tv Weekends With Alex Witt MSNBC June 21, 2020 9:00am-11:00am PDT
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. good day, everyone. just about high noon on the nose here in the east and 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to weekends with alex whit. the president and the prosecu prosecutor. back on the trail with a lot of empty seats. what the president did and didn't say in a critical time for this country. ready to reopen. whi cases are surnling in the south. plus fathers and families. the gatherings about this historic moment in america. we have two big stories this hour. new reaction to the president's first covid era campaign rally. last night in tulsa, where there were smaller than expected
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crowds to hear his 2020 campaign messages. >> we will never kneel to our national anthem or our great american flag. they don't sale lot of bombs when we're not dropping bombs on people. you know that, right? so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. i got nicer properties. i got nicer houses. i got nicer apartments. i got nicer everything. >> that rally was an embarrassment. it was absolutely what the nation does not need right now. he did not speak about healing. he did not recognize any of o the racial tensions that are happening across our country. >> and there is some new fallout from the president's firing of u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york after a public stand off between berman and barr. today, the chairman said barr should be impeached by the o
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outcome is predict bable. >> we have a corrupt republican majority in the senate which will not consider an impeachment no matter what the evidence and no matter what the facts. >> you're calling every senate republican who voted to acquit president trump corrupt? >> i think in the sense of being a corrupt against the interest of the country, yes. >> and john bolton in an interview before berman was fired said that he heard trump promise the leader of turkey that prosecutors in new york would be replaced. >> the president said to erdogan, look, those prosecutors in new york are obama people. wait till i get my people in then we'll take care of this. and i thought to myself, i'm a department of justice alum myself, i had never heard any president say anything like that. ever. >> also new today, white house adviser peter navarro issuing a
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damning accusation against china claiming the communist party created the coronavirus. josh levin is at the white house with more on this on this sunday. josh, there's got to be a lot behind this comment. what is it? >> yeah, peter navarro offering no evidence for what is essential ly a conspiracy theor that has already been proven to be unfounded. in fact, the trump administration itself closed the r door to the possibility that china had artificially created this virus intentionally in a statement in april from the u.s. drirector of national intelligence that said in part, the intelligence community concurs with the wide sign tifb con senn is sus that the covid-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified but p e peter navarro opening that door back up this morning in comments in which he said that china should be considered guilty until proven innocent. take a listen to what he had to
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say. >> china created this pandemic. they hid the virus, they created this virus and they sent over hundreds of thousands of chinese citizens here to spread that around and around the world. whether they did that on purpose, that's an open question, but that's a fact. >> and alex, i had a chance the talk a little bit with peter navarro just after those comments. just down the driveway here at the white house this morning and he doubled down on them saying in fact that he thinks that china weaponized airplanes just like osama bin laden did. i said what exactly do you mean by that? he said because china shut down domestic air travel during the coronavirus pandemic but allowed international flights to leave china that essentially, the chinese government seeded other parts of the world with this virus by sending airplanes there. obviously he's not providing evidence for this, but the broader context is that we know it's very important to the white house now to keep a keen focus
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on what they see as china's cupablety on this as they head towards an election in which a lot is at stake about how americans view responsibility for the state of our economy on the fact we are in the middle of this pandemic. president trump last night in his rally emphasizing the need to keep call iing this the chine virus instead of coronavirus. >> wow. you got a lot there. so i'm going to pick up what you heard directly from peter navarro, which you have just told us about while walking on that driveway right now. thank you for that. joining me now is peter baker, chief white house correspondent at "the new york times." also, janelle ross. peter, what do you think of what josh was reporting there, those comments by navarro suggest iin there's an equation between that which happened by allowing international flights into china with that which happened on 9/11 by osama bin laden?
