welcome to friday. it's "meet the press daily." we're going to begin with a sobering reality about the coronavirus pandemic. even as cases are turning downwards in big cities like new york, they're going the opposite direction in much of the rest of the country. the number of deaths nationwide topped 114,000. the number of reported c eed ca well over two million. we are still averaging about

240u new cases day in this country. the number has plateaued over the past few weeks. we haven't bent the curve. we sort of sloped and now it's plateauing there. despite cases being on the decline many the northeast and midwest, that's because numbers are on the rise in the south and the west as you can see here. it isn't that we're in a sec wave so much as the first waver is now crashing over the regions that weren't hit as hard during the earlier part of this wave. for instance, arizona and florida reported record number of cases today. five other states are reporting record numbers this week. the governor of oregon that is seeing a new spike has decided to pause her state's reopening. >> the noticeable increase in covid-19 infections in oregon over the past week is certainly cause for concern. this is essentially a statewide yellow light. this one week pause will give our public health experts time

to assess what factors are driving the spread of the virus and determine if we need to adjust our approach to reopening. >> the city of nashville also has put a pause on its reopening plan amid rising cases there. in houston officials say they may reimpose stay at home order there. a top cdc official says if cases go upstates may need to implement the restrictions put in place three months ast. now the university of washington institute for me ritrics is raig its predicted death toll by 20,000. they now project 170,000 total deaths by october 1st. we're just over 110 now. the white house coronavirus task force hasn't held a public briefing in nearly seven weekwe. the president has rally scheduled for one week from today. every one attending must now agree to a liability waiver that

they will not hold the campaign or venue responsible if they contract the virus. the virus was compared to bad storm that he still believes will all just go away. >> look, i'm not the health expert but on these so called spike, i spoke to our health experts at some length last evening. they are saying there is no second spike. let me repeat that. there is no second spike. this hurricane, the bad snowstorm, this terrible pandemic, virus is going to go away. we will be okay. people have to keep their chins up, i think. >> joining me now is joseph fair. he recently got over the virus. dr. fair, let's fact check larry

kudlow a little bit. i guess he's right. this is not a second wave because we're still in the first wave. can you imagine that if he did talk to the health experts on the task force they would have sort of led him to believe, don't worry. this going way. the bad snowstorm is over. the bad hurricane is over. >> well, obviously it depends on the expert but if it's dr dr. fauci, birx, redfield, i would imagine them not going along with it. this is no problem and keep carrying on and going on about your business. that being said, chuck, he's technically right. as you said, it's semantics but it's still the first wave because we kind of levelled off because we did the essential distancing but now that we're relaxing that, we're seeing the second, i guess you can call it spike in cases. >> what do you attribute this

to? is it with the reopening combined with protests? are we seeing today the impact from memorial day weekend, dr. fair? >> absolutely. we're always going to see the results like a week or two weeks later than when the event occurred or when the transmission occurred. say you have a riot or a mass gathering. you'll see anywhere from 5 five to ten days after that, people infected at the riot or mass gathering. it's a combination of all of those things combined. quarantine fatigue. i don't know if they coined the term but quarantine fatigue. that's a real thing. people are tired of being locked up. they want to get outside and dropping their guard. kind of thinking this is all over while it's very much not over. i can tell you that myself. >> yeah. why don't you -- i guess the good news is you have research that would, for those of us with lockdown fatigue, that it's been a good thing. explain. >> yes. our team has been doing a lot of

research trying to understand what are the ben if i wants of these lockdowns. what are we getting in return for this tremendous personal sacrifice across the country. there's been real economic tragedy everywhere we look. that is super easy to see. what we have been trying to do is get a lot of data and understand what we're getting in terms of health benefits. if people don't die or infections don't occur, you don't see those things not happen. we have to try to look into the data to figure out what are the benefits that were accruing. we collected data from six different countries. the united states is one of them. we looked at south korea, china, italy, france and iran. we found these different types of non-pharmaceutical interventions, these lock douns adouns -- lockdowns and policy vs averted roughly 500 million infections across just those six countries and just up to the

