>> no, i am behind the peaceful protesti protesting, ari. >> yes, ma'am. >> i am behind the young people fighting the revolution. >> amen and i will be behind my bosses if i don't end on time. i hope you come back on "the beat," keep it here and a programming note, tomorrow we will be joined by the one and only ll cool j, right now, keep it right here on msnbc. ♪ good everyoning i'm steve kornacki in new york. with protests continuing for a 22nd day, the debate over police reform reached a new level today, with president trump rolling out his own plan. in a rose garden ceremony trump signed an executive order that

he said will encourage higher standards in policing, it will create a database to track instances of misconduct and use the broader use of mental health resources and have grant money to incentivize higher standards when it comes to use of force and that would include dropping chokeholds, as he announced the order, he stuck to his message of law and order. >> law and order must be further restored nationwide, and your federal government is ready, willing and able to help. americans want law and order. they demand law and order. they may not say it, they may not be talking about it, but that's what they want. some of them don't even know that's what they want. but that's what had they want and they understand when you remove the police you hurt those who have the least the most.

>> now the president did not address the question of systemic racism today. recent polling shows that 3/4 of americans now believe that racial discrimination is a big problem in this country. trump said that it's only a tiny number of bad officers who are responsible for problems in policing. >> nobody needs a strong, trustworthy police force more than those that live in december tr -- distressed areas. and nobody is morrow opposed to the bad police officers and they are very tiny, i use the word tiny, a very small percentage. >> and trump portrayed his executive order as a starting point, pending further action from congress. with competing bills in the house and the senate, republicans and democrats may be on a collision course on capitol hill. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell said today that the democratic bill in the house is to him a nonstarter.

>> that's a nonstarter, the house version is going nowhere in the senate. it's, it's basically typical democratic over-reach to try to control everything in washington. that, we have no interest in that. >> house speaker nancy pelosi responded to mcconnell late this afternoon. >> he said it's not doing anywhere in the senate, we won't have any of that. we won't have any of what? ending racial profiling? we will not have any of ending choke holds. and senior law enforcement analyst for nbc news, jill colven is a reporter for the associated press and mia is a

legal analyst thank you for joining us. jill, let me start with you. we laid out some of the basics there in terms of what the president announced today. take us through this. this is not legislation, this is not a law. this is an executive order so in terms of enforcing this, in terms of trying implement it, what happens? >> i'm sorry, did you say bill or jill there? i will -- >> jill. >> i will jump in there. so, yeah, the white house formulated this based on things that they thought that they could achieve from a federal perspective. they have been working pretty closely with tim scott on the is not si-- on the senate side on e bill they are trying to finalize now. most of what is in the executive order is things like, effecting grant money that the federal government provides to local and state police departments. they are threatening here to

withhold money and to only grant money if police departments abide by certain things like a training regime that advises against using chokeholds. they are taking a fairly limited approach to what they believe is the most effective way to move forward. >> well, bill, let me bring you in on that, you certainly have experience running big police departments. if you were in your old job, and an executive order from the president that we saw today such as we saw today came out, how would that affect what your police force does? would it affect what your police force does? >> not a great deal. the big problem in american policing is there's 18,000 departments, in 50 states. 50 governors, 50 state legislatures. we have the congress. we have the president. there are a lot of cooks in the kitchen working on a stew that's going to end up becoming a mess

rather than what the country needs. which is, consistency. we have no consistency. and so, we are seeing it's going to get worse. the president has his plan. senate has their plan. congress has its plan. the states and governors have number plans. it's a mess. unfortunately. and it's in a time when there's so much energy, and so much interest and reform, this is the time. and i'm just worried that we are going to lose the opportunity the way the country has been going for so many years with the political infighting and grandstanding. ineffectual actions. we are not in a good lace place this moment. >> when you say what is missing is consistency, there's police forces in cities and towns all over the country. there's a lot of layers of government going from the local level to the top, the presidency. where do you this i the