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>> well, look, navarro is known for insind yar language. he has said many things over the years that have been meant to stir the pot. he referred to this as the kung there's flu. racist term which his white house previously denied ever using. it's returning to the campaign mode where they're looking for somebody to blame about the coronavirus. china is likely. they're the easiest you know suspect there and there's a lot to question about china's behavior in this. no question about that. our reporters got kicked out of beijing in part because they were question iing the official version of events but this is a person who has been under attack himself for his own response or slowness responding to the virus, so shifting blame is the obvious strategy here. peter navarro would like to create. bolton's book very clear how in collaboration, the president is with xi of china, not standing
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up tough to him according to ambassador bolton. navarro is trying to rebut saying we're very, very tough china! this kind of rhetoric we're hearing from navarro and the president all the time, is this helping him with american voters? >> well -- it's a talking point that you'll see i think a lot through the fall. they need you know to have, he's better when -- the president is better at these events, on the campaign trial, when he has foil to play off of. it may not reach out to the majority of americans, the middle of independents you would think he needs to win other, but it riles up his own base and his strategy has been a base strategy. maximizing the people who already like him that come out and vote for him and depress the other side. so he'll accuse joe biden of being weak on china and try to depress the democratic vote for him while increasing his own
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vote. that's a real uphill strategy. especially as see these polls with ten-point deficits. he'll return to something he's comfortable with. that enemy is china. >> so that calculus, janelle, the president was certainly hoping to reset the campaign with this rally since the coronavirus outbreak. do you think he accomplished that with the tulsa rally yesterday? you were there. what did you observe? >> i think something that peter said really struck me, which is that the president prefers to have a foil and that this is one of his tried and true campaign techniques. you certainly could hear some of that in the speech he made yesterday. i would say, i would probably not use the word foil so much as i would use the word scapegoat. you saw him go directly there. there were a lot of sort of dog miwhistles and sort of illusion to ideas that have some roots or
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connections to white nationalists themes and then in addition to that certainly plenty of red meat for people who perhaps find themselves appalled or frightened by the idea that large numbers of americans have taken to the street in protest to conditions they find unacceptable. so i think the president really focused there and he was certainly speaking to his base and that those are ideas that have appealed to that group of people before. >> so but the president also chose not to talk about juneteenth in his speech. that is a holiday that he claims he made famous nor this country, so why not address it? >> that is an interesting question. but i think it comes right back to the your first question, which is i think that this was in fact a campaign event. designed to appeal to trump's base. and i don't know how much traction discussion about juneteenth and his role, whether
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intentional or inadvertent in elevating juneteenth to a holiday which multiple corporations have subsequently recognized and many more americans are trying to learn more about. >> the timing of this rally came after a rough week. the sinking poll numbers, a couple of decisions that didn't go his way. any insight into mood in the white house and the trump campaign? not what they're saying, but what actually is being felt? >> the mood is not good today. the president was unhappy about the rally. that he had to cancel the outdoor rally. not happy that the numbers were told he had been told they would be and unhappy that he's embarrassed, that six of his own advanced team members had tested positive for covid-19. unhappy that two secret service members of his own detail have now tested positive for the covid-19. so i think this is a, it's kind of a, if i were a trump aide, today is the day you want want to avoid the office and phone if
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you could because he's going to be in a bad mood. that's the expectation any way. he railed on his aides, even on the way over as air force one was passing overhead, you could see there wasn't the large crowd he expected there to be. this goes to the heart of what has energized him in the past through all the difficulties and troubles and criticisms, you could always count on these rallies to revive and give him spirit, energy, a real up feeling and for this to go wrong after the three months of not having any at all, makes for a bad weekend. >> i'm curious, peter because you got this big public and off from the doj and top federal prosecutor in manhattan. critics are seeing this firing. they're wondering if it has to do with the giuliani gags, that somehow it fits into a pattern and i'll also add that former federal prosecutor mcquaid
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suggests to her that there's something big that they want to keep quiet. so is this evidence suggesting that there is a larger pattern here? bigger issues? >> well, remember john bolton's big which isn't out yet, but he described the issue with berman and erdogan. in a licharge rer sense, he use the phrase of b obstruction of justice as a way of life. in addition to that and the statement that attorney general barr put out late friday night and a let eer he sent to berman yesterday o saturday, in either of these statements or letters did he give a reason r for replacing. didn't even have you know, a cover story to say we're getting rid of you because you mishandled this or because we want to make a change for that reason. basically leaving open the conclusion that you're raising and that maybe people are raising which is that this must
