when we actually passed the bills. i said i was actually more emotional when my house and andrea's house agreed on the bills because that's when we knew that we were going to be able to get it done. at that point it was just a mechanical process of getting the bills passed. but when we agreed on a package of legislation that the governor has said that he is going to sign, that's when i was emotional because growing up as a young black man, there's a lot of times that i had not so positive interactions with the police. i've had not so positive interactions with the police even as the speaker of the assembly. they didn't know i was the speaker of the assembly. i never mentioned anything. growing up when you heard the stories, as a black man i felt, you know, that could be me. and i think that that is the reason why this has really

started to hit at the hearts of people, like i said, enough is enough is enough is enough. i'm hear we're here where we are today but we have so much work to do. my heart goes out to all of the families, all of the mothers who had to suffer through this. constance malcolm said to me that every time this happens, and i'm sure miss carr and miss bell will say every time -- >> and good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. you've been watching governor cuomo and of course the speaker of the state assembly. this as nationally president trump is at his bedminister home but has left behind a whirl wind of controversies on police, politics and the pandemic. the president's continued sharp criticism of pro ttesters focusg on seattle where he is slamming

the democratic mayor and jay inslee for permitting peaceful pro tessetesters to occupy six blocks. in dallas president trump described the national guard forcibly pushing minneapolis protesters last week from city streets as beautiful. >> they went in and it was like a knife cutting butter, right through. boom. i'll never forget. you saw the scene, on that road, wherever it may be in the city, minneapolis. and, yes, there was some tear gas and probably some other things and the crowd dispersed and they went through it. by the end of that evening, and it was a short evening, everything was fine. >> mr. trump is sparking tensions with pressure on governors to reopen their states, even as covid-19 cases spike. and his campaign taking the extraordinary step requiring anyone attending his tulsa rally

next week to sign a waiver absolving the campaign of any damage. >> your rally in oklahoma is set for june 19th. was that on purpose? >> no, but i know exactly what you're going to say. >> i'm just asking. i've not got neg anything to sa. >> think about it as a celebration. my rally's a celebration. >> joining me, vaughn hillyard, ashley parker and kristen welker. kristen, let's talk about the president lashing out about the protest and his campaign, including the pandemic.

>> reporter: that's right. the president is digging in, andrea, not on on his law and order messaging, but essentially the desire to turn the page, to restart campaigning. he is going to be in tulsa next friday. he was pressed there by fox news about the decision to hold it on juneteenth, this day that means so much not only the african-american community but within the united states history. you heard the president there say think of it as a celebration. now, it's our understanding he is going to address the significance of juneteenth, of course marking the day that slaves were freed in this country. it will be interesting to see what specifically he has to say. typically trump rallies are predominantly not minority communities and so what will his message there be? we'll have to see. but this is a president who is not afraid to engage in the culture wars, andrea, and he's not afraid to dig in on this law and order messaging, threatening

to send in the national guard or military if the protests don't tamp down in seattle. as you point out, they are largely peaceful protests. the mayor was speaking out overnight essentially reiterating that point, but a very different message from president trump. all of this comes as his response to the george floyd crisis has come under increased scrutiny. yesterday the president saying he's close to finalizing an executive order that would essentially not only invest more money in minority communities but would also enhance training of police departments all across the country. but no specifics, no details and no timeline on when that is actually going to be finished, andrea. i spoke with an administration official and said when is there going to be an announcement about the executive order. the response i got was in the coming days. i do think all of that underscores a president and an administration that's really grappling and struggling with how specifically to respond to this crisis, to these nationwide protests calling for change,

andrea. >> and, vaughn, there in seattle, there is the continuing protest and the conflict with the mayor and the governor. this is what the president had to say to fox news about what we're seeing this week in seattle. >> we're not going to let this happen in seattle. if we have to go in, we're going to go in. the governor's either going to do it -- let the governor do it. he's got great national guard froo troops. he can do it. one way or the other it's going to get done. these people are not going to occupy a major portion of a great city. >> that phrase "one way or the other it's going to get done," it's certainly suggesting overruling the governor. that brings up the whole issue of the insurrection act again, that threat to take charge even over the objections of a governor. >> reporter: exactly, andrea. as pete williams has outlined over the last two weeks, the president is threatening to use

