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you could not have had a worse or disastrous opening to this campaign, if you went out to spend a billion dollars. what a debacle for donald trump. >> trump's return to the trail in his first 2020 rally. he talked law and order, covid testing and blamed china. as his staff tested positive. >> the smaller than expected crowd turned out in tulsa. the campaign says protesters scared them away. >> fired, a powerful u.s. attorney who put trump's circle in his cross hairs. >> as spring training migrates
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to the north. june 21, happy father's day to all you dads out there. >> we will begin with tulsa. protesters and trump supporters, squaring off after the president's campaign rally. black lives matters supporters, greeted tump supporters. >> pepper spray was deployed against protesters in more than one location. earlier in the day, trump supporters and black lives matter demonstrators came face to fampts one exchange about the 1921 race massacre. how it ended.
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>> outside, a puppet, mimicing the president marched through tulsa. and others put flames to the trump campaign flag. the president in a prerally interview. >> the silent majority is stronger than ever before. >> i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. we should have legislation that if somebody wants to burn the american flag and stomp on t they go to jail for one year. >> the president's campaign speech under heavy scrutiny. >> his team is defending itself over the smaller than expected crowd. even pink, the singer says, she
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sold out this arena of 19,000 in five minutes. joking, i believe, perhaps. a lot of people are giving heat to the campaign, to all of the empty seats in the arena. the president returned to the white house without making remarks. his tie, unusually, untied. >> there was fear monthering at every level. race baiting, the chinese virus. can you think-flu, it was a sense of desperation. rooted in the most hateful language. >> get out to morgan bradford in tulsa. give us a sense what have it was like on the ground between trump supporters and black lives matter protesters. we saw one getting arrested live on air. >> we are standing outside right
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now. this was the scene of protesters, those outside all day. people were lined up waiting to see the president. it is important to remember, it wasn't just black lives matter protesters, regular tulsa residents opposing the president's visit. he was drunlging up division in their otherwise calm and peaceful city. supporters pledged their allegiance to the president in this time of national unrest. it was important for them to come out. take a listen. >> silence is violence. if you stay silent, are you part of the problem. this is a new generation, we want to do things differently. everybody may not agree on the same strategy, as long as our voices are heard.
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see the sign. it may change somebody's heart. that is what we are trying to do. >> they have plenty of security to handle it. they are messing things up. no point in tearing things up. i don't think it will happen around here. >> with all the people out here, and the interactions, will this tulsa rally become a super spreader of the coronavirus. be ins surging over 10,000 over the weekend. waiting to see what happens, here at the entrance of this arena, hand hanitizer, handing out masks, they were not required inside. as we were watching, very few people had masks on. not much social distancing. >> we can see that in the b-roll we are showing the audience
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right now. >> people not showing up, maybe that was their way of social distancing. it could be. before the rally started. >> six people, setting up the event have tested positive. the details from the white house. we saw the president arriving at 1:00 a.m., eastern time at the white house. he didn't look excited. it was early in the morning. many people were saying he looked slightly defeated. >> it was a difficult night for the president after a rally, morgan was describing, had less of a crowd than he had anticipated. this concerning development that we learned about with six members of the president's advance staff for that campaign trip testing positive for coronavirus. the advance staff are staffers
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that go out ahead of a presidential event to get the logistics set up. at least two of the six were secret service employees that the white house is doing contract tracing, to try to identify who those people might have come into contact with. it came as morgan was describing, a litmus test in and of itself of social distancing, on wearing masks, and how much of a risk coronavirus is right now. the president, raising eyebrows in his rally remarks, brought up the topic of coronavirus testing. take a listen. >> testing is a double edged sword. we have tested now, 25 million people. it is probably 20 million people more than anybody else. germany has done a lot.
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they call me, the job are you doing, here is the bad part. when you do testing to that extent. you will find more cases. i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. >> slow the testing down. the president seeming to imply, he wanted less testing so that numbers wouldn't increase. that created an uproar, a senior official. clearly, the president was speeblging in guest. the president used a lot of his speech to mock joe biden, things he has said in guest that were controversial. not giving joe biden the same benefit of the doubt, that his staff gives him. as for the comment about slowing down the testing.