beginning of april. if you were to do this calculation globally or extent it to the present, the number would be a lot larger. i think what this means is that things are working. things are bad as they are but they could be far, far worse. we think it's been a rough 2020 for everybody. this is really nice moment to -- go ahead. >> is there a specific type of non-pharmaceutical intervention that worked better than others? masks, social distancing, lockdown? is there way you could see in there depending -- different countries had sort of different versions of lockdowns. >> absolutely. we were looking across the board at the different policies that happen in these countries and not all of them had lock downs. south korea never had a lockdown the way we see it in other countries.

what we have -- the goal of the study was to try to figure out which policies are work and which are not working. they are all really difficult and if we can avoid the difficult, non-effective ones that would be great. we see things where people are working from home. isolating people who are already sick. those have large beneficial effects. things like transition restrictions are less clear. there's a few policies, things like closing schools where there's a huge cost. very difficult to have the kids at home not going to schools. it's a big impact on the kids. it's not to say we know for sure that it doesn't work but we don't see it jumping out of the data as sort of having a big effect in terms of slowing down the sfrepread. >> joseph, if we have a federal government that, look, the decisions been made of they're

not going to take the lead on this, they want to manage this via the states. we have this lockdown fatigue and you have mayors and governors that are just probably reticent to reinstitute these things. they're trying hard not to. it seems like we all then have to do the best we can. what is the best we can hope for at this point going forward? >> i can tell you a very real risk and something i'm concerned about and others are concerned about is we have missed so many opportunities with covid-19 and it's still going on very strongly as we know just looking at the numbers that we risk that it becoming indemic that it doesn't go away unless we have a vaccine. we're hopeful a number of the potential vaccine candidates will be acceptable. with the number of case wes have and the way we're seeing it spread around the states with no plan and closing down other than

a few locales. i'll go back to one of our earlier conversation, if you're not doing it in one state, you're doing it in another. we're very much in that circumstance still. i think we risk this virus becoming a seasonal problem for us until we have a vaccine. >> i'm going to give you the question that i've given you before. if you had five minutes with donald trump, what would you beg him to be doing right now? >> i think, again, going back to our first conversation. it's all about the testing for me. obviously, there's other caveats and other things you have to do to control an out break but a breakthrough in testing is something that works extremely rapid with saliva. rewarding the company that comes up with the breakthrough. i think that's a way that we could get -- get the virus under

control without having a vaccine in place right now. >> joseph fair, i thank you, both you have with starting us off. always a pleasure. joining me now is dr. david like likey. this week texas recorded its highest single week of new cases with more than 15,000. give me your sense of where texas now. it feels like you guys are sort of on an upward plateau. what is your concern going forward? >> i think that's a good analogy of where we are. thus far texas has been relatively spared compare ed to the rest of the nation. if you look at the number of case, the national average is twofo twofold. what texas is. if you look at the number of

deaths, the national average is bifold. the data over the last several weeks, the burden of disease, the amount of disease in texas is going up whether it's the case counts or if you look at the number of individuals that have been hospitalized in texas. the numbers are starting to go up. we were ranging between 1500 to 1800 individuals with covid in the state of texas every day in the state. we're now above 2,000. we have a lot of capacity in the state of texas. we still have about 15,000 open beds in the state of texas. with opening up, with the other things going on, the health care community is in a relatively good position to be able to watch this. we are very cautious. we're watching these numbers very closely and making sure that we're prepared for how this plays out over the next several weeks. >> look, hindsight is 2020 and

now if we knew for sure the virus is acute in the northeast, definitely have lockdowns. maybe the whole nation didn't need the lockdown at the same time. now it looks like, are you concerned that because of the sort of quarantine fatigue that texas had, like a lot of states, now you're getting this wave. it didn't hit you the first time. now you are. but you don't have a public that has the patience for this. >> i think quarantine fatigue is a real entity. texas made a lot of big steps early on like cancelling large conferences, south by southwest and some other events and the shutdown of elective surgeries in the hospital. we have a lot of capacity there. there was a cost to that. there's a financial cost to the hospitals. people have been sheltered at home, staying at home. i would say i think there's some significant con skesequences tog term isolation of individuals.