consistency needs to be? where would you like to see it come from? who should take the lead here? >> i think it needs to be taken at national level at the least on some of these policies. whether it's chokehold training regimen. the laws that would impact in terms of funding, guidance, the problem in the united states is we have very few national standards. we have constitutional interpretations by the supreme court that dictate and guide policing, other than that, national standards do not exist. we have this hodge-podge, a national commission on accetidation. we have different areas passing actions. why can a chief in one city fire an officer immediately when they do something wrong and someplace else it takes years as union arbitration issues and state laws. we are all over the place on the issue. maybe if we could get all the sides together to talk about

this, we might come up with something that would work. >> so, on that front, mia wiley, let's turn to you, there's a question after the executive order what if anything will emerge from congress, democrats in the house have a bill they have put forward. and republicans that control the senate, they have designated tim scott as their point man. they say they have a proposal that is in the works here. what do you see in terms of reforms that can get through congress that might get through congress here. what do you see as the major, most important steps that congress should be taking here? >> well, i think the house bill has laid out a number of very important reforms and let's start with one of the major ones that commissioner bratton mentioned indirectly. which is the idea that a police officer can violate somebody's constitutional rights in the case that was just before the

supreme court, an example being a man who was homeless, in handcuffs and the police allegedly sicked the dog on him and bit him. and the courts below said well, you can't sue for that because we only said in previous case law that if you were laying down and handcuffed, they could not sick a dog on you. this guy was sitting up, so i don't know, it was not clear to the police officers whether they could sick a dog on the handcuffed man. that was the time of crazy making that has enabled the law enforcement framework, get tough on crime framework, to become lawless policing and that has to shift and that's the thing that donald trump, despite his victory lap on the coffins of black people which was the only way that any of us could have read the press conference, was essentially saying, that's a no-go. we are not even going to talk about the ability to hold police

accountable after they have done something like violate your constitutional rights. i think that what we are going to see is significantly morin ovation at the local level where we will see mayor eeors and cit council members say, we have a new vision of policing and it will not come from national government right now. >> that is interesting what you are saying, you are bringing up what appears to be one of the biggest stumbling blocks between the two parties in increase congress here. the issue of qualifily immunity, the ability to pass a bill that allows individuals to sue police officers and hold them liable in civil court for their actions. currently that is not happening. bill bratton, let's bring you back in on the question. the politics on this in congress, as i understand it, it's something that democrats want. this is something that the white house sent a signal that it's a

poison pill to them. i have heard openness from some republicans of qualified immunity. i'm curious of your perspective from a law enforcement background. would you be okay with changing the law here and allowing individuals to sue officers or is that something that you would have an objection to? >> i would want to pursue it cautiously. there's going to be enough disincentive already for people to join american policing after the encvents of the last severa months. that if you reduce some of the safe-guards that exist for people who you expect to go in to harm's way with their lives and the lives of others at risk, you are going to further disincentivize people getting in to policing anyway. we have to tread carefully in the idea of doing away with it, that's a nonstarter for law

enforcement from the get-go. should it be subject to reform? certainly the abuses that are so clear that in terms of the intent of the officer, that can be shown. but the idea of doing away with it, very much like the phrase defund the police. made for a nice phrase at the beginning, but people quickly backed away from it when they understand the defunding of police was sending difference messages to different people. same for this issue. it's sending different messages to different people. >> jill, let me bring you back in on that too. because this is, we say one of the issues here, the parties seem to be at an impass on. in terms of major reforms on the agenda right here, what are the others right now? >> i mean, there's some areas where democrats and republicans are agreeing, for instance, creating this national database of police officers, you have numerous complaints against

