welcome to "kacie dc," i'm kasie hunt. after two weeks of agony, the nation's voice is raw with the chance of protest. we are following breaking news tonight as thousands once again fill the streets. the protests have swelled this weekend with marchers demanding changes to policing, prosecution and policy amid the deaths of george floyd, ahmaud arbery and breonna taylor. just in, new york city will move some police funding to youth groups. minneapolis has banned choke holds and seattle will stop using tear gas. family and friends got one last look at george floyd in memorial. last time the nation saw him was under the knee of officer derek chauvin, now charged with three other officers in floyd's death.

major cities like dallas have peeled back curfews in the latest nbc news "wall street journal" poll, 80% of americans say the country feels out of control. president sought to seek power with military, finally sending home last troops standing by. national guard sent by states will depart washington in next 72 hours and gone for now, unmarked police that lined the streets in washington in scenes that shook the foundation of our democracy to its very core. now to allie vitali in washington, d.c.. i understand you were able to catch up with senator mitt romney, this just breaking literally in last hour or so, man who was the republican presidential nominee in 2012

taking to the streets and tweeting that black lives matter. what did he have to say to you? >> reporter: that's exactly right, kasie, another day of thousands coming out to march in washington, d.c.. mitt romney among them, marching in the shadow of the white house. when we caught up with him, we asked why. listen to what he told us. >> we need a voice against racism, many voices against racism and brutality, we need to stand up and say that black lives matter. >> reporter: you heard mitt romney there saying that black lives matter. it's notable he would be out here. only a handful of senators we've seen participate in these protests. kamala harris, elizabeth warren, but mitt romney only republican marching that black lives matter. one republican congressman in

texas, will hurd, that participated there. but notable to catch up with romney walking. didn't see many staff, or any family. but when we talked to him, unequivocal why he was out here. and broader sense, this area of lafayette park when the d.c. mayor renamed black lives matter plaza, we've seen thousands of people out here again today for peaceful protests, just a few hours ago started marching from dupont circle down 16th street and came to street close to the white house, laid down over the black lives matter mural for 8:46. they started chanting i can't breathe. reverberations of those words of the streets and buildings here in downtown. could feel it with your whole body. caps off a day we've seen people young and old of all races marching for what they hope is

not just a moment but a larger movement that continues on past this time, kasie. >> remarkable scene, ali vitali. thank you. go to minneapolis, shaquille brewster. shaq, walk us through what the streets of minneapolis feel like today, and the conversation there has really shifted toward what to do next to try and solve the problems with the minneapolis police force. perhaps even calls to abolish it altogether. >> reporter: you're seeing somewhat of a split screen in minneapolis. at site where george floyd was killed where we started the day, continue to see people bring their flowers and family and have commemorations and honor his life and legacy. other hand people continue to say we want change and cry out with pleas for change.

what you saw in the park behind me, an hour ago, a thousand people calling for change and for the minneapolis police department to be disbanded, abolished and defunded. you saw a majority of city council members get up on the stage and call for disbandment of the minneapolis police department. warn it's not immediate, officers leaving their post tomorrow but begins a conversation and new way to think about policing. look at the changes, this is what people have been calling for. from before, last week choke holds were banned in minneapolis. officers now have a duty to report and intervene when they see another officer accused of or committing police misconduct. this is what they've been fighting for and people feel like this is a different moment in time. listen to one of my conversations with gentleman at memorial site where george floyd was killed. >> i've been down this road

before, in the martin luther king riot when that happened. this is way beyond what i went through there, but same purpose. >> reporter: does this feel different? >> totally. >> reporter: how so? >> more people involved, white people, brown people, all people involved to make a big difference, what it takes. >> reporter: what do you want to see? >> more diversity. >> reporter: and we'll see officer chauvin first time in court monday. saw the other officers last week. and across the country the commemorations for george floyd continue, a service yesterday in north carolina, will be laid to rest in houston tuesday, vice president biden will attend one of the public viewings on monday, kasie. >> great reporting through all of this, shaquille brewster, stay safe and we'll continue to talk as the week goes on.

justice for george floyd is going to take a step forward when former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin makes his first court appearance. and new reporting about the police precinct when the officers charged worked. reports that the precinct served as playground for cops costing the city in misconduct lawsuits. judges forced to throw out cases for quote, outrageous conduct among officers there and apparently known there's the way that minneapolis police department does things and then the way they do it in threes. attorney general keith ellison, thanks for being on the program. >> good to be here. >> start with the reporting from the minneapolis star "tribune,"

were you aware of the problems inside the third precinct? and how will that play into the prosecution you're undertaking now? >> fact is is that anecdotally people were aware and there were concerns over a long period of time. can i say that to those statistics specifically, no, because i'm not municipal leader. but having lived here entire abull adult life with we'ear close toe ground, it wasn't surprising news. >> what can you tell us about the police department and the police union, how do you think the union is going to facilitate or stand in the way of finding justice for george floyd? >> i can tell you historically the federation has not been an

advocate for progressive soecia change. they opposed change and over time whittled away at the change that did occur. maybe now things will change. people are becoming aware why we can't have meaningful systemic change and they know the federation and its president have not been advocates. problem is we've had two systems of justice, what is written in the law, department policy, the rules on paper, and then we've had what people actually do. and they have not been the same. and so you know, now i think that the calls for change are being heard. you don't get 1,000 people at the park talking about policing without it being a pressing

concern of the whole city. >> i want to show you a little bit, we have some of the footage from earlier of the mayor of minneapolis essentially being booed out of a protest after he said that he was not for outright abolition of the police force. he was asked to say yes or no, whether he would support defunding the police. there he is walking out of that protest as people chanted at him. do you support defunding the police department in minneapolis? >> you know, i'm not a municipal leader, so i'm not going to opine on that. what i can tell you though, is that what i hear people saying is that yes, we want public safety and security, we want people to investigate sexual assault cases, people to be protected from domestic violence, those things are not going to miraculously stop.

but what we also want is a reconception of how we achieve public safety. right now we have a paramilitary model where the department calls each other military style titles, captain, lieutenant, all that stuff. we send out people with guns to use deadly force no matter what the problem may be. problem is sexual assault, send somebody with a gun, domestic violence, send somebody with a gun. mental health issue, send somebody with a gun. i think what we have to do as city is think is there a better way to have people safe, secure, investigate crimes and have people accountable? when president obama had 21st central policing, it was groundbreaking. lot of great reforms.

called it because policing is rooted in the 20th or even the 19th century, we've not updated training, preparation, various problems. so much of safety and security involves mental health professionals, recreation for youth, a lot of things. just having a paramilitary group where we send somebody with a gun to solve every problem might not be the only way or best way to have a safe community. that is what i hear those people calling for. not that we're not going to have a system of safety and security. >> yeah, i mean that makes sense when you're able to lay out the nuance of that. my question is do you think the slogan is potentially offputting to people in a way that hurts the cause? the slogan "defund the police" is it a slogan you would use?

