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unprecedented 13 days of sustained national protests around police brutality. the push appears to be working. congressional democrats slated to introduce the most sweeping police reform package in a generation monday. new jersey senator and co-sponsor cory booker will join me shortly with more on the federal response. and as both the mayors of both minneapolis and new york have announced pending reforms to their police departments, i'll talk to the commissioner of the new york city police department later in the show. but first, the impact of the floyd protests on the presidential race. both presumptive democratic nominee joe biden and president trump putting their thumbs on the scale. many notable dignitaries will be attending floyd's funeral. president trump is not among them. though, he continues to call for
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law and order while insisting on solidarity with the floyd family and black voters. joining me now, former georgia gubernatorial candidate stacey abrams. founder of fair fight georgia. stacey, you have been involved in a lot of efforts around police reform and around trying to make sure that people are treated fairly and justly by law enforcement and now we see this continued swell of demonstrators, mostly peaceful, and has kept this issue going in -- on the front burner around the minds of the people in this country. and as i go to some of the rallies and do the funerals, question i have is do you think this will impact voting and influence how voters will vote
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in the upcoming presidential congressional senatorial all the way down to local elections in november? >> absolutely. i think it will. but i think we have to be very clear about what the outcome can be. we have to vote because voting is our power. but it is not an instant power. and we have to understand that the legislation that's being put forward by senator booker and others is important legislation but it requires a senate that can hear it and a president that will sign it. as we look down the line, if you look down-ballot, what states are doing, state laws have to change that protect law enforcement. i was proud to be a co-sponsor of legislation in 2016 that held police accountable in the state of georgia, but it's not enough if we aren't doing this consistently up and down the ballot, but also ensuring that we don't simply focus so myopically on one issue that we forget the larger environment of challenges that communities face
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because what happened to george floyd happened in part because of his poverty and maybe not the abject poverty we're used to thinking about but anyone who's denied access to opportunity in ameri america deserves to have a full response, that's what we're going to be voting on no november. >> and the question then comes, when you said a president that was will sign it, are you concerned that even if some of the sweeping legislation that the democrats are proposing tomorrow does pass, are you suggesting that president trump might not sign some of it? >> donald trump has proven himself time and again to be a man of many words but very little meaning and he is someone who has yet to show that he truly intends to do justice and do right. we see that every time he lifts up george floyd's name by denouncing nose who are spee iis memory.
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no. i do not have any faith that donald trump will do what he should. i also don't have faith that mitch mcconnell will allow this legislation to come to the floor. and we have to stop focusing solely on the presidency and as you said at the top of the story, we have to focus on the totality of our system. and we have to remember, systems aren't independent robotic motions. they are people. people making decisions and we have to change the people making the decisions. >> we also have to concentrate, and you've done a lot in this area, we worked together on this area, about protecting the vote because as i asked the question about whether or not it will impact voters, we also have to deal with something you have built a movement around and many of us that have been involved in our various organizations are concerned about is whether or not people are going to have to face obstacles to vote at all. >> well, we know they will. we watched in georgia on friday during the last day of early vote seven-hour lines to cast an
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early ballot. we watched what happened in wisconsin when people were forced to vote in person because they were not allowed to use the absentee ballot application, mechanism, that existed in that state. 34 states in our nation have no absentee ballots. 16 states have the capacity for absentee ballots but do not allow everyone to use it. we need the heroes act to pass the senate so by the time we get to november the right to vote is real and does not require that people put their lives in jeopardy. i want to add one thing, reverend, we have to make sure people are completing the census. >> right. >> we're not just running a redo of the 2016 election in 2020. we're also doing a reductix of 2010 election, allowed the gop, conservatives, to harness power and take over the state legislatures, take over governorships and take over congress and freeze in its tracks the legislative initiatives of president barack obama and vice president biden. >> stacey abrams. thank you for joining me
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tonight. >> thank you very having me. >> joining me now, new jersey democratic senator cory booker. now, senator booker, thank you for being on. tell us about the legislation that's going to be introduced tomorrow that deals directly with the issue of law enforcement and policing. >> well, all the details will be released tomorrow during a press conference. as you said, this is the most sweeping police accountability legislation of generations. we've never seen something like this before. and it covers a number of different areas. one is just banning certain practices from choke holds to racial and religious profiling. it is holding police officers to higher levels of -- of accountability and should they do wrong, it makes them subject to civil as well as criminal action on the federal level. and then it just creates more transparency for people all over the country by having police
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departments have to report up certain data like their use of force data or the misconduct data of their police officers helping to arrest or stop one of those things when you often see someone who gets a lot of misconduct problems in one this is a partnership on the senate side with me and senator kamala harris. incredible work on the house side by karen bass, head of the congressional black caucus and, of course, congressman nadler, the head of the judiciary committee. i'm very, very grateful for this cross-capitol partnership and the fact we'll be introducing this legislation with many, many co-signers tomorrow. >> now, when we say that -- let's say -- mention that while you and your fellow democrats are responding to the challenge of police reform, your republican colleagues, by whom i mean kentucky senator rand paul,