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>> joe biden saying, speed up the testing. >> at the white house with the latest. thanks, man. >> now, to the politics reporter for "usa today." you were there at the rally in tulsa. saw some of your photos last night. and the pictures, it seemed relatively empty for a trump rally. what stood out to you the most? >> what stood out to me was the attendance, the campaign spent so much time hyping up the numbers for the rally. they were giving out a million tickets. we came in to what appeared to be a half if you feel rally venue. this was to hold 19,000 people. >> some of the campaign members had to cancel appearances, outside in the overflow area. there wasn't an overflow area. >> show headlines, magga less
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meg a and the "new york times." trump rally fizzles. >> the fade from the drunlg report. >> they say protesters interfered, with radical protesters and onslaught of the media, attempted to frighten off supporters. is there any truth to that? >> there was a group of protesters on a line with police outside one of the entrances to the rally. but you were able to go through the law enforcement officers would walk you through. at times, it was tense, it was not completely blocked. >> i know the power of k-pop
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fans, we know what powers teenagers on tick tock have. those fans registered hundreds of thousands of tickets for the rally. this is why so many didn't show up. does it sound like an excuse. did this movement take place on line? >> if you believe all of the charter ta that is going on on tick tock, it probably did inflait the ticket, it didn't take away from the seats inside. the thing we can't ignore is that coronavirus pandemic is still on-going. such an uproar over it, over the way things were handled at least one top aid resigned. >> that may be an excuse for
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inside. the over flow crowd, were there tickets available for that? it was so poorly attended, the president and the vice president decided not to go outside. >> there was one ticket to the event. you had access, you could go between the two. there weren't all that many people outside at the outdoor stage they had set up. >> joe biden is speaking to the colorado 2020 virtual obama dinner. >> none of us can be silent. we are dealing with multiple national crisis. we need leadership right now. leadership to bring everybody to the table, to take measures to root out systemic racism. stand with the minority
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communities, and stand together, and deliver justice to all americans. >> two different messages. clearly, what is resinating with voters right now? >> well, if the polls are to be believed. we have seen trends show. joe biden is the one who is leading right now. obviously, we are in deep oklahoma right now. if there is any indication, there could be slipping support for the president. >> bad poll numbers for the president over the last week. there was one poll as well that shows that he is down by 12 points in the general election match up. biden is pulling ahead of trump in fundraising, outraising them by $7 million. the trump campaign claims that
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silent majority is as strong as never before. >> you get a difference in mood from the campaign? >> it seemed like a much more streamlined, well-oiled machine. things do appear to have broken down in terms of the execution of last night's rally. >> it is a different time, obviously, than the 2016 campaign. it sounds like a lot of the messages, that the president had, is the same. a lot of it feels similar. we will have to see if it still resinates with the silent majority. >> they don't know where the message is, there was a clear message to 2016. it sounded like grievances to them. the campaign has to figure out its voice.
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>> yes, in 2016, trump could run against hillary clinton, came up with nicknames and attacks. with joe biden, those aren't sticking to him. what we saw last night, he tried to set up a contrast. comments about testing, you saw that the clip, about the contest with joe biden. stripping out everything else. >> the other big story, the president fired the federal prosecutor in new york, that refused to resign. it touched off a fire storm of reaction. >> why did the president want him gone? he said he had nothing to to
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>> welcome back, a powerful u.s. attorney in manhattan has been fired by the president after a chaotic and stunning standoff. >> before going to tulsa, president trump fired jeffrey berman, who has been investigating some of the president's top allies, including rudy giuliani. >> barr announced that berman was stepping down. he said he was not resigning. the switch was president trump's idea. clayton played golf with the
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president, said he was leaving the s.e.c. >> we have a capable attorney general, that is up to him. i am not involved. >> berman removal set off alarmbles, because he has been investigating rudy giuliani. >> republican lindsey graham, said he would -- >> the president fired berman. >> the southern district of new york is involved in a number of cases involving friends and allies of the president. even if it is lawful, it looks very bad. >> the inspector general to
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monitor the office to make sure cases are handled appropriately. >> joining us now, a former prosecutor, and legal analyst. thank you for being here. what is happening? >> fair question. >> it is hard to understand this one. as being anything other than a product of bill barr and donald trump trying to protect the president. when you realize that southern district of new york u.s. attorney's office, one of 94 u.s. attorney offices operating around the country is handling cases that directly involve the president. whether it is the michael cohen finance case, the bank investigation, whether it is an investigation into the trump inaugural committee for potentially improperly taking
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foreign money as contributions, or the prosecution of rudy giuliani's business partners, an investigation into rudy giuliani himself. for bill barr to remove him, try to install the head of the security and exchanges commission, who has infer been a prosecut prosecutor. it looks bad. it looks like they are trying to orchestrate a favorable u.s. attorney to perhaps do favors for donald trump. >> the letter to berman, something, wrote in part, he was surprised and quite disappointed by berman's response friday
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night. he hoped that the departure was amicable, remain in the administration in some capacity. barr said, you have chosen public spectacle over public service. and barr kept referring to a previous discussion that he claims he and berman had. that who do we believe here? >> given that bill barr has been so severely criticized by a federal judge in washington, d.c., in a written order, judge walton said that bill barr mischaracterized the mueller report, and lacked candor, it seems like the smart credibility money is riding on jeff berman. this is no different than when bill barr yanked the u.s.
