good sunday, my friend. >> thank you. and coming up, why the supreme court may be taking a second look. it all ships free. and with new deals every day you can explore endless options at every price point. get your outdoor oasis delivered fast so you can get the good times going. ♪ wayfair. you've got just what i need. ♪ did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance ta-da! so you only pay for what you need? i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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more protest expected today in the capital. go to my colleague monica alba joining us live from d.c. monica with a good morning. this may have been d.c.'s largest demonstration yet over the death of george floyd. tell us what happened. >> reporter: that's right, alex. the organizers actually couldn't put a cap on the number of people expected, and that's largely actually due to the ongoing pandemic, because the national park service can't take, accept or approve permits right now. sort of a sign of the dual crises we find ourselves in. the president's only army

secretary anticipated that between 100,000 and 200,000 people would show up yesterday, which would have been the largest gathering we've seen so far. we didn't hear much from the president until late in to the evening when he actually tried to diminish the size of the crowd saying it was smaller than anticipated in a couple of tweets and trying to blame the media, in his own words, for trying to enflame the crowds, but i have to tell you, i was out there yesterday and at the white house, and we didn't see any signs of that. it was incredibly peaceful. it was large. it was robust. it really did feel at some points like a party and a celebration with a lot of music. a real contrast to what we had seen earlier in the week, and that comes now as we see less of a law enforcement presence and why you don't have so many of those confrontations, but the president there trying to take credit away, it seems, from the protesters who so many have come out to actually come out against

his policies an to demand more action. in the last couple of weeks he's been asked to talk about systemic racism and what he plans to do about police brutality and hasn't given specifics. those questions remain unanswered. no public addresses yesterday and none on the schedule for today and advisers told him it wouldn't be a good idea to go this weekend to his new jersey golf resort in bedminster as he planned to do because of potential for bad optics. you see the split screen of the president golfing while tens of thousands descend on the steps of the white house. he opted not to do that. we should note, he is expected to be in bedminster next weekends, back on the campaign trail doing a fund-raiser for his 2020 campaign, alex. >> all right. trump tweets, true to his typical tenor. thank you so much, monica alba. turning to the case against the officers involved in george

floyd's death. derek chauvchauvin, the officer knelt on floyd's neck nearly 9 minutes happens tomorrow. msnbc legal analyst with us, good morning to you. what can we expect to see tomorrow? >> reporter: it will be short. he's been arraigned on the first set of charges already. this is the second set of charges for arraignment. they may discuss bail but relatively short. i don't expect that much, frankly. they'll be some scheduling. what a when are we doing discovery, when will we exchange information? that sort of thing and then set the next court date. >> what are your thoughts on the upgrade from third to second-degree murder and will it make it more difficult to prosecute and get a conviction? >> reporter: no. because of the minnesota statute allowing felony further more

aggravated assault. also the other officers are charged bun officer cooperating the entire time, even before arrested. the other two are pointing their fingers at chauvin and saying he was our training officer. we'd only been on a-of-tthe job couple of days and should have known better the problem is they should have known better. he was dieing under their control, did nothing to alter the behavior even though he doesn't have a pulse, i'm concerned about other things. they never lifted their weight off his back or took their weight off his legs and never said, he's in trouble and helped frrchlts . >> from a humanity standpoint they should have saw. derek chauvin was a training officer. one on his third shift ever as a police officer the other his

four day typically in a full-fledge police officer shift. so, they're having to call him sir, i might add. so is there a defense from their point of view that they're saying this is kind of our boss on the scene. >> you know, there's a defense if -- this way. if it happened quickly. it didn't happen quickly. they had nine minutes to protect and serve and they didn't do it. so, no. that will not -- they can make the defense, they can go for the pity defense and try to get that one juror, but morally, ethically and legally they had nine minutes. raised their hand to protect and serve and didn't do it. this man was dieing in front of them and they couldn't bother to lift a finger to save him. so, yes. they're going to make the argument and make it forcefully, i doubt it will be effective. i predict more than that is that eventually they will plead guilty and testify against chauvin. having tried cases against police officers i used to prosecute them, the best way to convict them is with other

