hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. the center of the national conversation on race and justice has shifted to atlanta. today, the city is bracing for more protests after the latest deadly incident involving police and a black man. this started friday night when 27-year-old rayshard brooks was asleep in his car at a wendy's drive-through. police were calling to the scene and officers tried to arrest brooks for driving under the influence. the police department released body cam footage from the officers involved. going to show you the moments leading up to the scuffle with brooks and police. some may find this footage disturbing. >> i had about one and a half drinks but you don't remember? >> no, sir, i really don't. >> i think you had too much to be driving. hands behind your back for me. put your hands behind your back. >> hey. stop fighting. stop fighting. >> you're going to get tased.

>> stop. >> you're going to get tased. [ bleep ]. >> surveillance video shows the moments before brooks was shot as he was running away from the officers. officials say brooks grabbed their taser and fired it over his shoulder. it was a night of violent clashed between demonstrators and police at the restaurant where the deadly incident started was set on fire and protesters blocked the interstate. that came after the city's police chief resigned and the department announced the officer involved in the shooting had been fired. morgan chesky is in atlanta. what is the latest on this investigation? >> reporter: alicia, good afternoon. we know three separate agencies have simultaneous investigations into that incident that happened friday night at this wendy's behind me that really was still smoldering until the past hour or so when these skies opened up with a georgia thunderstorm. that rain has sent some of the

people home who came out here to show support for the family of mr. brooks following his death. however, through this rain, you can still see people behind me holding up signs, calling for justice. and coming here to pay their respects after what happened on that day. now, i did have a chance to speak to a representative for the fraternal order of police, the union for officers here in georgia, and i asked him, is an officer ever justified in firing on a suspect as they run away? and he said in this incident, after reviewing the video, that he stood by the officers' actions saying mr. brooks turned over his shoulder and fired that taser towards officers which in his mind, he says in that split second was enough for the officer to return fatal fire and fatally wound mr. brooks, who died at a nearby hospital shortly after that took place. in the meantime, we do know that protests are planned here in atlanta throughout the day. we saw a large group of protesters block an interstate

last night. we are anticipating some sort of gathering, although the location has yet to be determined at this point in time. here, though, i did have a chance to speak to several people who stood outside that burned out wendy's, alicia, and i asked them how does it feel to have this happen just a couple weeks after the death of george floyd, despite these incidents being different, and they said there is so much pain in this community and that trust has been absolutely compromised between the african-american community here and that of police. and we saw the result of that in the resignation of the atlanta police chief. so as it stands right now, the atlanta mayor has said that this use of deadly force was absolutely not necessary, we do expect to hear from her later on today, but for now, we'll send it back to you. >> all right, morgan, thank you. in new york, governor andrew cuomo this weekend signed a police reform package that is being touted as one of the most

aggressive reform bills since the death of george floyd. joining me now is nbc's cori coffin. what can you tell us about this reform package? >> reporter: yeah, alicia, good afternoon to you. states like colorado, minnesota, and new york all pouncing sweeping reform packages. new york taking it a step further even. the main state level reforms, there are several of them, but the mabe main ones, ban choke holds, ban phony race-based 911 calls, greater officer discipline and call for independent investigations at the state attorney general's office level. from there, the governor has also signed an executive order having all and requiring all local municipalities work within their communities to re-create their police departments, decide from the bottom up exactly what they want their police departments to look like, what policies they want, and that includes use of force policies. he spoke on all of this earlier today. take a listen. >> people are still out

protesting. you don't need to protest. you won. you won. you accomplished your goal. society says you're right. the police need systemic reform. that was accomplishment one. now go to step two. >> all right, so what is step two look like, exactly? he says it means getting all parties to the table, from just the most minor communities all the way through the top leadership in those communities. and having everyone sit down so they can have their voices heard. writing this out, he said put pen to paper. obviously, it's not quite that simple. many processes have to happen before then, but he's giving a nine-month deadline by april 1st of next year, he says that municipalities risk losing funding to their police departments if they do not comply with this executive order. i spoke with, there was a protest out here earlier today,

