around my home, and i'm not going to take those down. so she's right there in my bedroom with me at all times.he >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. gathering crowd, trump supporters are lining up. it's being met. parades and rallies across the country.

beyonce's late-night surprise, a gift really and the president's message on juneteenth, no less. why he refused to say those three words. black lives matter. across the country, businesses springing back to life. could the cost be too high? the latest numbers, next. good morning to you. it is saturday, june 20th, first day of summer. i'm murphy riser. >> is it the first day of summer already? >> yes. >> the longest day of the year. in the longest year of the year, of our lifetimes. let's begin with breaking news. an extraordinary standoff overnight between the justice department and one of the nation's top districts. attorney general william barr announcing jeffrey berman, u.s. attorney in manhattan, overseeing key probes, by the way, into trump's allies, steps down only for berman to push back hours later saying he has no plans to resign.

>> absolutely fascinating. josh is at the white house, following this story. the justice department and the southern district here in new york. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, kendis. another friday night firing from the trump administration this time it's in the clear it's going to work with u.s. attorney jeffrey berman refusing to resign in the face of pressure from attorney general barr. we can't emphasize enough how central thiss attorney has been into the investigations and into president trump and people around him, including his former personal attorney, michael cohen, who got a prison sentence as a result from this u.s. attorney. his other personal attorney, rudy juligiuliani also under investigation by this office. this played out over the last 12 hours or so, kendis, in a stunning chain of events. first from a statement from attorney general barr saying, in part, i am pleased to announce that president trump intends to nominate jay clayton, currently

the chairman of the securities and exchange commission, to serve as the next u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. i think jeffrey berman was stepping down after 2 1/2 years of u.s. service as attorney for the southern district. and then only hours later, jeffrey berman saying, stepping down? not me. saying he had learned about that from the press release and adding in his own statement, i have not resigned and have no intention of resigning my position to which i was appointed. what happens next is an open question as we head into this weekend but we know there's intense interest from lawmakers, including the house judiciary committee, who has invited berman to appear on the hill as early as this week. kendis? >> we expect to see the president, josh, at some point today. do you have a sense, no idea whether he will stop at the cameras but i believe he's

leaving for oklahoma later this afternoon? >> that's right. we may see him as he departs the white house to get on marine one to head to that rally in tulsa. if not, we could hear a whole lot from the president, potentially, about this and other topics in his rally tonight, being watched very closely amid protests about social distancing. >> many people were looking forward to that rally to hear what the president would say. this, adding fuel to it. josh lederman for us, with breaking news for us. thanks. legal analyst danny cevallos. dan danny, i want to bring up a tweet from berman's predecessor. he was fired after refusing to resign and he tweeted why does a president get rid of his own hand-picked u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york on a friday night less than five months before the election? pretty good question.

any insight on that? >> he has a very good piece of insight there, and the concern appears to be that maybe the trump administration is worried that the southern district of new york, who has convicted folks like michael cohen, very close to the president, they may have an ongoing investigation that could unearth, reveal even more damaging information in the months leading up to the election. and that's just sort of reading the tea leaves of his tweet, but i think it's pretty interesting insight. >> danny, saturday night massacre is trending right now in the u.s. on twitter. you can understand why. a lot of people are saying this is the worst overnight for a justice department since the saturday night massacre during the nixon years. put this in perspective. >> the saturday night massacre during the nixon era involved the resigning and firing of several folk notice justice department, highest level folks.

you have the leader of the southern district of new york, u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york who is being fired but refusing to step down, different from the original saturday night massacre that included voluntary resignations because they refused to follow orders of the white house. the court that appointed him, it says he shall serve until the president appoints and the senate confirms somebody new. so he at least has a thread to pull on to stick around until that actually happens. and that's his argument that he can't just be summarily fired. the president has to appoint and the senate has to confirm his successor. it's an interesting argument. if litigated, it could take a while. >> danny, really quickly, all of this is happening supposedly because the investigations may be getting closer to the administration, the trump family perhaps. what do we know? >> well, we don't know what's going on with the investigations

