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since the event was announced it has been marred by controversy. the rally will be one of the largest indoor gatherings in the country since the covid-19 pandemic began. the cdc guidelines classified this kind of event where people are traveling from all over as high risk. however, masks will not be required tonight and no social distancing measures will be in place. the rally was originally scheduled for yesterday juneteenth, which commemorates the end of slavery in the united states. the date was moved to today. but the location was also controversial. this bok center is less than a mile away from the city's greenwood historic district. it was once known as black wall street before it was destroyed in 1921 by a white mob in one of the worst cases of racial violence in american history. priscilla thompson is in the greenwood section of tulsa today. priscilla, what are residents and business owners telling you about the president holding his rally there today?
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>> reporter: well, alicia, even with that change of the date from friday to saturday, folks are not too happy about this. they've called it insensitive, even disrespectful to think just yesterday people were out here gathering to celebrate the juneteenth holiday here at black wall street and now the president is going to be here and they're concerned about the divisive language that he may use in his speech tonight and what's more, people here tell me they would like to see him take a stand on some of these issues that we've seen happening, whether that is the killing of unarmed black people by police officers and just the current state of civil unrest in our country. take a listen to what one shop owner here told me. >> we really didn't want trump to be here in the first place because the city of tulsa is still grappling with its dark past. we're still trying to have some racial healing. we're searching for mass graves given the 1921 tulsa race massacre so his coming here and the type of rhetoric that he
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uses during the rallies isn't helping at all. >> reporter: alicia, we know the governor had offered to give president trump a tour of the greenwood area but he got a lot of pushback from black leadership so we expect that mike pence will be here to visit with leaders, but he won't be coming to greenwood per the governor, alicia. >> all right. priscilla, thank you so much. juneteenth celebrations continue this weekend in washington, d.c. today a protest has gathered for a march across the city to honor the black community and call for an end to systemic racism. nbc's amanda golden is there. what are the goals the organizers of this event hope to accomplish with the march today? >> reporter: alicia, the goals for this peaceful protest have really shifted over the course of the last four weeks of demonstrations we've seen in washington, d.c. you can see behind me the protesters that have gathered have culminated at the black
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lives matter plaza in front of the white house. they started off the day at mt. vernon square, marched here peacefully and chanting and they're going to continue on their way to the freedom plaza a few blocks away afterwards. the organizers are members of a group called the black onyx project. the movement is seeking to dismantle systemic racism and oppression with continued actions and movement. i spoke with the organizers of this movement who just told me flat out they're not interested in performance activism. while they're encouraged by foes continuing to come out and participate, they want to see systemic changes made to recognize black culture, black identity especially here in d.c., so take a listen to what they told me about the motions they're taking today. >> we want to celebrate but also want to make sure that our voices are heard and we are constantly continuing the conversation of injustice. i think we've just been like -- the fire has just been ignited
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in terms of like mobilizing and organizing and trying to get ourselves on one page in one accord. >> our slogan, this means long live black so we are, you know, just constantly building different stepping stones to help it move forward. >> as you heard from them, they're trying to see this continue on. not just from demonstrations today but some of the systemic changes they want to see do include similar things we've been hearing over the course of the last few weeks whether defunding police departments, recognize be juneteenth as a federal holiday and note we have seen some pushes and bipartisan legislation forming on the hill now, in addition to that, seeking represent operations for those who had been enslaved in america previously. so as we continue to monitor the situation, they're hearing from various speakers, artist, activists as they've continued their march onwards throughout the day. alicia. >> all right. amanda, thank you so much. in richmond, virginia, crowds are coming together today
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for a juneteenth rally for justice. it comes as several reforms have taken place in the city this week. on tuesday, richmond's police chief resigned. and the city started the process to remove confederate statues and memorials. nbc's deepa shivaram is there. deepa, what are protesters hoping will happen next? >> reporter: alicia, that's a good point to start with. i think a lot of what we've seen in the last couple case or weeks are symbolic steps forward, the statues are starting to come down. juneteenth governor northam trying to make night a state holiday but spokes are here for a specific reason and touches on what amanda said in d.c. as well this, is about systemic change, about what the plan is moving forward because, you know, these protests, we're almost a month state and folks here are telling me what they want to see is motion and deep the momentum going with a plan and intent for
