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trump rejected calls to defund police departments. >> we must invest more energy and resources and police training and recruiting and community engagement. we have to respect our police. the event was an opportunity to announce his administration's plan for quote wholistic revitalization and recovery in the wake of george floyd's killing by a minneapolis police officer. donald trump repeatedly praised police officers and insisted that confronting bigotry will be easy. we have to work together to confront bigotry and prejudice where ever they appear and will make no progress and heal no wounds by falsely labeling tens of millions of decent americans as racists or bigots. we have to get everybody together. we have to be in the same path. if we're going to do that, we have problems and we'll do that. we'll do it. i think that we're going to do it very easily and go quickly

and it will go very easily. >> interesting. the dallas morning news noted that today's event excluded the three top law enforcement officials in the county. police chief, sheriff acti, and district attorney that all happen to be black. the dallas police chief and dallas county sheriff and district attorney were not invited. in terms of actual plans to address policing, trump said that he is planning an executive order to encourage departments to follow use of force standards after he again criticized protests in seattle. on twitter he pushed a response to the protestors labeling them domestic terrorists that have taken over. he told the governor and mayor there to quote take back your city now threatening quote, if you don't do it, i will. the widespread condemnation of trump's use of the military to clear peaceful protestors from lafayette park in washington

last week continues to grow. today the nation's top military officer, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff apologized for his participation in trump's stunt. we'll have more on that later in the hour. and in the washington post op-ed, the managers that tried the case against donald trump pointed to his exploitation of the military arguing that he is as lawless and corrupt as ever. they write, quote, his wrong doing has far greater consequences given the acute challenges facing the nation. the failure of those around him to curb destructive impulses and the continued unwillingness of many members of congress to serve as a meaningful check and balance as the founders intended. congressman adam schiff of california, chairman of the house intelligence committee. thank you for being here. and i want to play back for you a clip of your impeachment closing argument which i

recommend everyone to go on youtube and find and listen to. this is just a piece of it. take a listen. >> now you may be asking how much damage can you really do in the next until the election. a lot. a lot of damage. and you know, we can't trust this president to do what's right for this country. you can trust he will do what's right for donald trump. >> what are you the most worried about him doing between now and election day given what he has already done. >> well, i guess, first of all, i'm worried that they will continue this terrible mishandling of the pandemic of the protests and streets that he will further divide us. he will further leave americans vulnerable and also continue this path of delegitimizing and

absentees seeking to discredit and contesting the results of the election. so that's a lot i know, joy but sadly he's given us every reason to be concerned about all of those things. >> you know, it was striking to hear the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff walk back his participation which shocked so many people including so many military people that he took part in that political photo on. but donald trump has not backed down from what was done. as a matter of fact he seemed to double down on this rhetoric of violence that he seems to sort of want to see committed against protestors. this was donald trump praising the national guard response to minneapolis protests. i want you to take a listen. >> we are very proud of the fact that i called and i said i'm sorry we have to have them go in and they went in and it was like

a knife cutting butter. i'll never forget. you saw the scene. on that road, where ever it may be, in the city, minneapolis, they were lined up and they just walked straight. and they went through it by the end of that evening and everything was find and you didn't hear too much about that location having problems anymore. >> first of all it was the minneapolis police that were the ones accused of mistreating protestors but like a knife through butter, it is a strange way to talk about the american military troops on the streets of an american city. he seems to almost be glorifying just the idea and just imagining violence. it is odd. what do you make of it. >> well, he does glorify violence and from the beginning he is really trying to egg on

this kind of violence in the streets egg on a more mill taristic response by police calling in troops. i was glad to see the general acknowledge the terrible mistake that he made and i think that it was very important that we had people like secretary mattis speak out. that's a big reason why he felt like he needed to do what he did but as we pointed out during the trial, this president is not going to change. he has a love and fast nation around the world and models his own conduct after them. he praised the chinese with the crack down and we can't be surprised when he now lashes out at peaceful protestors, you know, brags essentially about the ability to use police and military force against them and he is not going to change. what we really do need is people around him, people to stand up