a gathering. i spoke with some of the folks asking them if they think they don't need to be protesting anymore. they said absolutely there's still a need to protest because not only all these incidents still happening but also nothing is guaranteed until these laws actually change. they tell me they'll be out every day until that happens. >> cori, thank you so much. >> in los angeles, the all black lives matter protest is kicking off today. the march against police brutality is meant to include black lgbtq plus people during pride month. erin mclachlan is on the ground there. what's the story behind how this march came to be? >> first, i want to set the scene here. thousands of people turned out to hollywood boulevard to send a message that all black lives matter. in fact, they even painted it on the pavement. releasing these images on their instagram accounts to send that message. i was talking just a short while

ago to a trans activist. she's out here today. vanessa, and asked her why they feel the need the word "all" needs to be included. take a listen. >> to answer your question about why all black lives matter, it's to draw attention to the historic problem that we have had in this country where black trans bodies are erased. black transvoices are left out of conversation. we're left out of the black movement, but we're black first. that's why we have to say all black lives matter, to call attention to how we have been left out of conversations and movements we need to be at the table for. >> this is a march -- this is a march that was brought out of controversy. it was originally organized by l.a. pride. they expected to have their 15th anniversary march here in los angeles.

canceled due to the pandemic, and they decided to host this event in solidarity. however, they didn't ask key matters in the black lives matter community. they also didn't ask the police commission. l.a. pride quickly apologizing, backing out of the event, and a new organization, all black lives matter, was formed, and it's been sending the message today. >> all right. erin, thank you. turning now to the coronavirus pandemic. as states move ahead with reopening measures, a number of them, including north carolina and texas, are seeing a surge in cases. in new jersey, governor phil murphy is suing a popular jersey shore town for moving ahead with allowing indoor dining in violation of the state's lockdown orders. msnbc's lindsey reiser joins me now from asbury park. tell us about this dispute

between the town and the governor. >> yeah, so they want indoor dining. they are ready for things to open up again. here, take a look at the line. these are for the drinks to go. it's a beautiful, sunny day here in asbury park. beautiful shore town, and people want to start going out to eat again. they want to sit inside and dine in. there's a little bit of hope for some of these small businesses here. tomorrow, they go into phase two. that means they can have outdoor dining. so they can put tables out here on their porch, on their deck. they think they can serve about 80 people at a time, and this particular institution, normally, peak season, they would have about 150 people on their payroll. right now, they only have about 35. that's why these business owners appealed to their local government. they said please let us have limited indoor dining. city leaders voted. they approved that. but then the governor stepped in and said that is defying my orders. he sued. so then the city had to reverse their order and tell businesses no, tomorrow, you cannot have indoor dining. only outdoor. but you know what, the business

owner here that i talked to said she just wants to be able to survive through the next season, and she says even so, she's hoping people who come out will be patient with them with all of these new changes. listen to what she had to say. >> it's really important that people understand and stand behind us. this is going to be very complicated. a lot of businesses are going to open at the same time. supply chains are going to be broken down. we're not going to get everything we need when we need it. if you don't feel comfortable coming out, just don't go out until you're ready. but if you do come out, be patient with us. >> and so she is going to comply with the order tomorrow, only have outdoor dining, and you know, they say they don't necessarily want everything reopened completely because we have seen spiked in other states, but 25% capacity, masks, social distancing, things like that. she said this is peak season, this is when they make the most of their money and they want to bring all of their employees back. >> thank you.