in the southern district of new york. if you look at all the folks that have been indicted over the last year, or maybe even a little beyond, then the southern district of new york has a lot of very -- they usually get a lot of very economic-type investigations. this is perfect, office perfectly situated to handle investigations into the trump empire and the trump administration. so, if there is wrongdoing, anyone in the trump administration has reason to be concerned. >> this isn't the first time we've seen somebody in the administration or appointed who found out they were fired because of a press release or because of twitter. kind of makes you wonder if some of this playing out in the media could be avoided with a conversation prior to releasing some of that. >> what is this. >> you're exactly right. >> danny cevallos, thank you. >> where have you been the last three years? >> we'll talk to you about supreme court decisions later in the show. tens of thousands of people

took to the streets to march juneteenth, end of slavery in america, a day celebrated by african-americans, but this year took on heightened significance as more americans rallied around the african-american community because of police brutality and systemic racism. >> crowds in new york city chanted late into the evening yesterday. about 6,000 demonstrators crossed the brooklyn bridge in manhattan. you're looking at them right now. shutting down traffic to draw attention to the cause. >> in cincinnati, ohio, outside city hall, the geneteenth flag was hoisted there for the very first time. it represents freedom, a new beginning and new horizon for freed slaves. the colors are a reminder ta slaves and their descendents were and are americans.

the trump's campaign rally later tonight, observances lasted well into the night. hours earlier, crowds gathered for the i too am america juneteenth rally. they heard from the city of a man killed there. >> even when we're unsure of the method vacillating between peace and burn this mother down but always thinking, always praying, always choosing love. >> that's why we can't turn around, cause it's in our blood. it's in our jeans that we don't give our seats up no more. we are not slaves no more. >> meantime, the pressure to remove monuments for the confederacy continued overnight. this was the scene in raleigh,

north carolina. >> cheers there. and police later showed up. they dragged into the back of a golf cart. president trump is holding his first 2020 campaign later today in tulsa. morgan radford is there. >> reporter: >> morgan, good morning to you. several people have been lining up for several days and people are concerned about a spike in cases there around the state. what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right, kendis. you can already see people here not just lining up, but camping out. they've been here for days. ahead of the president's rally, 7:00 p.m., standing just in front of the bok center here in

tulsa. police have started closing off certain nearby streets as early as thursday. originally, there was also a curfew planned beginning thursday, but the president tweeted he called the mayor of tulsa personally and intervened and shortly thereafter, that curfew was reversed and lifted. meanwhile, you see people like this who are here, supporting. it holds about 19,000 people. there were people in the overflow section. the reality is that not everyone in tulsa is supportive of the president's visit. we spent time in greenwood yesterday, a historically black district of town, also the site of the 1920 race massacre. a lot of business owners there said they felt like the president's visit and specifically his timing was disrespectful. take a listen. >> it's a slap in the face to, you know, the black community. the history of what happened back in 1921, the race massacre. here, you're on holy ground.

a lot of people died. men, women, children burned. for the president, his staff or whoever to plan or schedule a rally on a day that we celebrate freedom during the 99th year of the mass tacre, it's a disgrace >> reporter: the state has seen a spike in coronavirus cases. they stand right now in oklahoma. the reality is that people are worried about that speak, continuing the trump campaign and said they will pass out masks at the entrance but aren't requiring anyone to wear them. kend kendis, lindsay? >> morgan radford, thank you.

he worked on the presidential campaigns of barack obama, hillary clinton and john delaney. >> thank you for joining us. president trump issued a warning, saying any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or low lives who are going to oklahoma, please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in new york, seattle or minneapolis. it will be a much different scene. he told axios he expects a wild evening. people have a right to protest. his campaign manager tried to walk that back yesterday on msnbc. but words matter. he said protesters. >> words do matter. president trump spends time hang ing out with authoritative dictators and, you know, wants to be this prudent-type character. we live in the united states. the whole idea is based off the idea of protesting from the boston tea party all the way through the civil rights we protest f president trump doesn't like to protest, he

