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this type of a platform, we want to participate. it's time for our voices to be heard, and we're doing it through classic hip-hop now in a big way. so that's kind of the short of it. but people should go to the website and check out exactly what i'm talking about. i think that it's really important for our country and important for the culture. we have to support each other. you know what i mean? >> ll cool j, thank you to much. that does it for "the beat." keep it right here on msnbc. good evening. i'm joy reid. 46 minutes, that's how long 27-year-old rayshard brooks was detained by two white atlanta police officers for non-crime for falling asleep in a wendy's drive through, before one of them shot and killed him. 46 minutes in which he was not each told he was under arrest.
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and today, in a dramatic press conference in atlanta, a black district attorney, fulton county d.a. paul l. howard, jr., laid down an historic marker in the history of american police accountability. the now former atlanta officer who shot and killed rayshard brooks, will be charged with felony murder. garrett rolfe, who shot brooks twice in the back, faces 11 charges, which in addition to murder include aggravated assault for firing in a parking lot full of cars, leaving bullet holes in at least one of them. and violating his oath as a police officer. if convicted, he faces the possibility of life in prison, or even the death penalty. attorney howard said, video after the shooting showed rolfe kicked brooks, that the second officer involved, devin brosnan, stood on brooks' body as he lay on the ground dying. >> we were able to conclude that, based on the way that
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these officers conducted themselves while mr. brooks was lying there, that the demeanor of the officers immediately after the shooting did not reflect any fear or danger of mr. brooks. >> the other officer faces three years, and that he's cooperating with prosecutors and would help resolve the investigation more quickly. an attorney for brooks' family says cooperation is a first ten toward change. >> even in dark times like this, you have to try and see the light. and the positivity of this situation is the courageousness of officer brosnan to step forward and say what happened
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was wrong. it is officers like that who change policing. and i know he'll probably catch all kind of problems and hate and things like that. but if the courageousness of those type of officers that we love and support. >> atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms responded to the charges in a statement, saying -- >> prosecutors have asked both police officers to surrender to authorities by 6:00 p.m. tomorrow. i'm joined by my guests. thank you to all who are here. and i want to first get the city councilman's response to this, antonio brown. what do you make of what happened today? this was a very dramatic press
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conference, but also despite all that praise, the attorney for the second officer sort of walking back and then calling the prosecution premature. >> yeah, you know, it was extremely disheartening just to hear a lot of the details that a lot of us, including city council members and law enforcement individuals were unfamiliar with. like the fact that they were standing over him and kicked him. it's just extremely disheartening. i think district attorney paul hua howard laid out a reasonable case for the charges. for the people, we just want justice. part of that justice is an actual conviction at this point. >> and do you -- are you confident in, you know, part of what was so dramatic was the attorney, you know, the district attorney saying one of these officers is going to cooperate. that got kind of walked back. this is defen brosnan's attorney
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that issued a statement, he's not agreed to be a state's witness or testify in any court hearing or to plead guilty to any charge. the decision to initiate charges by the d.a.'s office is irration irrational. so after all that praise from victims and witnesses, it's not as cut and dry. do you have confidence this prosecution will result in conviction? >> you know, i would concur with what mayor bottoms said. you know, the district attorney's office has several cases that's on his desk in which we're still waiting for charges to be drawn on. so i would hope that for district attorney paul howard to bring charges against these officers, that his case is solid enough to ensure that at the end of this, there is a conviction. people are hurting right now, and the reality is, we've seen this time and time again where we have brought charges against officers. and at the end of the day, there is no conviction. so the people want to see justice, and part of that
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justice is conviction. >> let me bring in marilyn mosby. i can still remember being in baltimore and hearing the cheers on a street when you announced -- when they heard over the radio there would be prosecutions in the case of freddie gray. so you know how hard this is to do. you already had a statement out from garrett rolfe's attorney. >> this is the fear for my life, they went for my gun. it's the usual script we hear in these cases. having done this before, having listened to the case that was laid out by the attorney in atlanta, how confident are you
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that a case bike this could result in conviction? >> well, first and foremost, i think that we have to give credit where cred sit due. you cannot juunderestimate the power of a prosecutor to do his job. you have a black man, paul l. howard, in atlanta, who made a decision to come against these officers in this particular case. and let me tell you, that comes with being mocked, ridiculed, that becomes with the media, the fraternal order of police who have already been on the defense. so i want to first and foremost give credit where credit is due. and then understanding and recognizing it goes just beyond the charges. there are going to be challenges in this particular case. what he has that i did not have that i wish i had is video evidence. that's going to be extremely important in this case. you have the actual killing at the time that it occurred, this man being shot in the back, right? so that's definitive evidence.