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be connected. he doesn't even effectively deny that in these let eters. so i think they don't even seem to mind that people are seeing it as retribution against the prosecutor. they basically are leaving that as a story line uncontested. >> janelle, tell me if there's been a discussion about the possibilile tilitle tility of t night being a superspreader? people there thinking oh, boy, quarantining done now, temperature check, do testing another ten days from now after a potential incubation period? >> certainly. this is sort of a strange coincidence, but when i went to a local store just to pick up some essentials, the clerk at the counter raised the possib possibility. i think there are people all over the city who are concerned given that this is a city that has seen a spike in cases just this week. so i think there are people
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concerned. that being said, it is important for people to keep in mind that people came from all over the country to this event. i personally spoke to people who camped out for days. they came from florida, ohio and michigan. so i don't know that we can say definitively that any spread that may come from this rally will be limited to oklahoma. >> yeah. which actually creates a bigger problem b but thank you for illuminate iing it for us. good to see you both. thank you. joining me now, congresswoman kathleen rice, democrat from new york. welcome to you. you're a former prosecutor so this big issue here, your reaction i'd love to know, to what we've been watching play out over these last couple of days. >> you know, i would say that this is the last straw, but unfortunately, we know that's not true. we've seen this kind of behavior over and over again. before i came to congress, i spent my entire career as a tate and federal prosecutor and when i was with doj, it was, there
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was one clear rule that you prosecute cases without fear or favor and politics is never to enter into the equation and unfortunately what we have seen from this attorney general is ore and over again, the plitization of the department of justice. he should step down. he should resign. what he is doing to the justice system in the country is saying i am not the attorney general for this country. i am the attorney general for this president and that is really very dangerous. i don't think we've ever seen this before in theory of this country. >> i want to take a listen to what your colleague, adam schiff, said on the matter this morning. >> i think the most disastrous management of the justice department in modern memory and like so much of what we have seen this administration, it doesn't come as a surprise anymore, but yet, it's completely demoralizing to the people in the department. and dangerous to the rule of
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law. >> speak to the demoralization and the within the department there and dangerous to the rule of law the actions that are being done right now. >> well, look, i have a lot of former colleagues who have been expressing their displeasure at trying to work for the government. and holding themselves to these very high standards of not allowing politics to come into it and then to see the leader of the department of justice to completely make decisions based on politics. what happened to berman should be a warning shot for any u.s. attorney across the country who has the tu merty to investigate the president's friends. whether it's dictators or truong men like erdogan or rudy giuliani and michael cohen. and the fact that this attorney general, barr, did not give one reason, not one reason, for why he fired him. i think that when this is
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investigated, what is going to come out is this was trump making a promise, keeping a promise, to his friends that he's going to take krcare of th out of control u.s. attorney in new york and that's what he did and he had his hench men, barr, carry it out. i hope the american public is looking at this closely and paying attention to this issue because if we want to be a country where the rule of law matters, this has got to stop. >> you said this is going to be investigated by whom? will it be somebody who's impartial? when's that going to be done? >> inspector general, hopefully they're looking into it. at doj. hopefully that's number one. number two, chairman nadler, the head of the judiciary committee in the house said that he's looking into this as well and but the facts have to come out. we can't just allow the president and the attorney general to protect their friends and croniecronies.
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we cannot allow the attorney general to act as the personal attorney for the president protecting him personally and politically. this has got to stop. so yeah, i think there are going to be multiple investigations as well there should be. because we have to restore the integrity the department of justice if the rule of law is going to mean anything in this country. >> congresswoman, thank you very much. i appreciate that. the bolton book bombshells. what impact will they have on the trump presidency and his chances for re-election? cleaning power of liquid.
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we are learning more about the shooting this morning that killed one person and injured 11 more in minneapolis. according to police, individuals starting shooting into a crowd of people in the southwest part of the city that's been shaken by these weeks of pau tests. they were firing in front of many bars and restaurants that had recently reopened due to the pandemic. you can see broken windows here from the gun shots.