doesn't support protesters, like he usually says to us, he can leave the country and go somewhere else. >> you worked on several presidential campaigns, including barack obama. they all did their certain sort of rallies, but this situation that is being set up tonight, it really is unchartered territory, isn't it? >> it's a tinder box. we have issues all over the country with race relations and the president just continues to incite this. and now to choose a place like tulsa, oklahoma, on the 99th anniversary of the greenwood massacre, i mean, it's almost nothing short of a white supremacist rally. he's literally trying to incite violence by doing this. it's disgusting, dangerous and it's time for republicans and his party to call him out and stop this. what he's doing is purposely antagonizing people. >> at the heart of these protests and demonstrations is the idea of police reform. house democrats have a version

of their bill, senate republicans have another. the goal is the same but they have different ways of doing it. do you think that the two sides can come together? we're looking at a graphic of some of the differences. do you think the two sides can come together on a compromise, particularly a bill that will have teeth, that will satisfy people who are out there, protesting? >> i hope so, but the problem is republicans are in the pocket of trump. and so when he talks about wanting to ban choke holds but only if police feel threatened, that's not a realistic scenario. we need a bill that has qualified immunity, we need a bill that permanently ends choke holds, that makes african-americans feel safe to be african-american. i hope republicans and democrats can come together and solve this but i'm not feeling very hopeful. >> meantime, lately i've noticed you started a little bit of a -- not trouble, but it's a good movement. >> good trouble. >> you started a change campaign to try to change the name of the

edmund pettus bridge there in selma, alabama, and rename it after john lewis. it's picked up traction. >> edmund movement. >> lewis was a racist and he-- should have someone who's a member of this country who has made great contributions, not a traitor, not a racist, and i think an individual like john lewis would be the perfect person to rename the bridge. >> what's the alabama governor saying? >> he's not replied yet. i've september a couple of notes. we got 122,000 plus signatures, but we're going to demand she answer us because this isn't going to go away. >> no doubt. thank you. appreciate it. >> take care. we're going to move on right now, the landmark rulings at the

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trauma. so many of our fellow americans are rising to the occasion. their words serving as a crucial remind never this time of stress and catastrophe, we really are all in this together. a tide shift? experts are watching how the supreme court is evolving. on monday the high court said federal law forbids discrimination. >> and on monday they ruled on daca. joining us again is danny cevallos, our legal analyst. thank you. let's start with the daca situation. break down what the ruling means for the dreamers.

>> folks should understand the president can end daca. the supreme court said it and the parties didn't dispute that fact. he just has to say the right words when he does it. remember, daca was not an act of congress. it was just a memorandum issued by the prior administration, and the next administration can always unmember ran dem the last member ran dem, and that's exactly what they tried to do here. the daca member ran dem was a nonenforcement of policy law and an additional program for the folks to stay in the country. the trump administration can resubmit it, but what the supreme court only held is they just didn't follow the proper procedures in doing it this time around, so this battle is not over. >> on that, the president tweeted yesterday we will be submitting papers shortly to proper properly fulfill the supreme court's ruling and request.

how do we see this as a victory if clearly it's not over? >> because the reality is procedure will take a long time. if president trump submits his, quote, enhanced documentation, it will still be litigated, and that will take several months, and practically and politically, that brings us to the doorstep of the november election. while legally you can say this decision doesn't mean a whole lot, politically it may mean everything. >> let's talk about the decision on lgbtq protections at work. a lot of people are saying this is a significant ruling because it has roberts and gorsuch who ruled with the liberals there. i look at it and go how did we get three people in the minority -- that graphic obviously is wrong -- but how did we get three people who voted against this? >> because when you use

texturalism, the statute says the word sex. you can't discriminate based on sex. the textural approach would be what's the definition of sex, especially what was given in mind when it was enacted. and on the conservative side, sex means biological sex at birth. that's what the original framers intended. that's why it's so surprising that justice gorsuch came down on the other side. he took a different texturalistic approach. when you look at sex and discriminate based on gender identity, you are necessarily discriminating based on sex, which greatly expands as you can imagine the definition of the word sex in employment discrimination, not just for this particular statute, but across the board legally. >> so across the board, what are the other implications of this?