to him and speak out and do what they can to constrain him through the remaining months of this presidency. we would be better off if he went back into his bunker and waited out the rest of his presidency instead of doing more harm. >> it wasn't lost on many of us that he turned around and tried to threaten governors the same way he tried to threaten the president of ukraine using the same formula not lost on a lot of americans and just to put a button on his treatment of the way he thinks about the military and the way the rest of the world should treat it he authorized sanctions against international court members that are probing possible afghan war crimes by u.s. personnel. i want to ask you about one other thing while i have you. the other thing, looting can mean a lot of things and i think for a lot of americans what feels like looting is 500 or $600 billion being squirrelled away by the treasury secretary and the american people don't

get to know who got it. here's a headline from the united states. they won't say who got taxpayer backed coronavirus loans. it's the latest of several actions that could shield the response from f response from scrutiny. and congress would presidential supervision. are you going to as a member of congress action as a senior member of congress going to be able to find out for the american people who he is giving that money to? the american people's money. >> we are going to find out. we're going to keep pressing until we do. there will be accountability but true to form the president is resisting all of that. firing inspector generals. going to extraordinary links to try to keep the country, for example, not just these loans

but this whole industry fund. we have very little visibility into how the funds are being used but what we can see is administration characterized by nepotism, cronisim and i think as we saw in the month leading up to the senate trial, the ability to keep things secret only goes so far. the truth comes out in the end. and we just need to make sure that we can hold this person accountable in real time and make sure that the dollars get to americans that really need them. >> thank you so much for your time this evening. really appreciate you being here. >> i'm joined now by the director of political affairs for the black law enforcement alliance. as well as the editor in chief. thank you for being here. mark, i'll go to you first. donald trump went to a meeting

of police officers to try to talk about his quote unquote reform in his mind. but three in that exact county were not invited. what do you make of that? >> the president continues to wallow in his ignorance and it's really shameful. he lacks curiosity. he's the poster child for anti-intellectualism. so he doesn't want to know the truth. he has an opinion and he has a position on policing. he's from a by goner rangers. he's the clear and present danger to the movement so he wouldn't necessarily want to hear expert opinion because he's antiintellectual. he just doesn't have an idea or a clue about what to do. and that's unfortunate and that's very dangerous and that's poisonous for the on going

reform effort. what would they have said? >> giving him perspective. they would have given perhaps a history lesson. they would have given tough talk on the realities that black and brown folk face. they would have perhaps even shared their own personal experiences because i can pretty much guarantee that they themselves in the positions that they have in law enforcement, these are not exempt and are not removed from the realities that the black and brown communities face. and those are the type of conversations that the president

would be repulsed by. he wants to avoid the harsh realities and truths that require reform. so the type of input they would have given would be invaluable but he's not interested in the truth. he has a position. he has a base he's going to cave into and he's going to keep beating that same drum. >> and speaking of that base, donald trump is obviously, he knows that it will stimulate the hardest core of his base. you know, the harshest policing. standing by police no matter what. if somebody is killed, too bad. that's their problem. wanting to almost luxuriating in the idea of seeing violence in the streets because it's against some people. this is a different time. a lot of of the people are white. it's not just black people taking the baton blows in the streets and i wonder if that combined with multiple yen rahals coming out and saying no, this isn't right, does that influence people in your mind

that are true believers. people that listen to right wing talk radio? does that move them at all. >> 1968 is donald trump's focal point. there's always going to be the hardcore base and they're always going b to to be inflamed but h losing the narrative and the culture war. he prides himself on having an instipth of what works. right now he is not reading the room. think about the things that happened in the last 24 hours. you have nascar which is like -- he is like the home team of nascar. they are going to be banning the confederate flag. the nfl continues to move in his

position and then these generals that one after the other are saying their loyalty is to duty and honor. and he finds himself we're facing a pandemic and police violence and economic melt down and you are out there pedaling baseless conspiracy theories dividing the country, pouring kerosene on the fire, who is this guy? so i do think that he's kind of lost the narrative and he's losing this debate.