>> you know, young people in the street, marching, calling for change, they call stuff what they call stuff. i think it is important to come forward and help people understand it. you may recall when the term "black lives matter" first was used, lot of people said all lives matter and thought it was good to say. really what they were saying, wait a minute, don't act like our particular historical oppression is universal thing. no, it is particular and unique to the african-american community that started as captives in 1819 and has been dealing with slavery, segregation and racism ever since that time. don't drown our struggle saying everything is everything, it's not. it's particular and calls for certain responses. that term needed to be described. this one may need some explanation as well. but i'm sure the organizers are penning op-eds and everything

else to help people understand what they mean. >> good point. it has changed dramatically, even since hillary clinton was running for president, and terms of black lives matter and all lives matter. let me wrap up asking you what the next steps are in the case itself as you turn to prosecuting derek chauvin. i've heard you say and other analysts look at it, say it is tough to prosecute police officers in these types of cases. how confident are you that you will be able to bring justice in this case? >> i'm very confident. because the facts meet the law. i'm very confident there is ample evident to support the charges beyond a reasonable doubt. but it's not as simple as that. we have to work very hard, we have to have every single link in the prosecutorial change must

be tight, we need to prepare and we're doing that. utilizing the resources of our office, attorneys, in consultation with u.s. attorneys office. we believe our combined efforts will bring forth justice, but we understand the daunting task ahead of us, remember freddie gray, philando castile, rodney king and host of other cases where justice was not served even though the facts seemed so clear. >> attorney general keith ellison, thanks for your time. really appreciate it. we'll be following this case closely in weeks and months to come. tonight chicago is joining cities across the country lifting its curfew, though protests have shown no signs of stopping. kreutzer called for reforming

funding. joining me, mayor lori lightfoot, thanks for being on the program tonight. would like to start where we left off with the attorney general of minnesota, thinking through how police forces in our cities do their work. many of these activists and protesters on the street are out there calling to defund the police. what does that slogan mean to you and is it a slogan you would use? >> what it means to me and what's underlying this, communities that have been disinvested in for decades and are crying out for resources want resources put into their communities and i agree with that 100%. in chicago, i ran on this. and we have taken very specific steps to make sure our communities of color in particular have the resources they need to be able to thrive and be vibrant. we've invested $750 million in

ten commercial corridors in black and brown neighborhoods because we know they've not received their fair apportioned share of resources. it's something we absolutely have to address. to me that's really what's at the heart of the issues. reality is we can't rely upon the police to provide public safety. that's 1990s version of public policy. we know that people need public safety, also jobs, opportunity, a line to legitimate economy. that's what we have to bring as cities. it's not either/or proposition, it's both. and what needs to lead is making investments in communities around public safety, mental health, closing health care disparities, giving people opportunity to pipeline to legitimate jobs in the economy.

and we must do that, and we must answer the urgent plea of people in the streets because those needs have not been met. >> and would you echo the calls of protesters to defund the police along those lines? >> i don't think that is really what's underlying this. what i'm hearing in my city and watching across the country is this desire and demand for resources. and we have an obligation to answer that demand, and that's precisely what we're doing in chicago and will be continuing to do that. attorney general made a lot of really important points. if we rely upon law enforcement only, we're going to fail. that's what's happened at way too many places across the country. last year we stood up and brought an all hands on deck approach to public safety. we've got schools involved,

parks, libraries, social services organizations, that's how we build healthy, vibrant and safe communities, not just relying upon the police, and we're going to continue to push forward on that front in chicago. one other issue i know you raised but i want to drive this home, police contracts are a significant part of the problem. they absolutely are. i'm hoping we're going to announce soon some monumental reforms we push for and we've won to set the stage for what i know is going to be a long fight around police reform. we've got to get unions to understand they've got to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. >> so walk me through that a little bit. we did take notice that you said that the police union is extraordinarily reluctant to embrace some of these reforms, and anyone who has paid attention to how city politics work in many big metropolitan

areas knows they do wield incredible power. what tools do you have to try and change that dynamic? >> first of all, we've got to speak our values through these contracts, lay out a very clear set of principles around reform and accountability and not allow the extraordinary due process that police officers get to be a road block to accountability. and we fought hard, we've got two separate contracts we've been fighting on. we fought very hard to make sure we really speak our values, eliminating road blocks. for example in our city, you can't make anonymous complaint against the police, that doesn't make sense, got to stop that. got to make sure that police officers don't have so much due process that they can't be held accountable. we've fought hard and i led a police accountability task force four years ago, almost five

years ago, laying out a set of principles around police reform and accountability, now as mayor i have an opportunity to not only just reference those but put those reforms into action. that's precisely what we're doing in our fight around these police contracts. we've got to make sure we speak our values, we're transparent and bring the community into how police are recruited and trained, that's critically important. >> before i let you go, just want to ask you how the heart and soul of chicago is doing through all of this. i know these protests have been largely peaceful but there has been some damage done in neighborhoods that really can't afford to have to turn around and rebuild. i know that's been demoralizing for many people out in the streets peacefully focused on the issues that the entire

country has been focused on. how is your city doing? >> you know, it's going to take us some time. there's a lot of very open wounds. open wounds from the protesters, open wounds from the business owners, and from ordinary citizens trying to navigate emotionally fraught times. but i also know in chicago we're incredibly resilient. we've seen that, even after the looting, people in neighborhoods were up early in the morning out with brooms and shovels cleaning up the debris and helping small businesses and even big retailers start the process of recovery and healing. it's going to take some time, and we have to reckon with the racism that's the original sin of our country. there was a minister who offered up some i think very compelling words. he said we've been fighting covid-19 pandemic, but for the

entirety of our history in this country we've been fighting covid-1619. he's absolutely right about that. we have to reckon with racism. we have to deal with how it's embedded in too many institutions. until we do that, we're going to see this anger and frustration that's been boiling over in chicago and all across the country. we have an opportunity to really take advantage of this moment and reckon with our past and our present and make sure that racism doesn't continue to be a part of our future. we can do that but we've got to face the hard truths and not shy away from the challenges we face as a nation around this original sin. >> chicago mayor lori lightfoot, thank you very much for coming on the program tonight, i really appreciate your perspective and insights and we're think of all of those in chicago tonight. when we continue, the