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specific actions, police reform, educational reform, the woman speaking now behind me is talking about not having enough black students in ap classes in public school, for example, so there are a lot of other steps that come along with this process. i spoke with the man named fred scott who helped organize the event today. listen to what he told me about what some of the forward-moving action looks like from here on out. >> so we put this together as a step to move forward and to present beyond the protest what do we do next? the three main parts for us is we do believe that black lives matter, black opportunities in economics matters and most of all black minds matter. >> reporter: so you heard mr. scott there talking about black minds, black economic opportunities and really why a lot of folks are here today. still people trickling in. senator tim kaine is set to speak as well at lieutenant governor justin fairfax and one of the organizers, fred, who i was speaking to was giving
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examples like, you know, banning chokeholds and that falls into the police reform category but talked about making sure that more of black history is included in public education, learning about things like the tulsa riots that we are talking about today especially with president trump in tulsa, oklahoma, parts of black history we didn't really learn about in school and a lot of the reforms and changes that protesters are rallying for here today, alicia. >> all right, deepa shivaram, thank you so much. in louisville, kentucky, a major development in the police shooting death of breonna taylor. one of the officers involved will be fired. nbc's gabe gutierrez has the latest. >> reporter: the fbi searched the apartment where breonna taylor was shot and killed 98 days after her death as louisville's mayor announced one of the three officers involved would be fired for misiones conduct. >> both the chief and i are precluded from talking about what brought us to this moment or even the timing of this decision. >> reporter: but in a letter to
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now former officer brett hankison, the police chief writes your actions displayed an extreme indifference to the value of human life when you wantonly and blindly fired ten rounds into the apartment of breonna taylor. i find your conduct a shock to the conscience. [ crowd chanting ] protests over the lack of charges in the case have stretched far beyond kentucky intensifying nationwide as of killing of george floyd in minneapolis. hankison was one of three officers who arrived to her apartment with a narcotics search warrant. police say the officers did announce themselves but taylor's family disputes that. her boyfriend said he thought it was a home invasion and opened fire with his licensed handgun injuring an officer. the officers returned fire killing taylor. just last week, louisville's council ban nod-knock warrants. now, the firing. >> this is another step but it's a small step and we still want the officers prosecuted.
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>> that was gabe gutierrez. the other two officers remain on administrative reassignment. none of the three have been criminally charged. no comment today from hankison's attorney or the police union. we have breaking news on the coronavirus pandemic. six members of president trump's tulsa advance team have tested positive for covid-19. trump campaign communications director said quarantine procedures were immediately implemented. straight ahead the latest in the legal standoff at the justice department. the attorney general wants a top federal prosecutor in manhattan removed from his post but he's not going quietly. plus, we've got new details about the trump administration's fight to keep his former national security adviser quiet. what a judge had to say about the release of john bolton's book next. and right now, is a time for action. so, for a second time we're giving members a credit on their auto insurance. because it's the right thing to do. we're also giving payment relief options to eligible members
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district of new york, geoffrey berman would step down. the news appeared to blindside bermman who relied in a statement, i learned in a press release from the attorney general tonight that i was stepping down as united states attorney. i have not resigned and have no intention of resigning my position. for more let's bring in josh letterman, nbc news national political reporter and catherine lucey, white house reporter for "the wall street journal." all right, josh, before we get to this, i do want to ask about the breaking news we had as we were coming on air, six members of president trump's advance team testing positive for covid-19. what more can you tell us? >> really alarming development here. these are members of what's known as the advance team which are campaign staffers that will go out ahead of an event like in a rally to a place like tulsa to do the logistics and organizing ahead of a presidential visit. and we're learning that the campaign as part of its protocol tests all of these people ahead of an event and six of them did