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attorney out of the district attorney office, going to the prosecutors in the roger stone case, said they needed a leaniet punishment and the we have seen this movie before. when bill barr puts a loyalist in there, trying to tank cases of the president's friends and associat associates. >> that has all been just this year. >> a quick take on something else. last week president trump's niece, mary trump, is on track to publish a book. the president is looking to get his lawyers involved. mary trump signed a
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nondisclosure agreement. you get a sense that would hold up? >> that is how it often plays out. if you enter into a contract with an employer, not to disclose that information, you violate it because you want to write a book and make a bunch of money. the courts won't weigh in to try to shut down the book being released. a suit it may give rise to, it can result in money damages, judged against the author of the book, it generally will not result in the courts shutting down the release of the book. >> thanks. >> new york city, more of phase
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>> breaking news from minneapolis, a shooting killed at least one person and injured 11 others, police released information about what took place. >> it occurred in a commercial area, police say, the people injured have nonlife threatening injuries. we will keep you posted. >> another record high for cases, adding 4,000 cases. the average age for those cases is 37. down from the 60s.
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desantis changed the roll the testing has had on the high numbers. >> with testing increasing or being flat. the number of people testing positive is accelerating faster than that there is transmission within communities, particularly the 20s and 30s. >> to be clear to add on that 12% positivity rate. new york is at 1%, that is -- >> major league baseball shut down training camps in florida and arizona because of rising cases, several players tested positive. the facilities will reopen. the yankees and the mets for example, they will train at their home ballparks. >> officials in kansas, requiring all visitors from alabama, arizona, arkansas and
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maryla maryland visitors to quarantine. >> now, new york city enters phase two reopening. barbershops, and shops for in-store shopping the open up. south street seaport. corey, it has been so long, i have never been to a barber in the last decade. i may go and hug them. the next waiter i see. >> just because you can. >> welcome. >> i think this is going to be a major breath of fresh air for some people. really looking forward to it. more than 100 days, guys, since new york entered lockdown. getting through phase 1 was such a hard-fought battle in itself. now, finally at phase two, they can eat outside here a bit in
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the historic neighborhood of south street seaport district. it will include outdoor dining, hair salons, and in-store retail. another major development. real estate, vehicle sales and among other things, this will be big for businesses. obviously, there is the caveat, you have to wear your mask, implement social distancing, outdoor dining, it is much needed for their businesses. take a listen. >> i think it is a positive thing we are able to use this space. being with covid, we are not able to serve inside. at least, it gives us extra tables to have outdoor seating. i think it is great. the only disadvantage, is of course, the weather. it is all weather permitting. if it is raining, we can't serve. if the weather is great, it is
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positive. we have seen outdoor dining in new jersey. it is starting to trickle in here to the city now. for new york and for manhattan. the infection rates remain below 1%. governor cuomo is dedicated to not see a surge like we see in other states. phase three, not for at least another two weeks, as we watch the numbers. >> joining us is dr.ic calv imi. do you feel confident getting a
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hair cut? >> i have to be honest. i have been doing phase two, the last seven weeks, we have been out and about, doing take out, sitting in chairs outside. the numbers have stayed low. infection rates below 1%. we are proving it works. going outside when it is sunny. literally. in other parts of the country, there is a tornado outside. we are keeping it low. denying the virus spaces, indoor public spaces, the virus has no were else to go, home and emergency rooms. we are keeping it at bay. >> florida and south carolina, set daily record high, more than a dozen states are seeing increases, as the u.s. added more cases on friday than it has
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since the start of the month. you look at that you hear the numbers, how concerning is that to you? >> i am concerned and frustrated. we gave everyone three months, we gave them a three-month head start in new york city. you saw what we went through. you didn't do anything we warned you b now, here we are. we are going to play ping pong back and fofrmth eventually, they will travel to new york city, because they hear there is low infection rates, who knows what will happen. if we keep it to the culture. new york city has a great culture, i see everybody wearing masks. someone told me, put on a mask. they didn't know who i was. i put on a mask. >> i do it because i am a team