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racism, against brutality, we need to stand up and say black lives matter. >> mitt romney, moments ago, marching in front of the white house after being publicly trashed by the president. at president's direction, streets around washington took on warlock feeling this week, especially the area around the white house. for the past three years i've ever covered a culture war from inside the white house, this week felt more like actual war. white house has become a fortress inside a fortress following the protests against the death of george floyd. block after block of tall, black, reinforced fencing erected in recent days. philip rutger, jonathan lemmeer,

and alexie mccannen. as we looked at those images of the white house, almost looking as though it was under siege, a really remarkable thing for many of us who have seen that many other presidents have resisted that, even during times of great stress or national security challenges. in your mind, what -- and what does your reporting say about how the president got to this point, whether this is going to be the new normal for the way -- what has always been the people's house looks. >> it's a great question, kasie, thanks for having me. we know from the president's

rhetoric, even at his campaign rallies, talked about protesters, violent and nonviolent, people should knock them out, be kicked out of events. president seems to be losing sight about what the protests are meant to be about, looking at one subset of the protests, violence and looting and rioting in part. because of that taking extreme action that we know president trump loves to do, govern via executive order, tap into as much power as the presidency affords him. that's exactly what he's doing now. feels like the people protesting are protesting against him, and he wants to show a clear hierarchy between himself and law enforcement and military officials, the one part of america he likes to represent, and the other part of america that exists. frustrated black and brown communities fed up with the way we've been treated.

president trump will hopefully not make it the norm but it's the first way he's handling it and that says a lot. >> it is really important to underscore, as much as we are focused on the president and covering the president, these protests are about so much more than that, don't want to lose sight of that reality. phil, i want to ask you what we saw coming in here, mitt romney going down to the black lives matter protests and saying on camera black lives matter. tweeting selfies of himself in the crowd. seemed to be largely unstaffed, just going out to make this statement of support. continuing to of course probably antagonize president trump, but this is a man, romney, has a long family history of this. and i think there's a recognition certainly only happened in last hour or so, that this is a pretty significant way for him to try

and continue that legacy of his family. >> yeah, i think that's right, kasie. this was really important moment for mitt romney, father george, governor of michigan and secretary in the nixon administration, a republican, very outspoken on issues of race and fought hard as governor and hud for fair housing practices during 1960s when there was a lot of discrimination in housing policies. and now following in his fo footsteps. i don't think it's just because romney doesn't like trump, only republican who voted to impeach. but more than that, expression of the values of his family and

his church, the mormon church. significant he was out there with ordinary people as if he were ordinary person himself marching in the protest. certainly will get under the president's skin but seemed to be romney's bid for history books more than antagonizing donald trump. >> and the reality is romney has really been a man alone in that opposition to the president. certainly on impeachment he was a man alone. i want to show, jonathan looum year, the question that's been looming this week as we grapple whether all these instances people thought the president had gone too far, starting with comments about john mccain in 2015 and his experience as prisoner of war. every single time none of that has come to pass, it's never been too much. but this week we started to have another turn in that

conversation and sense this may be really where the republican party turns against president trump. it's still to be determined, but jonathan martin wrote in the "new york times" that many of these figures in the republican party, george w. bush, romney of utah, obviously. speakers paul d. ryan, john boehner, not saying if they're going to vote for president trump. and tuesday of this week, tried to ask some of the republicans who have been in bind with the president about this, i found their responses pretty telling -- lack of responses i should say to be telling. let's watch, then talk about it. can i ask you about what the president did on lafayette square, peaceful protesters dispersed with tear gas and walked across the treat to the church. >> didn't see it. >> late for lunch. >> late for lunch. >> conflicting reports myself. >> i didn't see exactly what happened, i think he was trying

to make a point. >> i was grateful to see the slee leadership, looting has to stop. >> these peaceful protesters have been hijacked by looters. >> was clearing the protesters an abuse of power? i'm sorry? >> i don't have a comment, thank you. >> no, i don't think it was abuse of power. >> senator mcconnell, was what the president did last night the right thing to do? was it an abuse of power? was what the president did last night right? was it an abuse of power? >> by the protesters, yes, by the violence, yes. >> yes? what are your concerns? >> violence. >> i did not think that what we saw last night was the america

that i know. >> that last comment that it wasn't the america that she knew. jonathan muir, is it your sense there's enough pressure to turn the republicans against the president after what we've seen this week? >> first of all, great reporting, kasie. few moments since president took officer there's republicans willing to break with him. few and far between. here we saw a number refuse to weigh in or back the president but voices of dissent, mccould youski for one, and the footage of senator romney at black lives matter event. and seen james mattis and others in the national security field speak out. going to increase pressure on some republicans to increase distance. but president had zero support

with republicans when he was elected in 2016, it's different now, incumbent, changes dynamic, rnc is behind him, i don't know what difference this will make. few republicans if they publicly broke with him, george w. bush if he actively campaigned for joe biden or made a statement publicly i'm not going to vote for trump, may move some voters. more importantly is what the polls show now, what the campaign team cares far more about than the republican voices. if election was held today, they'd lose, they know that. five months to go and long ways off. but warning signs including in states president was banking on, georgia, iowa, and new battleground like arizona, polls showing him down in places he needs to win to capture a second

term. and we're seeing them trying to figure out in this moment a new campaign strategy as much as the president is still leaning on the law and order play. >> yeah, the states we're talking about are really a problem. jonathan, phil, alexi, thanks for your insight. what we continue, what congress is trying to do to rein in police brutality. need better sleep? try nature's bounty sleep3, a unique tri-layer supplement that calms you, helps you fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer great sleep comes naturally with sleep3. only from nature's bounty.