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come back positive. trump campaign spokesman timur tao saying no covid-19 positive staffers or anyone in immediate contact will be at today's rally or near attendees and elected officials. the trump campaign also emphasizing the fact that they will be handing out masks as well as hand sanitizer and other ppe supplies for people that want or need them at that rally but we know they're not requiring those to be used and as we know, mask that is nour pocket is not going to do you a whole lot of good so this is the latest reminder about health concerns heading into the rally. >> yeah, certainly underlines this pandemic is far from over. all right, let's go back to this doj story. what can you tell us about the time line of this announcement, especially given that it seemed to be a surprise to berman himself. >> it is not normal to fire a u.s. attorney at 9:00 p.m. on a friday into the, even less
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normal to put out a statement the u.s. attorney stepped down and have that statement u.s. attorney say, this is the first i've heard about it and i'm not going anywhere so a real standoff that has erupted here, unclear how this is going to play out or exactly why the trump administration wanted geoffrey berman to be out of the picture. >> right, let's get to that question of why. catherine, worth noting he prosecuted michael cohen and investigated his other lawyer, rudy giuliani. is there any indication that this firing is tied to that? >> well, i think it's important to note the things we do know as a backdrop for this going into what really was a sort of stunning late night move that some americans woke up to this news this morning. you know, we know that the president has expressed frustration with the southern district in the past and certainly mr. berman was engaged in these investigations of some of his allies and knowably
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including michael cohen who pleaded guilty as a result. and we know that the attorney general has, you know, reached out and has had some frustrations with intention about some of these investigations. but i think another thing that plays into this moment that's important to note is that this comes after several months of a pretty wide-ranging effort by the administration to turn over people in some key positions with the motivation of installing people that they've viewed as more loyal to the president's ageneral da. that's included as you know, alicia, removing or replacing the inspector general in some key locations recently and after the last inspector general change-up, one of the president's top aides told me that the president was concerned about what he saw as investigations that he viewed as overly aggressive and so that thinking, you know, certainly also could apply in this moment. >> josh, i want to go to another
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story. a judge this morning denied the trump administration's request for an injunction to block the release of john bolton's book. notably trump is hailing this as a win. how so? >> yeah, the trump administration calling this a win because the judge was pretty clear that he feels john bolton acted in the wrong here by going ahead with publishing this book despite not having gone through that prepublication review for classified information. on the other hand what the trump administration asked the court for was an injunction to block this from being published. the court refusing to grant that injunction but at the same time we're hearing from the white house just in the last hour or so, they plan to continue with the rest of their legal case against john bolton for breach of contract trying to force him to forfeit any assets that he would obtain, any profits as a result of selling this book to make sure he doesn't get to benefit from this even as he
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goes forward with publishing this information that the government says is classified and potentially even illegal. >> catherine, trump, pompeo, others have called bolton a liar. listen to this exchange from trump thursday. >> why do you keep hiring people that are wackos and liars? >> why do you keep hiring people that are wackos and liers? the president not addressing the question there. as you said, this follows a pattern over and over again that we have seen from this administration. has it lost them credibility? has it lost them credibility among voters? has it lost them vulnerability among members of the republican establishment? >> i think this is an administration that's seen historic levels of turnover and have seen it before. we've seen the president clashing with advisers, both, you know, when they were serving and after they've left. think about jeff sessions or rex
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tillerson or jim mattis, for example. just this week, mick mulvaney, the former acting chief of staff said that the president has struggled with hiring in this administration. so the president obviously did not come to this job from a government role, did not have a wide cadre of people to choose from when he came in and also new hires of advisers in his mind, gets frustrated when he feels like people aren't listening to him or, you know, are not taking his advice. i think also to go back to josh's point about the politics of the judge's ruling today on the book can't be ignored as well. obviously the trump administration wanted it to be entirely blocked and they're claiming victory in saying that the judge was very critical of bolton. but also the book is out, you know, the book is already -- excerpts widely printed. stories widely printed and so in an election year, when the president is staring down a very