there are a lot of people who are looking to get the transgender ban of troops serving in the military overturned. does this pave the way for that? >> i wouldn't say it paves the way. it possibly create as trail. courts have held specifically that the specifics of title 7 don't include armed forces. any law that involves discrimination based on, quote, sex, probably the last frontier will be the armed forces where the courts have said that title 7 just doesn't apply, at least yet. >> danny, really quickly here, because there are many liberals that said, yes, they want some case this week, but it's setting up for big surprises inherent at the end coming up. >> that's right. this is the kind of case that ultimately an act of congress can overturn if they wanted to, and it's the same thing with

daca. these are all things that congress, if they saw fit, could fix or address. >> with texas coming up, we have an abortion decision as well? >> oh, yes, yes. exactly. now with justice gore sichl taking a rather unexpected texturalist position, folks on both sides are wondering where will the court come down and maybe they won't come down on the traditional sides everybody expect. that's what makes the supreme court docket very exciting. >> very interesting. thank you so much. spiking cases, the world health organization is warning as global numbers reach a new record. >> and the businesses now closing again to try to stop the spread. today, the official start of summer. across the country, covid closures are sparking stiff competition for at-home swimming pools. companies reporting booming sales. many box stores selling out. some folks are just making them

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will wear a mask. here's the facts on the covid pandemic sweeping the world. a new warning. the virus is still spreading and doing so rapidly. this as the world's health organization records a biggest single day total, adding 150,000 cases. the director general says nearly half of those are right here in the americas. >> the pandemic is accelerating. the world is in a new and dangerous phase. many people are understandably fed up with being at home. countries are understandably eager to open up economist and the virus is still spreading fast. >> here in the u.s. 14 states have seen their cases falling while 21 are seeing spikes of at least 25%. one of those, florida, set another daily high with more than 3,000 new cases yesterday.

to texas, the state's two six flags amusement parks reopened as the number of covid cases continue to rise. the parks are limited to 50% capacity and will open to the general public on monday. cruises in the u.s. will not resume until at least mid-september. some are voluntarily suspending operations until september 15. the cruise trade group says this new extension allows more time to figure out how to safely resume operations. joining us right now is the director of prevention of infection. good to see youlet cases are surming in 21 states including north carolina, south carolina, florida, and texas. is this part of the first wave, frankly. >> yeah. you know, we flattened the curve and saw some plateauing of

cases, but now as people are mixing and mingling more as we're going out in society, we are seeing in many areas an uptick in cases. in some areas, those increases are sharper than others for sure. >> and new york city where our msnbc world headquarters are, we're finally starting to open up againf up again. we're in phase 1. phase 2 soon. haircuts finally. in-store shopping. it feels like another wave is inevitable once we start opening back up. is that your opinion as well? >> i mean certainly we expect to see increased cases as reopening occurs. i think there are ways to make sure that those increasing cases aren't overwhelming and it really comes back to those basic measures, masking in public and around groups and minimizing those. it's going continue to be important for a long time to

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heard across the sky. fireworks. >> and that's mild. new york city has had more than 1,700 fire worworks complaints. several cities, los angeles, myrtle beach. we've seen fire fights, kids fighting with fireworks, some complaining they're illegal fireworks. cori coffin joins us. i know you've heard all over the city and elsewhere. what's going on with this. >> reporter: it seems to be the new soundtrack to the city, guys, after a really intense several months. of course, when it comes to fireworks for people who live in this country, all across the board, it's manhattan, brooklyn where we are. it's the bronx, even as far as new jersey, philly, and these other cities, major cities. the problem, guys, isn't just

that people are setting them off at all hours of the night and residents are kept up but also that they're taking to the streets and they're pointing them at one another like fire fights and one fireworks fights. one was caught in brooklyn. take a look. all right. so this has been the scene of the last several nights in brooklyn. several videos like this are popping up on social, online, and people here, other than the folks who are upset by it and do not want it, other residents who are part of it or at least know about it say it's just a form of expression not for this time of year, but also for this tense

