hello. this hour we're following protests nation wide as they continue to grow. here is a live look at washington, d.c. where another large crowd is expected throughout the afternoon. we're in the 13th day of protests. the president says the national guard is no longer needed to keep the peace in washington. he said this morning the troops will leave the city. more live pictures from austin, texas and los angeles right now. demonstrators are calling for whole scale changes to policing in america. we'll talk about some of the policy solutions throughout this hour. we begin in nation's capital. ali, thousands marched peacefully across the city yesterday. what is the expectation for

today's crowds? >> reporter: this is the protest we have been watsi ingwaiting f day. we have seen hundreds of people outside the white house all day. around 3:00, protesters gathered in dupont circle and marched down to the white house. you can see around. i can't see an end to where this crowd is. it's spanning about four to six of these downtown city blocks. a lot of this crowd has stopped moving because of the fortification outside lafayette park. this has really been a gathering point for all of the days we have seen protests over the course of the last ten days. just a few minutes ago before we got on the air with you, the protesters all lied down on this city block over the black lives matter mural that was painted this week. they laid there for eight minutes, 46 seconds. that's the amount of time that george floyd was -- that the

officer had his knee on george floyd's neck. all of the people laying on the ground were chanting i can't breathe. i have to tell you, i could feel their words reverberating off of the buildings around me. it was such powerful moment. after they were done, they got back up. they started moving again. you can hear some of the chanting still happening around me. really, throughout this day, we have seen such range of emotion from protesters. parents out here with their kids say they wanted their kids to see this and feel hopeful about what the future could hold. other people showing moreso solemnness around the deaths of black men and women.

for nearly two weeks protesters have taken to the streets and their calls for change are ringing from coast to coast. according to a new poll, 59% of all voters, including 54% of whites, 65% of latinos and 78% of african-americans are more troubled by floyd's death and the actions of the police they than are by the protests. while the black community is well versed in america's violent history, for others the deaths of george floyd, breonna taylor and ahmaud arbery. nicole, talk to me a little bit about why it's important in this moment to not just talk about recent events but to truly

reckon with the past. why does this moment feel different? >> i think if we only look at the moment then we can pretend that this is not the manifestation of larger and centuries long inequalities that black americans have faced and that large numbers of white americans have acquiesed to. how did we get here? how did we get to the point where so many people are now entering the third week of protesting? we have to understand that history. it's really critical. how does this feel different? we have never seen this sustained period of these protests in every state of the country and the multiracial nature of these protests. i don't think there's another example in recent american history. >> i'm struck by the fact these are multiracial,

multigenerational protests. they are not just happening in big sdi cicities. we bring you the visuals of the big cities because those are the most striking but this is happening in little towns across america. it's happening in towns that are predominantly white. what should it tell us that we're seeing the protests over two week sns. >> this communicates there's concern about police violence outside of inner cities and predom nantsly black neighborhoods which has been the location of these conversations a in the most recent years. i've spoken to protesters in province town, massachusetts and tucson, arizona about the videos they are seeing of police officers responding to americans protesting peacefully excessively. one thing that's also important that has led to interest in this movement is that many americans come in contact with law enforcement but many white americans that i spoke with are

very aware and have admitted their interaction with police is very different from their black classmates and co-workers and fellow church goers and have seen the inequality in this system that they believe needs to change and can change now. that's why we're seeing a lot of emphasis on the move to defund policing and abolish law enforcement. >> the national guard will not be in d.c. any longer. that doesn't mean there is not law enforcement in play. we're seeing a rise in the use of military tactical gear without any markings to indicate their name, agencies or where they work. what is the danger there? >> it's couple different things. you have the fact that these people if their name is not available and you don't know their agency, if they do commit acts of brutality with these proteste protesters, you don't know who to reach out to have that addressed. on the flip side, these people,

they look like they could just be bystanders. given the fact that over the last few years, we see a rise in people in quisi military gear with very large weapons showing up at protests. it's either counter protesters or having protest themselves. if a person at one of these rallies is approached from someone with all black, no identifiers on them, if they are given a command and don't agree to it and are injured, that is -- that could be a huge spark point for even more clashes, even more violence on the streets. the fact that the department of justice is after being called out on this has still not said, all of you out there who are dressed out, dressed without your names being visible, they haven't changed that already is really troubling. >> nicole, you have utah senator mitt romney sharing a photo of his father, the former michigan governor, george romney