you look at mental health issue, suicide, alcoholism, child abuse. all those social issues as people are lock ed down. we shouldn't be surprised those go up. we can't have a lazy foot on the gas and let the virus go. it will overwhelm the health care system if you don't have some smart mitigation policies put in place. those type of foils, wearing masks, social distancing, the hand hygiene, staying home with your sick, really important. people are getting a little tired of those. >> i believe today is the day that restaurants are allowed to go to 75% capacity. given the charts we showed, that feels counter productive right now, does it not? >> i think restaurants, if they do it smartly, i think businesses, if they do it

smartly, can open up. what does that look like? not having lines, not having people sit next to each other as they are waiting to get in. i've gone to a restaurant, i've worn a mask. i think it's a prudent decision that you can make. not having the crowds related to the tables and if 75, that's a bit larger. a lot of restaurants that's been very few individuals there. we'll need to watch that closely as we do prudent steps and be willing to take a step back ward if we start seeing this really rev up here in the state of texas. >> much appreciated for you sharing your expertise with us this afternoon. thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir. up ahead, the growing crisis in arizona. i'll talk with the mayor of

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we know that it's in the community. we are not going to be able to stop the spread and we can't stop living as well. >> welcome back. that was arizona's to the health official seeming to acknowledge defeat in stopping the virus spread as the state battles a surge in coronavirus cases. arizona reported a record number high of cases, more than 1600. cases have nearly doubled since memorial day. a number of cases and its climbing faster in arizona than any place in the country. the positivity rate has been

climbing steadily since the state reopened. arizona has been hit by a record number of hospitalizations yesterday in week 1300. all of these factors, the case rate and the number of hospitalizations of what officials should be looking to for guidance and rop reopening decisions. so far the governor insists there's no need for any new stay at home order or any slow down in the state's reopening. phoenix mayor joins me now. i was intrigued by the fact you and the governor went so long without speaking. is it over how to deal with the virus? >> before the virus came to our community, when i called the governor, he would pick up the phone and we would be able to talk. at the beginning of the virus he would have his staff return phone calls and we went to a time period where major decisions happened and i would find out via twitter. for example, when he implemented a twitter -- when he implemented

a curfew on the state of arizona, i found out via twitter even though our city employees, phoenix police were the one who would enforce it. i picked up the phone. he answered. he kplcommitted to me that woul not happen again. i'm optimistic we can work together but we have had very different visions of our responsibilitys. >> what would you like to see right now and what do you have control over and what are things that you'd like to see that you don't have control over that it would take action by the governor? >> at the beginning of the virus several arizona mayors implemented restrictions to try to slow the spread. when the governor then went to a stay at home order, he pre-empted us from doing so and he did not give us the opportunity to put in place safety precautions. if i had the ability to do so, i would like to closely follow the centers for disease controls

guidelines. we were among the last states to close down and among the first to open. we went from zero to 60 very quickly. we now have nightclubs that are packed with no social distancing. that does not follow cdc guidelines. i would like to have the opportunity to do so. i believe that we need to send a strong message to our residents that we are in a public health crisis and we need to change behavior. >> what is your hospital vauati right now? >> we are over 83% of our beds taken. that means we're over the thresholds when many communities go to cancelling elective surgeries. we hear from some hospitals that they are behind in reporting data. that one infectious control specialist told me she's 20 cases behind in reporting. we've also heard that by july