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we've got several suspects currently at large and the 11 surviving victims are listed with nonlife threatening injuries. a federal dunlg judge denied the trump administration's request to block publication of a new book by john bolton and tuesday, that book will be on book shelves across the country. let's bring in david ignatius, "washington post" columnist and associate editor, who has read an advanced copy of the book. what was your overall impression of the book? do you think bolton is clearing his conscious or cashing if? in? >> well, probably some of both. whether he's going to be able to cash in is the in question after the court's ruling. so i have read the book. i reviewed it for the "washington post." i think anybody who follows the trump presidency ought to take a careful look. as much as we thought we knew about trump's arrogance, his,
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his use of office for personal gain and favors, there is vastly more in this book. what's amazing to me is how john bolton just sat on all this material during the impeachment investigation and the trial and senate. he had the most rell vabt evidence imaginable to question that is the senate was weighing in this constitutional historic impeachment process and didn't say anything so it's now in the book people ought to inform themselves, where this goes from here, yoi don't know, it's real in the hands of the public. we have the trial of our election coming up in november, but this is a highly relevant document r for anybody who wants to make a good decision about who our president should be. >> you have to wonder what kind of verdict will be rendered on john bolton. we have the president, the r verdict can be rendered via the polls on election day, but bolton wants to see how he goes down in the public conscious. that said, you've added this is
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more damaging than other books that have offered insider's looks at trump. how so? is there something that sticks out of the vast examples that you say this one was shocking? >> so, john bolton was one of those meticulous people you see in a meeting. just leaning over skrcribbling, taking notes. you realize he was listening to every meeting. go back to his office, write down notes. every phone call, took down notes. every conversation, as i was walking out of the oval office, secretary pompeo took me aside, i've never read a book like this. it has a level of evidence we're not used to. the courts are going to weigh the question of whether any of that material is classified. b bolton argues it isn't. i read theseall the time. i never see this intimate d
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day-to-day contacts with people. >> and david, the fact you say bolton sat on this information, does he defend that in the book? >> he tries to. but you know, he has this whole argument that the impeachment investigation was miscast. it was impeachment malpractice. they focused on ukraine, but there were more important examples of the president's abuse of power and he names them. for example, the president basically promising to do a deal with china in change for china's help in the re-election. that was even more outrageous than what we know about ukraine, so why didn't you mention it? he knew it at the time. one interesting point i'd make in the time we have remaining. bolton says as this ukraine drug deal, this crazy process surrounding the phone call with zelensky was going down, he
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contacted barr and said he wanted a private talk with barr and the language the president seemed to be giving favors to his favorite dictators. he mentioned china and his deals with xi, turkey and erdogan. so barr was on notice back then from bolton himself that there was something unusual, inappropriate, going on the way the president was using power. does that link to the investigations that were going on in the southern district of new york that barr has just tried to scuttle by firing that prosecutor? there are questions as we pick up the threads here, so i think what's in the bach is highly relevant. >> just to expand, your conclusion was that trump was played by the toughest and most ruthless people in the world. convinced that he could charm or intimidate anyone. so what's the fallout going to be from that? >> well, again, something for the people of the united states to weigh. through and through the book, you give this running shrill qui
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by trump to believe that he in a personal relationship wixi in china or jim congressen or even iranian leaders, that by the magic of his personality, could get deals that nobody else could get and bolton says at various points like it made me ill to listen to this explanation of the president's conviction that he, he alone, and we've all heard this from trump. but it's in the book. and again, the question is why didn't bolton, not just in terms of the impeachment investigation, but day-to-day in his conduct on the white house, why didn't he do anything about it? that's what i'm left scratching my head about. >> great conversation, david ignatius. good to see you. the black lives matter movement. how that started and swept this
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president trump's speech, the same divisive speech. black business owners in the green district of tulsa were hoping the president would mention an understanding of their plight in this unprecedented time. joining me now, priscilla thompson. with a welcome. so how are people feeling overall about the president's visit and the content of his speech at the rally last night? >> good afternoon, alex. well, while folks may have hoped the president would have said some of those things, they didn't seem to have much faith that he actually would. i've spoken to half a dozen people out here this morning and none of them actually tuned in to listen to his message but i did meet one man who did. tell me a little about you listened to the rally last
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night. what did you think of the president's message? >> i think the president's message spout ed the same divisive rhetoric that it always has and i think it's very clear that this president is for a country that is not inclusive of everyone and that his plan, as always has been, has been to incite fear in the people he is talking to that this heritage is going to go away. he spoke a lot about our st heritage, statues, that our word shows he's not inclusive of all americans. definitely not about the statues. >> there was controversy about him coming here. it was originally scheduled for juneteenth, but last night after his rally, a huge crowd came down here to greenwood. you were here. tell me what that was like. >> that was once in a lifetime kind of energy. the, what you saw last night was a display of the resilience of our people. it showed not om do we see it as a continuation of juneteenth, but it was to show that in the