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president trump moved his tulsa rally by one day following widespread condemnation that he planned to hold it on juneteenth, the oldest celebrated commemoration of the ending of slavery in the united states. but one thing that won't change is the indoor venue, which sits in the middle of a city with a significant and growing covid-19 problem. the director of harvard's global health institute called trump's rally, quote, an extraordinarily dangerous move for the people participating and the people who may know them and love them and see them afterward. with me to discuss are monica alba, nbc news political reporter, alex taumpsis, and kenya eveland. monica, i want to start with you. you have oklahoma health officials reporting a new daily

high. the health director saying he's concerned about their ability to protect the president's supporters and the president himself. is the white house concerned about safety? >> they don't appear to be that worried, alicia. this comes as the own trump administration's cdc guidelines which came out a couple days ago would put a gathering like a rally into what they're calling the highest risk category. and that's because you're going to have tens of thousands of people gathering in a venue where social distancing is frankly not possible. and then you have trump campaign officials not saying what if any of those guidelines they plan to enforce. will they have temperatures taken of the rally goers, will face masks be encouraged? they're not able to answer any of that and they point to the fact oklahoma is pretty far along in terms of its phasing and reopening, but we haveen an increase in cases. but the president, you saw him move his own republican convention to another location because he didn't want to do it in a place where social distancing was going to be a

requisite. he wanted to have it somewhere where that wasn't it. he's itching to get back on the trail, to be with thousands of supporters, and he doesn't have a preference for them. he said when people are spread out, in his words, it loses a lot of the flavor. what you also are going to see now is a second event that they may add, the campaign manager there saying they had such an overwhelming response to the initial tulsa rally, you may have even more than the 19,000 people here crammed in close together, and the health officials in tulsa are right to be concerned, alicia. >> alex, you talk about juneteenth, you talk about tulsa, you talk about jacksonville. places and dates that have deep scars bearing this country's history. was the white house based on your reporting aware of the choice they were making and the implications of these places and of these dates? >> well, they very quickly became aware, which is why they changed the dates of the rally to the next day, almost immediately. and you're seeing even

republicans tim scott and other republicans, say that was at the very least, insensitive. what you're really seeing with the trump campaign is that trump is going back to what got him elected in 2016. trump was calling -- was screaming law and order at his convention in 2016. the question really is, has the country changed in a way just in four years? now, some polls have suggested that the country is changing, especially on racial issues. you're seeing historic majorities of white voters say that race is going to be a factor when they vote next november. and i talked to trump former chief of staff general john kelly about what he thought about the confederate bases named after confederate soldiers, and yawn kelly split from the president and told me he thinks it's time to rename the bases after generals and soldiers that were not confederates. so the cession is, when we're

going to see in november, if the country has changed and it's still resonating in the same way to trump's message this time around. >> and i do want to come back to that question of confederate named bases, but before i do, kenya, you had ben carson talking about this topic, specifically about opposition to these rallies, about the renaming of confederate bases. take a listen. >> we have reached a point in our society where we dissect everything and try to ascribe some nefarious notion to it. we really need to move away from that. we need to move away from being offended by everything, of going through history and looking at everything. you know, of renaming everything. it really gets to a point of being ridiculous after a while. and you know, we're going to have to grow up as a society. >> kenya, i wonder who you understand to be the intended audience for those comments. >> the same people who the president is appealing to in his

administration is appealing to when he describes them as very fine people, the very people who protest and rally and counter to what we're saying around the country, which is for racial equality and a recognition of institutional racism. there's been many attempts to speak to these communities and even those who debate whether the administration was purposeful in choosing this date, not only the date but the location that is something of importance and of sentimental value to african-americans for the recognition of the ending of slavery in texas in 1865, and recognizing the tulsa race massacre that killed hundreds of black americans, who as we see happening in this very country, lifted themselves up into the upper middle class and created a society counter to the white counterparts that resulted in that white rage. the president has been very deliberate in his administration has been very deliberate in reaching out to this base of people who see the very protests