4th, we could be in a very difficult situation. >> i'm just curious when it comes to the issues with these icu beds, is this a situation where some hospitals have cancelled elective surgeries on their own or does that have to be something that could come from the governor? >> the governor did cancel elective surgeries. i think it's important for me to send the message, if you're having a stroke or a heart attack or you need care, there are beds right now in arizona. you should go to the hospital. i am worried if we do not change behavior, we are headed to a dangerous situation that could be prevented. polling shows that arizonans are taking this seriously but they are unsure what is the appropriate behavior. they see news pictures of those crowded nightclubs and they say to themselves, if that's legal, then we're done with this. what i want to say to any

arizo arizo arizonan who is willing to listen is we're not done this. i know you are frustrated. i don't enjoy wearing mask. i'm a mother of small child and we have gotten to the point we're painting rocks we're so bored but we have an opportunity to save lives byur behavior, wearing masks, social distancing, staying home when you can can make a huge difference. we did it before. we slowed the spread. we have to keep doing it. >> how much do you think your issues in phoenix have to do with the outbreaks in jail? >> we have a particularly concerning concentration of our most serious cases in long term care facilities. any situation where people are living closely together does tend to correlate with spread. if you look at our fatalitiefat probably first area where we need to pay attention is long term care facilities and we are seeing higher rates of

transmission in both the jail and prison system. >> the governor, they still believe this up tick has more to do with testing. let me ask you, do you feel like you have enough testing and contact tracers and how much of the spike do you think is due to increased testing? >> arizona is near the bots tton per capita testing. we are behind in contact tracing. we do not have a robust contact tracing program in the community. we have been third from the bottom in public health spending. you see that in the results we are getting. we have seen an increase in be percentage of positive cases. what that means is we're still testing the sickest. in most communities you see that declining and as you ramp up testing you would expect to see that declining. if you had adequate testing you would see that number decline.

>> just at this point right now, you wish you had a stay at home order because you feel like you're right at the border of exceedsing capacity? >> i would like to ask the governor to give mayors the abilities to follow cdc guidelines. we should, at least, be closing those non-essential businesses that were not supposed to open at full capacity in the early phases. i think that it would be responsible to leave some businesses open so not go to a full stay at home order but those non-essential businesses like nightclubs where we know there's a high level of spread. we should not have packed nightclubs. we have a responsibility as elected officials to model good behavior such as wearing masks and not sitting in crowded situations would you tell us them. they're not comfortable. i get it. >> yeah.

especially probably in your heat, not in any heat. it seems to be the best way to prevent the spread if you're walking outside. thanks for coming on and talking us through your situation. good luck. i hope the worst doesn't come by july 4th. good luck out there. up ahead, from washington, d.c. to washington state. the clash over protests that has the president threatening to send in the military to seattle. o send in the military to seattle. it's the 11:05 endless-orders migraine medicine the 2:20 back-to-back calls migraine medicine it's called ubrelvy the migraine medicine for anytime, anywhere a migraine attacks without worrying if it's too late or where you happen to be. one dose of ubrelvy can quickly stop migraine pain and debilitating symptoms in their tracks within two hours. unlike older medications, ubrelvy is the first pill of its kind to directly block cgrp protein believed to play a role in migraine attacks. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors.

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welcome back. in seattle demonstrators are acted on the popular protest, whose streets, our streets by taking over a six block area of the city that they are calling the capitol hill autonomous zone. seattle does have a neighborhood called capitol hill. it's on an elevated area. this comes after the seattle police department pulled out levering be space open for protests. it's escalated elsewhere between president trump and seattle moi your in tweets and during an interview with fox the president called mayor's leader slip in e question. >> we're not going to let seattle be occupied by anarchists. if we have to go in, we'll go in. >> last night the mayor pushed back and voiced support for the