participating in a civcivil rig mar march. we must eliminate the problems from which they stem. you had a lot of really interesting contacts around this on twitter. i wonder what you make of that photo and that quote. >> well, i think what mitt romney is trying to do is get to the larger systemic issues that led people to take to the streets in first place. it's easy during this time to condemn destruction of property, condemn these up risings the it's much harder to say what causes a people to become so frustrated and to feel so hopeless that they have to take to the streets in their own country. george romney oversaw detroit during the largest and most expensive riot in the history of our country and also the deadliest. i had gone through his archives and saw that when citizens were saying just put out those riots with force, white citizens, let me clarify. pe he pushed back and said it's

not enough to repress this. we have to deal with what caused the decent in the first place. this seems like an obvious pushback for the trump administration and suppress the up risings and not deal with the fundamental issues at the core. >> this morning you had acting homeland security denying that systemic racism is a problem in policing. >> i do not think we have a system that racism problem with law enforcement officers across this country. do i acknowledge there are some law enforcement officers that abuse their job, yes. again, we need to hold those accountable. i would say that there are individuals in every profession across this country that probably abuse their authority in and they poiwer. we need to hold them accountable. >> can the challenges be addressed if those in power do not acknowledge the systems in place? >> it doesn't seem possible.

that's what activists have tried to bring attention to. efforts to hold police officers accountable for incidents that affect black people that suggest systemic racism is in multiple law enforcement across our country ha been unsuccessful that's why people are saying trying to address these bad apples is not the way to go moving forward. there has to be a complete u haul of how individuals respond to what is happening in police departments that is leading to situations like george floyd and breonna taylor and so many of these names we heard throughout the week. >> i wonder how you make sense of the fact that the national conversation has shifted so much in the last two weeks and at the same time there's a struggle in the u.s. senate to pass anti-lynching legislation.

how do you square those two realities? >> i square those two realities because the senate is an archain system. the fact that the conversation shifted so much over the last two weeks is striking. the fact we have three camps on the side of -- we have people for reform. people for defunding police departments and putting that budget elsewhere. people for abolishing the police department which -- the fact we have this range of options, basically, that legislators have to work out of, the window has shifted extremely far. further than most people who have been working on police reform and police brutality for the past few years ever could have guessed. i think part of that is due to the combination of factors at play here. not just the number of videos that we have seen of people

dying because that's been happening for years now but also the societal and economic pressures that the pandemic has brought on. people have been forced to stay at home and watch the economy crumble around them and the system that is upholding all of this is still brutalizing people in the midst of all this. all those factors taken together has produced this moment and what happens out of it will be fascinating to see. >> thank you all. live pictures from los angeles. let's get those up for you. it's one of the dozens of protests happening across america again today. we'll take you there, next. inside these protests. there is a youth movement. peel we'll talk about how this new generation is changing the dynamic. generation is changing e dynamic. e-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime.

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protests in the united states and abroad. this is the scene in london right now. to give you a sense of the scope of these solidarity protests, they also saw large crowds in berlin, madrid and hong kong today. here at home from coast to coast, people are taking to the streets to voice their support for equal justice. i'm joined by yasmin. jacob, we're looking at a different rally. tell us about it. >> reporter: we're walking east. when you think of a protest, this is what you think. protests that look good but when you drop back a little bit, this is a car caravan that stretches probably hundreds of cars long. it started at more than a mile

ago. all of these cars are following behind the protests. let's see if i can talk to one of them. how you doing? have you been in car caravan before? >> i'm not interested in talking. >> she doesn't want to be on tv. how you doing? >> good. >> you ever done anything like this before? >> always. >> tell me about what it means for you. >> [ bleep ] the system. >> you heard it right there. let me keep going back. i don't know how much more time we have. i think you are sampling of the signs. lgbtg for blm. it's a huge one.

>> all right. it's great to have you back. what is the scene there? >> reporter: we don't have the honking of the horns. thousands of folks chanting black lives matter. they have made their way down here. a really peaceful protest. a sit in. just folks talking with one another and wanting to fight racial injustice in this country. i have spencer and alex. spencer's sign says peace, truth, shalom. talk to me about what brought you out here. >> we all have to understand, as a community, that each and every one of us is united and one and to reject one part of the unity of man kind is to reject it all. as a jew, i take into consideration that the world

needs healing. to moses wife, she was black. i view the people of varying skin colors to be my family. i have to love them as i love myself and i try to make the world a better place. >> alex, what brought you out here today? >> specifically, fear of the wave of police brutality that has been breaking out around these almost entirely peaceful protests. the sort of opposition to people expressing the fact that people are literally dying. the fact that protests about police brutality were met with increased police brutality all over the united states is abhorrent. that's why i'm here. >> what type of police reform do you want to see? what would say to you this is real change? >> further training, licensing, more weapon training and