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midst of everything, we are loved, we are not violent. we are not thugs as some would paint us as. we stand united and we're going to love on each other and celebrate regardless of what kind of issues come about. that's who we are. >> thank you. and you know, alex, we've heard a lot of people here express some disappointment that the president didn't mention greenwood in his remarks. but i did speak to one woman who said that just by him coming here did in a sense put some of that you know, energy in the spotlight on the massacre that happened here all those years ago and in a way, it did raise awareness for a lot of people who did not know about that. >> i hope the words of your guests there b about who p people of greenwood are resonate even more loudly. thank you so much. thousands of protestors continue to march through london this weekend despite a ban on large gatherings and today, the
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demonstrations are a bit quieter, but protestors continue to call for an end to racial injustice and police violence and they are expressing solidarity with the black lives matter movement. leersd of the protests are demanding a meeting with boris johnson. let's go to mountaatt bradley i london. what's going on there in what have you seen and heard from the protestors this weekend? >> yeah, alex, we've been walking around with these protestors today and yesterday and as you mentioned, this crowd is a bit smaller than yesterday when it was a few thousand people tromping through downtown london and really making their message heard but this is the fourth con ssecutive weekend of black lives matter protests here in london and that's remarkable in itself. goes to show how much how much events in the united states, especially ones about social justice, resonate throughout the entire world. four straight weeks of protests and a lot of activists tell manager here they're not
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planning on giving up. they're doing everything they can to keep up the momentum. this is about solidarity with their like minded activists colleagues in america, but it's always about also about trying to affect change here in in britain and throughout the world. you don't see the kind of police violence here as you do in the united states because british police are armed mostly with nonlethal weapons but they have tasers and sometimes they use those to lethal affect and that's what a lot of people have been protesting about but they've been make iing it clear that britain is not innocent. that this is a country steep nd a racist past a lot like the united states and we can see it. they've just dubbed this monument here last week with the words racist under it. still a lot of anger here. >> indeed. thank you so much from london. the president could certainly not escape the protests last night as he spoke inside, a rallying cry for black lives matter echoed outside the
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box center in tulsa. a movement with such stamina that the protests had been consistently going strong for nearly a month with no signs of letting up. a new article in "rolling stone" explores the power of the black lives matter movement. where it was built and where it goes next. joining me now is the author, a senior writer for "rolling stone." your article was tas nate ifasc. goes back to the birth of the black lives matter movement seven years ago an the three women who made it happen. tell us about that. >> yes, thank you for having me. it was really important for us in this particular moment in the movement to look back at the three women who started the movement. and really helped us understand why it was to so important to start at that r very basic demand. so start saying black lives mat r matter. it matters to say that these
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folks are demanding the very, very basic thing in public safety. saying we deserve to survive, to live. from there, they have raise d te floor to now where people are demanding the defunding of the police departments. [ inaudible ] of law enforcement within our society. >> you know, in this article, you write that black lives matter going mainstream helps the movement up its demands. if america accepts that black lives are threatened, we have to then talk about what and who is threatening them. can you explain by what you mean by mainstream and how that has helped the push for equality? >> corporations who seven years ago when you know she first introduced the term after the acquittal of george zimmerman.
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i think these corporations wouldn't have gone near the term black lives matter. she says corporations would not go near it. now, we see corporations putting it in their viral instagram posts. we see black lives matter being painted on the street. [ inaudible ] of streets in america. washington, d.c. new york city. all throughout the country. and it matters that you know, mainstream you know cities and corporations are able to embrace this. as i mentioned in the article, it matters that we build a country where these corporations which are still led by white folks are not the ones what we're depending on to elevate these cdemands. >> yeah, yeah. and you actually talk about the media and the media's role in the black lives matter movement.
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how that has evolved. what do you think changed? if you can be specific on that and brought on that change. >> yes. i think the media fortunately, listen, i think a lot of us in the press are inclined to look at both side of f the issue. and i think to some -- [ inaudible ] i think what we needed to do here is you know rather than saying paying so much attention to the folks who say black lives matter isn't a terrorist group, we need to take more seriously the folks who are building a movement and less seriously, the people who are simply in trying to instigate far right lives and what have you. we need to be more disearning. useful, critical thinking in our coverage and simply what we have been doing of late is understanding i think a little bit what the movement actually is. it's an organization, this is the place, the organization has