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player, i am a doctor, it is important. i think that culture makes a huge difference. when you see others doing it, there is nothing bigger than the little things. >> we appreciate your honesty. i haven't had a hair cut since january or february, this week. >> the scene from the "color purple." . >> retailers are being asked to take the 15% pledge. >> a initiative to help support black-owned businesses. one chain has signed on. we will explain next. tiz the law, winning the belmont stakes, head in front of empty
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>> time is running out, industry leaders and election experts say expanding by-mail voting, congress must act now to fund this voting and states need to make it happen. people should not have to chose between their health and participating in democracy. >> the city of brotherly love will see big changes, philadelphia moves into the next phase of reopening. gyms and hair salons, and reduced capacity in-door dining. >> 43% of philly's population is black. only 2.5% of businesses are
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black-owned. those owners hit hard by the pandemic and looting from recent protests. live in facility, you have been there through the pandemic, reporting on the protests and more. what are you hearing from black business owners? >> good morning guys, you can see behind me, the businesses are boarded up after three weeks of protesting. it was violent for the first couple of days, in the initial protests, the businesses have been closed for four months, some black business owners said they lost 90% of what they saw last year. there is uncertainty of reopening, and taking account of the rashlg disparity. protesters are bringing awareness to. what he suffered maybe it was the cost of bringing to bear
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funds to go to businesses along with loans. >> speaking of black-owned businesses, although black-owned businesses may be few in philadelphia, one woman has developed an initiative. >> she calls the 15% pledge. citing that african americans make up 15% of the u.s. large retailers should commit 15% of shelves from black-owned businesses. >> creator of the 15% pledge. sephora has signed on. >> any other businesses? >> i am happy people are
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starting to step up. it is about long-term accountability. what you are hearing from black business owners, what does it look like three, six years from now. being account abable. there is say stores like target or wal-mart purchase 15%. would than enough to save some from closing? >> absolutely. the first you four we asked, target, whole foods, that will hit the black community it would be significant and save a lot.
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colorado is now the latest state to pass a sweeping police reform bill. >> that bill bans chokeholds, puts an end to qualified immunity, which protects officers from lawsuits, and requires members of the police to report other officers for wrongdoing. joining us now a retired nypd deputy inspector and author of the book "once a cop." >> corey, good morning to you. what do you make of colorado's
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new policy including requiring members of the department to report other bad cops? >> you were breaking up. say it one more time. >> do you think this colorado rule could be plausible nationwide including having good cops report bad cops? >> yes, definitely. i've been speaking about the law enforcement bystander bill with i would be the same thing. if you witness anything that another cop does in front of you, you should have an important responsibility to report that officer. i'm talking about a cop using discourteous remarks to a cop abusing someone and it has to be strict and stiff consequences and the only way that you're going to make change is having consequences. it can't be a slap on the wrist. it has to be across the country
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that we would not tolerate officers standing by being quiet. >> right now in congress there are two different plans, one from republicans, one from democrats. they both have the same goal, police reform. democrats want to ban chokeholds while republicans would disincentivize it. democrats would ban no-knock warns. the gop plan would require those get reported. democrats want to reduce qualified immunity. the reamian bill doesn't address it and democrats want to create a nationwide police misconduct database. the gop plan would require shootings and use of force. a graphic of the differences. do you have a plan you're favoring right now? >> first, congress can't talk to each other across the aisle. the changes will have to be locally. changes will have to be locally. i like something on both sides
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of the aisle but more importantly police departments, mayors, municipalities have to. it will take they're going to fight tooth and nail like the national database. two weeks later the cop that murdered him was able to get a job. we have no national database. the middle ground will be able to come together and do something. as far as chokeholds are concerned, i'm all for a national ban on chokeholds. they should have -- the chokehold should be banned but if deadly force is being used against you, it should be a tool
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they should be able to use, for instance -- >> at least they're talking about reforming. corey, we're going to leave it there. appreciate your time. thank you. thank you for watching this hour of "msnbc live." we will be back next weekend at 6:00 a.m. eastern. up next, the fallout from president trump's rally in tulsa. alex witt talks to a professor who says it was full of fear mongering and race-baiting. stressballs gummies have ashwagandha,
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