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are holding up your signature legislation, a bill passed in the house that would make lynching a federal crime. what can democrats do to prevail on this issue? i raise that while we're talking about the police reform legislation because if rand paul can hold up the anti-lynching legislation, how do we know the republicans won't try to hold up this package that is presented tomorrow to the public? >> well, we know the saying, rev, i'm sure you've said this in the streets, that justice delayed is justice denied. and the anti-lynching legislation has been tried to be passed in the united states senate for well more than a century. as thousands upon thousands of african-americans were murdered and the greatest periods of domestic terrorism we've ever seen where blacks were being lynched as a form of not just murder but terror and intimidation to black communities all across this country. and so congresspeople
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generations before people tried to get this legislation passed and have failed and we finally got it to a point where the legislation passed the house of representatives with only four house members objecting. the last congress, it passed -- this united states senate as well, in 2019, with no one objecting. and yet suddenly, rand paul now has decided that he wants to prevent us from having to pass it through the senate, how we align with the house and get it passed. i find it objectionable, especially on the day of george floyd's memorial, you were delivering those powerful words, he was the one who chose to bring this to the senate floor and precipitate a conflict with kamala harris and i on a day that so many of us were grieving, so many of us were hurting. this is what i just don't understand, is this in a moment in america, don't make this partisan. we have americans of all political backgrounds. we have americans of all races, religions, people of all ages
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out there in the streets protesting because everybody can understand the assaults on human dignity when police are csinglig you out because of your race or have names like ahmaud arbery, breonna taylor, names like george floyd who have become national names because of horrors at the end of their lives as opposed to being known by family and more for the life they were living. >> and -- and the three names you named, senator, all happened, all were killed within 30 days as the whole nation was just about -- just about the whole nation was in shelter-in-place. lockdown. no sports. so they're watching this one right after another. which i think also helped to energize a lot of people to say, this is just too much. but the other point i wanted to add to you, i'll let you finish your point, is that not only did senator rand paul do this on a day we had the first memorial
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for george floyd, he is from kentucky where breonna taylor was killed. he's the senator from the state that has this horrific case that they're facing right now. >> rev, you know the saying, you can't lead the people if you don't love the people. that's what we're yearning for here. a more beloved community where we recognize we belong to each other. if something's happening to my african-american brothers, it's happening to me or people stepping forward and understanding that in a moral moment, you are either about the change or you're complicit with the status quo, so i just think there's something going on here where folk are waking up. we see it with everything from the nfl apologizing, shifting positions, all the way to people now saying "black lives matter," who refused to say those words before but now they recognize the challenges the black community's facing, so i'm just praying that we are seeing a spiritually combustible moment
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here where we as a nation begin to become that more beloved community which we seek and begin to make real a nation in search of itself, make real on the promise of this country, that we can be a place of liberty and justice for all. >> new jersey senator cory booker. thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> joining me now is my panel. zerlina maxwell, senior director of profegressive programming at sirius xm. former director of progressive media for the clinton campaign. and author of "the end of white politics" and an msnbc political analyst. and joe watkins, republican strategist and former aide in the george h.w. bush white house. zerlina, let me go to you first. stacey abrams just said on this show she thinks that the movement that is being engaged now, we're on our way to houston
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to do the last of the funeral services for george floyd. she feels all of this will impact the elections and impact voters. what do you feel? >> well, i think that we all have to focus on ballot access from now until november. so ensuring that all of this energy, the collective activism of so many brave people who are going out. remember, in the middle of a global pandemic to protest against police brutality and for freedom and justice for all people. we need to be able to vote in a safe manner so whether that be absentee ballot access like i just took time yesterday to do in new york because i'm quarantined elsewhere, or around the country to duplicate what states like california have done. i think this is a very unique moment, rev. we have a moment where we have really a pretender as president. a reality star who really produced scenes to look like fictional achievements and
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success and now that he's the president, we're in the middle of an economic crisis, a public health crisis, now unrest because the police have brutalized people for far too long, specifically black people, and i think we have the wrong leader at the wrong time and we need to make sure that everybody's voice can be heard in november so that we can change leadership to make sure that we can have the vaccine distributioned in a very orderly fashion so that everyone -- >> and an equitable fashion. ek a equitable fashion as well. >> exactly. >> reverend, joe watkins, and i think about the fact that many of us have dealt with these issues for a while, have done marches and rallies and got some legislation on local levels and now we see a breakthrough and we're all involved doing a lot of the rallies and the funerals, i'll be there speaking on tuesday at the funeral.