the insurrection act. he has that authority if local law enforcement is not able to effectively protect their communities. that's an important point to make. if you look at what happened here in seattle, the mayor and police chief, the city decided on monday, it was their decision to pull back police, not only from the streets of those six blocks there but also from the east precinct of the police department. for more than a week you had seen a standoff that had resulted in violence between the police, using tear gas and pepper spray and flashbang grenades and protesters deer si -- deciding to hold their ground in their neighborhood. but now you have six blocks that have turned in more like a festival atmosphere. you have the food trucks that are open, the favorite taco shop is open, there's couches that are out there. folks are engaging in

conversations as they tell me about social justice issues. it's not exactly as the president of the united states has depicted. we should note that the police chief does say that her officers need to gain access again and reestablish themselves in that precinct. i want to let you see the tweet that the president, though, despite this pushback from the mayor's office, just in the last hour he tweeted in part, quote, the terrorists burn and pillage our cities and they think it is just wonderful, even the death. must end this seattle takeover now. when you talk to the neighbors here, every night you have several thousand folks going through this neighborhood. they frankly say they just smile and laugh at the suggestion that the military would be called in because, as they say, they feel more at peace this week than they did when they were clashing with the police. andrea? >> and ashley parker, let's talk about the president's overall attitude towards all of this. he does not seem very concerned about the controversies that

he's creating. in fact, he's putting a disclaimer, that unusual waiver he's distributing to anyone who attends the maga rally on saturday for any potential of someone who does get covid-19. >> that is the key acknowledgement with the on-the-ground are the, which is at odds of what the president is saying, that it's absolutely safe to rush to life, he wants the governor to open their states and just moved the convention to jacksonville where he can have a big rally. he wants those crowds. he doesn't want to look out on masked faces but that waiver is the acknowledgement of packing a bunch of people into a stadium, many of whom because they're following the president's lead, may not be wearing masks is actually potentially quite dangerous and he does not want

himself or his campaign to be held liable. so i think it undercuts a little bit the president's message that this is business as usual. >> ashley parker, vaughn hillyard, kristen welker, thanks very much to all. let's take a deeper look at the president's rally next week and the significance this month. next friday marks juneteenth. the month of june is a source of pain because of the massacre that took place 99 years ago, racial violence, killing residents, destroying a community. tulsa's ame church was in the path of the destruction, their sanctuary completely destroyed. it took seven long years to

complete the reconstruction after the massacre. that church and their congregation are now still a critical part of the community to this day, 99 years later. reverend dr. robert turner is the pastor at the historic ame church and joins me now. doctor turner, talk to me about the significance of what happened 99 years ago, the church rebuild and what it means to your community today. >> andrea, so nice to be on your show today. what happened here 99 years ago was the largest massacre in american history. because of the success and embas excellence of the black community and the greenwood area at that time, that did not bode well for them as far as their white neighbors and counterparts. they did not like to see african-americans be that successful. and so they may 31st through

june the 1st came through this community shooting, looting, dropping bombs. in fact, the very time america was victimized by aerial assault, aerial terrorism was right here in the greenwood community and the devastation was so vast, they killed people. the bodies were dumped in mass graves and to this day we still don't have an accurate count of how many people were actually killed because their bodies are still lying in mass graves. and none of the families of their descendens have received reparation, the insurance companies have never paid any claim. the city has never said they were liable, even though it was the sheriff's department that deputized the white mob and the fire department that watched greenwood burn to the ground and the state national guard that watched the bodies be dumped in

mass graves. until this day, nothing has been done as far as atoning of justice. >> and what about the current efforts to get the mayor, the governor, to be involved in terms of reparations and in terms of the mass graves and trying to give a proper burial to all of the people who died? >> well, this mayor has stated on record that he feels reparations is divisive. that to me is baffling. what happened was divisive. racism is divisive. i think atoning for racism, racist acts, is not divisive, it is justice. the governor has yet to go on record for reparations. we right now i'm serving on the mayor's excavation committee. we've had several hurdles, land owners not being willing to

cooperate with our excavation, the city trying to work out a deal with them that's taken too long. finally, i believe we're supposed to be starting excavation in july, which is still 99 years late. and we -- every day we wait, our bodies are lying in unmarked graves. as an a.m.e. pastor, we like to bury our dead. we believe in that committal, when we say, ashes to ashes and dusk to dusk, we believe in it. >> we have been watching the pbs series this week on reconstruction. i know -- i was raised in the civil rights era. i thought i knew a lot about jim crow life but i have been just astounded by some of the imagery

