welcome to thursday. it's "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. you're looking at live pictures of the president in dallas where he is speaking alongside a session mostly compromised of law enforcement. he's spending more time talking about the disruptions on the street and spent little time talking about the issue that many african-americans would like to see the police reform issue be about. we'll be listening more to his remarks to see if he does delve into this which comes as leaders in his party signal their willingness to support some democratic parties that have surfaced in the wake of george floyd's death including ban on police choke holds and a push to ban military bases named after generals. he continues to push a law and order message including says his

priorities again with law, order and he went down the line and got to compassion at some point. today, he even used a racial slur again to refer to democratic senator elizabeth warren. we don't know if the president will shift his tone as the fall out over floyd's death will continue. it's worth noting that public outcries can compel him to say things he later walks back. for instance, in the wake of the tragic shooting at parkland high school he went so far as to say he would support efforts to confiscate guns would you tell us due process. he supported raising the age the buy a rainfall and ifle and he fight the nra. it wasn't long that he backed off all of that. congress was only able to pass very tiny changes to the gun background check system. ahead of the president's remarks republican leaders seem to be signaling a big openness to kplo compromise perhaps reflecting a

knowledge that public attitudes have shifted dramatically. nancy pelosi made that remark when she spoke about police reform efforts. >> yesterday, when i chatted with the family before the hearing, george's brother said to me, i have a question for you. is this going to happen? is there going to be a bill that is passed and why do you think so? it's a question that many of you have but coming from him, it was -- it had power. i had an answer. yes, it will be passed because the public insists upon it. >> when the house's top republican kevin mccarthy spoke with reporters, he would not criticize the democrat legislation to overall policing. he came out in support of a ban on police choke hold which is is

in that bill that the democrats have put together and he said he would be open to renaming military bases named after confederate leaders. another one of these priorities from the democrats. the senate arms service committee threw its port behind that effort as well, for what it's worth. we'll delve into that later. let's start in dallas. joining me in dallas is nbc news colleague monica alba and carol lee. monica, i was listening in there until the show began and it was notable to me that the president and we know this. he's got rhetorical crutches, he did not want to seem to lead with reforms of the police. he wanted to taub abolk about w thoughts were problems in the streets. >> exactly, chuck. a strong message there on law and order which is what we heard from the president. he did hint they are working to finalize an executive order that would be on policing. he didn't give much detail on

that front except to say would be about the use of force. something that stood out to me. he said we want it to be handled with more compassion. a word we haven't heard that much pr the president in the last couple of weeks. you're right, he's spent the majority of his time talking about the protests in seattle, criticizing democrats for their willingness to defund the police saying if we're going to be doig anything here, the president is saying we're doing the opposite of that. he's surrounded by his attorney general, members of his administrati administration, republican leaders and faith members. there's several hundred black live matters protesters who have gathered. it's completely peaceful but an interesting scene because this is also a moment where the president's own supporters are gathered here behind me in dlda. we have seen some yelling. it's the first time we are seeing those two ideas come together here. the president is saying he's going to try to lay out a four

step program for development economically in certain minority communities. this is an event on a lot of topics. not just on policing and we're more than two weeks here from the death of george floyd and the white house still hasn't laid out anything actionable, immediate or new on the issue of police brutality or systemic racism. >> carol lee, kevin mccarthy is always usually pretty careful these days about not going somewhere where he doesn't think he'll have the president's support because many of those house republicans are left are much sort of hard core trump supporters or reflective, perhaps, of the trump base. it's notable to me that kevin mm mccarthy went as far as he did. is there more interest many the white house doing something and it's the president that's the hurdle here? what is the situation with working with congress as opposed to doing executive action?