we're watching across the country and move toward diversity as a threat or as detrimental to their livelihood. >> monica, the president lashed out at the end of the week after elizabeth warren and other senators introduced an amendment to change the names of bases named after confederate generals. he said, hopefully our great republican senators won't fall for this. it's clear that many of them support the amendment. is the white house concerned that they're losing support among republican senators? >> i think it's possible, alicia, but you also have the president here really digging in his heels. it doesn't seem that he's going to move from his position, which was to come out very strongly in opposition to this last week, despite bipartisan support from lawmakers who were open to it. you even had the department of defense, who was signaling a willingness to look into this. it's not the first time it's coming up, but given the current environment, it does seem to be something that would be progressing and the president has not shifted his position, but you see how quickly certain

organizations did respond. you look at nascar, for example, in the last couple days, and the president not seeming to look to these things that have advanced as a way to formulate his own thinking or his own opinions on this. and it also comes at a time where he has laid out initial steps of things he wants to do in terms of where we are in the societal unrest and police brutality and race relations, but he's only working to finalize an executive order, for example, on the use of force. there have been kind of preliminary things laid out, but nothing concrete. he really is still in a kind of a initial zone when you think about this, and it's been nearly three weeks since the death of george floyd. alicia. >> alex, you have the president this week out of step with two people who he's considered al allies in the sporting world with nascar and the nfl. the president lashed out against roger goodell on twitter. he made his stance on confederate bases well known. do you think that any of this

impacts support among his base? >> i don't think it's going to necessarily impact the support among his base, but i think what you're seeing is it's impacting the support among sort of like the base curious sort of folks, the people that voted for him in 2016 but are tired of a little bit of the chaos, and you're seeing that trump, while he has usually a majority approval when it comes to the economy, his ratings when it comes to racial relations are just abysmal, to be honest, so what you are going to see, you know, even with the nascar thing, you know they are banning confederate flags at their event. i asked the trump campaign if they would ban confederate flags at their rallies and they moved on. even when i went to joe biden's campaign and he challenged the trump campaign to do that, saying confederate flags were unwelcome at future events, the trump campaign still did not respond. they have made it clear, at

least so far, they're going to do everything they can to maintain tear base, even if it means temporarily losing some of these suburban middle class voters who don't like the way he's dealing with this incredible moment of racial unrest, and honestly, a reckoning on racism for a lot of white americans. >> kenya, your take on how the moment that we're in plays out in the lead-up to november? >> sure. absolutely. i think what the administration is recognizing, and as we saw with the change of the speech in tulsa from juneteenth to june 20th, i think there's a recognition that americans essentially have been listening. this is a president who before he ever assumed the presidency, before he was a reality tv star, was embroiled in lawsuits related to racial discrimination. this is someone who also put in in 1989, an ad in "the new york times" calling for the death penalty for the central park five, who we later knew as the exonerated five. this is also a president who was

rumor today have used racially charged language during his time on "the apprentice." this is a president who has time and time again shown black americans in particular, but especially those who are waking up to racial animus and racial tensions in this country. they're starting to see who this president has been showing them. and so this is what they're worried about more so. these african-americans are listening. and now that they're listening to african-american voter demographic, they're listening to the 93% of african-american women who voted for hillary clinton in 2016. they're more so concerned about the young voters, those that we're seeing of all races coming out, those we assumed before have been apathetic to the political process. they're seeing that energy play out in terms of protests and demonstrations across the country and there's a concern that's going to translate to votes in november. so what do you do? you go back to what worked for you in 2016. you build a strawman and find an element for your base to rally against. that's what we're seeing even as the nfl is changing and pivoting

their position on peaceful protesting. we're seeing colin kaepernick still front and center in the president's consciousness and even the transition to nascar, an embodiment of the base the president has tried to hold on to, we're seeing an appeal to the base more so because of the rallying of a new base or an emerging of voices that will use this and see this moment as an opportunity to become politically active in november. >> monica, alex, and kenya, thank you. it was a case of mistaken identity for a former saturday night live star. now, jay pharaoh is talking about his frightening run-in with police and what it says about the fight for racial justice. that's next. when you think of a bank, you think of people in a place. but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. so, when you get a check... you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can detect suspicious activity on your account from here. and you can pay your friends back from here. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?"