protesters. >> gathering and expressing first amendment rights, demanding we do better as a society and providing true equity for communities of color is not terrorism. it is patriotism. the threat to invade seattle to divide and inkrieviteincite vio our sfi is not only unwelcome, it would be illegal. >> how long is this occupation, sit in, whatever we want to call it going to last? >> reporter: that's a good question. the mayor and the police chief have not provided an answer to that as to exactly when the police force is going to attempt to reoccupy that now vacant east precinct. the police chief did visit the location yesterday with several officers. i think there's two important things to note with all of this. here in the city of seattle, there's not overwhelming chaos

in that capital hill neighborhood. we're talking about six blocks. there's no burning buildings. rancho bravo taco shop is open. folks are painting on the aspha aspha asphalt. it's a block party feel. the presingts is vacant. that was a decision made by this city. it's not like they were overwhelmed by protesters and pushed out. it was a decision made by the city to deescalate the tension between police and protesters on monday. that's where you see this situation now. that autonomous zone just naturally being created as a result. that's where you heard the mayor push back and tell the president, it would be illegal for him. unless there's a break down in which local law enforcement is not able to provide effective

security, that's the point in which the president has the authorization to use military force and what we heard, so far from the mayor, and the police chief is that is not the case. we're going to be heading down for this next evening, chuck in which if you're to come down here, there's no name id checking. pretty much anybody can come in if they so choose. >> we'll be curious to what does success of this protest look like to those protests? >> reporter: exactly. protests that's a big question mark. >> right. all right. in seattle for us. thank you. up next, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are working to change the country's policing system. what is the president willing to support? is that a roadblock? i'll talk to a republican senator working on his party's reform bill, next. tor working os reform bill, next. when the world gets complicated,

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welcome back. sustained protests in communities across the country are leading to legislative action on the state and local level. the mayor signed breonna's law which bans no knock raids. in new york, governor signed a sweeping backing to police reforms today that includes bans on choke holds and make police officers disciplinary records public. house democrats have nearly half their chamber on board their package as cosponsors. that could create a national registry to track police misconduct, ban choke holds and reduces qualified immunitimmuni. republicans are planning to roll out a bill of their own next week. asked about choke holds, president trump said generally speaking, the practice should be ended. then he also defended them as a potentially necessary law enforcement tactic if you're in the middle of a scrub.

he is part of the working group in the snaenate. senator, good to see you. i think i know where the common ground is but in your words, you m know this house democratic bill. where is the overlap as far as what you're working on. >> that's common ground. we got to get data and information out there. if we have personnel records that are not made available to law enforcements when doing hiring, that's major issue. if someone dies in police custody, about 40% of the departments nation wide already turn that information to the fbi. we need to get that out there more. we need to deal with body cameras and not just have them but have incentury tifr tive to chemothem on be p we have times mysteriously body cameras have gone off. we need the technology to stay on or they don't turn off bp

we're trying to work on recruiting. we want to incentive african-american recruits. if they want to join the force they can do that and there's an incentury tifr secentive to say doesn't match the community, we need to incentivize that. we want to get as much things as with can done. >> it seems as if there's going to be a negotiation or dispute or you may run into something on the issue of the qualified immunity issue. the white house said it's a non-starter. there are republicans that are in favor of seeing that. i know rand paul is among those. where are you on that issue, senator? >> i'm actually trying to go through and find another option for it. qualified immunity, i'm hearing every side of it. i understand where we come from. this is not partisan issue. this is a how do we provide the opportunity for someone who has

someone die in custody unjustly to bring civil suits against that individual as well. there may be other ways to take this. what i don't want to have is situation where every member of law enforcement is having to second guess everything and hesitate. we know they do make life or death decisions every single day. we can't put them at risk but we have to hold them and the departments to account when someone is outside the statute. we are seriously looking through that to see if there's a way to deal with that honors people making very rapid, sudden decisions in very violent experiences that are happening on the street and still be able to protect the lives and the families of those individuals have someone taken from them. >> one area that i didn't ask you about that you didn't bring up and maybe you over looked it. the issue of the military equipment to police departments. some people that would like to see that practice ended. where are you on that? >> yeah, i think there's certain aspects of the military equipment that don't need to be