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unlike we have in freddie gray. we originally, and it sounded initially had officer cooperation. we did not have that in freddie gray. we had a blue wall of silence. we had to compel the officers from the highest state court to testify against one another. what we have in this particular case is paul howard has outlined that he's done an independent investigation. that is incredibly important, because what often happens is that police departments and any professional when they're investigating their own, they don't ask the most pertinent questions. you should never be put in a position where you rely upon that profession to investigate and ultimately you're making the decision. >> indeed. paul, let me bring you in. your book "chokehold" is a must read. everybody should be reading it. "i feared for my life," they already played that in the
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statement. but let me play what the d.a. said about the prosecution of police officers and how frequently he's had to do it in fulton county. take a listen. >> unfortunately, this marks the 40th prosecution of police officer s here in our county. and this is the ninth time that we've prosecuted a homicide case committed by a police officer. eight of those cases involved black males, and one of those cases involved a black female. >> you know, paul, this case, particularly does remind me of the walter scott case, a rare case you get a conviction. but that was after a hung jury, after a video didn't convince a jury he should be convicted. you heard how detailed was laid out today by attorney paul howard. when you heard that kind of detail, including he had his
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back to him, the taser fired over him, that there was no threat to the officer, that he shot so blindly, he hit other cars. he said he feared for the other people in the parking lot, but he shot into their cars. does that kind of detail help a prosecution, and what kind of message is being sent by not only this but the minneapolis case, the george floyd case, the walter scott shooter is now in prison, will this change police behavior more than anything else? >> the message is, there's a new day when police officers used excessive force against african-americans or any other citizens. the stakes in this case are extremely high. but murder conviction raises the stakes -- or the murder charge raises the stakes even higher. it's one thing to charge murder, it's another thing to get a murder conviction. georgia police officers have killed about 182 people in the
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last five years. prior to today, only one officer has been charged with murder, and that officer was not convicted of murder. the issue will be whether the officer's use of deadly force was reasonable. th that is, he believed he would be killed or seriously injured or someone else would be killed or seriously injured. the evidence that the prosecution has is mr. brooks threatened with a stun gun, a taser. that's not a deadly weapon. moreover, after the shooting, the officer checked mr. brooks and said, i got you. so that sounds like the shooting was more about punishment for mr. brooks resisting than saving someone's life. the defense, on the other hand, will say that the use of force was reasonable, and that a taser, when used by someone who is not properly trained, is a dangerous weapon. >> yeah.
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we will see what happens. we'll be keeping an eye on it. antonio brown, thank you very much for your time. marilyn mosby, thanks for being here. paul butler, thank you. coming up, more on this historic moment in the black lives matter movement. two police officers charged with murder. that's next. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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welcome back. the news out of atlanta today marks a watershed moment in the history of american policing. within just the last two weeks, we've seen former police officers charged in two states for killing african-american men. in announcing felony murder and assault charges in atlanta today, fulton county district attorney paul howard made a forceful case for police reform, saying in his view as a prosecutor, there needs to be charges -- changes to the qualified immunity long enjoyed by american police officers.