>> reporter: that's really the question is you have clearly an acknowledgement within the white house that the president's message of the past weeks, last two weeks, has not been enough. the law and order message needs to be counter balanced with another message for the protesters. last week we were talking, the president was talking about dominating the streets and today was notes in front of him he's talking about dominating the streets with compassion. it's a different type of message and there's only so much that he can do in terms of an executive order. they're going to have to do some sort of legislative action. it's not clear what the president will get behind. he has discussed supporting are things like limiting choke ho s holds, a database for multiple officer who is have been accused of multiple instances of

stepping over the line. whether the president actually is on board with those is still an open question. we know from talking to white house officials they are working vigorously behind the scenes to try to get something together. they are talking with lawmakers on capitol hill. where is the president in all of this? today we see him sitting in this event reading from a script. will he still be saying the same things next week. >> monica, it struck us today, just watching the politics of this. i'm curious what the campaign thinks what's going on when he has no republican support back basic him up on the confederate general issue or backing him up on some of these things. is the campaign concerned they will be on the island while the rest of the republicans want to move somewhere else? >> reporter: absolutely. i think that's why you have

campaign officials trying to talk about literally anything else today. they were trying to point to the former vice president joe biden's remarks earlier and they are also trying to look ahead to next week where the president says he will return to the trail for a rally in tulsa, oklahoma on juneteeth. the historic significance of that date and lee indication became a controversy for the campaign today. it's unclear how he can even return to these large scale events given the pandemic. we don't know what it looks like to have several hundreds or thousands in any arena or venue without social distancing. those are the issues the kpa campaign been more focus ond and trying to amplify the defend the police movement. they think that's helpful for their case. they think lumping all of democratics into that and attaching them to that and the idea of disbanding or dismantsabling police departments is effective and when you have joe biden saying

he doesn't agree with the concept in that extreme manner, it's not going to work for them. that message falls flat. chuck. >> it's not just joe biden. nancy pelosi, cory booker. there really is not many mainstream democrats at all amplifying that message of anything going the other way. thank you for getting us started. chief harrison, what have you seen that the democrats have proposed in policing reform. is any of it something you couldn't live with? the ban on choke holds, getting rid of qualified immunity. is there anything that would be a disservice to your job? >> first of all, thank you for having me on and thank you to the guests. i think there are a number of

things they are proposing that we could live with. banning choke holds is already part of our use of force here in baltimore and we are three years into a federally man dated decree where we're making a makeover of this department. it's a full 100% transformation and many, if not most of the things that people are protesting about and demanding, we're actually doing right here in baltimore. it's a work in progress. we have a very long way to go. i think many, if not most of the things they are asking for, as a leader of an agency, in a decree i'm in favor of. i think it becomes an issue with the immunity for police officers that we could kpeerexperience a exodus if officers felt like they would lose that or would not have some level of protection even in good faith and under color of law. that is concerning for us but i need the ability and other

chiefs need the ability to take swift decisive action when bad acts of police are brought to our attention. in many states we're not able to do much of what was done in minneapolis with the chief when he took that swift action. here in baltimore, i would not be able to do that. we're looking for many reforms. we're looking for things that make us transparent and hold our departments accountable and we need to be able to do what the citizens are expecting chiefs to be able to do. that's when bad acts are brought to our attention, we're able to take swift and decisive action. >> professor goth, you just testified yesterday before capitol hill. in that experience, did you sense that -- did you get a sense, sometimes through questioning -- did you get a sense that a consensus was forming? >> i'm not sure that i'm the right person to talk about a consensus but i would say it was noteworthy that you had democrat

talksing about the justice and policing act of 2020 and you had republicans saying we should expect bipartisan agreement on a number of a pillars within the bill. that's a rare thing at first introduction of legislation flp was some agreement there that is uncommon in the partisan times we're living in. >> where do you fear, professor, in this reform movement -- what do you fear gets watered down here that you think would end up being unhelpful to any sort of reform movement? >> there's so many things i fear about watering down in this moment. i fear we're going to end up doing i think part of what today's activities were designed to do which is to turn this into a pawn or a football or something that is a tool for grander politics as opposed to

centering the people who are putting their lives at risk to march in the streets and demand this country live up to the values that it says it has for all of the men and women and children who are spoeds upposed live here. i worry this is like an accessory to the way we do politics. the call to defund police means a buchb of different things. one version is i know commissioner harrison has been talking about for a long time which is get police out of the things they can't do and invest in communities so they can live lives where they don't have to call the police. i'm very concerned we make this into something bite sized that we can do in a week or two so we can move onto something else. i've been saying it for the last couple of weeks. this is not just a policing thing. still on day 17 or whatever day