deescalation training and maybe no more david grossman seminars. no more killology. >> that's what you're really hearing here is it's all a message of unification. it's a message of police reform. it's a message of repeal 50a which is a law that con secealse records of police officer ifs they have infractions against them. it's incredible to see these thousands of folks that are marching for the city on this 12th day of protest not only here in new york but throughout the country. >> all right. thank you both so much. up next, young people are leading the way. we are seeing a new generation of leaders at these protests across the country. how is that changing the movement? we'll talk about it, next. a little later, former democratic presidential candidate joins me to talk about real policy solutions. what he thinks democrats should propose for the future of policing in america. e future of

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welcome back. protests and marches have been taking place across the country. this is a live shot from austin, texas. today to protest police brutality and honor the life of george floyd. as we head into november, there's so much chatter about whether young voters to turn up and turn out. the biden campaign knows they have work to do. looking at the primary, biden lost the youth vote at every super tuesday state even though that was a good flight for him overall. in recent weeks the campaign engaged this critical group of voters. if you've watched any of these protests there's no doubt young americans believe there's more than one way to make their voices heard. the massive rally at the golden gate bridge was organized by a 17-year-old. one of the many young leaders

pu pushing for systematic change. sarah i'm an old millennial. what they are calling a mortgage millennial. i look at generation z and they already made their voices heard. they were at the fore front talking about school shootings. talking about gun violence. i wonder as i watch these multiracial, multigeneration protests across the country what impact this moment is having on that generation's political awakeni awakening. >> thank you so much for welcoming me to the show. all of us are impacted by the major movements happening in our lives. for us as millennials, it's wars in iraq and afghanistan. it was the fight for lgbt

equality and black lives matter and gen z is no different. we see that with major movements in street. it's also been the fights over crime injustice and gun violence prevention. when young people are turning out in streets those have impacts of our entire lives. >> what does it tell you as an organizer when you see the number of young people who are turning out for this, who in many cases organizing these protests an yet there's just constant talk about whether or not they will turn out in november. >> we really have to hope and pray they do turn out in november. we know this election millenn l millennials are the swing vote. we know they are the biggest voting block and don't come out to vote. what we're seeing now is i i credible moment of spirit and determination and power. young people are feeling powerful and having their voices

heard. we know oftentimes young people don't vote because they don't feel represented. they don't feel like the messaging is appropriate to them. only 5% of elected are black people. it's difficult for people to connect. at this moment when people are feeling their power an hitting the street, we have to figure out ways to galvanize that enthusiasm straight to the polls in november. >> if you're an rgorganizer and watching what is happening across the country, what do you do to harness the energy that's happening two weeks, almost two weeks worth of these protests and make sure that energy is in place come november? >> what we're seeing is young people have nothing to lose. they are showing up in the streets. they are making their pain public in is the same pain that's being experienced by young people in their homes, in

their schools, when they're in the streets. every single day. they are making that pain public and it's changing the imagination of america. what our opportunity is in this moment is in order to make sure that these young people show up and vote, we have to give them a power mission. we have to make sure between now and election day, they know locally how they make their voices heard. more than ever, defunding the police is a conversation that is cha changed the nation. how can people see that happen in elected office in the next couple of months? there are sheriff races and prosecutor races where young people with elect the next person who is making decisions around the budget, prosecution or making decisions about things that impact our lives every day. that's how we get them out. >> how are you connecting the dots for the young yupeople youe trying to reach? >> all these young people are seeing their political

imaginations publicly displayed everywhere across this knation. we're making sure all these young people have a political home they could come to and practice democracy every single day even after the protests end. there will be two tactics, voter suppression and voter depression. voter suppression is when the right is trying to stop young people from voting from having voter id laws or purges or making it harder for people sthoe up and voshow up and vote. voter suppression is on all of us. that's about the imaginations of young people seeing their politics can actually change america. what we do to stop the depression is show them through a political vehicle that they can show up and vote. they can show up and hold elected folk who is are accountable now who can change police budgets right now and see they are making change so when november comes it's a fight.