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>> i have put together a list of nine recommendations, and i believe recommendation number eight is, that we ought to eliminate both sovereign immunity and qualified immunity for cases involving police shootings. we've got to do it. you know, my barometer that says to me that something is wrong with that immunity, even our good friend clarence thomas says something is wrong with it, and when clarence thomas says that it's bad, you know it's probably pretty bad. >> ouch. when even clarence thomas is for it, whew. in fact, attorney howard offered tougher, clearer policy recommendations today than the republican senators, who lined up behind south carolina senator tim scott to offer their plan this morning. much like donald trump's executive order yesterday, the proposed republican bill, which mitch mcconnell presented as the only game in town, would merely
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discourage the police tactics that have set off three weeks of worldwide protests. possibly even a human rights inquiry by the united nations, which heard from george floyd's brother today. unlike the democratic bill in the house, the scott republican proposal does not ban chokeholds, does not limit no-knock warrants or address qualified immunity. while the streets are crying defund police, the republican bill provides more dofunding to the country's 18,000 police departments. i'm joined now by los angeles mayor eric garcetti. mayor, for mayors, as you watch what's happening in your votes and all over the country, maybe all over the world, what do you feel would empower you to offer the people who are protesting something real? do you think it's time to give mayors more power over the police departments, to take some funding away, would that empower you as a mayor?
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>> no question. we're easti ineither going to m or miss this moment. we as a nation cannot miss this moment. we've been waiting for this moment for all of our lives. this is a moment for us to birth a true multiracial democracy. that starts with accountability. elected representatives, listening to the people say what can we do to reimagine public safety. so that yes, the historic lows in crime we can keep, but not at the expense of a black man who gets stopped for looking wrong, or the most tragic situations like the execution of george floyd. we have to be able to say there's too much we put on the shoulders of our plifolice officers. what can we move away to social workers and others to confront homelessness and not always ask for a police officer to answer those calls. so in is a time to be transformative, to be big and bold, and not just accept the
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status quo or weak tea, as somebody called it, some of the proposals that come out of the white house or the republicans in the senate. >> you know, rodney king, it was 1992, hard to believe that long ago the streets erupted in your city over that situation. and now we're here. talk to us about just how it works functionally for you. if you started to move some of the responsibilities out of your police department in your city in l.a., would that mean that by default, you would have -- you would need fewer police officers, and how would the union respond to the idea that maybe you don't need so many patrol officers, maybe you could move some of that funding and some of that work to specialists who don't have guns? >> i don't think it's a threat at all to police unions or to police officers. in fact, many times it's the politicians that want to grow departments and say i've gone from 1,000 to 2,000 or 9,000 to 10,000 officers, when really what we want is public safety.
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for the existing officers who still have a job, who are trained well, who are part of the community, that's not something threatening to them and shouldn't be threatening to a union. here in los angeles this is a new work. we started almost a decade ago, a gang reduction program, that dwo took former gang members and shifted funds to that. in those places where those folks go out there to be peacemakers, program our parks in the summer, go out there to deal with the cycle violence from domestic violence to dating and gang violence, we've seen reduction in crime of 40%, 50%, countless lives saved. so when we say we have the lowest homicide rate in los angeles, it's not just the good work of police officers, but interventionists and prevention folks. so every city that's not doing that is missing part of the equation on how to truly make a community safe. >> all right. mayor garcetti, thank you very much. really appreciate you being
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here. after senate republicans today unveiled their long awaited police reform proposal, which relies mainly on giving more money to police, grants and the usual talk about training, more training, senate minority leader chuck schumer and nancy pelosi made it clear it does not go anywhere near far enough.e d dressing, toothless bill. we need to take action that is real. >> real change comes with accountability. as drafted, the republican bill doesn't provide it. >> the bills on police reform have put the democratic house and republican led senate on a collision course. i'm joined by democratic senator shared brown of ohio. what did you make of that presentation today? you had all of these senators, lining up and saying words that sounded compassionate. but what they are offering is like studies and something about
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the black museum. i wasn't clear they were offering any substantive policy change. am i missing something? >> well, the bill offered by senator booker and senator harris and three dozen or so senate democrats, i'm one of them, is a serious proposal. the proposal by republicans is not serious. they're not serious about this. they're responding to news reports that their bill -- they put more money in police, but not what the mayor of los angeles just said, putting money into various kinds of other public safety that will serve the public. nothing on anti-bias training, nothing on mental health, none of that. it's just more money for police. the democratic plan -- the other thing the republican plan does is a lot of data collection. it's going to produce more studies, as if we don't know what has happened on the streets of our country.