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welcome back. donald trump haunted by poll numbers and hounded by multiple crises is eager to get back on the m ka pacampaign trail. trips to his luxury resort in new jersey and campaign rallies. trump allies worry that the president lost ground during the coronavirus outbreak. his thirst comes as coronavirus cases continue to rise in 20 states including texas where trump travelled to today. one told the daily beast that

the president seems to think the hardest part of the pandemic is over. over? there are now more than 2 million americans that tested positive and more than 114,000 americans have died. this is the most coronavirus deaths reported by any nation according to a tracker from johns hopkins university and yet, yesterday, trump announced that he would hold big rallies in florida, texas, arizona, and north carolina because his knee is just so intense. and this evening the trump campaign gave details about a rally in tulsa, oklahoma next week. it included this disclaimer. by clicking to register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to covid-19 exists in any public place where people are present. by attending the rally you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure and agree not to hold donald j.

trump for president incorporated liable for any illness or injury. that's the disclaimer. for more, i'm joined now by white house correspondent with politico and the associate professor of infectious diseases at boston university medical school. >> people showing up to his precious rallies might get sick. they might get sick and die and they're willing to accept that risk? >> well, i think they're doing what a lot of businesses are doing which is they are opening but they don't want to have people. they want people to realize what his risks are. he still wants it to go on for the republican national convention this summer.

and they will see what happens. they need to pay the rent. donald trump doesn't need to have the rent. he's doing what he wants to do. this isn't something they need to do. it's something that he wants to do. >> right. he's very anxious to get on the campaign trail and he talked about doing this in september after labor day and then august and july 4th and they decided to do it earlier and it's because he's so anxious to get back to campaigning so you're exactly right. >> we have nbc news reporting that data from 15 million phones showed some americans are gathering at prepandemic levels. people are moving around at a level that's up to 2-thirds of

what it was before shutdown rules were implemented. i want to let them listen and talk about her concerns about covid spikes which are tied to the protests we have seen over the last couple of weeks. >> we did not see a large surge from memorial day weekend. i want to really thank you all for getting to your citizens about social distancing and wearing masks. they are however concerned about the large metros that were already having trouble with stability and whether it be l.a. or chicago or washington d.c., having already instability and at the level of protests, the fact that not all of them wore

masks. this has been a concern as we watched church services take place. he deleted this image but it's still in the archives of him visiting the virginia campaign and he's standing there, you know, surrounded by all of their campaign people, no masks, no social distancing, is this a concern because the protestors are angry about a specific issue and they're choosing to do this because this is their politics to not wear masks and the not social distance. >> we have to make people aware of the fact that any of these gatherings have a chance of more diseases and cases and in some states that's too early for it to be related to protests and in

some cosmopolitan areas you might start seeing that. the three elements of successful opening of society or partial opening of society in the middle of a pandemic which is what we're still in. it doesn't magically disappear. it's ensuring that our public health system is in place so we can test and contact trace that our hospitals are ready and that the public understands what the risks are and what the responsibilities are and what we haven't done a good job of, what our national leadership hasn't done a good job of with perfect example of the photo there is to role model. is to show how important these individual ask. this is how we stay open. and by staying home when we're sick. there's no magic bullet to this. nobody is coming to rescue us. we do this.

it's a political parker. it's being shuffled off by people that follow donald trump. >> that's right. what a way to shoot yourself in the foot because here you are, you want to keep -- all of us want to keep the economy open and president trump has expressed his desire to have it be successful and to do that is to ensure that people can keep going out there and they're not risking their life. and if you're going around telling people don't worry about the mask, how does that make sense? >> it's almost telling people don't worry covid doesn't exist and it does. >> any word or reporting on whether or not they're going to require masks at these rallies? or even offer them? >> yeah, i don't know but there's talk about making or they don't have one, creating a

trump-pence mask. the president hasn't worn the mask as you just said. it's like if he is not wearing the mask why are these other people going to wear the mask. i heard they were talking about spacing them out and we see the invitation or the registration and none of those things are there. 20,000 people come in and thousands are outside as well very close together. so they're going to have a difficult time doing that no matter what they do at this point. >> he regrets participating in trump's tear gas enabled church photo op last week. we're back after this. stay with us. o op last week we're back after this. stay with us normal again. that's why, at cancer treatment centers of america, we aren't waiting.