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tough path to re-election, it's really trying to turn the page as we see with this rally today, you know, these stories about this book they'll continue in the coming days and these are not helpful narrative force him in this moment. >> josh, i mean two catherine's point. it is out there. the cat is out of the bag at this point. when you talk to members of the administration, is there a piece of in that they are most concerned about? >> well, i think what they're concerned about is the president's frustration with the fact that his former national security adviser is out there bashing him and making all of these allegations five months before the election and so there was a real desire from the white house to hit back at john bolton, to punish him so to speak for proceeding down this route and that's why we saw the administration try to get this injunction from a judge even though they knew full well that the horse had left the stable, that these copies of this book had been distributed. the press had them and one way
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or another what john bolton had to say was going to be in the public's eye. >> all right. josh and catherine, thank you. up next, the president's rally comes at a sensitive time for the country and a sensitive place for racial injustice. we'll go back to tulsa to talk about what his message will be, plus. covid-19 is on the rise in several states including texas. i'll talk to the mayor of san antonio about why he's so concerned about the virus in his city. how about no no
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we're continuing to follow breaking developments out of tulsa where we're learning that six members of president trump's advance team have tested positive for the coronavirus. the campaign says no covid positive staffers or anyone in immediate contact will be at today's rally or near attendees or elected officials. this comes amid a spike of confirmed cases in the state as thousands more pour into tulsa for the rally. health experts are warning against a gathering of this
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magnitude, especially when attendee also not be required to wear masks. for more on the optics and meaning surround tonight's rally i want to bring in adam sewer, a staff writer for "the atlantic." before we even get to the racial history of all of this and the significance of that, i do want to ask you about the breaking news that we have at this hour. six members of president trump's advance team testing positive for covid-19. that really underlines the health risks that everyone is being exposed to as they choose whether or not to go to this rally. >> right, i mean, i think obviously holding it outdoors might have been a better option if they were going to do it at all. but the reality is that we're still in the midst of the pandemic even though states are opening up. we're seeing a lot of increases in cases particularly throughout the south. you know, it's not that they're -- it simply seems as though the trump administration is taking as many risks as
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possible rather than attempting to minimize those risks by encouraging attendees to wear masks, for example, or by holding the rally outside. it's just more reckless than it needs to be even in the context of doing something like holding a rally which is obviously optional and something they didn't have to do. >> adam, there is, of course, the explicit message that the president will send tonight, whatever it is he would say. i would love to hear your thoughts on that but want them on the message sent by choosing to do it in tulsa. >> to be honest, i'm one of the people who -- i think that when the president wants to insult someone and he wants to rub it in he generally sticks to it. it seems to me as though the administration was unaware of the significance of this date and what -- and the tulsa massacre and juneteenth and what it would mean, that said, i hope that the president and his advisers are acknowledging the importance of this date and try to avoid fanning the flames as
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the president seems to enjoy doing as much as possible. >> right, well, speaking of fanning the flames, trump tweeted a warning to protesters who may come to oklahoma to disrupt his rally tweeting, any protesters, anarchist, agitators, looters or lowlives who are going to oklahoma, please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in new york, seattle or minneapolis. it will be a much different scene. i wonder what you make of that tweet. >> well, that is an implicit threat of violence against people who are exercising their first amendment rights and notice he conflates protesting a first amendment protected free right to speech with those with property crimes saying they'll be treated even worse than the way we saw protesters being treated by police previously. i think it's very clear that the president thrives off of the sense that he is being victimized by external powers. i think he wants to draw some
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kind of protest and hopes that protest descends into chaos so i think if anybody does protest the president's rally today they should be certain to exercise as much discipline as possible although they can't control what the police or what anybody else might do. >> it's very clear the motivation for this is to send a message, right, that america is back open, that in his opinion this entire thing is over, and it is a way to amp up his base, right? this is not about persuasion, this is about turnout going into november and yet the voters who are persuadable are going to be watching this, right? they are going to be processing what's going down. what is the message that's being sent to them as he takes the stage tonight? >> i mean, you know, honestly i'm not sure because oklahoma is not a state that the president is in danger of losing in november. this is a place that is already converted to his message. i think that in itself says that