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where are the republicans? you would think in a breakthrough moment on this issue there would finally be a breakthrough of some republican leadership to say, trump is wrong. and trump is dividing the country. trump is misleading the country. you even have one or two hosts on fox news saying that. and as zerlina has outlined, a lot of the conditions we're in under trump, i've not seen one major republican leader stand up and question this president. what is the reason for that? >> well, a lot of people i think are concerned about themselves and about their own re-election. they care first about themselves. that's not the way it's supposed to be. it's supposed to be public service, you're in this because you want to make the country a better place, serve the people you represent and want to do the right thing and i think far too many republicans, it's about preserving my seat, how do i save my seat. rand paul, how could rand paul
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in any way block an anti-lynching bill in the year 2020? in the year 2020. just after we saw what amounts to a lynching with george floyd just a couple weeks ago. the whole nation saw that on television and is still watching what happened and is horrified by that. white people and black people are horrified by what happened. how is it that you don't have republican support or that any republican can hold up that kind of legislation? and with regards to the legislation that senator cory booker is going to be introducing, there ought to be a whole bunch of republican names on that, too, because just last week i also called on cnbc, on the sieve esister station, i sa order for real reform to take place there has to be national policing standards. especially when it comes to excessive force, the use of excessive force. i say that because, rev, you know i'm a republican, i worked for a republican president. george h.w. bush. >> right. >> but i am a black man. when i get behind the wheel of my car, people don't see a republican. they see a black man. and so i want to make sure that for myself, my friends, for my
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family, for everybody that looks like me, for my kids, my grandkids, the people in my community that nobody ever again has to worry about neck strangulation hold or a choke hold being put on them or being mistreated or abused. >> right. >> or killed by the hands of any police officer. >> all right. we'll have to leave it there. reverend joe watkins. and zerlina maxwell. and reverend watkins, just in eye forgot the name of the book, it's part of the furniture at zerlina's. it's "the end of white politics." coming up, demonstrations from americans around the country has led to legislative efforts at the state and federal level to end police brutality. our conversation with new york senator kirsten gillibrand after this break. but first, my colleague, richard lui, with today's top news stories. richard? >> hey, thanks, rev. i'm richard lui at msnbc lawyers in new york with a news update for you.