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don't cut our students' future. pass a state budget that protects our public schools. welcome back, let's head to jacob soboroff, what are you hearing about response to protests in the city you're at? >> reporter: people are not talking about the national guard out here, despite the fact the mayor has talked about national guard leaving los angeles effective immediately, staging just a little while longer. same messages we've been hearing, continuing to hear. protesters here don't care that mayor eric garcetti said he would take $100 million to $150 million out of the police

budget. this is a massive crowd, started hollywood and vine. look at iconic capitol records building, they're flying the black lives matter flag atop the capitol records building. this is something you do not see in the city of los angeles, not known for civic participation, there's a lot of anger, and everybody is here again, despite the city leaders saying progress is being made, money being reinvested in other areas of the communities. i don't think people out here care about that that much, think it's a deeper systemic issue, much more needs to be done with lapd, and what minneapolis have announced, disbanding of the police department. there's so many people here,

frankly the march has stopped because people can't advance, this is not even close to end of the line. this is going to continue on into the evening. black lives matter is the official organizer of this event, and most importantly, they asked everybody to come out here wearing masks tonight, kasie. >> excellent message to go along with that. jacob, welcome back as well. great to have you back, congratulations on your new baby. >> reporter: thanks, kasie. >> of course. conduct of law enforcement is sharply in focus as jacob was saying amid all the protests. calls rage on from vaactivists d protesters to defund in police. two officers in buffalo, new york, now charged with assault pushing a 75-year-old man to the ground. hard video to watch. also in new york, nypd announced suspensions and further discipline for officers after one was seen shoving a woman.

this shows officer chasing and punching a protester, under investigation. and in philadelphia, officer facing assault charges hitting protesters with baton and tackling a woman to the ground. joining me now, congressman from california. thanks for being here. as we've watched all the incidents unfold, not just one place but city after city, video after video online, people are wondering what can we do to stop this, and as somebody who covers you and your colleagues on capitol hill every day, what can congress do to try and fix this problem? >> kasie, in many ways the law enforcement response to the protesters has just proven the protesters' point, we have a cultural problem of excessive use of force.

congresswoman, chair of the black caucus has put together a compressive bill to ban the types of force, not allow police officers to hide behind immunity. senator harris and booker will take it up. and expectation is to pass the house and hopefully the senate to get to the president's desk. >> this has always been incredibly politically fraught, a lot of entrenched interests here. president tweeting the words "law and order" every today or every other day. local municipal leaders talking about police unions and resistance among them to making these changes. how realistic do you think it is that congress is capable of

negotiating something that makes a difference here? >> politics have shifted in way i have not seen in four years of congress. we had peace act a year ago that said standard of force in this country should not be what officer thinks is reasonable, the william renquist standard we're still going under, but force is absolutely necessary and last resort. we had about 22 cosponsors on that bill. now to have that included in the main package that even moderate democrats are going to support shows that the politics have shifted in this country. polling is overwhelming that people are more sympathetic with the protesters than the excessive use of force to quell those protests. i don't see how any democrat can vote opposed to the reform package. i don't see how you can do that. and frankly think we'll see what people like senator romney,

reasonable republicans support it, then the president will have a decision, does he want to veto something the overwhelming majority of americans want. >> you say that a member of your staff was involved in one of the incidents. what happened and is your staffer okay? >> yes. i don't want to go into name but two staffers actually of mine now, one on the political side, one on the official side. in one case, peaceful protests in new york, and the staffer was tackled to the ground by a police officer and detained for 6 1/2 hours, he was just totally peaceful. in another case, staffer was in washington, d.c., and had a rubber bullet hit him. you know, this shows the extent of what's going on. think about the privilege of someone working for member of congress, out there peacefully

protesting, and they're being targeted. you can just imagine what this means for ordinary citizens who are out there. >> people who don't necessarily have somebody like you available to call to help. your point is well taken. congressman roe khan that, nice to have you on the program. when we come back, eddie glaude in his own words, trust me, you don't want to miss it. me, you don't want to miss it. lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

as the 13th night of protests fills the streets, it is evident that we are once again at a pivotal moment in american history. our nation has been here before but failed to make meaningful lasting change. here we are with thousands of people potentially exposing themselves to disease to ensure that history doesn't repeat itself. here is chairman of princeton center for african-american studies eddie glaude in his own

words. >> george floyd was murdered, and it was captured on camera. minneapolis police officer derek chauvin had his knee pinned close to floyd's neck for eight minutes. we heard a haunting rendition of the words "i can't breathe." floyd cried out. chauvin sat there smug, hand in his pocket with little regard for the human being dying underneath the pressure of his knee. tonight it feels like the nation stands on a knife's edge, the ugliness of racism and devastation of a virus that has killed over 100,000 americans has brought home at least to me that something about our self-understanding as americans has fundamentally been shaken. we're struggling to figure out who we'll be in light of the unimaginable tragedy and grief that threatened to overwhelm

everything. many will find principles of founders or resilience of the american story, but if we are honest with ourselves, we will admit the current political climate has released forces howling since the tumultuous 1960s. for decades politicians have stoked and exploited white resentment. american workers have struggled to make ends meet, ideas of the public good have been displaced by unrelenting pursuit of self-interest. greed overwhelms. communities fractured, resentments deepened. the national fabric has frayed. it seems we are at each other's throats. the ghosts of our past now haunt openly. the presidential election alone will not satisfy their hunger. a moral reckoning is upon us. we will have to decide once and

for all whether or not we will truly be a multiracial democracy. now, we faced two such moments in our history, the civil war and reconstruction and the black freedom struggle of the mid 20th century. one has been described by historians as second founding and the other as second reconstruction. both grappled with the central contradiction at the heart of the union. abraham lincoln's second inaugural address in march of 1865 spoke directly to the cause of the war's carnage. quote, fondly, do we hope, fervently do we pray that the mighty scourge of war will speedily pass. god wills all the wealth piled by the bondsman 250 years of unrequited soil shall be sunk, until every drop of blood draub with the lash shall be paid by another drawn by the sword as was said 3,000 years ago so