them, and the way the system is set up, there's not a lot of accountability and they can move from department to department without knowing the records they have. that is an area of agreement. and we have seen movement on the chokehold discussion. that was originally something that we had not expected to be included in the white house executive order. it's something that republicans you know, had discussion about, looks like it's going to be in their version of the legislation as well. so, there's some areas of agreement. and you know, from people i have spoken to, especially activists who went through the discussions over the first step act. and they have been pretty impressed as how much discussion there has been and how much momentum there does seem to be here. they feel optimistic a that something is going to get through. but we have been on the moments so frequently, you know, to think school shootings that happened. so frequently in the country, where it feels that we are on the precipice of agreement and movement, things start to fall apart as the movement slows. >> mia as i was asking that

question to jill, it looked to me through the screen that you wanted to respond to what bill bra the amp bratton said on the idea of suing the police. >> well, i want to be clear that the democratic proposal does not say there's no immunity whatsoever anywhere any time. it is very much about making sure that what essentially is called qualified immunity now is absolute guarantee that you will not be held accountable and the other thing that people should understand and this is true in new york city is, you know, the city pays out in the likes of the last five fiscal years over a billion dollars in claims for personal injury, property damage. not one dime comes from the police department budget. what that means is, there's not a lot of incentive or enough

incentive to hold the department accountable. so the questions of accountability, there has to be more incentive around police officers doing the right thing. and i agree with commissioner bratton that we want to diversify the force but another way to do that is not allow the unions to ensure that the pay at entry level is so low while we are paying out big benefits at the top level that are predominantly white. there's many reforms that we should be talking about. and a lot of them do have to do with moving resources out of ple police departments in to problem solving so we have less need for the number of police we have. >> there's a lot to all of these issues here as the debate progresses. look forward to talking about it more and more with you. we are out of time for the segment, but bill, jill, mia, i

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welcome back, as americans venture out of their homes more and more, there are now upticks in coronavirus cases in some parts of the country. as of today, more than 2.1 million americans have been infected in this country. that is more than 117,000 of whom have died. on monday, the institute for health metrics and evaluation revised the projected death toll

from the virus to more than 200,000 by october 1st. it's previous estimate was 30,000 less than that. according to data collected by the new york times. more than 20 states have seen growth in newly reported cases over the last 14 days. this comes with testing also increasing dramatically around the country. it explains some of the increases and the times data shows that if quote, at least 14 states the positive case rate is increasing faster than the average number of tests. nationally the picture is complicated right now. a total number of new reported cases is basically flat in the last two weeks. not rising, not falling. at the same time, the number of new deaths has declined significantly by 25%. today, vice president mike pence addressed fears of a second wave. writing that such panic is over blown. and he added that in the six states that have reached more than a thousand more cases a day, increased testing has allowed public health officials to identify most of the outbreaks in particular settings

like prisons, nursing homes and meat packing facilities. and the white house today president trump talked up the prospects on of -- prospects of a vaccine in the future. >> i predict we will have a vaccine, that you are p-- witho away. but if we had the vaccine and we will, if we had theraputic or cure, one thing sort of blends in to the other, it will be a fantastic day and i think that's going to happen. and it's going to happen very soon. >> and for more i'm joined by dr. john torres, msnb medical correspondent, thank you for joining us. i was reading an article up on our website today, it's not a second wave that we are seeing right now, this is still the first wave. can you explain what you had think is going on?

>> it's coming down to symmantics essentially and what experts are saying, we have not cleared the first wave, so we cannot call it a second wave at this point. we are calling it spikes at the end of the first wave. which could take us back to the precurve level, that down slope on the curve, where we could be back to where we were in february and march. and one thing we do know, once things start opening up, every expert, i was talking on your show and other shows, we will see the cases increase, what has surprised a lot of experts is how much the cases are increased. because they are more than most people thought and that's why you are seeing theses spikes. the problem is, that second wave is not far behind. and so, unless we get it under control now, the second wave hitting at the same time could cause a lot of issues, steve. >> have we learned lessons from the last few months watching it play out, in terms of, there's the question of can you go back to a stay-at-home order, would the public be willing to go back to a stay-at-home order in the places. put it aside and get to the question of how to balance the