used. there's no reason to have a gun mounts on vehicles and such. that should never be used in a civilian use. you should never have grenade launchers. there's lots of military equipment that needs to be prohib prohibit. we need to have chain of custody. we don't want a situation where we have night vision goggles. i can understand how a certain group if they're going in, they want to have some visibility. that has a reasonable civilian use. we never want those to be able to fall into civilian hands as well. we got to have a good chain of custody. there are areas we need to resolve even in that zone. >> what is the -- obviously, if the president signs off on what you and senator scott and the republican working group come up with, it would answer the question i'm about to ask. if he does not give you an indication of where he is on some of these issues, are you

willing to go forward with a bill and sort of say, okay, we'll pass a bill in the senate. they will pass a bill on the house. we'll try to meet, reconcile those two bills. insentive to the president or do you want to avoid sending a bill to the president that you're not sure he will sign? >> i think in this case, like a lot of other difficult cases, this is a situation where the house, the senate and the kwhwh house have got to agree to make a law. my understanding is the president is going to put out executive orders of things they feel like they have the authority to do on the federal law enforcement but will also make recommends dagss on legislation. we have not seen what those recommends dag recommendations are. we have seen the house recommendations. we will make our recommendations available next week, probably by wednesday. we'll get this out and pair what a final bill really looks like. >> i want to ask you about the decision by the senate armed services committee to vote to start the process of possibly changing the names of some of

those southern military installations that use some c confederate generals. where are you on that? are you support ifr? >> entirely reasonable. look at it. you have to ask the hard question why was it named that way. several of these bases have had several names over the years. we have a lot of modern day warriors that are great role models like tommy franks is one that comes to mind who is an incredible role model for the next generation of soldiers. there's a lot of people that are modern day we can rename. i think it's reasonable to go back and take a look at this. again, i look at bases -- >> you say take a look. >> look at bases like i look at schools. if the name of the school is supposed to be a role model, if that person is not a role model then why not look at changing the name. same thing for bases. if we're trying to train people at the facility, the person it's not a good role model as an american soldier or leader, why

wouldn't we look at changing that. i think it's a matter of what armed services is putting out at this point. take a look at it, evaluate it, what's the best way to do it. there's a lot of decisions that have to be made in the process on that and make the name changes where necessary. >> i have to ask you about the president picking tulsa as his first place for public rally. this is your home state. he used juneteenth. i have heard some republicans have made it known to the white house that they would love to see the president pick another day. would you like to see the president pick another day than juneteenth? >> yeah. lets me sap y it this way. big day for emancipation day. it's also a big day for republicans. it was a republican president that declared emancipation. that is significant to republicans as well. our founding president and founding principles about equality and opportunity for every one. i think there are other opportunities for days the

president can look at. if he wants to come, i said the same thing when president obama was president. he's welcome to come to oklahoma any time. he's the president of the united states. president trump is welcome to come any time. we're glad to host him at whatever moment. the nation is in a big conversation about race right now. i would assume the president would talk about race at that moment as well. that day, among many days, are great days to have this conversation. >> very curious, if it came for a vote, would you vote yes for ju juneteenth as a federal holiday? >> that's one that should be recognized. it's a big event. i know a lot of businesses look at that as a federal holiday. i'd have to go back and look. every time you add a federal holiday, that has a lot of expense and issues that go with that. i don't want to jump and decide on the air. that's a significant day and some groups use that as a holiday. >> senator, always a pleasure to

get your perspective. thank you for coming on the show. >> thanks, chuck. up next, the crisis within a crisis facing african-americans during this pandemic. we'll talk to a physician on the front lines, after this. physicie front lines, after this.