still it must be said. the judgments of the lord are true and righteous all together. almost 100 years later, dr. martin luther king, jr. gave voice to the aspirations of the second reconstruction in his soaring i have a "i have a dream" speech on the steps of the lincoln memorial in 1963. >> i have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed. we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. >> both moments were betrayed. one was undone by the advent of jim crow, the other by calls for law and order and the tax revolt by the so-called silent majority. the attempt to imagine a truly multiracial democracy was lost as the country doubled down on the commitment that some people, because of the color of their

skin, were superior to others. today we find ourselves facing a moral reckoning of the same magnitude of these two historic moments. we should have learned the lesson by now that changing laws or putting our faith in politicians to do the right thing are not enough. we have to rid ourselves once and for all of the value gap. we have to rid ourselves of this belief that white people matter more than others. we don't. we're doomed to repeat the cycles of our ugly history over and over again. what we need is a third american founding, to begin again without this insidious idea of the value gap that continues to get in the way of a new america. we need to set out to imagine the country in the full light of its diversity and with an honest recognition of our sins. we have to confront our national

trauma, if we are to shake loose from the political frame that trapped us with racial dog whistles and foghorn's, its greed and selfishness and idealized version of american as the shining city on the hill where the country sins are transformed into examples of its inherent goodness, all of which binds us to an idea of innocence that all too often corrupts the soul. this will demand of us a new american story, different symbols, and robust policies to repair what we have done. i don't yet know what this will look like. i honestly don't. my understanding of our history suggests that we will probably fail trying. but i do know this for sure, that each element is important to any effort toward beginning

again. a version of america is dying. we hear it's death rattles loud and violent. but a new america is desperately trying to be born. we are its midwives. we have the responsibility to imagine america anew. will we do so? or will we turn our backs once again? >> that was eddie glaude in his own words. when we purpose homeland security chairman joins me one-on-one as the government flirts with a military crackdown on the streets of the united states. crackdown on the streets of the united states when considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr, a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or active psoriatic arthritis for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. it can reduce pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function.

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welcome back to "kasie dc." we are continuing to follow more protests across the country. this is the 13th consecutive night of demonstrations since george floyd was killed in police custody in minneapolis. as these images continue to shake the conscious of the nation, the coronavirus pandemic drags on. there are nearly 2 million confirmed cases here in the united states, more than 110,000 americans have died. in some pockets of the country, things are getting worse. south carolina set a single day record for new cases yesterday. as you can see here, cases are

on the rise in texas. things are headed in the wrong direction in arizona as well. those spikes are happening as dr. anthony fauci is calling the nationwide protests a, quote, perfect setup for further spread. as these twin crisis unfold, the president has remained out of public view this weekend, instead airing his grievances by a twitter from a white house that is surrounded by new fencing and concrete barriers. this morning he retweeted these side by side images showing him and joe biden with the caption, leaders lead, cowards kneel. biden meanwhile will meet with the family of george floyd tomorrow. let's go now to los angeles where we have seen massive crowds protesting night after night. nbc's jacob soboroff is back with us live again. jacob, walk us through what you've been seeing on the streets there today and how it's playing out with the city's

leadership. >> a nonstop flow of people here in a way that i've never seen before on the streets of l.a. when it comes to city leadership, there is no city leadership to be seen here. the city leadership, the police department, seems to be letting people come into the streets here. there's very little police presence. look around, let's see if we can talk to people. hey, guys, we're live on msnbc. tuck to me, you said defund the police. what's your name? >> my name is jana, defund the police. >> how many times have you come out? >> every day. >> every day? >> every single day. >> what's the change so far? how is it since you've come out? >> it's not different. it's been peaceful every time. everyone has been coming together. it's been beautiful, healing. it's been amazing. we just haven't been seeing it on the tv. >> what do you want people around the country watching this

live on msnbc to know about the work being done on the ground in los angeles. >> that it won't stop. we won't stop until we've gotten exactly what we need. we need justice. >> you said defund the police. >> defund the police. >> it's really nice to meet you. appreciate it. kasie, that's a message you continue to hear all over again. no justice, no peace. it's the refrain we keep hearing and we're going to keep hearing it on the streets of los angeles. >> jacob soboroff, our viewers are getting a view of the massive crowds you're a part of. looking at it from above, it's really quite a remarkable sight. thank you very much, my friend. stay safe as always. we want to go to nbc where we find nbc anchor yasmin vossoughian. you're in brooklyn. this would have been the time approximately when the curfew

was going to be starting. we've seen the tenor change on that as well. what are you seeing on the ground? >> the mayor saying no more curfew. it was supposed to go to 5:00 in the morning. no curfew. we have ralligoers. on the right and the left they are flanked by police officers but still completely peaceful. not having much interaction between police officers and protesters. behind my dam raman, joel, i don't know if you can swing around. you have more protesters there, hundreds of protesters. those folks marched up from the barkl barclay center. i was in times square where we saw thousands out. union square park, protests happening, washington park. it's incredible to see throughout the entire city how many folks are out wanting

racial justice, right, fighting for black lives matter. they want to see systemic change within the police department. one of the signs out here, defund the police. the mayor saying he wants to do just that. he wants to move money from the police department, nypd budget over to fund youth programs. a lot of folks asking how much and when kpak are you going to do that. one of the major questions i've been asking and you mentioned this at the top of the hour. this is the 13th night of protests. the question is when will you stop? how long are you going to keep doing this? how many nights are you going to keep coming out? i actually spoke to a protester, abdullah. >> how long will you do that for? >> as long as we have to. probably my lifetime. over the course of 400 years, america does not value black lives. we have to fight and continue so our children, the next generation don't have to continue that same fight. >> kasie, that's what i'm hearing from so many folks out here, i'm going to keep coming

every single night, pandemic or not, because i believe in this. i believe in racial justice, equality. i want to come out on the streets of new york and fight for justice and black lives matter. seems like these folks will do that into the night here, kasie. >> yasmin vossoughian, it's always great to see you. stay safe out there as you cover this. president trump tweeted this morning that he has ordered the national guard to start the process of with drawing from washington, d.c.," the final unit on stand by was cleared last night. this comes after mayor muriel bowser called for them to leave. the guardsmen who came from out of state are expected to depart d.c. in the next two hours or so. joining me congressman bennie thompson, chairman of homeland security. it's always great to have you on the program. thank you for being here. i want to start with what we

