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thank you for trusting us and stay safe and health owe this flag day. we'll be back next sunday, because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." unrest in atlanta this morning after the fatal police-involved shooting of black man in the parking lot of a wendy's restaurant. one officer has been fired. another is on administrative leave. also a spike in coronavirus cases in several states, arizona, texas, and florida, all confirming their highest number of cases yet. and amid criticism, president trump moves the date of his tulsa rally from juneteenth to the 20th out of respect for the occasion. ♪ good morning. it is monday, june 15th, and i'm yasmin vossoughian.
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a lot happening over the weekend. we're going to begin with the outrage and the anger in atlanta over another police-involved shooting of an unarmed black man. according to the georgia bureau of investigation, 27-year-old rayshard was fatally shot on friday night outside of a wendy's restaurant. after two police officers responded to a report of man sleeping in a vehicle in the drive-through at that restaurant. we want to warn you that the video of the incident, it is disturbing. authorities say brooks failed a sobriety test and the police body camera shows the struggle that ensues as they tried to ahead him. eyewitness videos shows both officers on the ground struggling to detain brooks. according to investigators, he was able to grab one of the officer's tasers and run away with it. security footage then shows
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brooks turning back and pointing the taser toward one of the officers as you see here, who returned with fatal gunfire. the shooting prompted protests on saturday near the wendy's restaurant which was then subsequently set on fire. officer garrett rolfe who discharged his gun has been fired. the second officer devin brosnan has been placed on administrative leave. atlanta's police chief erica shields has see signed as well. the shooting has been ruled a homicide. brooks suffered two gunshots to the back. the family telling nbc news last night that the officers had other options. >> they didn't have to take this man or attempt to take him into custody because he was sleeping in his car. he was trying to do the right thing. he didn't want to drive drunk.
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he was stopped. he was not a threat to anyone. they could have taken his keys. they could have said, hey, what's your wife's number, call her. let us come pick you up. they could have done a number of other things. just because you tussle with an officer, it shouldn't be a death sentence for anyone. >> danya cevallos joins us. this body camera video, it's shocking when it comes to the death of rayshard. let's talk about the obvious question, danny, which is the charges this officer could possibly see here. >> before we even get into whether or not there are charges, there's going to be an issue of whether or not there was justifiable use by officers.
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officers have a different threshold. even atlanta police department's own manual allows for reasonable force if it's a means necessary and deadly force if under a number of certain conditions, one of which if the suspect has a firearm -- and that's a tricky definition -- and the officer really believes he poses a threat to others. under atlanta's own policy, this could be a use of justifiable force as the policy is written. >> okay. but, danny, let's talk about this video here because he had a taser. a taser does not kill. and when you look at that video of rayshard, he was running away from these two police officers, running away. he was not running toward them. he was running away, and he turned around, if we could bring that video up again, guys, he
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turns around and points the taser, not a gun, the taser at the police officer who then subsequently fired and fatally shot him. and the police officer, danny, as you well know that that taser is his. he knows this is not a gun. he knows that it's his own taser that rayshard was able to wrestle away from him. so how does that play into this scenario? that is not something that could fatally injure this officer. >> it's really interesting. tasers occupy a very nether region. on the one hand, georgia law calls tasers a firearm. although they're non-lethal, they've killed suspects. so there are people who disagree that tasers are always non-lethal weapons. and, in fact -- i'm just talking georgia law and procedure here. the fact that he turns and
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appears to point it at the officers is going to be critical because as i said, if someone has a, quote, firearm as it's defined in georgia and the officer believes there's a threat of serious bodily injury and then you have the raising of the arm, you have a path for these officers to justifiable shooting, at least for the one officer. that's the way the law is written. i'm not espousing it or advancing it. but that's the law in georgia. >> we'll be following how this all plays out and if charges are brought against this officer. danny sell vallecevallos. thank you. a g oop senator and another both endorsed the ban on choke hold but scott signaled it's unlikely it would set a federal
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standard for use of force. >> i'm think it's really difficult to establish a, you know, codified law and standard for use of force. there are millions of scenarios that play out. it's one of the reasons we have tried to achieve through the legislation finding the best practices around use of force around the country and then provide that clarity and guidance for those departments who may need to have a better perspective on use of force. so we're getting at it, so i'm not sure we're ever going to codify in law a use-of-force standard. >> and democrat is congressman jim clyburn of south carolina yesterday pushing back against demands to defund police and instead calling for a re-imagining of the nation's police forces. >> nobody is going to defund the police. we can restructure police forces, restructure or reimagine
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policing. that's what we're going to do. the fact of the matter is the police have a role to play. what we've got to do is make sure that that role is one that meets the times, one that responds to these communities that they operate in. i didn't grow up in that environment. we never feared the police. all of a sudden i do fear the police. the young blacks fear the police. why? because we have built in a system that respondent once again to brown v board of education is looking at. we've got to deconstruct. i wouldn't say defund. deconstruct our policing.