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the number of confirmed coronavirus cases now moves close tore the 2 million mark this day. as of this hour the death toll is more than 110,000. states along the gulf coast, meanwhile, bracing for impact from tropical storm cristobal. rain, strong winds and flooding will persist today and tomorrow in the lower mississippi valley and midwest. near orlando, cristobal is blamed for a tornado. tornado warnings now in place along the coast of florida. the nba has approved a plan to restart the season with games taking place at disney resort in florida. that plan includes 22 teams to play a handful of regular-season games to determine who makes the playoffs. tentative start date j july 31st. games will be played without fans and daily covid testing will take place. i'm richard lui. "politicsnation" continues right after the break. in response to covid-19, subaru and our retailers are donating fifty million meals
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men, if particular, losing their lives to police officers who break the law. who use excessive force and who kill them. so, i think this is a moment that demands leadership. it demands a reckoning. >> following the murder of george floyd in minneapolis, demonstrations have spread across the country with new yorkers defying a citywide curfew to protest police brutality. mayor bill de blasio finally lifted the curfew after another night of mostly peaceful protests yesterday. of course, new york city isn't representative of the entire state. in buffalo 57 officers resigned from the city's emergency response team when two of their number were suspended without pay. those suspensions only coming after a video of the officers
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shoving a 75-year-old man to the ground went viral and when those two officers were arraigned yesterday for that violent incident and pled not guilty, their fellows showed up at the courthouse to applaud them. joining me now is new york senator kirsten gillibrand. senator jill gragillibrand, i rs buffalo situation to show the real divide where law enforcement seems to dig in on one side and those that really want reform, and i've been among them out front on that, on the other side, when really they ought to be saying that all of us want to see equal protection under the law and handled in an equal way. why would you cheer on officers that push a 75-year-old man to the ground and he's bleeding and
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they walk past him, just pass by him? i mean, what is there to defend? how does that become a cause for law enforcement people? >> i don't understand it, either, reverend. i have to say when i saw that video us deeply disturbed and it's just another video of police brutality and excessive use of force that does not make us safer, does not make our country stronger. it's actually tearing us apart. and i was deeply upset and the lack of empathy. the fact that an older man was pushed, someone who clearly wasn't going to encounter the police in some violent way -- >> right. >> -- pushed him. he cracked his skull. blood was oozing out of his head. and the policemen just kept walking by. >> and they said he tripped. they said he tripped when they clearly pushed him. 75-year-old man. and this is a white man. imagine what people of color, particularly black people, go through. >> every day. and that's why this moment,
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reverend, is so important for this country. there is a reckoning and people must understand that the people around this country that are protesting need to be heard. need to be listened to. need to be understood. and what's happening is people are crying out because it's just systemic injustice after systemic injustice, whether it is police brutality, whether it is unfairness and inequality in education or our health care system. there's so many challenges as i as a white woman of extraordinary privilege have the responsibility to lift up and fight against because this is what's necessary to heal these wounds. we can't fix the past. this has been a problem since before our country was our country. and we have to begin to right these wrongs and heal these wounds piece by piece by piece. >> you've introduced the eric garner excessive force prevention act. in the u.s. senate. what would that bill accomplish,
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and what are its chances of being passed into law? >> well, i've spoken to eric's mother, gwen, and i've spoken to his daughter, emerald, and i've gotten to know them over the last many months. i can dell ytell you the purpos this bill is to right that wrong. the fact that eric garner said he couldn't breathe over and over and over again and police did nothing. we just saw what happened to george floyd. he couldn't breathe and police officers did nothing for over eight minutes. as the life came out of that man. it's outrageous. and so what our bill simply does is it bans choke holds on the federal level. and any other kind of hold or knee on a neck that doesn't allow someone to breathe. and it makes it a federal crime. this is a bill that congressman hakeem jeffries wrote last year in honor and in memory of eric garner and i am privileged to be able to carry it in the u.s. senate.
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>> i said at the first funeral for george floyd that maybe if there'd been some immediate response to the choke hold on eric garner who was the first one that we saw on tape saying, "i can't breathe," while he was in a choke hold held by police, maybe george floyd -- maybe, maybe wouldn't have happened because policemen would have known you couldn't get away with just suffocating someone or taking their breath, particularly if they hear the words, "i can't breathe." those policemen were never criminally tried and it took five years to fire just one of them. >> yeah. it's been an outrage, reverend, and we know how our city has suffered because of it. the lack of faith people have had in the police because of it. and the lack of accountability. the fact that there is no accountability as there is no righteous action given what's happened. and so people are demanding that right now. they want our police to stop
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brutalizing black and brown communities. they want people to -- police officers to wear their body cameras. we want to make sure that they can't use weapons of war. the military has to stop giving its weapons of war to police departme departments. we have to reform the system from top to bottom. and then also begin to address the other institutional racism without -- within our society from health care, mortality, economic, access to capital. there's a lot of ideas and we should start working on them right now. >> all right. senator kirsten gillibrand, thank you for being with us this evening. still to come, despite the violence of some protests, demonstrations have largely been peaceful. after the break i talk with the mayor of newark, new jersey, about how his city handled the protest of 12,000 people without a single arrest. that's next. is mealtime a struggle?