spoke last hour with congressman ro khanna about some of the plans, and we know we're expecting leaders in congress on the democratic side to unveil a plan to combat police brutality we've been seeing in our streets. what can congress do to try and address what is clearly a very deep seated problem playing out in cities across america? >> well, i think clearly the congressional black caucus with progressive caucus and others will be introducing several pieces of legislation that will address many things, harassment, conduct of police historically. the so-called immunity from a personal standpoint, all those issues will have to be addressed. the fact that police departments are taking a sizable amount of the budget of a lot of municipalities and other

entities, we need to look at those budgets, pull some of the money back, and invest it in other things. we need to do work for the homeless. we need to work for the young people in this country. we have to do mental health programs. it can't just all be law enforcement. so i think when you see people talking about defunding police, i think it's a matter of setting priorities for communities. this is how the process work. the politicians respond to pressure. the pressure you see in the streets of america is what the politicians ultimately will respond to. >> and would you echo that protesters that we just heard with jacob soboroff and say yourself defund the police? >> all i'd say is we have to look at the budgets. i'm from a part of america where

the police and the black community has been viewed in many instances as the enemy for a long time. i am telling my grandson the same thing that my mother and father told me 50 years ago about the police. something is wrong with that. fifty years later black boys are still being harassed by police departments in this country and that should not be. the police should be viewed as the friend of the community, not an enemy. so whatever we have to do to fix that problem, we have to do it. so i'm excited about the emergency i see all over the country. i look forward to making sure that we fix some of the things right now. the multicultural numbers that you see walking the streets all over america, that speaks volumes that people won't change. so when people march, just like we did in the '60s, we got

changed. now they are marching again. i look forward to additional chan change. >> i want to show you, you as chairman. homeland security committee, sent a letter looking for more information about what happened, what transpired in lafayette square on monday night with the president and clearing the square so he could walk across the plaza on st. johns church and hold up the bible. the attorney general william barr weighed in on the question. they challenged the idea that tear gas was used at all. this is what he said this morning. let's watch and then we'll talk about it. >> and you believe that what our police did, using tear gas and projectiles, was appropriate. >> here is what the media is missing. this was not an operation to respond to that particular crowd. it was an operation to move the

perimeter one block. >> the methods they used were appropriate? >> when they met resistance, yes. they announced three times, they didn't move. by the way, there was no tear gas used. the tear gas was used sunday when they had to clear the crowd to allow the fire department to come in to save st. johns church. >> there were chemical irritants. >> they were not chemical irritants. pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. pepper-balls. >> it is worth noting to fact check the attorney general on the spot they have pointed out department of justice inspector general defines pepper spray, and you can see it here, as a chemical agent. that's the chart that reporter found and tweeted. so can i just ask you to respond there to what the attorney general said? do you think it's appropriate for tear gas to ever be used in the context of a peaceful protest in the united states? >> absolutely not. again, we are a nation of laws.

any time you break the law, it's wrong, whether you're the president of the united states or whomever. in this instance, american citizens peacefully demonstrating basically was attacked by their own government. tear gas, pepper spray, whatever the chemical administratiditive should not have been used. for a photo-op, we put lives in danger and did a number of things. again, attorney general barr has to understand that you are the chief law enforcement person for the country. you have an obligation to not only defend the constitution and its citizens, but you also have to protect them. in this instance, you created part of the problem, and that's why a lot of us are trying to get to the facts. we've sent a letter asking a

number of questions, secretary of homeland security, whomever, saying we absolutely need to know who was involved, what were the circumstances. we have, as members of congress, an oversight responsibility. i plan, along with the other persons who signed the letter with me, to do that oversight responsibility. it's unfortunate that in america today citizens who peacefully advocate first amendment rights are being attacked by their government. whatever the reason, it should not happen. we plan to look at it and let the public know exactly what the facts are. >> chairman bennie thompson, thank you very much. here is hoping that what we are watching unfold here means that your grandson won't have to have generations more of that same

conversation that you had to have. thank you very much for your time, sir. i really appreciate it. when we come back an all-star panel to discuss videos of police chasing protesters and whether officers are going too far. plus a remarkable rebellion among former military brass saying the president is shaking the pillars of our republic. brett joins me in just a bit. you're watching "kasie dc." bit you're watching "kasie dc.

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cell phone footage of the minneapolis police officer digging his knee into goermg floyd's next for more than eight minutes set off calls are anger and justice across the country. now nearly two weeks into mass protests against police brutality we're seeing video of this, armed police officers striking protesters. this video taken in los angeles. this one shows a chaotic scene in new york city as protesters are struck with batons while others run away. amnesty international of l.a. accused police of using excessive force against protesters. the organization says all officers who bro the law should be held accountable. joining me now editor at law for the 19thern haynes, msnbc legal analyst maya wiley, npr tv critic and msnbc media analyst. thank you all for being here tonight. erin, let me start with you just

on this video. this is a point lawmakers we talked to have made throughout the program which is these protesters are out there protesting police brutality. what has unfolded a new catalog of police in buffalo elderly man bleeding on the sidewalk is just so difficult to watch. what do you think is the long-term impact of these vid s videos. >> kasie, i think what we know is the issue of police, "particularly policings in black communities might not be new. what might be new is america's reaction to systemic racism starting with policing. in 2015 with ferguson and emerging of black lives matter movement, what you saw was proof, cell phone videos, helped many white americans understand black people weren't just talking about their feelings but the facts of their day-to-day

life interacting with law enforcement in cities and across the country. i think that what 2020 that shown us, these protests we've seen in recent days and a lot of these videos, if you notice, you have white people not just seeing what is happening to black folks but also themselves experiencing some of the police brutality that folks in black communities have long talked about. i think what we know in america is that when something happens to white folk, that is often the proof they need to take action against something they feel is an injustice when it happens to them. >> yeah. maya wiley, what are the legal repercussions here? what are the tools? we know from experience it can be difficult to prosecute these cases against police officers. what protections do they have that perhaps the country should start talking about changing? >> that's an excellent question,