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as if this hasn't showed us racial disparities up close finally. >> you know, it feels like republicans in a lot of ways are just not understanding how serious this moment is. here's george floyd's brother, philoni philonise, who testified to the united nations human rights council. take a listen. >> you have the power to help us get justice for my brother, george floyd. i hope that you would consider establishing an independent commission of inquiry to investigate police killings of black people in america, and the violence used against peaceful protesters. >> are the democrats in the united states senate prepared to fight for the bill you just
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talked about, the cory booker version, the kamala harris version and ignore the tim scott bill? >> well, i think we probably don't ignore it, we contrast and show where they do a study on police chokeholds, we do anti-bias training. we say no to military equipment. so we make that contrast. but yeah, we had a caucus today, a discussion about it, about 20 of us. and are more ready for us. we're going to make that contrasting show. >> well, you know, the reason i ask you that, democrats believe in legislating and believe in government, that mitch mcconnell will say this is the only game in town, you get this bill or no bill, you can amend this bill or go home while he does more judges. democrats say okay, fine, we'll pass it. and it becomes a must-pass bill in the house. and then the bill that the house members have worked on, which is
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a more robust bill than what the republicans are offering, becomes the bill. and we're back to where we've been even the c.a.r.e.s. accused, where it's something that you're stuck with and have to try to fix belatedly. so can you assure those listening today that democrats in the united states senate will not allow the mcconnell bill to go through? >> well, if he passes it on a party line vote, we can't stop it, but we will fight and let people know we're fighting and we know whose side we're on as a party. the civil rights groups, pretty much all the civil rights groups support our bill and will help us in this fight. we have programs like yours that highlight the difference between the republican bill or even worst, the president's proposal. and what we're fighting for, we will make that fight. i can't guarantee we win,
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because there's only 47 democratic senators, but we will make that fight. >> let's listen to senator limdz -- lindsay graham today. >> to my colleagues on the other side who said we talk too much, where were you for the eight years of the obama administration? i'm getting tired by getting lectured that all this is trump's fault. you had eight years, no attempts to bap chokeholds, no attempts to do any of the things we all agree we need to do now. >> it's a weird tact to take when he's got a contested race in november to just go obama is bad. if that's what you're facing on the other side, will democrats be better off to fold your hands and wait for january, 2021 to
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pass police reform? >> we don't just fold our cards or sit on our hands and wait. we make the fight, we try to win. we enlist the public. we know the public -- in large part because of all the things that have happened in the last few months, the pandemic has been the great revealer of racial disparities, so many of these murders are now on video. such a diverse activist generation of young people, and a racist president who almost brags about his racism. that to me says the public will be overwhelmingly for us, which sometimes congress surprises people by doing the right thing because of public -- because of the public energy behind our efforts. and that's what we will fight for and no guarantees, but if we lose, we come back in january with a new president and a new senate. and we accomplish then many things that we're not able to accomplish. what lindsey graham said about
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the last eight years, it was mitch mcconnell blocking one thing after another after another and then trump undoing the exact boarders that president obama put forward. so it's not even worth discussing what senator graham just said. >> i'm sure his opponent in south carolina will discuss it a whole lot. thank you, senator sherrod brown of ohio. still ahead, more on today's stunning developments in atlanta. we're back after this. [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ this is hal's heart. it's been broken. and put back together. this is also hal's heart. and his relief, knowing he's covered by blue cross blue shield. and this is our promise, with over 80 years of healthcare expertise: to be here for you now. and always.