>> pam, i want to kbroibring yo on the same question. >> yeah, i served in the military for 11 years. yp a lot of post 9/11 veterans are asking themselves the most e vis rating question is what did i serve for? for a country where we're seeing ramp ant militarizing and have kept us in endless wars abroad only to come home and see the ra rampant militarization of black and brown people in our communities. i'm organizing veterans and military connected people and we're tired plo ed politics as . we're tired of a politics that exploits us for white nationalist agenda or corporate politicians that take defense

and weapons money and then legislate against our interest. young people, veterans and military voters as well are tired of the endless cycles and no interventions. we're ready for real safety for all people and many of us are united in the dream of a multiracial democracy where all of us can thrive. we are organizing as well to no longer be spoken for and speak for ourselves. >> sarah, all of this is happening against the back brop of a presidential election which is less than six months away. you had the biden campaign announcing a new youth initiative. i saw you tweet something about how your sort of saddened by that initiatinitiative. i wonder what your sense of whether or not the biden camp is understanding this moment and understanding what they need to do in order to harness this energy and bring young people to the table in november.

>> based on what we seen so far, work remains. we saw there's a focus on students, young professionals and young elected officials early during a pandemic when so many young people have lost their jobs and have lost their health care. those are not identities that many young people identity with. it's as if the biden campaign saying this space is not for you. we're seeing the biden campaign surround the vice president with young people who already are there with him. if he wants to win in the fall, he needs to engage with young people who will skeptical. needs to engage directly with the young people. there's much work that remains. i truly hope the biden campaign

is listening. wru young people are here and ready to engage. the biden campaign has a loot of work ahead. >> the biden quacampaign is qui to point to unity task force. look at what we're doing. we're listening and trying to make changes to our agenda on a number of fronts whether it's be green new deal, mr. it's policing. how much of this is about the message and how much of it is about the policy itself? >> i think it's important to focus on the message. i think our young people are asking to hear things that are relevant to them. they want to hear it's amplified. they want to hear practical collusions. they want to hear what will happen in first 100 days. they want to see a specific program that will be able to

address very issues happening within the community. i hope the biden campaign takes it into consideration as they are preparing for the next five months. as they are preparing communication strategies and amplifying leadership. it's important to be reflected and understand people are not doing it for their own best interest but your best interest. people who will want to be seen and heard and helped. we had to message in that way so they feel comfortable going to the polls. >> thank you all. we have seen nearly two weeks of outrage on the streets. now the conversation is turning to policy and solutions. up next, i'll talk to julian castro about the changes he wants to see the democratic

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protesters have hit the street for a second week amid a pandemic and ta are not slowing down. what are lawmakers doing? today julian castro announced four candidates amid to ending police violence under his people first future pac.

one of those candidates is congresswoman pressley. joe biden has tapped castro to join his campaign and help with policing reform which is was a major propoents of his platform. democrats are expected to unveil package on police reform tomorrow which includes curbing racial profiling. with me is julian castro. secretary, why was it so important to use the pact to support candidates aligned with your vision of policing? >> it's good to with you. the death of george floyd has been like a lightning bolt that has struck so many americans in the heart and has electrified, energized people to get out there into the streets and demand an end to police violence, are reimagining of

policing in our country and end to the over reliance of policing especially low income black and brown communities out there in our country. all of that passion is something we need. we need people to push at the ballot box for candidates that will make a difference. it's ever going to happen if we get elected officials who have the courage at the local level to take on the police unions at the national level, to push their colleagues to do the right thing so a few days ago we laun launched future effort in our first slate of candidates on policing, are four candidates at the national level and people running for district attorney that are committed to making the actual policy changes that it will take to demilitarize the police, to increase accoukreecr

accountability and shrink the foot print of policing in our country. >> you talk about the local level. you talk about the federal level. you have worked at those levels. you know what it's like to be a mayor of large city. as former mayor what are these other mayors up against. can you give us a sense? there's the urgency of the moment and at the same time the need to do this correctly. if you're mayor of a big city, what are the conversations that you should be having right now. >> now is the time you have to have courage. i had a front row seat into how powerful police unions are at the local level. it's where a lot of the action is. policing and contracts are negotiated. the deal with use of force, the deal with transparency, accountabili accountability. there's a lot they can do as well as county supervie vsors a

district attorneys. we have seen what the police union in buffalo, new york did archdioce after the officers shovered a 75-year-old elderly man who fell and started bleeding out. his colleagues were applauding those officers. the police union stood by the officers in the george floyd incident. their culture has become toxic. they also put a lot of money into local elections. they help get candidates elected. those city council members and mayors are on notice that people are watching now. they are watching for courageous you'll be in this moment. my advice is to understand that it's a new day. people are prioritizing this issue in a way like never before.