kasie, because it depends on where you are. in new york city we have a civilian complaint review board. i actually chaired it. the thing about civilian oversight is it gives the public an opportunity to come to a civilian agency and say something happened to me that violates the law, police policy or even rude, bad behavior. that has been important because then you have data that shows patterns of complaint and where they are coming from and what kinds of complaint. police departments themselves have their own ability to receive complaints. but in far too many cities there is either no civilian oversight or no sufficient transparency into what those complaints are and what the police do with them. one of the ropes we see so many

people protesting across the country is for far too long, particularly black and latino people, native americans where that's the large population, have had this as a daily problem, not just being killed, which we know has been horrific and you're significantly more likely to be shot by the police if you're black than if you're white but just the daily that kind of pushing, shoving, pulling a baton out when it's unnecessary, that less than end of life but clearly excessive force unless and until, and we're starting to see this debate, there was a requirement that complaints be made public, disciplinary action taken be public, in many instances there be strong civilian oversight in the case of new york city our agency had the ability to actually prosecute the most serious cases like eric garner's killing at the hands of officer

daniel pantaleo. that creates the kinds of mechanisms where we can see more results. as you say, one of the things we need is action by congress to say you no longer get a shield to your excessive force because you say i was just doing my job. >> when we talk about this broadly in terms of the changes that need to happen and the politics of it, i think we've seen this be an incredibly important issue for lawmakers to grapple with because the political pressures have been such that change is almost impossible. one thing to me just how dramatically everything has shifted. perhaps to the point of parity, one thing suggested when romgro goodell came out and made the statement after colin kaepernick

has been run out of the league. let's watch and i want to get your take on it. >> we at the national football league condemn racism and systematic oppression of black people. we the national football league admit we were wrong for not listening to nfl players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest. we the national football league believe black lives matter. i personally protest with you and want to be part of the much needed change in this country. >> erriaaron, can i get you to respond that? >> so much to unpack. that's hypocritical, not only for colin kaepernick but the rhetoric nfl owners used in the wake of colin kaepernick's initial drive to take a knee and

acknowledge that there's a problem in the american system that should be addressed. some of the various actions teams took in order to keep their athletes from doing the same thing. ultimately it was about commerce. a lot of it was about commerce. they were afraid their white audiences would turn away from the nfl and for ratings would go down for tv broadcast and people would stop coming to games. now that public has switched and swayed they are trying to shift to that direction because the league is overwhelmingly featuring players that are black and brown. ultimately, i think the problem is that very few people want to admit they are contributing to a system that marginalizes and oppresses people of color. we know from some of the thing

athletes say that it happens there. we know it happens in criminal justice. the big issue we're debating right now is trying to convince people systemic racism exists, it's a force. it's something that holds back and oppresses people of color. even now we see administration officials like beb carson and william barr going on television and insisting systemic rattism isn't a problem in law enforcement and we have video after video after video that tells a very different story. >> yeah. quickly as we wrap up here, how do you think this -- is there a way to make the anger, outrage, outpouring of support for the black community on their behalf, to make that change durable? >> i think that one way that we may see whether or not it's

going to be durable is in this 2020 election, which i think started already with race being a huge factor. between the dual pandemics of the coronavirus and confronting systemic racism, i think that's definitely going to be an issue. look, 2020 in a lot of ways is going to be about american voters and how their views and values around this issue are going to impact what they to at the ballot box. we know race imis on the ballot for black voters. the question is how does race factor into the decision folks make at the polls for white voters and also independent? you also have two white men running for president who are going to have to put forth whatever their plan is for how they plan to bring this country forward and heal this country but also to have a plan for real racial progress in america. >> all right.

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tomorrow will mark two weeks since george floyd died in police custody in minneapolis and tonight there are still protests happening across the country. msnbc political reporter ali vitali is on the ground in d.c. tonight. a ali, how is it unfolding. >> as we were losing the sun, we were losing protesters out here. you can tell in the last few minutes we've had a big influx of protesters here to what has been renamed black lives matter plaza by the mayor. signing this sign behind me, lending their name and voices to this black lives matter cause. as i've been out here, i've been

asking them, people who have been protesting far longer than this moment if it feels different. listen to what woman, jackie, told me. >> this is the first time protesting for this particular incident but i've been protesting for other incidences that have come along throughout many years. >> does this feel different? >> it feels different. i feel like it's not just black voices speaking. our voices are getting louder and otherette niflts and nationalities are weighing in. we're seeing some changes but we do need more. >> kasie, as we've been out here, i've always been talking to protesters about where this goes from here. a lot of people have been talking about needing to continue the momentum after the protests are over into forming tangible change in police departments and legaliocalities across the country. the city council voted to end their relationship with the

minneapolis police department. here in d.c., the mural d.c. mayor muriel bowser painted said black lives matter. overnight there was an addendum added to it that said defund the police. when bowser was asked about that, she said it was not an official part of the mural. at the same time she said she doesn't want people not to be table to express themselves. as we move forward in the movement, it's going to be a question of what changes next to get at the systemic pieces of this that a lot of these activist activists. >> ali vitali, thank you very much. we will stay in touch with you throughout the evening as you continue to cover that protest. this week historic oppression among pentagon officials past and president who spoke out against a sitting president, john allen, wrote an op-ed in foreign policy writing, quote, we may be witnessing the

beginning of the end of american democracy. then there's the current secretary of defense mark esper. "the washington post" reports esper made the decision to disarm the national guard this week without consulting the white house even though the president had encouraged them to be armed. joining me now former presidential envoy for global coalition to defeat isis, analyst brett mcgurk and "los angeles times" white house reporter ely stockels. brett, you have served many presidents in both parties. i'm interested to hear your reflection on what it means that our nation's top national security leaders came out and spoke out so forcefully against this president this week. >> kasie, thanks. i think it's really important and i think the question why was this the break glass moment.