it is today. we're seeing people say, this is a past due notice for the unpaid debts owed to black people for 400 plus years. i'm worried we make it small and something that's about folks who are not concerned with these communities. that will absolutely -- well, it wou wouldn't be surprising because that's what it do when it comes to black people and the folk who is used to enslave us. >> chief harrison, you're not to the only chief that i've heard say too much is asked of police officers in certain communities. what is something you think your department shouldn't be asked to do that you would be willing to say let's redirect some of that money to x? what is x to you and where would you say, you know what, the movement is right. we should redirect resources that were here for the police department and put that over here for this community

department. >> those of us socially conscious want to build community based police departments. how we interact with the members of our community whether it's enforcement or some level of engagement. we have to make sure we're doing it where we treat people with dignity and respect and we're improving relationships and repairing relationships. i believe there's some level of trauma, mental illness. there's certain things that police really never were equipped to deal with and although we're trying to do a good job in training our officers, some of it belongs to certain mental health professionals and there are some responses that are better served

by mental health professionals and not necessarily police. although we can prepare our people and train them for the response, sometimes there's not enough investment on where to bring people and how to get people the real help after we have the initial response. those are two small examples of how to build police departments back and not responding to things that are outside of our discipline like mental illness response and some level of trauma that requires a trained professional and not a police officer. >> is the future of community departments like this, is it police officers who are social, who have the degrees and the training in certain social issues or is it different? police officers are about safety. you have a separate core of folks that worry about the

community service whether it's addiction, treatment, addiction issues, make homeless bhap is yo -- what is your vision of that? >> you can imagine investing tons of money in training law enforcement in doing all the things they are tasked with. if someone is contemplating suicide, they call law enforcement. if someone is having hard time in their marriage and becomes physical, now you have an abuse situation. they show up and the best marriage counselors. someone is over dosing and they show up. they do all of that and they do hair. that's not reasonable except for two or three of the most remarkable human beings in the history of the world. there's only so many rhodes scholars. instead of trying to imagine that what we're going to get is a bunch of super heroes, we could, say 911 could give you

school counselors. 911 can give you marriage counsellors and way to get out to a domestic shelter. that doesn't mean when someone is robbing your house you can't dial 911 and get law enforcement. that's not reasonable to ask of anybody who also has exceptionally comptent at taking away a life when necessary. firearms training. you can't sw someone to do firearms and first aids and mental health and substance abuse in the same job and expect you're going to get people who are qualified to do all of those things, all tof the time. part of what people is asking for is a more reasonable understanding that public safety starts before police show up and focused on making sure they don't have to show up. >> i think that -- >> sure. go ahead. >> i want to jump in because i think the thing both of us are

say sg, when people talk about defending police and they want to defund police now. we need to be very cautious about how and when. cutting it off now to create something different now, may not suit the public right now. we need to figure out,0 how to forward leaning and figure out the proper timing to do it. what we don't want to do is cut off services where we create more harm to the community than good because we have eliminated something without replacing it with the thing we're ready to replace it with until it's ready. >> part of the rallying cry is -- i'm sorry. >> a lot more to get into it. >> that's okay. last word. >> the rallying cry people want you to understand is for generation wes have been hearing about black communitiecommuniti. defend social welfare, defund

the schools and grocery stores. they are been defeunding things in black communities for generations. if we're going to defund, let the community decide where the funds go. >> professor, thank you. commissioner, i wanted to ask you about decrease. i only have so much time today. i look forward to having you on and talking about those issues as well. both of you, thank you for sharing your perspective on this. it was really thoughtful discussion. >> any time. thank you. up ahead, a republican led committee breaks with the president supporting renaming bases that honor con fed rates as one after another officially or by force confederate monuments seem to be coming down. is this the start of true monumental shift, if you will, for america. is america really prepared to handle an election in