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what this rally is about is less about persuading or converting the critics and supporters than it is having the kind of experience that the president enjoys having with his supporters, these rallies are kind of emotional rituals for him where he gets the sort of adoration and praise that he needs from his supporters and his supporters get what they need out of watching him run down the line of all his enemies and attack them and destroy them rhetorically so i think it's not clear to me this is a campaign event as much as sort of a kind of emotional reassurance from the president that the people that he considers his base still love him as much as he wants them to. >> adam, so easy to look at all of this through the lens of november, though perhaps vawhat this moment will mean 10, 20 years from now and look back on it and have a sense it was a
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pivotal moment or whether this just becomes a larger part of the trump narrative. >> well, look, i think that, you know, the president and his administration and the way he's run his administration is certainly part of the backlash that we've seen. we've seen over the past few weeks thousands and thousands of americans protesting against police brutality and discrimination and that in itself is a kind of -- is an example of how many americans, particularly americans on the left have internalized anti-racism as a part of their identity and partially a reaction to the disproportionate impact of the covid-19 impact and economic crisis and policing misconduct but it's also in part a reaction to the president who after all has made racial division a central part of his campaign rhetoric personality and politics. >> all right. adam serwer, thank you so much. texas is just one of the states seeing a spike in coronavirus cases this week.
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the state broke a daily record with more than covid-19 patients in the hospital than any point during the pandemic. a group of nine texas mayors sent a letter to the governor this week asking for the authority to mandate face masks. joining me now is one of the mayors who signed that letter. san antonio mayor rendevous nirenberg. i want to you make a listen to how the governor reacted to this this week. >> all of us have a responsibility to educate the public that wearing a mask is the best thing to do. putting people in jail, however, is the wrong approach. >> mayor, what's your response? >> well, thank you for having me and it's that kind of mixed messaging that i think is causing people to let hair guard down. we had a face mask mandate until the state's order, governor's orders preventing local communities from doing that and the reality is we never had to
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fine anybody. we just knew that as long as there was a requirement in place and that people were taking the guidance from the public health officials seriously, they were going to do what they needed to do, do the right thing and wear a face mask. it wasn't until the state mixed messaging on face masks and politicization of this very simple thing to do that we're starting to see the effects of it. >> governor abbott is blame ago decisional testing for the recent spike in cases. what do you attribute that spike to? >> well, we are opening texas which we knew we were going to get to at some point. we're going extremely fast, though, and without the benefit of the data to see the effects of those successive re-openings of different businesses, et cetera, the least we should be doing is to make sure that people are aware of how to do it the right way. do it smart. physical distancing, wearing a face mask, hand washing and
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sanity says of surfaces, things like that but with the mixed messaging it encouraging everybody to let their guard down. we have to learn to live with the virus for awhile until there is a vaccine. when we aren't being mindful of the medical expertise and what we know to be true which is that we have to do individual things like, again, face masking to slow the spread of this virus, we're going to be in big trouble. everybody wants this economy to open up again but can't do it -- we're only going to go backwards if we don't do it smartly. >> throughout the course of this pandemic, we have seen stunning images of very long lines coming out of the san antonio food bank and when you talk to arguizers there, they say these are not the people we're ordinarily seeing show up. we used to come and donate. now we're meme who had are in need. how is your community doing economically? >> yeah, it's a blow and it's a
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blow all across this country and what you see with those lines and those photos that have become iconic of this pandemic is the level of desperation that millions of americans have had to live with for a long time even before this pandemic. shows you how close average american families are to catastrophe with a single health event or crisis in their community. now we're seeing that and seeing it on scale so our promise to our community and what we're doing working together with the recovery efforts is to not simply be excited about going back to the way things were but to say that we can go back to better, building more resilient communities and more equity communities where people aren't living so close to the edge where they have access to health care and education and workforce opportunities, that's how we need to focus on rebuilding the country or we'll be right back on the edge during the next crisis. >> right, resilience has never seemed more relevant.