police officers. this guy chauvin no doubt, has a reputation. there were conversations between these two rookies and him as they put him in the ambulance. i'm sure conversations after. there is a treasure-trove of evidence to be found about his relationships with them, and my guess is they will have succumb to some plea agreement. >> let me ask you about this. the supreme court is deciding whether to revisit qualified immunity for law enforcement officers and can announce that decision as soon as tomorrow. can you explain what is qualified immunity and how does that apply to what's happening now? >> yes. nothing to do with criminal law. no immunity in prosecutions. has to do with civil cases. that's what it has to do with money damages. the rule is, you can't be sued unless you violate a clearly

established law that a reasonable officer should have known. so, for example, what officers say is, well, i used the chokehold but in my department the chokehold's okay. or i was originally taught the chokehold was okay. and the law is jumbled on chokeholds, strangle holds a knee to the neck. so there is a big push for the supreme court to overturn qualified immunity. the other just as easy, quite frankly, make a clearly established law a reasonable officer would know. you may not put your knee on someone's neck, choke or strangle them. so that's a clear way to deal with it, but obviously, this is being revisited. >> yeah. i will say listening to governor cuomo, no more chokeholds, i don't know how more clearly to say it. there you have it. >> has to be by jurisdiction. >> thank you for that clarification. good to see you. here's a different take how police brutality can be prevented. hearing from two british police

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protests in london got heated between demonstrators and police. it happened at the end of a march saturday near the offices of prime minister boris johnson. here's how one reporter described the scene. >> reporter: it was clear the situation had take an very worrying turn. flares set off. objects thrown at officers guarding downing street. within minutes, fully equipped public order teams moved in to protect the downing street gates. >> and here's a business more from nbc's helena humphrey. >> reporter: these high-ranking veterans of london's met pro tall tin police might no have the an overnight solution to issues confronting u.s. police but they know what they change. >> if the president actually thought about the communities as opposed to "a" community,

there's something he could do. he could say to team, do not use the knee hold. >> reporter: as a commanding officer questioning the entire operation surrounding george floyd's arrest. >> why somebody else who hadn't been involved in that altercation with a level head didn't say, all right, let's get him up. are you going to be okay now? >> reporter: for these police, verbal communication is the first and often only weapon to de-escalate a situation. >> hurns of weapons. never actually fired a gun. >> friends in the states scared if they go out in the streets will be shot. >> the rest of america looks at america and thinks, my god. these people are crazy. why keep having incidents shootings are happening and no change? doesn't make sent. >> reporter: concerned over president trump's response. >> say to people we're out in gow to get the army out, tex

tensions rise. when tensions rise we need to get calm and actually get people working with us. >> reporter: while the uk doesn't always get it right, sue hill believes this provides a solid foundation. >> start treating your public and the people you serve with dignity, respect an compassion. >> america is now, really needs to take a hard look at itself and ask, why does this keep on happening? >> reporter: but this arresting question is not for these former police officers in the uk to solve. >> let's go to texas now and reports about a 5-year-old girl in houston that went viral. in the last few days when she was confronted by a police officer as a protest after approached him crying asking, are you going to shoot us? joining me to talk about this moment congressman al green a democrat from texas. congressman, good to see you, sir. you know, this back and forth between this little girl and a police officer, she said are you going to shoot us? then he knelt down and he said to her, no.

i'm here to protect you. she asks, can i protest? and he says, you can protest, you can demonstrate. you can do all that. just don't break anything. what went through your mind as you saw that moment? >> well, i must tell you, it is one of those moments that sort of captivates your heart when you hear a baby, 5-year-old girl, a baby, asking the most potent questions of our time. the questions that have caused us to find ourselves in this moment that we are currently having to deal with. and it -- it caused me to do this. to contemplate what his answer happened to be. as long as you don't break anything. well, i appreciate his saying this, as long as you don't break anything, but there should not be an assumption that peaceful protesters are going to break things. it really should not be assumed

and this is no disrespect to the officer but he could have said many other things to that baby to assure her that he was going to protect you. >> let me just -- i want to make sure the quote perfectly correctly. you can protest, you can march, just don't break nothing, he responded. also, apparently her father, the 5-year-old's father told them later that he concluded by saying to her, i have a daughter, too, and i want to get home to my daughter as well and that little girl told her daddy later, i didn't know police officers had kids. so it shows the mind of a 5-year-old, but the fact that she even had to ask that question, are you going to shoot us. >> yes. it was a profound question. it means that what we are experiencing now is being contemplated by babies. babies asking these questions of adults we would expect but a 5-year-old baby?