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13 chapters in america and three in canada. it's not simply a phrase. not simply being twisted and turned. we have a lot more fact checking now. a lot more discerning eyes now and frankly, the lies are a lot harder to -- [ inaudible ] the bs you could say. >> jameel smith, thank you for your time with me. appreciate that. new york reaches a major milestone on the road to recovery from the pandemic. up next, what that means for hundreds of thousands of people waiting to return to work. waiting to return to work. if your child doesn't seem themself at times, they may not be hydrated enough. wabba wabba! all new, plant powered creative roots gives kids
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cases in the u.s. are on the rise. more than 300,000 were reported nationwide on friday. the highest daily increase since may 1st. a doctor from johns hopkins says this virus is not going anywhere. >> it's not fading away. the u.s. has more cases than it's had in many, many weeks. not going away. it's not fading away in the world. 70 or 80 countries where the virus is on the rise. it's a serious, serious pandemic. we are in a few phase of intensity. >> in arizona, a line of cars over a mile long waying to get a coronavirus test on saturday. reporting more than 30,000 new
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cases for the second day in a row. d.l. hughley announced he has coronavirus. he did it via twitter video to his fans. it comes after he collapsed at a performance on friday. he was treat ed at a hospital fr dehydration. he says he's doing just fine and has not experienced any of the typical symptoms and here in new york city, once the epicenter of the virus, it allowed more businesses to operate tomorrow as it enters phase two of -- reopening. that includes hair salons and barbershops, outdoor dining, some offices and indoor retail. so to talk more about that, i'm joined by corey right in the heart of new york city. there's a lot going on in prep for tomorrow like what? what have you found out? >> hey, guys. yeah, good afternoon to you. we have seen so much more activity out here now. we're seeing businesses, one of the big preps for restaurants are is going to be opening up their restaurants, airing out
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the stale air and getting out their tables which we're see in at the end of the block. this neighborhood in particular has a mix between the restaurant, barbershops and other offices. we've seen a lot more people coming out today and businesses getting ready for tomorrow. we've positioned ourselves in front of this police blockade because we wanted to show you. what it looks like is police are intent on blocking off this street tomorrow to allow for businesses to expand. they say right now, they're not sure if they're going to be able to expand into the street with the tables but for sure they'll be on the sidewalks and i spoke some of the local businesses about their preps and reopening. take a listen. >> definitely. delivery and takeout will never be enough to support a restaurant, especially in new york city, where every restaurant is probably more expensive than anywhere else. >> people tried to make rez
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rations so we think it's going to be wonderful. >> thank god we had help with the ppp money so that has really sustained us through u this slower time and it's, it's just going to, we're just going to look forward to having people back at capacity. >> so one of the main things that both restaurant owners told me is this has been really difficult. they can't just rely on delivery and takeout. of course new york strong, they are going to keep it going. so tomorrow, they've laid out these tape pieces here just to see what that measurement looks like so each one is as six feet and they're able to kind of educationxpand it as long as tha walking path for consumers to still be able to get through. they're able to fit about a dozen or so tables. so restaurants are trying to fit in as much they can, but also trying to stay safe. they've got masks they're requiring. hand sanitizer. they've gone so far as to make
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sure they're doing temperature checks for think checks their employees and uv light at some restaurants. they're taking all of the precautions to make sure there's no black sliding here. the infection rate is e maining under 1% and the governor said he hopes that continues as we get into phase two and if you're wondering, phase three is when we could have indoor dining. couple more weeks, guys. >> you've answered everything for us. i've got no questions. thank you so much for all of f that. zblncht president trump is boasting again about all he's done for african-americans. who all is buying that? e's done for african-americans who all is buying that and still going for my best. even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib... ...not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin, i'm reaching for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both.
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biden has done in 47 year. racial justice begins with joe biden's retirement from public li life. >> the president clearly taking aim at joe biden. the comments come more than a week since he said he's done more for the black community since abraham lincoln. >> governor, good to have you on the broadcast. i know you have endorsed joe biden for president. do you have any thoughts you have to share? >> first of all, thank you for having me, alex. it's good to be with you. donald trump is offensive, period. he's offensive to black people. to make a statement like that when the racism he espouses both directly and covertly underneath all of the rhetoric of his entire policy agenda that's been dangerous and destructive for black people, his covid-19
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response, the racial disparities that have been brought to bear on covid-19, this is the latest example. for him to attack joe biden, a friend to the african-american community, a supporter of black people across this country, someone whose policies going forward makes provisions for black people to have a path to equitable access to success, is incredibly offensive, but i think this shows how out of touch he is with the truth. >> let's look at some of the latest polls from your state of michigan there. we have joe biden leading donald trump by two points, the president narrowly won michigan in 2016, has the mood changed there, lt. governor? will michigan vote blue? >> i think they will vote blue. governor gretchen whit mer and i