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joining me now, political director for the "washington examiner," david mark. we have a couple of things to get into here, but i want to first talk about the possibility of what we might see with the police reform being led by tim scott and james lankford. what are you expecting to see? what are you expecting to hear about this? >> it seems like what senate republicans are pushing for is a national database of all officer-involved incidents. i think most people, democrats and republicans, would agree on that. some other kind of databases where i think this is going to run into trouble for senate republicans is they're going to probably be opposed as senator scott alluded to there for any restraints by police like choke holds, tasering, et cetera.
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that's why i think compromise could be really difficult in the coming months. >> let's talk about the video that we just showed, jim clyburn essentially saying he's not in favor of defunding the police, right? he's more in favor of restructuring the police. there is certainly a divide within the democratic party because we're also hearing from ilhan omar who on the other side of the spectrum says we need to embrace the term of defunding the police and that defunding the police, the term is being misunderstood stood, that we can recalibrate the responsibilities of various people that respond to calls, that police are currently responding to. she points to an example of a proposal from san francisco that's proposing just that, right? so what do you make of this divide within the democratic party? also former vice president joe biden saying he's not in favor of defunding the police.
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>> democratic leaders like former vice president biden, presumptive democratic presidential nominee andothers, they have to be careful in saying defund the police. so many have friends and family members in law enforcement and do not feel negatively. the problem is there are a lost advocates out there. when they say defund the police, they mean it. they to do not want to pay for police departments. whatever comes next out of it, they never articulate. i think it's important for democratic leaders to make sure to draw that bright line of distinction. >> there are a lot of folks out there that when they say defund the police, it means actually defund the police as has been proposed in minneapolis as well. there are all a lot of folks that mean to reallocate money as
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we have said repeatedly on this program as we said, take money away as was proposed here in new york city, away from the $6 million bucket in the new york city police departments and send it elsewhere to youth programs and so on and so forth and reallocate responsibilities. so there's a differing meaning. david mark, thank you. stay close. i will talk to you again. still ahead, everybody, new questions about president trump's health after his visit to west point over the weekend. ee'll explain why. also joe biden's running mate. who's on his list of potential candidates for v.p. those stories and more along with a check of the weather when we come back.