and that really came to a head with the organized white mob that you describe authorized by the city, by the police and sheriff's department. that's what existed for decades throughout the south. >> absolutely. and not only did it happen once, the massacre, but every time there was a black person bold enough to say something about what happened here in 1921, they went missing. like they were lynched. that intimidate of silence that the white community forced upon this area is reason number one why most people did not know about the race and massacre up until recently because they put the literal fear of god in any black person who dared speak up about it. and so that terrorism still was in the minds of african-americans in our community and thankfully recently we have been able to speak more about it.

professor ogletory in 2000 led a wonderful effort to try to get reparations. there is now an effort afoot now. i have a petition. every week i go to city hall asking for repentance from the city and we have a petition now for people to sign in support of reparations because it is just past time for this to be done. >> well, what concerns, if any, do you have about the president holding a rally in tulsa at this time of increased focus, concern, anxiety and inspiration actually in terms of doing something about racism, systemic racism, about bringing a rally to tulsa right now and especially on juneteenth? >> i'm highly dis gugusted that this president of ours, 45, has the audacity to on june 10th, the day in which we celebrate

our liberation from chattel slavery, he chooses that day to launch his reelection campaign. it is disgusting because this is the same president that has sympathized with neoconfederates. just recently he's chosen not to rename the military bases that are named in honor of confederate journalist. and i think that is definitely sad -- let me turn this off. i think that is definitely sad. >> sure thing. working from home is an issue. >> it is. it's the same president -- >> go ahead. >> it's the same president that said after charlottesville that there's good on both sides. so for him to now be coming here on juneteenth, that day that we

celebrate our independence i think is very disrespectful, especially because on the heels of george floyd's murder and the minneapolis police department, he's not once said, i've ever heard him say the words black lives matter. he's not once signed the bill or said he would sign the bill mentioned about lynching. now lynching is not a federal crime. so how dare he come here now to try to get some votes during the midst of this economic crisis, this health pandemic and it seems as though he cares more about black votes than black people. >> we're going to have to leave it there, but we want to thank you. thank you for all you're doing in your community and thanks for being with us today. it means a great deal to me. dr. robert turner, the pastor of

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with coronavirus cases surging cross the country, here are the facts. officials in houston are warning that the city is on the precipice of disaster. and in tennessee, mayor john cooper is delaying the next phase of reopening as music city reports an uptick in covid-19 cases. several executives slam being fema calling the protective gear sent from the federal government glorified garbage bags. nearly 40,000 people have died at u.s. nursing and long-term care facilities. in and in florida, a month over opening, new cases are hitting a record high. governor desantis says there is no spike. >> long-term care, prison, agriculture, those tend to be areas where you've had more significant outbreaks. we've had 2,000 to 2,200, 2,300

covid hospitalizations pretty significantly. go look at what new york had. there's a spike. there's just never been a spike in florida. >> well, nbc news correspondent sam brock joins us from coconut grove. over 2,000 people have died in florida but the governor is saying there's essentially no problem. >> reporter: governor desantis down playing this recent spike that we've seen. the deaths in florida has been on a decline and it largely pertains to populations in their 80s or 90s but in terms of a total number of cases, it is a completely different story from what he just presented. we're essentially seeing a brand new record high every single day now in florida. the numbers from today were 1,902 cases. yesterday it was 1,698. those were both highs.

the seven-day average is the same that the peak was in april. the governor said we're testing more, he thinks that's part of it. he also says it is disp disproportionately affecting the agricultural populations. look at this chart. these are the three counties in florida that have the most cases, miami dade, broward county and palm beach county the light blue on the map right there shows it was declining. well, now all of a sudden starting in early june, you see the orange/yellow, that means it going up. in all these counties with the largest concentration of cases, we're seeing a rise, from the hard rock casino opening to miami beach earlier this week. that's a very tenuous situation to see economic activity improving and increasing right now, andrea.