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after they publicly broke with donald trump apologizing for his role in trump's photo on last week at st. john's church, the chairman of the joints chiefs of staff said publicly today that it was a mistake. >> i should not have been there. my presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics. as a commissioned uniformed officer it was a mistake that i

have learned from and i sincerely hope we can all learn from it. >> nbc news is reporting tonight that his apology comes after he discussed re-signing over the episode. trump on the other hand is still defending the use of the national guard on the peaceful protestors to make way for his photo op. today boasting that those troops could not believe how easy it was to clear lafayette park and his favorite boogie man antifa in the same tweet. he also referred to the u.s. secret service as the s.s. it's never used to refer to that agency and for good reason. he actually wanted to order active duty troops to the streets of d.c. and he almost fired his defense secretary for opposing that move. i'm joined now by the retired army colonel and former chief of staff to secretary of state colin powell that i will note also admonished donald trump for

his misuse of the military. what do you make of the last bit? thank you for being here. that donald trump wanted to put active duty military troops on the streets of american cities. >> i think that's a very dangerous move by the president, particularly under circumstances where as i see the protests all across the country and i have been watching them closely are basically peaceful. there's some thug elements to them but basically they're peaceful. whether san francisco, los angeles, minneapolis where they could be quite different if people really got angry. so using the national guard perhaps around the rims as it were, maybe that might be called for but certainly not active forces and by the way, his move today was very much all for a very brave move prompted by a lot of people and a lot of pressure and a lot of other

generals talking to him. not just those that came public and others that were talking to him in private and took a lot of courage to do that. it should have been done. it should have been done. his statement that that was a political act was absolutely correct. it was a political act by the president of the united states just like when he dispatched troops to the border in the past. that was a political act too. you do not use the armed forces of the united states for political purposes in that sense. >> and the reporting within nbc news and without that part of the reason that he went along with it is they were trying to prevent donald trump from using the insurrection act and trying to appease him. tactics were ordered to appease donald trump but they wounded members of the military. d.c. guard members say they feel demoralized and exhausted.

more than 60% are people of color and one soldier said he and fellow troops were so ashamed in taking part against the protests that they kept it from family members. at a certain point donald trump is counting on the idea that he can use the military like toys. that they're just his little chess pieces to move around like they're army men and that they'll go along. what i'm starting to see is that the military maybe won't go along. what do you make of the fortitude of military members to resist trump's increasing it will they be used in that way? >> joy, i think all presidents, especially in the last 20 years -- i have students now that never lived in a country that wasn't at war. all presidents use the military. it's a great prop. it makes them look good, this president however has used the military in really bad and dangerous ways and he has used

it at the same time that in the military everyone knows he is the bone spur president. and that doesn't go over very big in the military. so it's a dangerous thing for him to be doing. for any president. >> let me play you the way that he also seems to think about military generals. he hired a bunch of them. they have all since gone. here's donald trump overtime. >> i see my generals, generals are going to keep us so safe. >> and i have generals. it's called the military industrial complex. they're great people. >> i authorize my military. >> the first order i gave to my generals. >> my washington generals. >> my generals. >> some of my great generals are in the back. these are tough cookies. >> you know, joe biden, former vice president joe biden was on the daily show last night and he said that he fears that donald trump will try to steal the election but if he tries to stay

and lots of people are having this conversation about what happens if he decides he doesn't accept the results of the election if he were to lose and decides he ain't going and joe biden addressed that and he said that he is absolutely convinced that the united states military will escort him from the white house with great dispatch. are you confident that if donald trump tries something strange -- not strange in the world right? it happens in countries all the time, but tries no t to go, that the military will stand against him. >> i belong to a group called the national task force for election crises and since last summer, last summer we have been studying this and we have been postulating these various scenarios and coming up with recommendations for actions. one involves an unwise deployment of the military or

inactive duty forces and we have a lot to say about that and your question, brings to light the fact that other americans are thinking about it. >> it makes me a bit nervous and scared that you're thinking about it. it's always a pleasure to talk to you. please come back. thank you so much. >> still ahead, senator corey booker talks to us about the trump-biden match up and trump's alarming choice of where and when to hold his first post pandemic or still currently pandemic campaign really. stay with us. from sh campaign really stay with us from s 'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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a day celebrated by black americans marking the end of slavery and for doing so of all places in tulsa, oklahoma the site of the deadliest race riot in american history in 1921 when the black wall street section of tulsa was burned and bombed and destr destroyed. thank you for being here. what do you make of the decision of the place and date of holding his rally?