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welcome back. on this day, the charges were announced against two atlanta police officers in the killing of rayshard brooks. some states and localities continue to respond to the outcry in the streets with changes and actions that match the times. and the level of outrage. but not donald trump. and not some of his allies, who seem more interested in discussing change than and continuing the ugly, tired strategy of demonizing the first black president, but not actually making change. just yesterday, trump lied about barack obama never dogs a thing -- doing a thing about addressing police violence. >> president obama and vice president biden never even tried to fix this during their eight-year period. the reason they didn't try is because they had no idea how to do it. and it is a complex situation.
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this is a big, big step, a step that hasn't been taken before. >> that sounds exactly like lindsey graham. "the washington post" fact checker deemed that to be false. according to "the post," when the trump administration came in, they rolled back the measures the obama administration put into place. for more, i'm joined by britney cunningham, former fellow at the harvard institute of politics, an appointed member of the ferguson commission and member of president obama's task force on 21st century policing. so both lindsey graham and donald trump are pretending there was never anything put in place to do police reform. i want to put up some of these reforms while you talk about what the commission entailed and what was pushed for in that commission. >> joy, i'm sorry to even have to spend your time like this. there are better things to talk
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about than a president who continues to lie all because he is cowering in the shadow of a competent black man and he has no intention of actually running the country that he swore to protect according to the constitution. look, i was a part of that commission. we traveled all around the country, and we heard from activists, community leaders and organizers and yes, law enforcement, families, students, parents about precisely what it was to see the change in their communities about policing. i sat in the oval office on december 1, 2014. and donald trump knows that we sat in the office having the conversation with president obama about what we were seeing on the streets of ferguson and baltimore and more, because we tweeted about it on that very day. and joy, there is always a tweet. like you said, if the obama administration did not take any steps to actually eradicate police violence in this country and stop police brutality all across the nation, then there would have been nothing for
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donald trump to undo. but in 2017, he undid the obama era rule that restricted the amount of military equipment that was being given to local police departments, and we know that jefferson sessions limited the descent decrees the obama administration used so much to make sure cities harming black people through their police department were held accountable and those patterns and practices were investigated. this was never about the truth. this is always about him passing the buck. there's clearly still more work to do, but we could get a lot more of it done if he would start to take responsibility for the job that he has. >> yeah. jefferson sessions, named for two confederate generals. i want to put up these. there was a task force on policing. in addition, as you mentioned, banning the military selling
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surplus equipment to the police. 25 investigations into police misconduct. trump has opened up one. and there have these collaborative reforms that affect police departments and made recommendations for change. one of the things i want to focus on is that fourth one, the 14 court-ordered consent decrees to overhaul police departments. trump has signed two, but he's walked back those consent decrees. how important is it that police departments get investigated as part of the reform? >> i want to be really clear here. we're talking about measures of accountability. and ultimately what we are hearing from the ground and from the grassroots is that people want more than just accountability. they want justice. we've even heard that from obama administration officials and mr. obama himself, that what may have applied in 2015 even coming
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out of that task force report that i helped work on, may not apply in 2020, because there's more to be done. we heard from that department of justice in the obama era that they wanted to see after they were done a lowering of the standard that it would take to actually prosecute police officers at the federal level for violating civil rights. so these consent decrees are important, but they stand on the side of accountability. we can't even seem to get that out of the trump administration. we know that there are cities across this country from ferguson to baltimore, that have a pattern and practice of engaging in this way. if they can't hold police departments accountable across the country, there's no incentive for those police departments to change. >> how amazing is that local district attorneys are acting more like the tooernattorney ge than the attorney general of the united states. britney, thank you very much. still ahead, self-states are