>> thanks so much to you, sam. as cases and hospitalizations of covid-19 are spiking, president trump is trying to avoid the pandemic crisis. the white house is sidelining the cdc, as well as dr. anthony fauci. speaking with rachel madudow lat night. >> we have a pandemic and it's not just miraculously going to stop. there are parts of the country that have never been on full lockdown, never brought their numbers down for any consistent period of time, and they're already going into phase three opening, meaning just about everything is going to be open. here's where the insanity is. you don't have a national strategy. >> joining me now is dr. mario ramirez, the nashville-based emergency room physician and former coordinator of pandemic and emerging threats at the department of health and human

services. dr. ramirez, where you are, as well as arizona are seeing spikes. >> i think it's worth comparing to nashville and those other cities. we have case counts rising on a state level and governors issuing superseding orders saying things can't slow down or close back down. we have mayors saying we need to close back down. so what you're seeing in nashville is we're going to hold here at phase two and not go to phase three. it was a bold and responsible move. in other places, they say the

mayor says we're not going to close down and they continue to see a rise in results. >> is this a second wave, looking broadly across the country as to what we're seeing? >> it's hard to say if this constitutes a true second wave. when people talk about a second wave, we're talking about a much larger peak of waves. i don't know that we've fully come out of the first wave. in a lot of parts of the country, particularly areas, we never came out of the first phase. i think we're seeing a sustained rise rather than a true second wave. >> i want to ask you about vaccines. moderna has started the final testing stage. more moving into phase three with human testing. how much progress are you seeing? is this better than expected? >> yeah, it's very muddled, to be honest, andrea.

there are by my count about 130 free clinical vaccines and really only one that has moved to early phase three. but in each of those phases, you need to have an adequate number of volunteers to test whether the vaccine works and you need to watch things to make sure people are not being infected. it's the plan with operation warped speed. to test each candidate on 30,000 volunteers so we about 150,000 samples. we haven't approached any of those numbers yet. i heard some companies say they're hoping to have an early vaccine by october or around that time frame but that will be i think at this point untested and really not anything close to scale. i still think we're looking very much at a '20/'21 timeline if everything goes well. >> thank you very much dr. mario

ramirez. it's always good to see you. >> president trump is going to west point tomorrow to deliver the commencement speech to the cadets. critics say he is endangering the health of those attending the gathering. this is what senator tammy duckworth said when the plans were announced in april. >> forcing all of these cadets, a thought of them into a single location so the president can speak at them is really a failure of his role as commander in chief. >> joining me is four star general barry mccaffrey. first of all, your thoughts about the west point graduation. because there's a letter also, a published letter to the class of 2020 there, published from

federal members writing sadly the government has threatened to use the army in which you serve as a weapon against fellow americans engaging in these legitimate protests. the principle of civilian control is central to the military profession but that does not imply blind obedience. so there is the concern. it may have been that that letter was formulated before general milley's apology yesterday, but what are your thoughts in general? >> well, i think the president going to speak at west point was prompted largely by vice president pence's fairly good reception here at the air force academy. the graduation ceremony tomorrow will be completely safe. they're going to be out in the plain, they'll be socially distanced. mechanically i don't think it's a big problem. the corps cadets will be

extremely courteous. by the way, andrea, we have our first black superintendent in the history of west point, general darrell will iiamswilliy respected, will be presiding over the function. i think it will be just fine. the president normally has a 50/50 chance of disgracing himself in any given event. we'll have to watch for that. hopefully he won't provoke a political theme at that graduation. by the way, i didn't sign that letter to the gararaduates. we need to stay away from politicizing the military. let the chain of command deal with these young gararaduates. i think milley is one of the finest officers we've ever had. he got sandbagged on that

photo-ophoto look, the country's in an uproar. your interview with that pastor in tulsa choked me up. it's astonishing the mess this president has got us in. >> thanks for recognizing that. he's an extraordinary religious leader, faith leader there. i was just shocked, frankly, at the timing of the announcement. first of all, announcing a rally and demanding immunity waivers from anybody attending a maga rally and then doing it on that day. thanks for pointing out that there needs to be a division between the military and politics. and when you said the president has a 50/50 chance, i have seen him at bases in south korea and elsewhere in the u.s. giving basically blatantly political

speeches, bragging about his military accomplishments, his administration falsely claiming credit for the advance in, you know, the defense budget under he is reign when it was the military improvements were started before he took office. presumably this is a teleprompter speech, a scripted speech and one hopes this will not happen again. but as you point out, his record of speaking to military bases inappropriately is really a bad one. >> yeah, no question. you know, i think -- he clearly likes to use the military as a prop. he thinks it's his base. i would never ask a serving military officer their viewpoints about president trump, but i am convinced there's a general notion, there's sort of a collective horror at what's happening. calling for torture of enemy combatants, interfering