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future of policing. msnbc's kendis gibson has the story. >> jay pharaoh. >> he's a comedian best known for his five-year stint on "snl" but tonight, he shares a deeply personal and shocking account of his encounter with l.a. police over mistaken identity. surveil bs video of the alleged incident which nbc news has not been able to independently verify showing a police officer approaching pharaoh. >> i see an officer to the left of me. i'm not thinking anything of it because i'm a law-abiding citizen. >> he said four officers gun drawn ordered him to get in the grown. >> they put me in cuffs. inofficer took his knee and put it on my neck. he said you fit the description of a black man in this area with gray sweatpants on and a gray shirt. >> he says the police eventually realized they had made a mistake. pharaoh says it was the first time he had ever been in

handcuffs. in a statement to nbc news, l.a. police says we're aware of the video post and the matter is under investigation. fellow comedian and "snl" alum chris rock also has been vocal about his police encounters. in 2015, he showed several of his encounters, and in a new dave chappelle special, he talks about his outrage over use of force. >> you signify you can kneel on a man's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds and feel like you wouldn't get the wrath of god. that's what is happening right now. it's not for a single cop. it's for all of it. >> pharaoh echoing chappelle's outrage. >> i literally could have been

george floyd. we as a country can't breathe anymore. >> kendis gibson, nbc news, new york. >> kendis gibson, thank you for reporting. >> it's important to remember this is not just a u.s. issue. in the uk, there's an ongoing debate over what to do with statues honoring people tied to slavery. protesters are asking for at least 60 monuments with links to racism to be removed across the uk. nbc's elaina humphrey is in london. what kind of opposition is there to removing these statues? >> hi, there. well, talking about opposition, just take a look at the violent scenes from this weekend here in london. yesterday, saturday, we saw hundreds of far-right demonstrators descend on the british capital, they say to protect the statue to sir win s winston church hill after it was tagged with graffiti saying winston churchill was a racist, taking aim of his record of racist comments, his staunch

defense of the british empire. then what we saw were violent clashes ensuing between the far-right protesters and between riot police. six police officers were injured, and we also saw this incredible moment of a black lives matter protester coming out and then seemingly carrying to safety one of the far-right protesters who had been inskrred in those clashes. but the galvanizing moment that sparks the ire of the far right was the events from bristol the previous weekend when we saw the toppling of the statue to the 17th century slave trader, edward coalston. it was then rolled into the harbor. it has since been taken out of the water, and you ask about, you know, what to do with these statues. it will be put in a museum. certainly, we then saw something of a domino effect across the country. we saw protests at the university of oxford calling for the removal of the statue to the victorian empireialist here on the banks of the river thames, we saw the removal by local authorities of a statue to the

19th century slave trader robert milligan, lifting from its place to scenes of crowdi cheering crowds. we have a statement from the culture minister who writes further removal of controversial figures, he says, would be the airbrushing of history. i have been speaking to various historians about this, and in fact, they say the removal of statues is nothing new. take a listen to what professor from the university of manchester had to say. >> history of removing statues is as long as statues themselves. the idea that statues are permanent, that they don't -- that they're not moved or replaced because society has moved and changed in ideas, that's a very strange idea that seems to have come about in the last few years. it's normal when societies change for them to reassess the statues that they have. >> now, chiming with that, we have also heard from the mayor of london, sadiq khan, and he

says in terms of where do we go from here, he says new statues must be erected here in london to reflect the diversity of the city, to celebrate people of color, for example, who have made such a contribution to this city, talking, for example, about people from the wind rush generation, people who came from the caribbean in the wake of the second world war and were so vital to the rebuilding of this nation. alicia. >> thanks, helena. >> protesters in seattle are getting a lot of attention for establishing what they call an autonomous zone, but that's not the only place it's happening. we'll show you how the trend is spreading, next. of its vehicles still on the road today? subaru. when it comes to best overall value, who does intellichoice rank number one? subaru. and when it comes to safety, who has more 2020 iihs top safety pick+ winning vehicles? more than toyota, honda, and hyundai-combined? subaru. it's easy to love a car you can trust.