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welcome back. president trump is now the oldest president to hold office during a first term as he celebrated his 74th birthday yesterday. it brings up questions of his health particularly over the weekend where he cautiously descended a ramp during a commencement speech at west point academy. he brought more attention to it after he tweeted late saturday night, the ramp i descended was very long and steep and had no handrail and was very slippery. the last thing i was going to do was fall for the fake news to have fun with. final ten feet, great momentum. there's no indication it was slippery. it was a clear sunny day. the president also raised some questions during his west point speech after taking a moment to
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sim some water by holding the glass with his right hand and then he needed further assistance with his left hand by pushing it further. this is not the first time he's had difficulty walking down ramps. in 2017 he held hands with british prime minister theresa may while walking down a ramp outside of the white house during their first meeting. and because there was always a tweet, he tweeted this. the way president obama runs down the stairs of "air force one," hopping and bobbing all the way, is so inelegant and unpresidential. do not fall. the associated press reports that democrats report that knowledge of the process, they have narrowed the choice to as few as six contenders after initial interviews. the group includes senator
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elizabeth warren, kamala harris as well as susan rice, those with knowledge of the review process declining to name other contenders. and so the process does remain somewhat fluid. however, a biden spokesperson dismissed the idea that the list has shortened saying, this those who talk don't know and those who know don't talk. the a.p. also reports that while biden has had various private and public interactions with potential picks have vetting committee is considering thus far, he's not had any formal one-on-one interviews to discuss who might be on the ticket. those interviews are not expected to happen for several weeks. >> still ahead, what president trump is saying about his decision to change the date of his upcoming tull va rally that was scheduled for this friday, juneteenth. we're back in a moment. juneteenth we're back in a moment
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joo welcome back. president trump is pushing back his first campaign rally in months after facing backlash for scheduling it on june 19th, the end of slavery in the united states. trump's rally was set to be in tulsa. the president announced the date change on twitter on friday writing in part this. we had previously scheduled or mega rally in tulsa, oklahoma, for june 19th, a big deal. unfortunately, however, this would fall on the juneteenth holiday. many of my african-american friends and supporters have reached out to suggest that we consider changing the date out of respect for the holiday and in observance of this occasion and all it represents. i have, therefore, decided to move our rally to saturday, june 20th n order to honor their request. and a statement from senator
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james lake ford. there's no question that june 19th is a significant day to celebrate emancipation. it is also a date that republicans, as the part of lincoln, remember their founding principles of equal justice and equal opportunity for every american. let's switch gears here and get a check on your forecast with nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning to you, bill. >> good morning to you, yasmin. i hate to brag, but it was absolutely one of the best weekends you could ever imagine weatherwise in areas of the northeast. we don't get many of them, so i appreciate it. we're in a stuck weather pattern. if you had a nice weekend, it was likely nice every single day. but as we go throughout the week, things aren't going to change. we're stuck with this for a week. the areas that had the wet weather this the mid-atlantic region, that's going to continue. we're going to see building heat in the middle of the country. it's called a wavy jet pattern. it means the storm systems don't move either. so for the mid-atlantic region,
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hon on-and-off rain. in north carolina, they're saying there's a potential for flooding. they told people to move their vehicles in the city because they expect flooding problems. the heat in the middle section like texas are s going to build and soar into the 90s. there's charleston with thunderstorms overhead, potential rain. there's a batch heading through north carolina. looks like it's heading toward the raleigh area. it's a wet soggy day in areas of the outer banks. with the stuck weather pattern, on-and-off rain over the next four days, rain possible through rally and down through wilmington. we'll monitor that heavy rain event in charleston. here's how it plays out during the day today. raleigh will have on and off-rain. tuesday, the storm lingers.
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periods of rain all the way through the carolinas. notice a lot does not make it up to washington, d.c. washington, d.c., northward looks completely dry. if you like the cool mornings and beautiful afternoon, what a day it's going to be from philly to new york and boston. yasmin, as i said, it doesn't change much. tuesday will be the same. how often can you say in the northeast you get five great days in a row. it's been pretty rare. >> it's been a great two weeks. it's not often. we'll take it especially with what's going on in the country right now. it's good to have nice weather. thank you, bill. still ahead, everybody, with nationwide demonstrations taking place in the wake of george floyd's death, we're digging in. the president has dismissed talks with aides. and new coronavirus outbreaks in several states across the south. we're back in a moment. oss the .
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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin this half hour as police reform continues across this country, adding on to a growing list of policy changes. on friday, louisville mayor greg fischer banned the use of no-knock warrants by signing breonna's law, named for breonna taylor who was killed during a no-knock raid.