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welcome back. hundreds of thousands of americans have turned out to peacefully protest the killing of george floyd, and we have seen more police violence erupting in response in new york city and across the country. but just across the river, things looked very different. in newark, new jersey, there were zero arrests during last weekend's protests even as thousands turned out to march. joining me now is newark mayor ras baraka. mayor baraka, what was the difference between you and the newark police department was able to do and other cities? yo when you look at fact you had thousands -- i think 12,000 out there -- protesting and not only were there no violence k-- ther
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was to violence reported that we can find, there were no arrests. how did you pull it off? >> couple things, one rk, god's grace. two, i think the organizer, larry hamm, are seasoned. they know how to organize events. this wasn't a spur of the moment thing for them. three, i think the police showed incredible restraint. we didn't come out there with riot gear with the intention of stopping inping a protest. we came out there to support the protest. that's a difference. and we host protests regularly in the city all the time. so the police aren't a stranger to that. lastly, i think the people of the community did an awesome and incredible job. the residents of the city. those folks that were there maintained peace, maintained order. they were outraged, obviously, and they should be, but they showed a kind of compassion, love, for the city, plus they understand the history of newark in the first place. >> now, in 1967, and i remember
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that, i was around 12 years old, go on to be 13 that year, newark was rocked by rioting that left 26 people dead. your father was beaten by police. >> right. >> during that time. how has newark made such a transformation and such a transformational change to become an example in this moment of widespread unrest? >> well, newark still lives with that, you know. we 50 years later we still are trying to rebuild this city. four black mayors later, we are still rebuilding the remnants of that rebellion, emotional and psychological things that came from that still exist. we're still in a consent decree. the rebellion happened because of policebrutality. we got a consent decree because of police misconduct. so doing this to our city did not, like, end police brutality. so we're still pushing for it
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right now in our city and because of that we have instituted incredible reforms in the police department. we are 80% less complaints than we had 5 years ago. you know, there are many things that are happening in the police department because of the consent decree and because of the work we're doing and our administration's better relationship between the police and the community. >> how would you counsel other mayors to take what newark has been able to transform and the things you outlined, how police identify, how police don't come in like occupy force, how would you counsel other mayors to try and change some of the ways that they've handled situations that have become tense? >> first, we have to admit that the police department is rout with white supremacy, racism, that is historically occupied our community and we to address that and go face to face with it and dismantle it as much as we possibly can.
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we have to begin to make the police forces look like the people in the community. get them to live there. we -- i've been saying we're still atoning for the sins of 1967, for the racism that existed then, that exists today. we're still trying to repair th that, and you have to, first, acknowledge that and then begin to actively change that through policy and training in the police department but also facing the community and allowing the community to address the wrongs that have happened to them by the police department. >> and allowing them to express themselves because i know that through many people i associate with in newark and our newark national action network tech center, there are a lot of forums, a lot of town halls, that you do and others do when there are no crisis situations. >> that's right. and that's the important thing. so we have police -- we have trauma circles with police and
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community folks. we -- they deal directly with the newark community street team, you know w the street academy. we try to make the police see exactly what the community feel and vice versa, what the people feel -- what the police feel about the community and we have forums all the time to try to address that and deal with that and then the consent decree has forums as well. so we try to do as much as we can. we don't pretend. we don't hide. we don't make believe we don't have problems because we do. we still have problems. we're just trying to root them out actively aem and people see that. >> all right. mayor ras baraka of newark, new jersey, thanks for being with us. just ahead, the new york police department has been under fire for its handling of protests. after the break, i'll be joined by new york city police commissioner dermot shea. so as you head back out on the road,
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the nation's largest police department is under fire as two weeks of fervent protests around police brutality have tested a new york police department already wrestling with its public image after decades of fatal incidents involving unarmed black people. and use of deadly force by officers. it comes to a head this week as reports of nypd officers detaining journalists and essential workers, on top of videos such as this of a woman
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violently slammed to the ground by an officer last week, have driven calls for the city's progressive mayor, bill de blas blasio, to step down for failing, some contend, to rein his cops in. joining me now is new york police commissioner dermot shea. commissioner shea, you and i have had very blunt and candid talks about our feelings on both sides of this question. the fact is if you've got videotapes, this woman being slammed down, of police taking a vehicle of policemen and driving into a crowd, you could not argue that these officers have given the entire force a bad image based on their actions on top of the litany of cases, and you've only been commissioner six months, but from on, many of us have fought, the question is what is new york city going to
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do about their cops? >> reverend sharpton, thank you for having me on. you know, it's been a very difficult week. week and a half here in new york city. it's been a difficult week for the men and women of this department and certainly for the city as a whole. when you show some of these videos, that doesn't portray who the nypd is. when you look at tens of thousands of protesters out on the streets, we've been doing everything we can to make sure that we welcome them to the streets. to keep them safe, to put our lives on the line, and that's exactly what they've been doing, to guarantee their right to come out and protest and voice their concern. there have been, and you showed a couple, there have been a couple of incidents in very difficult circumstances where we've seen some behavior that's unacceptable for the badge of the new york city police department. >> what has happened to those police in those incidents?