imperatives here, have we learned about best practices when it comes to trying to go about some bit of normal life? >> and steve, we definitely have, and you are right, getting the genie back in the bottle is going to be hard tif not impossible. experts are saying there could be other ways to do it. in ireland, they are not closing down in the second wave, they are going target the problem areas and get those under control, but the things we have learned over the past few months are the big three things that we know work. wearing masks, definitely works. social distancing, that six feet and not gathering in large groups. and so, what i think you are seeing, that map you showed earlier, are the states definitely the testing has gone up, so the numbers go up. but cases have gone up as well. new cases, and what are you seeing is the states that went fast, opened up greatly, and are having issues right now, verse states that went slow, and opened up in incremental fashion

and people are wearing the masks people are social distancing. the problem is, in some of the states people are getting to the prepandemic behavior. where they don't they they need masks or social distancing. hopefully it does not get us in a lot of trouble and we are not back to where we were a few months ago. steve. >> there was positive news on the treatment front. researchers in the united kingdom said they have found the first drug proven to the reduce deaths in coronavirus patients. they found in a trial of 6,000 patients, among those that received the steroid deaths were reduced in a third of those patients that were on mechanical ventilation and among those that had trouble breathing but were not on a ventilator. it did not help patients who did not require oxygen. i had a sinus infection and used this drug. it's a fairly common drug.

what is the research showing, why is it appearing to be working? >> it a very common drug and widely available and inexpensive. i have been using it since the day i stepped in to medicine and for sinus infections, allergic reactions, a variety of things, it's been around since the '60s and what the trial has shown is that people that are severely ill, they are on ventilators ended up more than survived because they were placed on this. which makes it the first treatment that can save lives. other treatments have shown to help a bit. but this is the first one that saves lives. the issue is, that we know it does not work early on, so the thing is don't go out and get a prescription. don't repeat what we saw with hydroxychloroquine, it's not going to help and it could have side affects but hopefully it's the first of many tools in the tool box until we get to the vaccine and help people recover.

>> that was the other thing that was interesting about this, this discovery came as part of a broader trial that is taking drugs, taking medicine like this, that is commonly used for other purposes and just seeing if it works. just see figure it has an affect. and as i understand it, that trial is still going on now. i guess, is there a significance to it that it suggests the possibility that there's more discovers like this? >> it does suggest the possible ity that we will see more things. they are looking at a lot of drugs and they are taking the drugs with very educated guesses. they are saying okay, this drug, works to reduce inflammation. we know the cytokine storm causes organ damage and failure, if we can get it under control, let's see if it does that. it worked in certain cases. they are looking at other medicines as well. they are not just throwing the kitchen sink at it, they are looking at things that work for

certain areas of the disease process and seeing if it works in that case. one thing that we though about it, it did not work for sars in 2002/2003, here it's working. different virus and it's a new virus, we are learning more as we go every day. >> it cleared my sinus infection in an hour. it has anti-inflam tomatory i c vouch for that. thank you for joining us. >> you bet. >> florida is seeing a spike in cases after reopening and the nursing homes have spared the level of deaths seen in other states. we will ask florida congressman charlie crist how his state protected nursing home residents right after this, stay with us. it's time for the lowest prices of the season on

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welcome back, well there have been encouraging signs in the fight against the coronavirus the number of states are facing an uptick in cases. today, florida reported a record single day increase with more than 2700 new ones reported. so, case rups in florida. and testing is up too, we should note. the positive test rate is up, it's now 5%, which is more than 3% that it was two weeks ago and now all of it coming with florida in the second phase of their reopening. for more, i'm joined by former governor of florida, and

congressman charlie crist. thank you for joining us, prert -- appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> the governor is saying the rise in cases is a function mainly of testing and also, he said that there's outbreaks among agricultural workers where it spreads easily, they work closely. what is your sense of what is happening in florida as it relates to the numbers? >> well, i think it's straight forward, steve. you know, we started reopening several weeks ago, on a phase-in type basis if you will according to the governor. which i thought was a prudent way to approach it. you have to be smart about how you do it. the result we have seen in recent days is that the number of cases per day have almost been doubling. it has gone up to over 2,000, 3 of the last 4 days per day. and so, that is a disturbing figure. and when you start to see that kind of an uptick and most people don't think we are close to phase 2 of the virus yet.