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also there has to be a use of a body camera whenever a warrant is served. new york governor andrew cuomo signs a bill, 50a. kim reynolds signs a bill to not hire police officers if they've had previous felonies or misconduct. and colorado, according to the "denver post," among the biggest changes, bill 217 banning the use of choke holds and controlled holds. limits when police are allowed to shoot at a fleeing person and allows officers to intervene in cases of excessive force or face criminal charges. meanwhile three sources telling nbc news that the president has dismissed the protester protest
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repeatingly telling aides this, these aren't my voters. he also made a remark during a meeting how to respond to protests when they were forcibly removed to make way for the president's photo op in front of st. john's church. the revelation is part of a deeply reported piece of a divide. quote, it looks like he's bewildered right now one political adviser said of the president. we're losing the culture war because we won't engage directly because we're so scared to be called racist. the adviser said the president and a.m. lies should be taking on the black lives movement by calling it a lefront organizati for a lot of crazy leftist ideas that are unpopular.
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he also saying he's not seth the agenda on policing and race in the u.s. where he should be leading on these issues by taking steps like banning tac c tactics like choeke holds. joining me once again david mark with the "washington examiner." david, good to see you once again. let's talk about the president's comments with regard to the protesters, essentially saying these are not my voters. how do you think his response and his overall reaction to the protests from the photo op to the rhetoric he has used on twitter, how is that going to impact the election? >> is david having some trouble
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hearing me? it seems like david is having trouble hearing me. we'll bring him back. this is live television. have technical difficulties all the time. still ahead, everybody, a look at emerging coronavirus hot spots in the united states as fears of a second wave of infections is becoming reality for a lot of the country. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment.
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welcome back, everybody. the fear of a second coronavirus wave is now a reality for many parts of the country. for weeks health experts warned that once states begin to reopen, a surge in cases will follow. so far thousands of americans have been sickened by the virus in new and alarming outbreaks. according to "the new york times" as of saturday, coronavirus cases were climbing
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in 22 states, particularly in the sun belt region and in the west. over the weekend, florida saw its largest single-day count in cases since the pandemic began. the state of oregon paused its reopening due to a spike in cases there. spots in arizona have been activated to deal with coronavirus cases as the cases there have climbed by nearly 300% since may 1st and have roughly doubled since memorial day according to cnbc. meanwhile officials in texas also say hospitals are scrambling to accommodate a surge in cases with numbers swiftly rising around the largest cities including houston, san antonio, and dallas. joining me now, national political reporter for nbc news josh letterman. josh, thanks for joining us this morning. greatly appreciate it. i want to talk about your new piece. it's out this morning and it's
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titled "chinese con consulates deploying mask diplomacy in u.s. communities." talk about how they're using it to influence the united states. >> that's right. we've found this happening all over the country. all of chinese consulates and its em basis here in washington were engaging this across the country. in louisiana, for instance, in a small town called monroe, a nearby town in houston donated a thousand meals to front line workers at a hospital. across the kunly there have become massive donations of ppe, masks, gloves, all of this equipment we've been talking to. we spoke to national security experts who said while the communities generally need this aid and it's appreciated, there's also a very specific propaganda value for the chinese government, that these donations come with strings attached in
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the form of good p.r. that the chinese government is trying to get to try to adjust the reputation that it has right now amid the trump administration's accusations about the origins of the novel coronavirus in china, and so we see that all of these donations of ppe routinely are accompanied by heavy coverage from the chies niece state-run media. they get local news from the u.s. media to show up to cover a ribbon-cutting ceremonies and posting facebook videos, expressing gratitude from local communities to the chinese government. we know that's creating a lot of concern in a way. they're using this kind of donations of ppe as a real propaganda tool for the chinese government. >> it's actually fascinating, josh, because this is the type of story we're used to seeing throughout the rest of the