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welcome back. al over the country some statues are being pulled down and in other cases defaced. in richmond, virginia, a monument to jefferson davis, this was the third statue pulled down in the span of a week. yesterday boston woke up to their statue of columbus being beheaded spurring the city to remove it entirely. nbc news estimates across the country 18 statues have been unofficially pulled down over the past two weeks. washington, d.c., as speaker pelosi is pushing for the

removal of confederate statues from the capitol, there's support that would remove confederate names from a bunch of military bases. it's -- this is a case where, please remind some of the senators who are on the senate armed forces, armed services committee that voted the way they voted. it wasn't exactly a whole bunch of northern senators. >> no. it's not a whole bunch of northern senators, chuck. you know, i would offer one note of caution in that there is some signs that the chairman of oklahoma which we have been talking about because the president is going to head there on juneteenth to hold a rally seems to be suggesting he may be trying to soften this language. i want to play for you some of the responses that we got from other republicans, some of the

more committee members we spoke to today. others rank and file member who is would have to sign off on this being included in a big package of legislation but let's just watch kind of how they responded. i think it was pretty telling. >> do you support removing the names? >> in some cases. >> why not all? >> look at them one by one. >> do you support that amendment? >> that's up to the committee. >> i'm not going to comment. >> do you support removing the names of confederate leaders from military bases? >> you'd have to be specific about that. i think -- i do not support -- i think we ought to try to rewrite history. >> so pretty interesting there, chuck. there seems to be still some reticence, some nervousness about it.

your point is the right one. some of the senators on the committee who have not said they were opposed, david purdue is from georgia and others. we did have senator tom cotton said he opposed this amendment according to our sources and josh holly said he was a no on this voice vote. it was a voice vote. this isn't all written down. cotton -- >> interesting. >> sources close to cotton said he wanted an exceptional for memorials to confederate war dead and there was no exception provided for that. on the one hand i do think there's significant pressure on this issue in way there wasn't before. it's clear that this is a real ground swell. on the other hand, i do think you see people who know this could have affect their state, local community. they could draw the ire of any number of people and the

undertaking and rename things like this is quite significant. i'm interested to see how much this pressure starts to build. you're seeing it in other areas too. you showed kevin mccarthy at the top talking about support for banning choke holds. that's not something that's currently under consideration in the senate. this is something that has, i think, fractured the republican party and it's so complicated in light of the fact they're all heading towards election. mitch mcconnell is concerned the majority is at risk. the president, they can't win with him but without him either. that vice has been pressuring the republicans for the entirety of the trump administration but it is particularly tight right now. >> it is. the mayor of jacksonville, a nebras member of the rnc, very happy he's going to get a piece of

this convention. he's pledged to remove a bunch of confederate symbols on city grounds in jacksonville this month as well. it is just interesting to watch a lot of republicans who consider them close to the president don't seem to be sharing the same concern that the president does in some of these things. interesting to see where -- >> rick scott of florida too. >> there you go. thank you. up ahead, the next wave of coronavirus cases is already hitting in one state health officials are urging hospitals to activate their emergency plans. we'll talk to a doctor in the midst of this latest surge, next. t of this latest surge, next

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welcome back. coronavirus cases are on the rise in nearly half the country and hospitalizations are increasing as well. that's really the thing that gets public health officials really concerned is when the hospitalization spikes happen. most officials appear reluctant to reinstate restrictions and lockdowns. people are taking advantage of their new found freedom of movement. contact levels across the nation are creeping back up. this is the data for 15 million people between march 1st and june 2nd. in some places, activity is near or back to prepandemic levels. as people begin to gather in greater number, health officials are watching for a new round of

coronavirus spikes. dr. joe gerald is the program director of public health policy and management at the university of arizona and as we speak, arizona's weekly positivity average has been rising. yesterday that number was 24%. welcome here. your r ratio is not looking good right now. how concerned are you that arizona is about to exceed its hospital bed capacity and its icu capacity? >> we're in trouble here, chuck. over the last two weeks we have seen a significant rise in new cases, in emergency department visits, in hospitalizations and icu care. because arizona never really had a decline following our first outbreak, we have much less safety margin this time around. many of us here in public health are very worried that we could