internally in the justice system of the armed forces, pardoning people accused of war crimes before they go to trial, it's just incredible lawless behavior by the commander in chief. if some two-star general used command influence on military justice, we'd sack him. so, again, there's just no way around it. i hope tomorrow is a benign event. we don't want these beautiful young people about to get commissioned as second lieutenants to the united states army to be part of a shameful political event by trump. >> let me ask you about renaming the bases. what is your view on that? >> well, for several years i've been pretty outspoken on it. it's just simply unbelievable that ten major army installations are named after confederate generals, some of whom were involved in the ku klux klan. a bunch were even third rate

confederate generals. we should have corrected this years ago. it was world war i and part of getting the south reconciled to support the war started a lot of these bases and naming them after the confederate generals. we have to correct it. it's an outrage. name them after medal of honor recipients and get on with it. but after trump leaves office. this will be a racial issue in his hands. >> barry mccaffrey, it's always a privilege to talk to you. thank you so much, general. coming up, the death of george floyd is becoming a catalyst of a seismic shift. why this time things may be different. connie schultz, a pulitzer prize writer, with her unique take coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. reports" on msnbc.

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he was holding a toy gun when he was shot and killed by a police officers. she writes "they were sad that innocent people had died but at a distance. he was somebody's boy, somebody else's tragedy. here we are six years later, struggling how to grieve." joining me is connie schultz, professor in residents at kent state university. it's great to see you. >> thank you. >> connie, i had a question when i read that, are white people grieving? are they capable in large numbers of grieving for the loss of a black child, a black woman in his bed in louisville? or is there something different this time because they witnessed 8:46 of a murder? >> i think we should be capable

of this grief. when we stop thinking of our fellow black americans as suffering in the black community rather than our community, when we start seeing these as our losses, too, the grief bubbles up automatically and it can consume us. i think the biggest difference is for the most unfortunate of reasons. we've been living with three and a half years now of a racist administration, and it's just one racist assault after another after another. and so we have finally gotten the attention of a lot more people. but i still am longing for more voices. one of the reasons i say be quiet white people is that we are not the experts right now. we are not going through this in the same way, no matter how much we empathize. i particularly learn to hear from more black mothers and grand mothers. i live in the city of cleveland.

these are the women i'm shopping at the grocery store with them, standing in line with them at the pharmacy and for years we've been talking about how afraid they've been for their children and their grandchildren. >> and is this time different as well because people are experiencing it through social media? is there a greater level of empathy now do you think in the white community for what black people have experienced, the terror of their lives when their sons, their partners, their husband, go out as to whether or not they're even going to be able to return to be alive? >> tamir rice, the video of him being shot, he was 12 years old. it went viral. everyone had seen it. i'll never another get what his mother told me a year after his death. she regularly watched that video. when she told me that, i had to ask why would you keep looking at that? she said i keep trying to figure

out did he know, did tamir know what was about to happen to him? because he was playing with an air gun and within two seconds after the police pulled their cruiser up feet away from him, one of the officers, who should never have been hired, cleveland later somewhat confirmed, shot him and he died hours later. i so often struggled why that wasn't enough. and perhaps it is that we're seeing more of it. perhaps these videos are accumulating. perhaps white americans, more of us, are starting to understand this is our problem, too, and we came to that realization because donald trump is certainly our problem. and, again, i think we have to acknowledge how much of an impact his influence is having, first of all, on people's -- there are so many attacks on black people right now and latinos, too, and more attacks

on the lgbqt community and perhaps americans, there are so many good people in this country, of that i've never been in down bubt, but if you don't k up now, your children and grandchildren will know of you differently and perhaps remember you differently and that is where people are finding their coura courage. >> thank you for your voice. i know you know as much of anybody about the politics of ohio through your husband sherrod brown. i'm eager to read the book. and coming up, in these divided times, a look at the power of music to effect change. effect e hot! hot!