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world, the chinese influence in small communities throughout the rest of the world on other continents, not necessarily here in the united states. this is not necessarily something that we're used to. so how is the u.s. government responding to this? >>. >> you bring up a really great point because we see this in the developing world where china through its one belt/one road initiative has spent billions on infrastructure in africa and other parts of the world become indebted, symbolically or owing them money for their infrastructure that then comes with strings attached in the form of china's global influence. that's exactly what u.s. security officials are concerned is now happening here in the united states. we talked to senior trump administration officials who say they're closely watching political activity by chinese consulates in the u.s. they know these are propaganda
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tools. and they're also concerned over the donation of ppe and the quality of medical contributions they're making to u.s. communities. >> all right. nbc's josh letterman, thank. as always, great to see you. i want to bring back in the "washington examiner" political director david mark. we have him back. i know you were listening to the conversation i was having with josh letterman with regard to the chinese relations. i want to talk with you briefly about how you expect the president will move forward with china especially when you think about his re-election come november. >> right. china has been essentially a boogie man, an enemy, something that republicans plan to paint as a source of the coronavirus. so i think this probably only ratchets some of the campaign rhetoric. it's just the kind of thing we
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might expect to hear the president discuss at his upcoming rallies in tulsa, oklahoma, and some other states. china is going to play big time in the presidential campaign, and this only adds fuel to the fire. >> yeah. but we have to also remember this is a relationship that has flip-flopped a lot over time. the president has applauded china, has said they dealt well with the coronavirus and then gone back on that, has said xi jinping is his friend and has gone back on that. we don't always necessarily nowhere the president stands when it comes to u.s./china relations. it seem fairly seasonal to say the least. i want to talk about this for a minute. you have some new reporting focusing on vulnerable republican lawmakerin inlawmake specifically in iowa and virginia. >> right.
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democrats need to pick up about four seats. a new poll out by the premier pollster in iowa she's very competitive race in that state that many democrats had not thought was really in place. this is held by first term republican senator joni ernst who according to this poll is down -- democratic challenger teresa greenfield -- 46% to 43%. that's basically within the margin of error. wait does is expands the senate map. it's good news for them overall. >> all right. david mark -- >> yeah. >> go ahead. no, no. please continue. >> just briefly, there was a competitive hoist race in virginia where a sitting incumbent republican member lost not because he vote against president trump in republican leadership but because he had
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the audacity to perform a same-sex marriage ceremony for a couple of staffers and supporters that angered a lot of social conservatives. now he's lost his nomination. >> okay. david mark, thank you as always. great to see you, david. i want to switch gears and bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins. i was just talking about the spikes we're seeing in the sun belt -- sorry -- in the south as well as the west as well. this is exactly what a lot of folks predicted would happen as states started to reopen. >> yeah, yasmin. depending on the angle you want to take, some areas is going up and number of deaths is going down. i've been waiting and searching for why this is. it doesn't make sense. let me explain to you. here's where we are. saturday was horrific. florida was the first highest, texas was the second, louisiana
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fifth. the highest to report in two months on saturday. so the number of cases is going up in some areas. yesterday we had 20,000 and now we're 2.1 million. you notice the blue line. that's still going up. that hasn't really flattened, but the fatality curve over the last month has come down. and look what happened yesterday. only 331 deaths. that's the lowest daily deaths going back through march 25th. and just to show you just how dramatically lower the number of deaths has gone. you can see where we were on sunday. the yellow line is the seven-day average. at the peak, the seven-day average was 2,200 deaths per day. right now we have dropped down to 770 as our seven-day average. obvious let's still way too high, but we have to figure out. sit because -- i haven't heard. is it because our nurses and doctors are better at treating this when people are hospitalized or has it mutated and it's less deadly?
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i haven't heard. it doesn't make sense they're going up, yasmin, but at the same time going down in fatality. something to watch in the weeks ahead. >> i guess that's good news amidst all of this, but it's an important question to ask as this disease morphs. thank you. we look at the futures as the white house calms fears over the second wave of coronavirus infections. the stories driving your business day coming up. among my patients i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues.