that is something that we need to be concerned about and obviously more testing is going to be more helpful the more that we can get it done and accomplished here in florida. and throughout the country for that matter. >> well, so, what would you like, are there steps? i should put it this way, are there steps that you think the governor should be taking now? should he be putting a pause on reopening? should he be rolling it back? do you think there should be a policy response right now to it? or do you think you want to wait and see a bit? >> well, no, that's a very good question. and you know, as the former governor i hesitate to be a monday morning quarterback on these things. however, having said that, it seems fairly apparent to me that everyone wants to reopen the economy because look at the loss of jobs throughout the country. over 45 million people out of work. that is extraordinary, that is depression type numbers. what you want to do though is have the opportunity to try to reopen the economy but do it smart. do it effectively, i mean, by the grace of god, you need to message stronger. and make sure that, you know, when people are in groups, they

are out and they are wearing their masks. or you are, you are obviously social distancing appropriately. not communicating in crowds as the doctor just testified to. those are the kind of things that i think we need to do and i think would be great for our administration both at the state and federal level is to tell people how important it is to use masks. make sure that you are social distancing. this being smart. utilizing common sense this. thing is far from over. we will with it for a while. we have to be prudent and smart about how we handle it. >> those are the best practices that individuals can be taking when you are talking about masks and social distancing. in terms of the policy here, this phased reopening that is under way. do you think that should be revisited? do you think there should be a pause on that? do you think anything that happened so far in terms of reopening should be rolled back at all? >> i do. i do think that is the case. steve. i think, that you know, taking a pause and pulling back a bit and learning from what we found.

i heard people describe it as we are trying to build the plane as we are flying it and there's truth to that. each day gives you more wisdom and knowledge and a better opportunity to appropriately respond to what is happening on the ground. and what is happening on the ground right now in florida, we are getting more than 2000 cases a day, we had 1700 in the past 24 hours. but the trend is in the wrong direction. it's not what we want. it's not good for the people. it's time to sort of retrench, if you will. and be smarter and wiser about how we deal with it to protect the people, their health, safety and welfare. >> and there's a question nationally and in florida, of nursing homes the death count in the u.s. toppi inping 117 thous and now 50 thousand of the deaths have come from nursing homes or long-term care facilities. and it was found in the early weeks of the outbreak, a number of states like new york, new jersey and michigan ordered nursing homes to accept residents back from the hospital

even if they had been treated for the virus and without any additional testing. in the weeks following those orders about 6% of new york's nursing home residents died from the virus. 5% in michigan. and 12% in new jersey, florida did not have such an order and it saw less than 2% of nursing home residents die from the virus. that said, nearly half of the covid-19 deaths in florida are connect to long-term care or nursing home facilities. i'm curious on the issue because i know you wrote a letter to the governor there in florida looking for more testing at nursing homes throughout the state. i was just seeing they did have a crash testing program that got through a lot of the nursing homes reported that in the last couple of days what do you think of the productions that are place and the procedures that are in place in florida considering the nursing homes? >> we need to step it up frankly i wrote to the governor that we ought to be testing on a week lg basis, not just the residents of

the facility bought the staff. it's a broad spectrum that we are dealing with here. and the only way to get a handle on it is through testing. that way we know how many people are infected and how many people are not and how many are potential carriers and you can address the situation. as the doctor said a few minutes ago on the show, there's a new steroid that has a great promise to it. and i know the community out of ireland and england said the same thing. we need to pay attention to it. if we have testing and we have that knowledge and opportunity, we can stem the tide of those cases that sadly lead to death. >> congressman charlie crist, the goveformer governor of flor. i appreciate it. >> all right, thank you steve. >> we are 140 days away from election day. have new polling data and we will show you how the president stands against joe biden and how