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the number of hospitalizations, lowest level since we started, 17 deaths in the state of new york. 17. lowest number since we started. we did about 60,000 tests yesterday. the number who tested positive, less than 1%. that is the lowest percentage of positive that we have had since we have started. >> welcome back. well, that was new york governor andrew cuomo athounsing that new york city, once the eni center is on its track of the next
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phase of reopening. but a number of other states are facing spikes. yesterday, six states saw their largest one-day increase in new cases since the pandemic began. in the nation's top infectious disease expert dr. anthony fauci is responding to vice president pence's claim that fear of a second wave are overblown. in an interview, fauci said, i don't want to talk about a second wave right now because we haven't gotten out of the first wave. he voiced his concerns with the rally in oklahoma this weekend, and he's not alone. tulsa republican mayor is also voicing his concerns, and that is coming up next. poster. i didn't have time to get my beard routine in this morning, so... what beard routine? ah. well, the key is maple nectar. gives it that sheen. is there something wrong with my screen? -mnh-mnh. -jamie, what are talking about? you're right, alan. we should be talking about bundling home and auto with progressive, not this luscious mane of mine. [ laughs ]
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welcome back. donald trump will be reclaiming the precious, and holding his first campaign rally in months this weekend in tulsa, oklahoma. notably no longer on juneteenth because they backed down. but health experts are voicing concern to such a large gathering for such a high risk of spreading the virus. the daily beast spoke with dr. fauci, writing he didn't sugarcoat his anxiety about his boss, president donald trump, moving forward with plans to hold large-scale events, including in cities with new or recurring outbreaks, such as tulsa, oklahoma and phoenix, arizona. asked if he would personally attend, fauci said no, i'm in a high-risk category.
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personally, i would not. of course not. tulsa's republican mayor also voicing his concerns of the president's plans. i'm not positive everything is safe. any rational person looking at any large grouping of people would have concerns about this weekend. for more, i'm joined by dr. matt heinz, internist with tucson medical center in arizona. i'll just start by asking you, dr. heinz, would you personally attend an event such as the ones planned in arizona and in oklahoma? >> well, thank you for having me. definitely not. >> and what are the risks entailed? explain to us what the risks are. we know that's no social distancing, trump is anti-mask. is it the concentration of bodies that makes it risky, or is it the masks or is it cumulative? >> so, it's actually a
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combination of things. but any time you have a lot of people getting in close proximity of the virus, which is conveyed by water vapor. we exhale water vapor every time we breathe in and out, and that transmits the virus from person to person. and if you're within six feet, you're breathing in a little bit of the water vapor that person next to you is exhaling. so you have 20, 25 people exhaling their water vapor basically into you. you have a his changh chance of getting coronavirus. and there's not great circulation in a lot of these big buildings, especially with all the people crammed in there. so it's an ideal situation if you're the coronavirus. >> and so arizona we know where you are, obviously, icu beds in use is at 83%, the capacity 83%, and it's the highest number for arizona since the pandemic began. so obviously there's a lot of
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challenges that we're seeing in arizona right now. the mayor of tucson tweeted out that he will begin requiring masks to be worn in public, which it's shocking that she hasn't done that up to now. does it surprise you that this far into a pandemic of this magnitude, of this death count, that only now is the mayor of a major city starting to require masks in public? >> so arizona is an interesting place, and our governor reopened the state may 15th and 21 days later we have record levels of cases every single day, and he still says it has nothing to do with it. he also, in his emergency declaration, basically said to every political subdivision, every county and every municipality, including tucson, and you all can't do anything other than what i say.
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so in his declaration, he pree..ed the cities and counties from doing anything and taking anything, you know, take any control whatsoever. so i'm glad that the mayor is doing this,do. >> we have seen not only is the icu bed capacity being gobbled up, looking at the curve, it shows a sharp rise in new cases. this comes after memorial day weekend. yet, you have donald trump pushing republican officials to re-open faster. is it weird for you that it looks like we're emerging into a pandemic? we're just being in a state where trump as influence, in a sense makes you more at risk. it feels like we're getting one. >> it really shouldn't be, but you are absolutely right. the numbers don't lie. the science facts, they are fairly meaningful and the virus is doing exactly what it is programmed to by nature.