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seeing that reflected in equities across the world. u.s. futures at one point were pointing to a near 900-point drop for the dow jones. we have come off of those lows for the day, but street and this follows losses last week for all three major indexes there, the nasdaq, s&p 500 and dow jones. investors worried about the rise in case ratings around the world. and in beijing, of course, china where all of this started. the white house economic add visor larry kudlow weighed in and downplayed concerns around the second coronavirus wave. he said that in an interview with cnn's state of the union that the rising cases stem from increased testing and the increased hospitalizations were in part a function in increase in elective surgeries. he said fatality rates continue to be low and painted an upbeat
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forecast to the economy. it's a stark contrast to what the federal reserve chair gave last week. we will get another update from the chair of the central bank this week. tomorrow he's going to be giving a testimony in front of the senate banking committee so we'll get some updated views potentially from jerome powell then. >> let's talk about the state of california. they are reportedly looking into how the tech giant amazon is treating its third party sellers. >> that's right. on friday "the washington journal" cited people familiar with the matter that authorities are investigating amazon's business practices, how it treats sellers in its onlike marketplace including how amazon sells its own products in competition with online sellers.
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low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto. welcome back, everybody. joining us now from washington with a look as axios a.m. reporter for axios jonathan swan. good morning to you. give us axios' one big thing today. >> so we look inside a very unusual new effort from president trump in which he has
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been replacing and reassigning significant federal officials across multiple agencies without the consent, and at least in one case, without even the knowledge of the people running these agencies. this effort is being helmed by his 30-year-old former body man, john macantee, we take you inside a number of agencies he's doing these incredible moves. i'll give you one example just to illustrate it. chad wolf, who's the acting secretary of homeland security. late morning -- late march he looks at the white house website and sees a press release announcing that he has a new head of public affairs in his agency with the name of the person. this is the first time he becomes aware of this.
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so he panics, he calls the white house situation room to try to get through to john macantee to find out how this happened, such a significant appointment in his agency, not without his consent or knowledge, couldn't get through. he complains to his colleagues later. but this is not just an isolated innocent. ma macantee has overruled others and the paperwork was done. this is something happening across all agencies. >> we know the president is all about loyalty, even to the appointment of macantee. we also know, historically, jonathan, other presidents in the past, they want to hire folks that support their agenda. but this is different.
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and there's even a questionnaire involved when hiring folks to talk about their loyalty, to figure out how loyal they are to the president. >> yeah, it's a question of emphasis. no one would be as absurd to suggest that previous presidents didn't consider loyalty. but macantee has made loyalty the central criteria upon which the candidates are judged, often at the expense of experience. he's redrafted the questionnaire that potential political appointees have to fill out, and it includes questions such as what was it candidate trump's campaign message that most appealed to you. it's sort of mini-essays of tell me why you love and appreciate donald trump. it's quite different than the way it was happening before and
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it's really a formalization of what donald trump always wanted in that office. >> i wouldn't be surprised if the president himself is reading thr through these questionnaires and applications processes while watching ads for his own benefit played in washington d.c. as we have reported. john, you got a peek at the biden campaign agenda for the week. what is it? >> it's to attack donald trump in battleground states that have seen a rise in coronavirus cases. i think in particular north carolina and florida. i wouldn't be surprised if they add arizona. but the ones i have are florida and north carolina. you'll see virtual events and
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other tactics. this is them attacking donald trump on his reopening and try to highlight what they will argue his deficiencies in the way he's handled covid-19. they plan that assault over the coming weeks, but it'll start this week. >> how are they going about it? are these things that we're going to see on television, in commercial broadcasts? is this an online approach? what's the biden campaign's main means of communicating this message? >> it's still very much a virtual campaign, which is in stark contrast to what donald trump is doing. so they're going to be doing virtual surrogate events, press corps, things of that nature. you're not going to see big campaign events from joe biden in the physical world yet. >> jonathan swan thank you as always this morning. i will be reading axios in just
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