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you know, we got an interesting streak going right now when it comes to presidents running for election. all threee ele elected, run for re-election and won. is donald trump going to be the fourth? we take you through the data and we thought, let's look at the past presidents and a few others and all the recent presidents who ran for re-election. how did they stand in the polls at this exact same point? we are 140 days out from the election. how did they stand and where does trump stand in comparisons? we will show the different categories. this is ronald reagan running in

84 and this is a gallup approval rating. reagan and clinton were well in the 50s. reagan's approval was on its way up. bill clinton, you know, he a political near death experience with the '94 mid terms he was all the way up to near 60%. what was it translating in to and what were they on course for? reagan won an 18 point margin in the popular vote. bill clinton beat bob dole, that was robust approval ratings and that translated to robust election margins. how about this, bush, obama, i just mentioned them, they were not in the 50s. they were in the high 40s. it was not awful, not great, it was, somewhere in between there. 47 for bush and 48 for obama. they both won, narrow, bush came

down to ohio with john kerry and barack obama beating mitt romney, those were battles they were in all year. they both did win, they were in the high 40 how about this category. you know the stories here. both of them were in deep, deep trouble. under 40%, recession for bush, hostage crisis for carter. all kinds of of problems in the late 70s to early 80s. that translated to big losses, by 6, by 10. so where does trump stand by comparison. you can see where i stands by comparison. i will show you, 43%. that is his average approval rating right now. 43, it's not quite right now down there where bush and carter were, is it going to move down in that direction? it's also not quite up where bush and obama were. is it going to move in that direction? if it moves in that direction, starts to have a chance. if it stays here, trouble too. keep an eye on the numbers. still ahead, the initial batch

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that will still provide some kind of bonus for returning to work. but, it will not be as large and it will create an incentive to work. >> welcome back, that was national economic council chair larry kudlow calling the expa expandexpan expanded unemployment benefits giving an additional $600 a week a disincentive to work, they are expect to expire at the end of the july and often unemployment workers replace less than what half workers earn. the democratic proposal would extend the benefits through the end of the year. but the white house and some republican lawmakers have proposed offering a back to work bonus instead as glassdoor senior economist said that generous unemployment assistance can slow reentry in to the workforce, it's less likely that

they are drawing unemployment because of not finding jobs. jobs are down 30% from precrisis levels. stephan >> thanks to both of you for being with us. stephanie, let me start with you. on sort of the economics of this. because this additional $600 that the federal government is kicking in. just in terms of what normal unemployment benefits are, this is a big increase in terms of what the federal government is doing. the argument here is if you shift to reopening, you got folks that say, you are getting more unemployment than they would be at say, a waiter or waitress job. what is your sense of that? >> okay, in some instances that is the case. it is an expanded unemployment benefit more generous than we have seen. when they first signed the cares act, i remember chuck schumer called it unemployment on steroids. but it's a flawed and insincere

argument to say, well, we have to create another incentive because people don't want to go back to work. steve, they want to go back to work. who is going to watch their children. we don't have schools or child care, it's just starting to reopen. let's say you we don't have schools open. we don't have child care. it's just starting to reopen in this country. let's say you ore a waiter, waitress or bar tender and your restaurant just reopened. chances are they only have outside seating or they have to, to adhere to social distancing. if you're a bar tender, there won't be a packed bar in your future. so the job opportunities out there are very thin and they're unstable. so many people have said they have more security taking care of themselves and their family being on unemployment right now. while there are many republicans saying well, we're going to let this go until july and then get back out there, you could see that shift, because you have already heard from fed chair jay powell, steve nooufmnuchin, we