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when trump decided to rescind daca. to the trump administration i directly say, we will continue fighting. >> i have been on the edge for the last few months just kind of worried, you know, to death. i don't think it's something any of the nearly 1 million dreamers should have to worry about on a day-to-day basis but unfortunately that is our reality at the moment until we have permanent legislation that can secure our place in this country, we will always be worried and afraid of what our legal status might lead us to. it could lead to us deportation. >> thursday supreme court's ruling was a big win for the 700,000 daca recipients, their families and communities who for the first time since president trump challenged the program in 2017 were able to breathe a temporary sigh of relief. there was even some hope that trump would accept the court's ruling as polling shows growing support for daca among registered voters and even those who voted for trump in 2016
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according to politico and morning consult polling. but trump isn't backing down and on friday morning tweeted, quote, we will be submitting and enhanced papers shortly. with me is luis romero arguing to keep daca and is a daca recipient himself and managing partner of the immigrant advocacy and litigation center. also with me is lorell pirelli of community change action. you have 12 whole hours where you got to celebrate your victory before the president came in, doubled down. so tell us what does the legal battle look like starting now? >> well, right now we have to await guidance by the department of homeland security to see how they're going to comply with the supreme court order. we know that they do have to comply. there's never been a u.s. presidency that has defied a supreme court order in the history of the united states and we hope to not see it for the first time here. president trump and his administration's statements really don't have a whole lot of
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legal substance. it's really amounting to some eventing from the supreme court order and so and i think it's meant to appease his base particularly in light of his rally that is coming up this weekend and i think it's meant to scare daca recipients but won't work and until we see something substantive it amounts to hot air. >> lorella, one thing that struck me reading the opinions there is an acknowledgement it was temporary. it was never supposed to be a long-term solution and so then the question becomes, is there any appetite in congress to get a long-term solution done? >> there absolutely is and, in fact, the house has passed a bill that is ready -- at the ready for the senate to take it up. it's mitch mcconnell refuses to take up the bill so you're right, daca was never and is not a permanent solution. it's quite vulnerable and it is
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not putting people on a permanent path to legal status and that's ultimately what this fight is about. it is about that. it is about racial justice. it is about defunding our enforcement and reimagining what that should look like in america and it's at the ready so if senate democrats actually sent a letter yesterday to the trump administration telling him to stop trying to end it. to re-open and follow the court's ruling and re-open it for all. this brings us back to the beginning of the program and that if legislation is what the president wants as he tweeted, then the house already did that. there is a bill waiting for them to take it up for a vote. no change is necessary. >> luis, sonia sotomayor said his passion marks tie to his motivation to begin ending daca. what do you make of her acknowledging this and her calling out the other justices for not acknowledging it? >> yeah, i mean she really
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pointed out something daca recipients and the immigrant community has been feeling in the last four years which is president trump's charged statements oftentimes are reflected in his very draconian immigration policies, punitive and meant to punish and get rid of people who he doesn't think are american. and so i'm really happy that she at least pointed it out. you know, it's disappointing it was only by her and not the other justices but needed to be said and i'm glad she said it. >> this is obviously not just a latino issue. there are plenty of daca recipients that come from myriad countries and yet this is still such a critical touchstone issue for the latino community and it's set against the reality of a pandemic that has hit black and brown communities harder than anyone else and the protests across the country. what is on the ballot for latinos in november. >> the american agenda is what's
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on it this november. it is so critical to ensure that everyone uses the power of their vote so it is about daca. it is about reforming our immigration system. it is about the economy. it is about as your previous guest was saying making sure that americans are not living on the edge and that any catastrophe can make life so hard, right, so impossible for people that they are just on the verge every day and so that's the latino agenda. it is about creating a system and creating an economy, a care economy, right, it is shifting into that kind of future and i believe that's what these protests are about. they're about police brutality but they're ultimately about how the black community has not -- has been disinvested in and is about reimagining a future where everyone can thrive together. alicia, i want to say something i failed to mention earlier when we were talking about the congressional action. ultimately i think that's what the fight in november is also
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about. it is about our ability to put a bill that really recognizes the dig think the of the people who in this country and are and continue to contribute in every way because this is their home and what's happened from the beginning. can we target this and target the sympathetic group of immigrants. the young people who came here when they were young. right? and can we do that and use them as a bargaining chip to get an advance our anti-immigrant agenda. that is stephen miller's dream. that is why they're asking dhs to go back and figure out how to end the program but what they have forgotten or what they have failed to see is that the resilience of young undocumented immigrants and their commitment to the community is simile reject the notion that some get relief at the expense of others.