now is the optimal time to put the police budget under scrutiny and to understand it can be made so we're not over policing some communities. we can reasonably shrink the foot print of police ing in the short term. now was the time to do that. i was glad to see the mayor announce they are looking at 100 to 150 million cut in their budget. in fact, i'm convinced that if we invested more in libraries and other things we would have less need for law enforcement in the long run in general. >> you made this issue central to your presidential run. i'll never forget you saying sandra bland's name on the debate stage. how the you close you think you can get the former vice president to the plan you

proposed when running for president. >> i think the important thing is he gets it. the other day when he spoke in philadelphia what i was looking for in which he started specific reforms that he challenged congress to make to be part of his vision for changing policing in our country. he talked about banning choke holds. he talked about ending the militarization of police departments. he talked about more police accountabili accountability. those are the types of things that congress can do right now and the vice president very much gets it. >> how do you harness the enthusiasm and the excitement of this moment and turn it into political will. you know and i know you talk to

add v advocat advocates, they say the policy is clear. the question is whether you can create the political will to get this done in municipalities in washington, d.c. what will it take to cross that bridge? >> it's going to take people ve vetting candidates, supporting candidates up and down the ballot from local races, state representatives and in congress. get people elected who will make this issue a priority and don't stop there. keep the pressure on. keep calling them. keep writing them. hold them accountable to make those changes. any change we see in our democracy ultimately that rests in the power of the people and it's up to us to turn the energy on the streets into energy on the floors of congress, in city hall, state legislative chambers next year.

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protests around the world have chanted the name, george floyd. but in the midst of widespread outrage over his death, protesters wonder if enough is being said about the death of breonna taylor. louisville police officers entered her apartment using a no-knock warrant. her boyfriend, kenneth walker, a licensed gun owner, thought the police were intrudeers and shot at them. the officers fired and brew yon taylor was killed months later her story continues to be told but have been no charges in her case. with me, monique morris, author and executive director of push out, the criminalization of black girls and schools and executive director of grant makers for girls of color. i'm so excited to speak with you.

monique, you know, it was going to be breonna taylor's 27th birthday on friday so there was a lot of discussion about her, but it had seemed prior to that that she was not being centered in this national conversation, in this moment, why is it so critical that we make sure to center black women and black girls? >> you know, now is a critical time for us to reimagine what justice can look like. many of us are participating in an elevation of understanding. a rallying around conditions that are reflective of centuries of ine waunequainequality and o. if we fail to include breonna explicitly in this conversation and other black women and girls harmed by state-sanctioned violence, then we're failing to take advantage, full advantage of a moment of transformation. >> we're talking, we're hearing, a lot of this conversation about defunding the police, which when you talk to advocates and activists really is talking

about resources and the way that budgets are spent both at the local level, at the federal level. you, of course, have spent a lot of your time thinking, writing, about girls and education. and the way the educational system can often become a pipeline into the prison system. into the justice system. tell me for you, when you hear this conversation about resources, how resources should be spent, what do you see as this conversation's relationship to education in america? >> well, we know that our young people spend the majority of their time in schools and what we've seen is that overwhelmingly the resources that have been dedicated to this conversation about safety have been dedicated to the infusion of more police officers. i often challenge us to think a little differently. one, about how safety is constructed or co-constructed in our schools but also where we apply resources to fundamentally make schools safe enough for our young people to learn. the presence of police and

other, you know, what i call instruments of surveillance do not guarantee us safety in schools. in some schools they even make it more unsafe for the students of color, particularly for black and brown students. for girls, you know, there is an additional layer because we often don't explore how girls are uniquely impacted by police violence or how they are impacted by state-sanctioned violence in general. but it plays out in different ways. it's not always about an egregious video that circulates in the public wry. that's partly why i think we're having difficulty wrapping our advocacy around brianeonna tayl because we didn't actually see what happened to her the way we were able to watch the videos that take place against george floyd and other men who are openly harmed and killed in the public eye. the violence against black women and girls often takes place behind closed doors so because it is invisible, we're participating in some ways in an eraser when we fail to elevate their names and their being in

this conversation about justice. it begins in schools where we see black girls being d disproportionately criminal sized, disproportionately impacted by some of the decisions that have to do with discipline even if they're not a real threat to the public safety or threat to the safety of the school. many times we're seeing what i call a policing of black girl identity, a way we're reading behaviors, a way that we are engaging with girls in a way that reflects our perception of them rather than what their true engagement and opportunities and possibilities are. >> monique, thank you so much. i'm reading your book, "sing a rhythm, dance the blues." i cannot recommend it highly enough. that wraps it up for this hour. the reverend al sharpton takes over at the top of the hour. he's got a great lineup for guests tonight. stacey abrams, corey brooker, kirsten gillibrand, nypd commissioner dermot shay. they're all coming up next on.

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