you have to step back and look at the events of last week. over the last week the president sitting in the white house at a critical moment for the country tweeted crazy stuff, i'm surrounded by ominous weapons and vicious dogs. the next day he's speaking to american governors, officials of the state saying dominate -- secretary of defense saying it's time to dominate the battle space. then we saw lafayette square and being cleared by federal officials under command of somebody that assaulted american citizens and journalists right before the cameras with the american people watching. this is kind of the break glass emergency moment. the basic fitness of this president to be the commander in chief. everybody that serves in this administration knows there's a serious problem of fitness. admiral mullen who has not spoken out, he really questions the soundness of the orders this

president is going to give. that's just an extraordinary statement. i think it's important he made it at this time. secondly, you know, the country is divided. the president rules by divisive politics. what general mattis is speaking to, i was with mattis in the middle east with the trump administration pulled soldiers aside, men and women, it's your job to hold the line until american people, our citizens, until we respect each other again, until we're decent to one another. to see the military be brought into this political stunt in lafayette square with secretary of defense behind him was a bridge too far. it was important they spoke out. i think it was the time to do it. the country is in a real crisis. i think it also can make a differen difference. >> ely, what does your reporting say about the white house thinking on this. do they believe or realize,

perhaps, what has transpired here, the gravity of this moment? >> i think inside the white house the president is mainly focused on how this is working out for him personally. after meetings with campaign officials and other folks involved in his re-election, there is an understanding the events of the last week did not work to his advantage, the criticism simple of the photo-op in front of the church on monday, some of the tweeting. that they understand did not work to his benefit. just looking at the polling, i think it's pretty obvious thais the case. but it's very hard for those people to go in there, we all know this, it's hard to convince the president to take a different tact, to stop tweeting. obviously if he comes out and gives a speech or tries to walk this back or move in a different direction, the question is whether or not that's believable to the country after the president has, again, muddled

the question here, said he was an ally of peaceful protesters before clearing the park, clearing peaceful protesters out with tear gas and saying george floyd is looking down and this is a great day and going to his twitter over the weekend and basically denigrating these peaceful protests talking about the crowd count, mocking them. he clearly takes the protests personally and i don't know if they have figured out how to get him to step back and see this through a different lens because he sees everything through that lens of this is personal. trying to control him and move him in a different direction we know how futile that can be for aides and advisers, kasie. >> brett mcgurk, speaking of lenses, let's think about this briefly from overseas. if you're an american ally, what did last week look like? >> well, i think they are looking at the united states with tremendous concern.

but not just the images we see. adversaries are taking advantage of this, saying you're the hypocritical country in the world. that's a given. the question is building alliances. little known story last week the president what seems like an impulsive decision to withdraw our troops out of germany. this goes to the fitness of the commander in chief to make these decisions. why was that made? that's a significant decision. we've been in germany, a significant force since the end of world war ii. that's important all around the world to be able to respond to events and crisis. why was that made? seems like it was made after a phone call with angela merkel that didn't go very well. that is not how you make a decision as commander in chief. there's tremendous concern around the world. look, i'm a diplomat, part of my job is to build alliances, build

diplomacy, find common interest and bridge the divide. it's much harder to do this with the images coming across the television and with the knowledge that everybody this president is not up for the job. he's not able to make sound decisions that govern our nation. >> brett mcgurk, eli stokols, thank you are for your insights. i appreciate it. the man who speaks from martin luther king, jr.'s pulpit and now running for senate in georgia. ing, jr.'s pulpit and now running for senate in georgia. i don't keep track of regrets and i don't add up the years,

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. america is grappling with the heavy burden of two active traumas. protesters across the country continue to fill the street following the death of george floyd while millions stayed home due to health concerns with the pandemic. rafael warnock, senior pastor where martin luther king, jr. once preached is running for the senate in georgia, a surprisingly competitive race. joining me here, thank you, sir, for being on the program tonight. it's great to have you. i think i'd like to start simply by asking your reflections on what community and your church has been going through grappling with disproportionate impact of the coronavirus pandemic and now

the raw pain and trauma of george floyd's death. >> thank you so very much. it's wonderful to be here with you tonight. we have been witnessing in our country through virus, we've been dealing over the last few months with covid-19. it is a virus that kills people. we've also been dealing what i called in my sermon last week, covid 1619. it is this virus we've been doing battle with the united states of america or this land, i should say, since the day make 50 africans arrived on the shores of jamestown, virginia. we thought we had beaten the battle, the virus, during the battle of the civil war but it came back with a vengeance and jim crow segregation. we thought perhaps the civil rights movement vaccinated us against the virus but it mutated in the new jim crow, the building of the largest prison

industrial complex in the world, george floyd, ahmaud arbery, breonna taylor are some of the latest victims of this virus. then yes, we are dealing with all of this in the midst of a pandemic, which disproportionately impacts people of african descent here in georgia, a small city of 07,000 or so has been a hot spot for covid-19 and what we see is the glaring impact of years of neglect, disparity in health care. i got arrested a few years ago in the governor's office. as a result of our refusal to expand medicaid, the politics of race as it expands over all these issues we're seeing a breakdown of rural health. people are pouring out into the streets saying america can do better than this is a difficult time, a dark time by i'm

inspired by the coalition of conscious i see in our streets raising their voices at an important moment. >> we've talked a lot on this show and as we've covered politics about georgia possibly shifting in demographics, potentially beating a republican in the senate race that you're running in or do you think that this will be at unfortunate episode where people are angry but nothing really changes? >> i think america is changing. this is a wonderful transformative moment. it's tiff but we have to keep our eye on the ball. a few years ago, the whole phrase "black lives matter" was so controversial. matter, a few weeks ago it was

deeply tropical. i remember going on cable television shows reminding america of what many had forget that martin martin in his most famous iconic speech, the i have a dream speech irks said in 1963 that we will not be free until the -- dr. king was talking about police brutality in 1963. he singled out black lives. the negro is the victim. yet, it was controversial. yet look what happened this week at long last after years of raising this issue, something is breaking through in america. the occupant of the oval office doesn't get it and that's why he used military style police officers to clear peaceful demonstrators out of lafayette square, but this morning he woke

up and found he was living near black lives plaza. he woke up on justice street. the people are reminding him that this is the people's house. after all, i think the people will rise up and reclaim their house and the senate. we've got a real chance in the state of georgia. my friend stacy abrams demonstrated that georgia is very much a battle ground state. >> all right. reverend, thank you. we'll watch your senate race closely. we'll be back in just a moment here. ely. we'll be back in just a moment here alright, i brought in ensure max protein to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. [grunting noise] i'll take that. woohoo! 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. with nutrients to support immune health.

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hey there. i'm joshua johnson. good to be with you tonight from nbc world quarterbacks in new york. as we saw this weekend in a number of ways, the protests are having an