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taking on renewed urgency this weekend in the wake of protests across the country against police violence. beyonce got in the mix friday, dropping a new single called "black parade". proceeds from the song benefit black owned small businesses. for more let's turn to blayne alexander, who's followed juneteenth celebrations across the country. >> reporter: this is america's celebration. from d.c. -- >> we all have the power to make a change. >> reporter: to detroit. atlanta, to l.a. people all over the country honoring juneteenth, the day marking the end of slavery in the u.s. >> now i feel the sense of community, empowerment that i get from the day, from my peers, black and non-black. >> reporter: but with the country right in the middle of a racial reckoning. this year's festivities take on a new meaning.
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>> i stand here today as an educated black woman. >> reporter: in new york, nurses took a knee. >> the fact we're going through different forms of slavery today, but hopefully it will change soon. >> reporter: in detroit, the street now bearing a new message. >> now we have the attention of the world. and we are not going to let this slide. >> reporter: from corporations to congress there's a new push to elevate juneteenth. nike, twitter, j.p. morgan ch e chase. among the names pushing to make it a holiday. only texas recognizes juneteenth as an official state holiday. this week officials in at least five other states said it's time to follow suit. on capitol hill, a renewed effort to make this a federal holiday. juneteenth was born the day slavery died. despite the emancipation proclamation in 1863, slavery
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thrived for another two and a half years. it took union soldiers riding through the south enforcing the order that slaves didn't know exist preponderance of the evidence finally in 1865 word reached the final hold out, galveston, texas. june 19th. >> so it's like independence day? >> absolutely. in some juneteenth celebrations you had fireworks being set off by african-americans. again, this marked that moment of freedom, that moment where families can now be reunited. >> reporter: now galveston is a place of education. >> growing up somewhere the holiday wasn't taught, i thought it was important to see the sight and learn the history about it. >> reporter: across the country, a look to the future. >> what gives you that power? >> there's so many people here and i feel the african spirit are all coming to me and saying you are the example. you are the living testimony. >> if it stops at celebrating
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one day and then on june 20th we forget and we fall back into our old habits, then it's not a real significant step forward. >> reporter: a charge to keep pushing for progress on juneteenth and beyond. blayne alexander nbc news, atlanta. >> blayne, thank you. that wraps it up for this hour. my colleague, joshua johnson picks up our coverage at the top of the hour. he'll speak with an organizer of a rally against the president's event in tulsa. i'll be back at 4:00 p.m. eastern to talk to the chairman of the black caucus over her concerns of the president's divisive politics. stay with us, you're watching msnbc live. us, you're watching msnbc live
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i'm joshua johnson, good to be with you today from msnbc news world headquarters in new york. president trump's re-election campaign is under way, and it will begin here in tulsa. thousands are gathered downtown at the bok center for a campaign rally. the president is set to leave the white house this hour and fire up the supporters. public health officials are tense over the risk of making it all too easy for covid-19 to spread even faster. some breaking news we're following illustrates they may have good reason to be worried. we found out six members of the trump advance team in tulsa have tested positive for covid-19. more on that ahead.
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