and i admit i always thought this was a bombing of a street, of a section, but this was an entire community. thousands of homes, businesses flattened. the last structure standing being at the church where the pastor there is doing an amazing job of trying to work and this history is never forgotten. so for him not to recognize this but not only to go there to do a rally where we are sure to see signs of many of the supporters who do belief in white supremacy's failure to actually condemn those elements of those narrow elements of the space, but for him to do it on june

that he should be recognizing as the president of the united states is all the more disrespectful and painful but not surprising. >> yeah. i mean, i guess it's hard to know if it's worse that he doesn't understand or if he does, right? or if he really understands it and maybe a motivation to go, anyway. here's joe biden, former vice president joe biden. he was on the daily show last night and talked a lot about donald trump and the issue of racism. take a listen. >> donald trump didn't invent racism but he sure has promoted it and the disparities of the country, especially in the economy right now, the combination, there's just an awful combination, covid-19, unemployment, systemic racism, and what is happening in terms of the way in which the george floyds death took place. >> and, you know, now you had donald trump go down to dallas county and not talk to any of the top -- not invite the three

top black police members of the police force down there. they were not invited to this event today and during the event he said the answer for policing is to spend more money, give police give police more money and that everything is fine. what do you make of that? i mean, joe biden has also said give police more money. what is the difference between those two ideas? >> well, i just want to challenge the idea in and of itself. when we say public safety in america, unfortunately, we are too narrowly seeing it as law enforcement. i had a conversation with the head of the fbi talking about just gang issues and violence and sharing with me the intelligence the fbi had, i looked at him, i just wanted to see his response and said, how do we solve this? he said to me, we don't solve this problem. in other words, law enforcement is not the solution to these problems. we're treating the symptoms of

them. we need to expand our views of public safety in our country, to not see it in terms of police but see it in terms of health care and mental health care, drug treatment and helping those that are economically insecure. we need to stop defunding public education and more. it is shameful the way donald trump seems to see this problem to think we must become a police state and that's how we make this a safer country. no, that's how we make this an authoritarian society. 58 plus million people who voted for donald trump, our brothers and our sisters, we are one nation. they are not our enemy. what i'm really pleased to see happening this week, especially after what he did last week in lafayette park, is more and more people are willing to come out and speak to the issues. even if they're not abandoning do donald trump or the belief that a republican should be the next president, they're willing to say what this president is doing

is acting like an authoritarian leader, threatening our principals. and the fear you see about people begin to speak out about the worries that for the first time in history that we might actually have a president that does not support the peaceful transition of power, all these things are stress tests and warning signs, and we are one nation who should show out of love and respect for our traditions a deeper critique of this president and his actions. >> well, i want to ask you what you think that donald trump, the things -- a couple pins in, you had donald trump lauding the confederate. this is the commander in chief of the united states, lauding the confederacy and saying we should honor statues of a rogue set of traders that went to war against the united states. that's one piece. you have police that he's giving the message, be rougher, be tougher. there was a situation in oklahoma where police officers were told, i can't breathe by yet another man and said, i don't care.

he wound up dying. you have in new jersey, you have a man who was in obvious mental distress also killed, shot six times. you now have in chicago bobby rush, who already went through the fred hampton slaying by chicago police. he survived, but he experienced that as a lieutenant to him. chicago police this week made popcorn and coffee in his office while nearby businesses were being looted. police are getting a message from donald trump that everyone are not their brothers and sisters. that they have to act in a very different way toward other americans. what do you make of that? >> donald trump is doing everything he can to keep alive the rusty, jagged, dangerous machinery of what has been the mainstream of much of our d

distraught past, in other words the type of policing written about in the kerner report that we saw martin luther king speak about on police brutality in the march on washington, the type of policing that led to explosions of rebellions and riots in cities like mine. and he is still trying to preach the same, tired, rusty, broken, dangerous ideals that we heard from nixon, law and order. so this presents a stark contrast for americans. yeah. i'm sorry. go ahead. >> given that, should good police departments that have now been so influenced get more in the budgets of american cities or should mayors -- used to be a mayor -- have more flexibility to say we're going to reduce your funding and put more money into mental health services, so they respond to mental health crises, not the police. >> i don't think that's a question. i think it's an obvious answer. we are a nation that has not put

money in the resources that we know -- heck, i posted about this on my instagram account today. there are proven low cost options for american taxpayers that secure our communities far greater than resources for police can. this is no longer a question. it is so proven to be bankrupt, this ideal that the way you create more public safety is simply by putting more police on the streets. we have underfunded drug treatment, health care, mental health care. we have criminalized poverty and race. so this is to me not even a debatable topic anymore. we now know from study after study from demonstration project after demonstration project that we can lower our reliance on prisons, elevate potential by having policies that empower

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