it says to us we must do something about what's going on right now. >> hmm, this is edmund pettus bridge moment. if you recall, when the marchers went across the bridge they were assaulted by police officers on horseback. well, but that caused the world to see what was happening in the united states. we were exposed at that point, and we have been exposed again, and this provides us the opportunity for the reform that you've been talking about this morning, to do something about police departments. people who are saying abolish the police department understands that in 1947 we had something called a war department in this country. and we decided that we would rather have a defense department. well, some people believe that the police are at war with our community, and we need to do something about this. we can have peace officers, not police officers as we currently

see them. and if we have peace officers, if we have law enforcement officers, people are okay with that. but they don't want the kind of policing we see now and i, quite frankly, join them. i don't want it either. so let's do something about it. let's reform what we call policing, and let's let it become, creating peace, a peace officers, much better than police officers and if you understand what's happening now you understand what i've just said, and i would also -- >> and reflect and agree with you certainly on that. a discussion about that. i also want to speak about houston's police chief, sir, who certainly won national praise for willingness to march with the protesters, but locals have been critical of him because of his record on police violence, calling him hypocritical. the protests in houston have been relatively peaceful but what is your assessment how the protests have been handled there in houston? >> the well, the protests in houston have been peaceful protests for the most part and

let me just share this with you. when we say peaceful protest that doesn't mean someone doesn't go to jail. dr. king wrote his letter from the birmingham jail. dr. king had been arrested. arrested for some minor violation. so peaceful protests, does sometimes require you to get in the way, as congressman john lewis puts it. and when that happens you go to jail. mr. lewis, somebody i admire has been to jail more than 30 times as i understand it. in fact, he and i went to jail together protesting. that's what happens when you protest, but in houston we have had persons protest peacefully because quite frankly all of the leadership for the most part has been saying let's have peaceful protests and the people themselves have wanted to have peaceful protests. we don't want to paint the police department way broad brush and say, all police officers are bad. well if a few people protesting should do something that we find antithetical to the movement we should not paint the entire

movement with the actions of a few. treat the protesters the same way we want the police to be treated. if we do this i think we can have a better understanding of why people are doing a what they're doing. can i add one more thing, please, before you dismiss me tme. this is very important. all of this is important, but what we will do about it is more important right now. people want to know, what are we going to do? a part of this, this resolution i filed. a resolution calling for a war on racism and discrimination. we can do it. president johnson declared a war on poverty. we can declare a war on racism and discrimination and to this end establish a department in the cabinet of the united states of america specifically designed to deal with racism and invidious discrimination. it's time to elevate this to the

highest level of government and have a secretary of reconciliation. we've got to move towards reconciliation in this country, which includes atonement. which means you can have a task force, commissions but we need a person whose job it is everybody day to go to work and try to come to some reasonable conclusion as to how we can end racism and invidious discrimination, which includes all other forms of discrimination, sexism, all of the various phobias, all can be dealt with, but we he's in thne department and report and report on ending racism and discrimination. end, not to mend or manage but try to end it. >> i do appreciate your time and thank you for sharing all of that for us. representative al green there in texas. breaking away. scary moments at a black lives matter protest when a police horse runs wild.