meet or exceed capacity in the coming weeks. >> is there a pattern to this round of spikes. i know that early on there was a huge outbreak in some native american territory. is this isolated? is this all over the state? is there pattern to any of this spike? >> you're right to point out that arizona is not a homogenous state. we have four regions. home to the native american population has taken the brunts of the coronavirus outbreak. we have our southern counties that border mexico. right now yuma is a hot spot. then we have our two urban areas. phoenix and tucson. they are seeing increases as well and the last group is our otherwise rural counties which seem to be a little bit better off. i would say that the outbreak here in arizona is widespread. >> what is this considering when

this spike is here in arizona? you're at the university of arizona. i've spoken with the president. probably very helpful that you guys are both medical doctors here. what concerns does this spike and the timing of it give you about the fall? >> one of the major assumptions with university reopening is we were going to have a respite here in the summer and case counts were going to fall. put us in a position where we could do the test, trace and treat strategy. we would have the resources to test the people that needed to be tested and follow up with contacts of those who might have been exposed. if we start the fall with this level of community transmission, that's completely unrealistic. right now we are in a crisis mode and our public health infrastructure is not up to the

task of doing the hard work that it takes to trace people in a timely fashion. >> there was a time, the last time i spoke with the university president, i think he had this idea that maybe you develop your own tests for the university and you basically be able to do your own contact tracing system. is that a viable strategy for a fairly large university like yours. >> if we're talking enough cases on one hand, the small double digits then maybe that's possible. if we're talking about community transmission that is as wide spread as it is now, even the advantage of doing things in house, i don't think we'll have the sufficient resources. things can change but right now the trajectory is getting worse.

we have made no plans at the state level to intervene doing the things we know that work. i think the short term outlook is pretty bleak. >> is it too late to do something right now at this point or do you think we -- if the governor sort of watched this interview and said, man, i tell you, joe gerald is right. i got to try to do something. i'm going to call him up. what would you ask him to do today to stop your prognostication of bleak? >> there are a number of interventions. the first place to start is universal masks when individuals are out in public. we're doing a poor job of that here in arizona. probably less than 50% of individuals, if that much. this is not being strongly communicated from the executive office. he's not modelling those behaviors himself suggesting that these are not really

important actions that individuals can take to protect not only themselves but really their neighbors and community workers, coworkers. i think we're at the time to where we have so seriously reconsider government mandated social distancing. we had a stay at home order that expired in early may and given that we have so little safety margin this time, i think it has to be on the short list of things to consider. it takes two to three weeks to slow this train and get it turned around. we don't have that much more time to intervene. >> so far, it seems like the only thing that does seem to work is simply, shutting down a bit. that is -- look at the new york curve. you look at the new jersey curve and you look at italy's curve and you do learn that lesson. really appreciate you coming on and sharing your expertise with us. thank you, sir. >> thank you.

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momentus ago the trump campaign confirmed they will hold a rally next friday in tulsa in a venue that holds 19,000 people. by clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inhernts risk of exposure of covid-19 exists in my place. you and any guest voluntarily assume all risks related to covid-19 and agree not to hold

donald j. trump or any officers and employee, agents, contractors or volunteers liable for any illness or injury. that is what the campaign is putting out and asking its attendees to these rallies to agree to. joining me now is dnc chairman. let me start with this issue of the virus and the conventions. you have consistently told your friends in milwaukee, you're following the science and you have no intention of not having the convention in milwaukee. if the science says you can't be in milwaukee, what is your plan b? >> well, chuck, oftentimes when we talk about the convention, it's a binary paradigm. you either have the full convention or virtual convention. there are things in between. we're following the science.

we'll be in milwaukee the week of the 17th. how many people will be there remains to be seen because we will follow the science. we will not abandon the state of wisconsin, the city of milwaukee unlike the republicans who abandoned the state of north carolina and the city of charlotte. we're not going to do that but i'm confident we will continue to follow science and we can have a robust, exciting and inspiring convention where we highlight our values and highlight the historic candidacy of joe biden who will be the uniter in chief in the year where we need that. >> let me put it in way thbri b wrms williams will ask you. are we going to have a balloon drop? will joe biden and his family be on a stage somewhere in america on thursday of the convention week?