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school students around the world carried on virtually holding its annual festival this week as the young musicians played in unison online. the program is led by jazz legend renowned trumpet player wynton marsalis, who also answered the students' questions about how they can get more involved in police reform in the aftermath of george floyd's murder. >> we've are witnessing civil unrest. i also believe the role of music, specifically jazz music, has been played through history as a vessel, a connection for every man, woman or child regardless of race, color, creed. do we hold roles and responsibilities in regards to these movements today? >> you find it in jazz the level of involvement in civil rights has gone down over the years. it becomes more and more difficult to find figures with

the type of fire in their tongue like coltrane. i encourage you to be for real and to add that to your arsenal of things. >> joining me the artistic director, nine-time grammy winner wynton marsalis. talk to me about your students on how you've been able to have the jazz festival and how you've been able to engage them on the current crisis we're all facing in this country. >> the band directors all over the world, and jazz students are always on top of civil and social issues because of the nature of music. it's a worldwide community of people who are always interested in civil rights, and we're happy to see them activated. so they don't get any push back on us.

we free them to express their power and we embrace the energy of their empowerment and we focus it with intelligence like we do in our music. >> i was really struck by your column in "the guardian" when you wrote -- you quoted abe bra ha -- abraham lincoln. "we're seeing the same problems with race that abraham lincoln once come playplained about." you asked whether our democracy is up to the challenge. talk to me about that and how you're leading your students through this really difficult time. >> well, it is a question that we have to ask ourselves. democracy is receding around the world. when it comes to the struggle that's required to deal with our way of life, the powerful coalition of americans, black and white, male, female across the lines, it is required to

create real change, we've seen that we're not up to that. we weren't up to it after the civil war. that cost the lives of several hundred thousand people. we were not up to it when we appealed reconstruction, not up to it after the civil rights movements. they discovered there's been a transfer of wealth. we're not in the street do. it had something to do with entitlement and whiteness. these things are fake. when you look at things that happened in our government, the last tax plan, are the majority of white americans happy with how they were treated? instead on these tv shows getting fed propaganda. look at the facts of it and how it affects your life. we're a stronger country when we embrace our most fundamental and sacred ideals together and those people who believe in them form themselves in alliance against those who don't believe in it.

we're not an empire. we're a republic. we have to make the choice at a certain point. are we an empire or are we a republic? jazz music has always said we are a republic. i don't have to change my rhetoric at this time. i've been very consistent because my rhetoric comes from all the jazz musicians, black ones and white ones. it could be john lewis, jerry mulligan, dizzy gillespie. the list goes on and on with great musicians i've played with and those artistic people i've studied with, their vision was all the same about what it take to protect freedoms in the struggle to achieve democratic balance. >> it strikes me that there is something about improvisation about the freedom and the spirit of jazz. you talked about, you know, mingus and monk and all the greats before and since. is there something so democratic

about jazz musicians that makes it all of one piece? >> it's unbelievably democratic. it's our mythic art form. first of all, we have improvisation, which is about your personal freedom and you embassy press yoursel-- express. the second is you recognize that freedom in other and you try to achieve a balance with them and it forces you to listen as hard and as unprejudiced as you speak. the second is the blues. the blues teaches you that sometimes things don't work out and you need to be an adult and not naive and use your will to change. we see our students around the world embracing this. our country should have a leadership role in embracing the world.

the last words of abraham's lincoln's quote is self-interest. this is the thing we've fallen into the type of segregation and stupidity, listening to any kind person on very complex issues, like barber shop level conversation. these are not barber shop level problems. not saying we shouldn't discuss it in barber shops, but that shouldn't be a point of view of where people follow it. jazz music teaches us to be up to that challenge because of the virtue osity of the musicians and their sacrifice that we see in the music across time. >> i wanted to also say i know your teacher, your patriarch ellis marsalis that you lost him to koef covid.

he was such a great musician and such a great leader. >> thank you so much. >> thinking of you and your family and the tradition. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." up next, chuck today speaks with senior adviser to president obama valerie jarrett. first let's listen to wynton marsalis and his students playing us out. ♪ ♪ when the world gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. with fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management. and tailored[♪]commendations. when you have diabetes, managing your blood sugar is crucial.

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good afternoon in the east, good morning out west. i'm chuck todd. here are the latest headlines. president trump is in new jersey ahead of his kmebsme mecommence address tomorrow amid covid-19 fears. this as john bolton said he would be hard pressed to identify any significant trump decision during his time in the white house that, quote, wasn't driven by reelection considerations.