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black lives matter protests are expected to intensify around the uk today. this after thousands of protesters hit the streets yesterday in london. take a look at this video. protesters scrambling to get out of the way of a lone horse returning through the streets. that happened after the police officer riding fell off. joining me now, nbc's sarah harman in london once again. looks like the weather is better than yesterday. you were in that downpour during

that demonstration. ra-of-wh what are you hearing about the protesters and momentum of this movement? >> reporter: alex, this movement is gaining ground. we are about an hour out of today's rally beginning. perhaps quick update on that police horse. the met police tweeted the horse made it back on its own to the stable safely. the officer involved treated in the hospital for non-life threatening injuries. yesterday's protests were overwhelmingly peaceful. it was a small minority of demonstrators at the end doing things like throwing flares and bottles. i had the opportunity to speak with a young woman named olivia yesterday about her own experiences of racism here in the united kingdom. >> well, obviously in the uk police officers don't carry guns. so that element, it's less fatal. you're less likely to die under the house police brutality but

police more likely to be stopped for just walking along. minding your own business. more like, what are you doing here? rather than a white person or any other person coming down the street. as i was saying, more subtle. america people are more outspoken. here it's more subtle. more in the way police behave around black people. i just think it needs to change. >> reporter: and, alex, you saw how packed the crowds were yesterday in parliament square. this is still, of course, a country in the midst of a global pandemic that disproportionately affected the black community. the protesters we spoke to yesterday said while they were aware of the risk, they felt the cause was more important and willing to risk their own safety and health to make their voices heard. >> quite a scene yesterday. i'm sure another one today. sarah harman, thank you so much. a big, new poll from michigan breaking this morning. those details, next. those details, next. ♪ limu emu & doug

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questions? you can tweet them with hashtag #msnbcanswers or email us. our team will answer them at 3:00 eastern today. >> breaking news this hour. a new poll in michigan shows former vice president joe biden has increased his lead over president trump by 12 percentage points in that state. biden at 53, trump at 41. joining me, britney shepherd, national correspondent for yahoo news, and nicolas yu. does this have more to do with trump or biden or both? >> certainly, it's definitely to do with both. this poll doesn't exist in a silo. there are polls in reliably and recently red states like arizona, ohio, and wisconsin where biden is setting three to seven-digit leads. it's in the margin of error. a lot of the polling has been

taken in the midst of the double crises. police and racial crises and the ongoing mitigation of kroen coronavirus. they have taken diametrically different approaches. trump is focusing a lot more on quote/unquote law and order. his base seems to respond well to that. despite criticisms of biden hiding in his basement or not having a strong digital team, he's been able to make inroads with independent voters and that's a very vulnerable group for trump to be watching. >> what do you think is driving this? >> as britney was saying, we have seen a raft of polls over the last week showing trump's stature slipping not only among independent voters but also among key republican constituency, older voters. many of whom seem to see trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic might not be quite as good as they want especially given that it disproportionately

affects older people, and minority communities as well. so i mean, this key state that trump has to win, it looks like this might be more uphill climb for him. >> let's get to another poll to discuss. this one is discussing the nationwide protests, with 76% of americans viewing racism and discrimination a big problem in the united states. 57% say demonstrators' anger is fully justified. never in the history of modern polling has the country expressed such widespread agreement on racism's pervasiveness, and is this a step in the right direction and is this at least positive, this reaction? >> certainly, there has been a coalition built within the protests at least i haven't seen before. folks across all party lines and races. it's clear that there is a push for systemic reform that has

only really existed wichb minority communities unable to be amplified out by the media. so i think that in times of reckoning, you see coming together. and i think that the american people have had a long time to reflect, being in the house for 90 days plus trying to mitigate coronavirus. there's a lot of time for self-reflection. i think you're seeing that self-reflection and perhaps anger and anguish in the streets across cities. >> unfortunately, i'm out of time, and i'm certainly sorry for that, but that's going to do it for me. thank you so much. i'm alex witt, i'll see you again at noon eastern. up next on velshi, top law enforcement officials weigh in on changes needed, and alley is going to talk to the daughter of malcolm x about the movement sparked by george floyd's death. this is my body of proof.

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floyd was not the first one. but he should be the last. >> as the world prepares to bury george floyd, demonstrators remain vigilant, protesting for a 12th straight night. will police forces soon step up and heed the calls against the rampant brutalizing of black americans? two chiefs of police will try to answer that question. plus, right now, the country is consumed with protests, and before that, the coronavirus pandemic. we'll break down new polling numbers that indicate just how

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