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won michigan by ten points. donald trump won in 2016 by only 10,704 votes. that movement was built by democrats across the state of michigan, all counties coming together, working together, calling people, having conversations. that work has not stopped since 2018. we're still able to contact voters because of the door knocking that we did in 2019. i think that makes a big difference to make sure that voters turn out, that they note how to vote safely by mail, in 2018 voters made it a still amendment to make -- something, by the way, that donald trump has -- safe voting, even though he votes by mail himself. his press secretary votes by mail. the disconnection with reality, and the dangerous rhetoric and policies is indefensible. >> let me just ask you, on this
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father's day, there was a column in "the detroit free press" that said as black fathers have the talk with their kids, the best message is, just live. i know you have three little ones. what do you want to tell them when it comes time to have the talk with them? do you hope what you have to say to them is what you might ha-- t from what you might have said yesterday. >> i aspire for the day that black parents have to have the talk. i group up the first half of my childhood in detroit, michigan, and my family moved to farmenton. i was only one of six people in my graduating class who was black. i got pulled over when i was 16, going 24 in a 25, with a backpack on my front seat and aggressively questioned by a police officer who wanted to know why i was two blocks away
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from high high school. it's just something that should not happen in america. we can be the generation. we have the opportunity to end this practice of discrimination, and policing and deliver public saflt for people in a way that we can all feelings regardless of our ethnicity, regardless of where we live, regardless of who we love. i believe this movement is ready to make that happen. i believe joe biden is the standardbearer to brings that future and that new reality, so when i talk to my children about public safety, it's about how we invest in their dreams, have a chance for success, so when my little girl, who was born one year ago, when she turns 18,s she knows there will be nothing standing in between her and her success. that's the future we're trying to put forward. >> on the heels of that, i wish you a happy father's day, and i know your charming mother is very proud of you. thank you so much. >> thank you, alex.
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fire geoffry berman, the u.s. attorney in manhattan. the president, when asked, said he was not involved and the decision was up to the attorney general. this was the main subject on talk shows. >> billing barr assist repeatedly demonstrated he's more interested in being donald trump's personal attorney. >> everyone in the doj works at the pleasure of the president. the president said to erdogan at one point, those prosecutors are obama people. wait until i. we have a number of developing stories at this hour. we're going to tackle them,
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beginning at the white house. peter navarro accusing china of creating the coronavirus. let's go to my colleague josh letterman. i know both you and our colleague kristin welker asked navarro about this. tell us more. >> reporter: his comments are eight tracks a lot of tapings to this idea that china ha intentionally manufactured this virus, the intelligence community saying from awful evidence, this is a virus that has evolved organically. we were particularly interested to hear peter navarro taking a different attack, suggesting that this is something that china may have done intentionally. china created this pandemic. they hid the virus, they created that virus, and they sent over hundreds of thousands of chinese
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citizens here to spread that around and around the world. whether they did that on purpose, that's an open question, but that's a fact. >> reporter: it's not an open question, again, according to the u.s. intelligence community. peter navarro there making a point specifically having to do with airlines, saying that because china had shut down domestic travel on airlines within the country, but had allowed international flights to continue to leave china during the pandemic, that essential the communist party of china had seeded other parts of the world with the coronavirus. some controversial comments that illustrate the way the white house really wants to make sure that americans are ascribing blame to china for the pandemic, as we get closer to the election. >> okay, josh, thank you for the setup. we'll go from there to the fallout on this standoff between the trump administration and geoffry berman, the u.s. attorney for the southern
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district of new york. he has agreed to step down after first resisting his owns ouster. good to see you. talk about what's happening here. what is the reasoning behind all of this? >> this is no reason, the fire was without caught. this is another water is wet headline that trump is now trying to oust a person that isn't in line with his personal interests, and who is doing his personal bidding? that's william barr. the way that they rolled this out, this firing, was so incredibly tacky and unprofessional and not legal in the way they unrolled. this was a person that was u.s. attorney for the southern district since 2018. he was appointed by jeff sessions. that was to act as an interim u.s. attorney for that district. once that 120-day interim
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sireded expired, a district court in that district appointed berman to that position on a permanent basis. the court order stated he would be the u.s. attorney under that vacancy was filled. what bill barr did was tried to get berming to resign. if they had legal grounds to remove him, why not take that route? they didn't do that. they came out with a story that he was going to step down, berman said that wasn't true and he was adamant for staying in that position until the senate confirmed the president's nominee. we've seen this time and time again. trump only cares about putting people in positions of power that will push his personal interests and not it is the interests of the american people. >> is it fair to say the