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as protests against systemic racism extend into a third week, demonstrators across the country are establishing autonomous zones, to call attention to police brutality. organizers in nashville say they want to take back the legislative plaza outside the capital building. there governor of tennessee is warning protesters against, quote, lawless autonomous zones, and that violence will not be tolerated. this comes as protesters continue to occupy several blocks of seattle's capitol hill neighborhood. they have renamed chaz following clashes with police. demonstrators took over the area outside a now empty police precinct and declared it a police-free zone. vaughn, what is the scene like

there? >> alicia, this is day seven here. behind me, this is a six-block area here in the heart of seattle. this is an ever-developing scene here. i think it's important to note, it was on monday when the city chose to pull back its police force. and that's what created this six-block area. and since there's bn an organizing effort to try to make sense of where does this go from here. and i want to bring in a friend of ours, javi cordero. we met yesterday, and i suggested there was a street festival-like atmosphere here. you have seen thousands of folks from across seattle come here to this area. can you give us a sense, because there's pushback to that, there's a mission here. can you give me a sense of how this has developed even over this weekend here? >> well, one thing i do want to make a correction is like this is day 15, at least as far as these protests have been going, and how this is developing is that there is greater growing infrastructure in terms of

keeping people safe, of volunteer security and medical teams. and greater cohesion among all of the various black-led leadership. that is a movement, but the thing to understand is this is a very diffuse event. there's no one central figure or leader, and there are nor core demands of like free the protesters, free of all them. do not prosecute protesters. funnel all of this hundreds of millions of dollars that are going to police locally in seattle, $400 million a year, funnel that towards health care institutions and other institutions that support society and see society's basic needs met because 90% of calls police are called to handle, they're not equipped to handle. 90% are not about crime. it's about a person's needs not being met, and police are equipped, every tool on them is built for violence. it's about funneling that money towards functions that are actually practical in terms of

keeping society safe. >> what do you want to see develop here in this area? because you have seen folks come into these six blocks and want to be a part of this. you set up a stage yesterday afternoon. we're very specific this is not a party. what do you want to see this be? >> well, one clarification there. i didn't set that up. i'm just an individual who manages a restaurant down the way and volunteered and tried to help organize some of that. the people who set it up was the harriet tubman foundation for black progress. that female led. what i want to see develop is a greater understanding of the, like, the level of behavior that is expected concerning de-escalation, concerning the culture and respect around respecting black and indigenous voices, and amplifying those voices to get their actual message heard. of like these are the fundamental changes that we are requesting, and these voices are from, like, black organizations that have been around for 20

years, trying to reestablish black communities who have had the rug swept out from underneath them, trying to establish land trusts in black communities so they can have more autonomy, not be pushed out. we all know well the relationship marijuana and the black community has. it's weird in a city like seattle where there's so much wealth, so many white companies putting up fancy shops in black communities, and it's bigger than gentrification, and so it's a matter of finding -- getting support and the social conscience has been broken. what i want to see develop is just safer coordination. i want the police to do their job and to have a channel of communication open with our volunteer security teams so that when terrorist organizations like the proud boys drive by with confederate flags and armed assault rifles, that we know that we are backed by the people we are paying to protect and keep us safe.

that's what i want to see develop. >> javi, you're just one of the organizers among many here, and we appreciate your time and thought here. i think, alicia, this is part, when you look at this area here, this is over the course of 24 hours, continually developing situation. and there's questions of what role does the mayor, what role does the city play in these negotiations? the folks here say they're ready to negotiate, and they're ready for action. alicia. >> vaughn, thank you. it's a sign of change in the world of country music. an award winning trio changed their name, but they main have bounced from one controversy to another. we'll explain next. i recommend applying topical relievers first. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, non-addictive relief. salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. hisamitsu. ♪ ♪ we've always put safety first. ♪ ♪