>> we hope and expect to. we're going to work with all of our public health professionals to ensure that we can do everything in a safe and appropriate manner because you show that disclaimer. again, they have thrown all sorts of public health science aside. he's in dallas today. dallas reported a record number of cases today in dallas county. he has his hand in the sand. he wants people to think this is no longer there. he said it was going to disappear by april and you're reporting today knowledge is we're not there yet. i think it's always important. democrats do believe in science. we do believe in public health. i'm confident that we can have a robust convention in milwaukee. i'm not going to make a commitment to how many people will be there because we will continue to listen. that's something this president doesn't do. >> do you believe the former

vice president is doing enough public events? do you feel like he's inching out in an appropriate way or more of him in more communities? >> i think over the last week to two weeks, we have seen such a stark difference between vice president biden and president trump. vice president biden was the uniter in chief. his speech in the aftermath of the george floyd murder was pitch perfect. it touched all the points you should touch. we need a consoler in churcief. not a tweeter in chief. joe biden was that. he's a listener-in-chief as well. he went down to houston to pay his respects to the family. what do you have? donald trump rather than battling bigotry wants to battle twitter. rather than bringing us together, he wants to continue to drive us apart. what you didn't note yet in your

reporting is june 19th is a significant day for african-americans. juneteeth. the celebration of emancipation of slaifr ri and the notion he would go to the city of tulsa, the birther president, a person presided over the doubling of african-american unemployment in this country would go to the city of tulsa, the black wall street of 100 years ago and what has he done to black people in america? he has killed them in some places because of his failed response to coronavirus, the unemployment rate, joblessness, hopelessness that he is trying to stoke. the differences between joe biden a donald trump couldn't be clearer. i applaud what the vice president has been doing in coming forward to making sure that the american people know that under a biden leadership we will make government work again. we will work for every one unlike this president who only wants to work for the rich few.

we will make sure that opportunity returns to every one, hope returns to every one and we will take bold action whether it's on police abuse or anything else. >> chairman, you brought up june juneteenth. it's a hollywoiday in washingto d.c. should will be a federal holiday? >> i think that should be one of the interesting things we should debate. i think we should make sure h r harriet tubman gets back on the 20 there are bill. there's smigs ththings like tha be really important messages. we mean what we say that we're talking about america that works for every one. we need to go further. i listen to your discussions with the police commissioner in baltimore. i spent 12 years of my life doing police misconduct work. what that police commissioner was referring to, chuck, was a con sent decree was the result

of a lawsuit filed in the aftermath of freddie gray. the democrats, and i had the privilege of leading the division for the first term of obama, we enforced the pattern and practice laws that gave us the authority to reform police departments.inform police departments. a law written parenthetically by joe biden in the '90s. this administration is affirmatively hostile to those cases. the attorney general said i don't think we need to do this in minneapolis. they've been rolling back those things and doing a disservice to all good law enforcement officers and protecting the bad law enforcement officers by refusing to use their authority. mr. president, you don't need executive authority. enforce the damn laws that you have right now and you could make real progress. >> tom perez, chairman of the dnc. we appreciate you coming on and expressing your views today. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure. >> i miss public events, you know.

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purple and yellow. they are doing a lot of mail voting or all mail voting. some of these states, it is brand new. the other issue is this. one example here. this is from the wisconsin primary here. this is the general election in 2016. this is the number of voting locations in the city of milwaukee and in milwaukee county. this is normal. the normal election. 2016. because of the coronavirus, fewer people available to work these sites. fewer poll workers, fewer facilities available. a lot of public facilities are closed. this is what it looked like. it went from 180. that's the recipe for lines. fewer locations, fewer workers. then once you get inside the location, fewer voting machines because of social distancing. that's a recipe for those lines. >> and? more stuff on the general election ballot. and those ballots will be even longer than these simple ballots that we're dealing with today.

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that's all we have for tonight but we home we packed in a lot for you. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." good evening. >> good evening, chuck. it didn't feel like an hour. i tell you. time is flying these days. welcome to "the beat." i'm in for ari melber. police brutality while getting rebuked by a top military official and facing fresh outrage. we start with remarks late today from trump meeting with law enforcement officials and faith leaders to discuss police reform. sketching out a few proposals but stopping short of endorsing the main items that democrats and a lot of