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budget to reallocate funds from the police budget and putting them into boston's black communities. this is in addition to the task force the mayor created last month to address the health inequities exposed by the coronavirus, boston in a city only 25% black. african-americans make up 38% of coronavirus cases and 35% of the deaths. that disparity is in line with what we see across the country. the krxt says black americans make up 23% of coronavirus deaths and less than 13% of the population. it is a disparity that many worry will only be exasperated by the ongoing protests. joining me now, an emergency room physician and the founder and ceo of advancing health everything with it. first, i want to get your reaction to the mayor of boston's decision, and is this something that would you like to see elected officials all over the country treat racism as a public health issue, too?

>> the answer to that is a resounding yes. racism is a public health issue. agen as we've seen over the last few months which has only exposed the pre-existing enequities always there. black communities have carried a higher chronic disease burden. life expectancy is the shortest. highest infant mortality rate. these last few months have shown us how profound the disparities are. so i love what i saw in boston today by marty walsh and i hope that other local and state entities follow through with the same plans. >> how would this look in the federal government? to approach a situation like this. what is your idealist vision of what that would look like? it is pretty clear, this is generation upon generation of health inequities.

generation upon generation of food deserts, of lack of resources to healthier foods, better schools. we can go down the line here. it is multiple generations. it is going tow to have take a while to right these wrongs. what would it look like to you? >> a longstanding commitment and reinvestment in black communities. and it looks like what reparations would look like. it looks like investing in housing and education and in jobs because we know those are the social determinans of health, where you live and work and play influences the health of communities. so in the long term, we need the federal government to invest resources and funds in these communities and community based organizations, and in community health centers. >> i feel like many black americans have to make a choice with the protests to put

themselves at a higher risk for the virus. not a great choice to have to make. and i have talked to many black americans who say it isn't a hard choice. the inequality has been the public health crisis. >> right. and actually, i don't think it is a choice at all. it is a false choice. it is a fallacy. the fact is the people out there protesting in the streets, that are protesting police violence, the jumped like factor is, it's racism so they're also protesting against the racial health disparities that we're seeing in the coronavirus pandemic as well. >> one of the other gaffes is on research. i think the first question, the first answer you gave when you talked about, for instance, black mothers, there's more problems at birth. it comes across socioeconomic lines. it is just clearly, there has been a lack of basic research

into these different outcomes. how can we improve on the research front? >> so there is research going on. there are black physicians and public health experts doing this important research. what we need is for the federal government to fund this research, because we know from actually this past year, studies came out that showed that health disparities, research receives the least amount of funding. so we need the federal government to make a commitment to fund health disparities, research, in the long term. >> recently i had an interview with the president of howard university who is also an m.d. and he said one of the things he's most concerned about is a trend lately. he said when he was in medical school in the 80s, there were more african-americans in medical school then than we're seeing today. that there has been, and he's been frustrated by this, that there seems to be a lack of

interest in either recruiting african-americans to med school or more african-americans in the medical field. >> right. so we know one of the key factors to addressing these racial health disparities is to have a diverse work force. to have black physicians. so what that would look like is to start very early, start a k-12 pipeline. reinvest in exposing young people as early as kindergarten to the opportunity to become a physician. again this is something the federal government should take a very large role in supporting. because we know from the data that having more black physicians will help address some of the disparities we're seeing. >> doctor, both a physician on the front lines of this virus but also with your foundation trying to tackle the inequity issues. i hope folks will go find out

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that's all we have for tonight. don't miss "meet the press" this sunday. my guest bob gates and senator tim scott of south carolina who is leading the republican efforts on police reform. "the beat" starts right now. hello. >> hey, two big interviews this sunday. we'll be tuning in for that. welcome to "the beat." i'm in for ari melber. a big show ahead with donald trump increasingly isolated tonight, rage tweeting and stoking new racial controversies with his own advisers, reportedly mystified about his response in all of this. today trump going on fox news for an interview about police brutality and the protest movement, and immediately, sparking brand new outrage in this country, calling abraham