time in new york in general and this historic time in new york in general, but what is seen as blowing off steam for some, celebrating for others, is also seen as problematic. here's why. this extra wrinkle of the fact that all of this is illegal could bring out more police. so you have the folks popping off these fireworks in defiance of the police and others who are warning this could actually bring them out more in force and lead to more violent incidents. of course, those numbers we talked about this time last year, about 21 complaints, and now up to 1,723 complaints, a massive spike. since it is all illegal in the city, there are task forces being created in new jersey. jersey city has created a task fofrms and philly doing the same now, guys. of course, back here in new york mayor bill de blasio said the actual legal fireworks show july 4th will go off close to where we are at the brooklyn bridge,

guys. >> nbc's cori coffin. definitely a safety issue. for those who can't sleep, two words, sound machine. >> no. stop it. cut it out. not just new york, new jersey. l.a.s fahad it in major cities. it's all funny until someone loses an eye. back to juneteenth, a 93 yrmd marking the day with a 2 1/2 mile march. opal lee, walking, symbolizing the 2 1/2 years it took for texas slaves to learn they were, indeed, free after the emancipation proclamation was signed. joining us now, clay cain. good morning to you. on one hand we've seen a lot more attention on celebrating the day, but the other hand is so many people didn't know about

it. >> it's true. a lot of folks didn't know about it because unfortunately we don't teach the right things in our history. they oftentimes say, you know, in our education system, we're taught more propaganda than history, but i'm really happy folks are beginning to understand juneteenth now. i think it's crucial that we get that. over 250,000 people, american citizens really in texas were enslaved for an extra two years and they weren't told this until june 19th, 1865. so it's some crucial history, and i'm all for it being a federal holiday, because its adds more education to the history. >> it is a crucial history and a lot of people did not know about it. i was on your radio show yesterday. a lot of the black folks were taking part in what was really, by the way, a rip-off, did not know about the origins of juneteenth. clay won the contest. he had the questions and the answers.

the president is saying he's made juneteenth famous. what do you make of that? this president saying he made it famous. >> listen. trump takes credit for the unemployment rate given to him by obama. he takes credit for everything except what he's done wrong. it's the optics he searches for and he continues to fail, and i've got say i'm just heartbroke on the see this rally in tulsa, oklahoma. i mean this man just seems like it's obvious he cares more about his standup comedian rallies than his american people. >> he also lobbed a message to london agitators. what do you say to people who want to exercise their constitutional right? >> i feel like he wants an

authoritarian government. when you try to control people's rights to protest, that's a fundamental value of america. for him to say that -- even a few weeks ago, when the looting starts, the shooting starts, this man, it's scarey i just say right now we're a few months away from an election. we're in imminent danger. if you're outraged by what you're seeing, please be sure you're registered to vote and let your voice be heard in november. >> a lot of people are outraged by what they're hearing or not hearing from the vice president in a philadelphia tv interview. asked to say three simple words, black lives matter, here's what he had to say. >> so why won't you say those words? >> i don't accept the fact, brian, that there's a segment of society that disagrees in the preciousness and importance of every human life. >> we do not have enough time to continue to play the extended interview, but he said a lot of words, but black lives matter

were not among them. >> it wasn't. he was insist tent upon saying all lives matter. basically what you're saying is if george floyd would have been white, there would have been a different outcome. i have to say this, too, to the faith leaders who sat down with mike pence, the black faith leaders, we're a few months away from an election. there's no reason in my opinion to sit down with this administration, an administration that has shown through rhetoric, policy, does not care about black communities. this is somebody, mike pence, who was an enaber of trump. he's an insidious part of the trump admin strachlgts at this point we have to say no and be focused in november, not sitting down with an administration who won't be with the ncaap and the black caucus. we have to restrategize who we invest our time. in mike pence is somebody who

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it is not just aunt jemima, but uncle ben's and using the description of uncle. instead of calling black people mister. why is it taking so long for these brands to recognize? >> reporter: good morning, kendis. a lot of people are asking that. every day consumers and experts saying what took so long for the companies to do the right thing? these are all iconic brands. these companies have been criticized for decades for importa important pet waiting stereotypes. aunt jemima. owned by pepsico. they did make changes to the brand. the mamie scarf she used on her head. they got rid of that a few years back. the outcry for change has been so loud and widespread. it could not be denied. you are right. there are other brands within

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