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it makes more of itself and it uses us to do that. if people aren't wearing masks, if they aren't taking it seriously, staying home and socially distancing, we will see that number go up and up and up. it is time for the state of arizona to lock it down, require masks everywhere, not just in tucson but every part of the state and do it now. >> i think of viruses as being like the alien in the movie "alie "aliens" and all the se kwuquel. think if you think of it like that. and what do the humans do? they hide and stay away from it. it seems like it would be pretty simple. is there a way of doing the messaging on this pandemic that can get around the partisan ship that is made, you know, a lot of trump followers say, i refuse to wear a mask.
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i refuse to stay indoors? >> i think so. when people understand that these masks, they don't protect you. they don't protect the wearer. you put this on, it's a patriotic gesture. it is a gesture for your neighbors, for your community, for your family. you wear a mask because it prevents 90% or more from getting out and about. all of us need to put masks on so we massively decrease the ability of this virus to get around. doing that saves lives. not doing that and knowing that it will not save lives, that's a problem. these are -- you're harming people in your community, and we can't have that. so we know what we need to do. >> yeah. we already know the information. people just need to accept it and do it. thank you so much for your time. really appreciate you being here. and up next on this tragic anniversary, the date of the tragic anniversary, a tale of fast food and policing.
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i'm too nervous to take a meal from mcdonald's because i can't see it being made. i don't know what's going on with people nowadays, but please just give us a break. >> here is a tale of fast food and policing. that video of a weepy police officer crying in frustration
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over not receiving the correct breakfast order at a mcdonald's drive through went viral today. with law enforcement boosters saying it showed how unappreciated and frightened police officers feel today. but needless to say, there are worse things that can happen in a fast food parking lot than not getting your egg mcmuffin like falling aslope in your car while black and become shot by police because you ran after a 46 interrogation as happened to rayshard brooks. like the eerie stills of that former officer killing george floyd, this image shown at the press conference today by fulton county district attorney paul howard showing the officer who shot mr. brooks kick his body while he lay dying on the ground after reportedly uttering, i got him, while a second officer stood on the dying man will live
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in infamy in the story of american policing. it is the visual proof of what black people have been crying out is the dehumanizing attitude toward our lives and to our bodies that too many officers walk around with while armed with a gun and license to kill. officer lady, excuse us if we find it hard to view your faulty breakfast as a crisis. if you are that easily freaked out, maybe you shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun. meanwhile, the fear our officer karen was articulating seems related to an ugly accusation made by a police union this week that fast food workers at a shake shack location actually poisoned a group of officers with bleach, which turned out to be untrue. but that dangerous liable on low-paid workers shows you what too often we are dealing with when it comes to law enforcement, the rush to judgment that low wage people
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and non-white people are probably criminals. meanwhile, today is the five-year anniversary of the massacre of nine black pari parishners, a case of how we were also reminded how differently interactions can go down with law enforcement if you are white. while rayshard brooks was executed for daring to run away after being detained for no reason for nearly an hour and for taking a taser to free himself from officers, he clearly had every reason to fear. dillon who again had already gun massacred nine people in charleston, he was not just detained peacefully. he was fed a nice burger king lunch by the arresting officers. which makes what south carolina senator tim scott said today even after acknowledging the
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grim milestone today announcing whatever it was because that's not reform, so ahistoric and so strange. >> i don't know how to tell people that the nation is not racist. i'll try again. we are not a racist country. that's our show for tonight. "all in" with chris hayes is up next. tonight on "all in," murder charges now filed against the police officer who kale e kille rayshard brooks. then covid surging in alabama, in texas, in arizona and in oklahoma where thousands of trump supporters are getting ready for the big rally this weekend. and john bolton refusing to testify even though he knew trump was asked biden to help him

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