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>> just in the last couple days, there's been two officers suspended without pay and been taken off the street. they will be held to a high standard of discipline, charges. there is a process, as i'm sure you know. there's been a commander transfer. one of the things that we have to do better in law enforcement, not just here in new york city, but across the country, is building trust with the communities and part of that trust goes right to what you're saying, i believe. it's when there is bad actions, you must speak out about it. you must hold people accountable. and you must let the chips fall where they may. with that said, this has been a week where officers have been attacked, shot at, have moll ot cocktails thrown at them and many other things. i know you know this, too. they acted overwhelmingly with incredible restraint, with
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minimal force. but, again, there has been some bad incidents and we're addressing them. >> well, community leaders and certainly those of us that have been in police reform now and before denounce any acts against police. the question is whether it goes on the other side. i remember going a week before last to minneapolis and when this first happened to george floyd and the four policemen who have finally been arrested but they were fired that day. whereas the police officers that choked eric garner to death on tape, him saying first, five years ago, six years ago now, "i can't breathe," it took five years to fire the police. they never have faced a criminal charge. but five years to fire one policeman. so you can understand how on one hand people have no problems
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saying nobody ought to do anything violently against police, but it doesn't seem like there is an enforcement on the other side by new york city police department. you've said to me that there's been a no choke hold law or policy for 29 years that you've been on the force, but it wasn't enforced. this man kept his job, was getting paid five years after we saw the tape. >> yep. that's well documented. when you look at -- when you look at across the nation and people see different outcomes, if you will, there was an incident recently in buffalo, there's been recent incidents in atlanta where officers were fired immediately. there are different processes, reverend sharpton, in different parts of the country, and we have to do it lawfully here. there are rare exceptions. if somebody is on probation and does something that it could be handled in a much quicker manner, but we have to go through a process, and this is part of explaining what's going on. this is part of building trust
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and you lose trust, as you know, very quickly. you gain it slowly and you lose it quickly. and sometimes people are fed up and don't want to hear because they have lost faith. that is our job as police executives. that's my job as job as the commissioner of this department to make sure that we get it and hol it and build upon. >> i am glad we leave it there. i am sure you are not surprised that i am going to raise some issues and we'll keep on raising it and you always despite the fact that you are not going to be uncomfortable will respond when i call to raise these issues and keep raising it. >> thank you for being with me and we'll certainly continue this and monitor what's going on. up next, my final thoughts, stay with us. my final thoughts stay with us
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houston joining ben crump speaking at the final funeral services for the victim s in ths undisputability act of murder, george floyd. i thought down the years i had to speak in eulogize. sometimes people forget that these are real human beings. they have real family members that loved them. they are somebody's brother or nephew. i got to know some of the floyd's family, it is not a call for them. it is a pain and some cases in some days more unbearable than
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others. i would hope on this tuesday as they say their final good-bye to his physical remains that we realize that we are not talking about just a hashtag. we are talking about a human-being that should have never had to leave this earth this way and we are talking about a family that's going to have to struggle toll pick up the pieces. at least we can give them justice and say he did not leave and die in vain. i hope you will remember that on tuesday with the floyd's family. thank you for watching. that does it for me, i will see you back here next weekend, saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern,ism eastern. up next my colleague nicole wallace picks up our coverage. u. hot! hot!
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good evening, i am nicole wallace, we are entering the 13th straight night of protests in the wake of killing of george floyd at the hands of minneapolis officer. we are keeping an eye at a live picture right now, demonstrations going on in the soho area in new york city while there are other crowds marching in the streets. there are a couple cities around the country and around the world holding
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