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providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for every one. driver bubba wallace wo called for the change and raced with a black lives matter logo assisted the change. ray ciccarelli saying he will quit over the end of the season. country music band lady antebellum will change their name to lady a. this comes after protests have been calling for social justice reform and support of the black lives matter movement. the grammy award winning band have decided to drop the word which refers to the customs of the pre-civil war south. joining me is the publisher of the influential tip sheet. i had no idea you were such a big country music fan. this is very fun to learn in and of itself.

as fan, do you think this change signals a bigger change in the world of country music? >> i think it does. when you think about country music and politics, so many people are so quick to go back to 2003 and the whole dixie chicks speaking out against the iraq war and really put in excite and never fully recovered from that entire incident. flash forward to today, what we're seeing is an overwhelming outpouring of public show for racial justice. talking about black lives matter. they had black out tuesday the other day where all the artists posted about social injustice. you've seen this amazing thing that lady a has done. fans of lady antebellum can tell you we have been calling them lady a from the beginning. the acknowledge saying they apologize for anybody who was ever offended by their name choice, taking responsibility for it. now making excuses and doing something so public is a

remarkable thing that the tide is changing this much in country music. this isn't 2003 anymore. wooerp s we're seeing artists speak out, not being afraid of consequences, not being afraid of the politics of it. i think that's what we'll need is the people that follow artists like lady antebellum who need those people to speak out. i think it's a really great turn of events. >> can you give me a sense of what the response has been from fans. >> it's been overwhelmingly positive. this is a very positive band. songs like "i run to you" and "hello world." wanting to create a bter life and positive experience to anyone who listens to the music. i think the ftrue fans really celebrate them. they understand the con tentext

how important it is at this influction point they willing to do something like this. fans are rallying behind them are very proud of what they are doing and still be associated with their music. >> at the same time you have a seattle base sing who are has been going been the name lady a for 20 years. she says this is too much. they are using the name because of a black lives matter that just a moment in time. if it mattered, it would have mattered to them before. it shouldn't have taken george floyd to die for them to realize their name had a slave reference to it. has there been any discussion of legal action? >> well, one of the things that's important is lady a, when they posted about their name change, they said they are not making any excuses for why it took them so long to have this moment of self-discovery. they have apologized for that. they also said publicly they

intend to reach out to her in was not done out of malace or way to take someone from someone and a person of color. as i said earlier, fans have been calling them lady a for the past decade. this was meant to be a positive moment of change and i think they will reach out to her and come together and figure out way to make this work without having to go down the legal road. this is meant to be a positive facing thing. we need people who look like lady antebellum, hillary, dave and charles to make these type of shoes and change and support for black lives matter.

hopefully this misunderstanding between lady a and miss white will not detract away from what they are trying to do symbolically here. >> all right. thank you. that wraps it up for this hour. joshua johnson picks it up at the top of the hour. we'll talk about the possible charges for the atlanta officer involved in the deadly shooting. i'll see you at 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. p. eastern right here on msnbc. e i. e i. but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. so, when you get a check... you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can save for an emergency from here. or pay bills from here. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?" you can tell them: here's my bank. or here's my bank. or, here's my bank. because if you download and use the chase mobile app, your bank is virtually any place. visit chase.com/mobile.

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hey, there. i'm joshua johnson. good to be with you today from nbc news world headquarters in new york. atlanta has more to protest about this weekend after another deadly police involved shooting. today's demonstrations have been peaceful after a tense and confrontational night. 27-year-old rayshard brooks is dead. shot by an officer. what are the videos of this encounter tell us about what happened and who is at fault. he stands along side george floyd and many other black men and women killed by police. names being said at protests that continue across the country. >> it just is a fire hoes that we' -- hose that we're drinking from of insult and salt of devastation. black folks are