need another stimulus check because there are not robust job opportunities out there. one out of every five americans took a pay cut. so larry kudlow is misrepresenting the job market. >> more businesses continue to reopen, some industries are having issues in getting people back to work. leaders from the beer brewing industry and manufacturing sector say workers would rather collect unemployment benefits. laid off workers could be making more on unemployment than if they returned to work. so in terms of what's going to happen or what is happening in congress right now, end of july this $600 add-on is set to expire. democrats say they want to extend that through the end of the year. it sounds like the white house and republicans perhaps want to restructure this, turn it into hey, if you get hired for a job, then you get a cash bonus. where are the lines drawn on this, and what's likely to happen here?

>> steve, i've spoke on the a number of republican sources in the senate today, and what they are very clear on is this $600 a month unemployment benefit is not going to be extended as is. they do not say what they're going to do instead. they are not sure what they are for, they know what they are against, that's the democratic proposal. there is one idea being floated that could satisfy both sides, that is to create a trigger. unemployment falls in certain states, and that leads to a reduction in the benefits. so what republicans are saying this creates incentive to go back to work. but if you reduce the benefit, you eliminate that problem. it's good for republicans, because they don't want to legislate with new spending that's tough to explain ideal logically, and democrats worry about a scenario where joe biden wins the election, republicans

lose their appetite for stimulus. the last thing i'll say is the action here is going to be before the fourth of july recess. it's going to be in the last three weeks of july. right now the conversation has been eclipsed by the george floyd protests and republicans want to do a police reform bill. so it's a very short window and a very steep cliff at the end of july. >> stephanie? >> the other point to make is, liability and increased testing. many people are still concerned, will they have health care? who will take care of them if they get sick? we are not seeing broad based testing happening, certainly not in small or large businesses. so there's also that health concern. you have larry kudlow who says i don't think we're going see a second spike in corona. guess what, larry? we're still in the first one and it's rising. so, again, we are forgetting, we're in the middle of a paem

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he's doing a book, i think it's totally inappropriate that he does a book. ly consider every conversation with me as president highly classified. so that would mean that if he wrote a book, and if the book gets out he's broken the law. and maybe he's not telling the truth. he's been nope not to tell the truth, a lot. >> welcome back. that was president trump yesterday on his former national security adviser john bolton in his upcoming tell-all book on the trump administration. trump making the argument that every conversation he had with bolton was "highly classified." late today, though, the justice department filed a civil lawsuit to block the publication of the book. the lawsuit claims that bolton

"struck a bargain with the united states as a condition of his employment, and now wants to renege on that bargain." the book, which is stateled "the room where it happened, a white house memoir" was slated to come out next week. the publisher says the book is a precise rendering of his days in and around the of the office. what bolton saw astonished him. a president for whom getting re-elected was the only thing that mattered, even if it meant endangering or weakening the nation. that press release says this, trump's ukraine-like transgressions existed across the full range of his foreign policy. and just a few minutes ago, the publisher responded to the suit with this statement, the lawsuit filed by the department of justice to block john bolton from publishing his book is nothing more than the latest in a long running series of efforts by the administration to quash publication of a book it deems unflattering to the president. ambassador bolton has worked in

full cooperation with the nsc in its prepublication review to address concerns and simon and schuster supports his first amendment right to tell his story of his time in the white house to the american public. we will see if that gets published. if it does, imagine the sales. don't go anywhere. "all in with chris hayes" is up next. tonight on "all in" -- as protests push the president on police reform, congressman hakim jefferies on whether the trump executive order means anything. and then san francisco mayor london breed on the changes she's already making in her city. plus, armed militia on the streets of albuquerque and a protester shot. new mexico's governor will join me. and dnc chair tom perez on his plans to fight voter suppression in 2020. "all in" starts right now.