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department of justice was not following the law in this regard with the removal of mr. berman? is does that make sense to say it that way? >> maybe not following the law. however, they have proper ways of executing this, i guess is my point. the president obviously has the power to remove a u.s. attorney. why was that just not the case? you had trump coming out say he had absolutely nothing to do with this decision and he put it on barr. barr said no, trump is the one who actually did the firing. which is it? obviously both people aren't telling the truth. obviously federal law does allow a president to remove a u.s. attorney. it's the way -- >> but it has to be done properly, right? there had to be a replacement named and put into place, which is what gberman was pushing bac on friday night. >> correct. bill barr was trying to get the
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u.s. attorney in jersey to be the interim, and that was improper. it was only made when it was clear that a u.s. attorney in the southern district, who works underneath berman was going to be the acting interim u.s. attorney, that's when he felt everything would have been okay. he's trying to bring some peace to that office as well we've seen this time and time again where officials are notified of their firing by a press release and not in person. this is without cause. obviously bill barr is trying to say that he no longer serves this purpose in that and this is why he's being removed but how so when he tried to give berman another position? >> that was my next question. he was allegedly offering another position as chairman of the s.e.c., rather, broadband to be an assistant attorney
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general. >> right. so all you can come to a conclusion is, under berman's watch as the u.s. attorney in the southern district, they prosecuted trump's former attorney michael cohen. they're still vasting roy rye who we know is trump's close confida confidant. they also indicted jewgiuliani' contact. when you're offering them positions in the doj, yet you're going to remove them from the position in the southern district, who are investigating the trump campaign, so yes, it doesn't pass the smell test. >> thank you for getting us through all of that. appreciate it. another big headline we are watching this hour. trump rallies in red state america and faces a sea of empty blue seats. thousands of empty seats for the president's first rally in months.
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joining me is jeff mason, and daniel stroud, senior political reporter at "the guardian." so this campaign had been touting the rally's rsvp numbers for days. how disappointing is it to see the significantly lower number. the number was almost 6200, and i believe the arena holds about 19,000. >> that's right, alex. the arena does hold 19,000. to answer your question, it was a blow. a blow to the campaign, a blow to the president. you can't feel it. i was there last night, and very unusually president trump said, when rating his own speech, he was only given an average speech. i think that was, in part, because he missed the crowd. this is a businessman turned politici politician, who relishes 2350eding off energy of big crowds, who loves to boast about
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big crowds. on his way to oklahoma yesterday outside of the white house, he said it was like nothing anyone had ever seen, which is kind of his standard phrase, and then of course he got there and i can only imagine was disappointed. >> >> i should add we got that 6200 number from the tulsa fire department. what is the spin from the administration right now? >> crowd size has always been a big deal, as we were saying, to the president and the campaign, so they have to address it some way. you heard the president address it a bit without acknowledging there were a bunch of seat. he did complain that the media had discouraged people from coming. he also suggested there were protests outside that impacted the attendees' ability to get
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in. that's why an explanation why they needed to have a set of remarks to an overflow crowd that they prepped for and didn't have. >> daniel, what do you think about all of this? criticism certainly followed this rally even before it started, but the president did note address this in his speech, particularly on the juneteenth weekend. why do you think that is? >> from the beginning, the white house has really tried to contain the failures to acknowledge they scheduled a rally in oklahoma on juneteenth in a moment in american history where we're having a strong, serious discussion of race relations. they didn't know -- or they didn't realize the juneteenth holiday when they originally picked tulsa for this rally.
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it only came to their attention later on, and since then they haven't handled it well. the administration has yet to explain the very bankrupt march to the -- and i think the fact that president trump didn't address it was a silent acknowledgement that they don't have a handle on this. >> st. john's episcopal church you're referring to. >> yes. within the doj and the federal top prosecutor, who's leading the probe into some of the president's closest rudy g? you may have heard that i previous guest.
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>> we obviously don't know the facts, but there's definitely a reason why this didn't happen. the southern district of new york has been investigating trump's allies for a while. president trump wanted to give a favor to the president of turkey over, so this is just -- we've seen this before, an bankrupt firing of an administration official, and then later on we find out there was a very serious reason for that, that there is a sense that an investigation was pending, that someone was on the chopping block of the office or the watchdog. i think that might be what is going on here >> what about your assessment of the situation? >> you know, i think what strikes me is just that it's been, as you said, a rough week politically for the president, which has capped off by the fact that the rally didn't go as well as he would have liked, and no doubt the attention on this
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firing is not necessarily a story that's welcome to the white house, so they must have anticipated coming, particularly with the roll-out on a friday night like they did. but it is, in terms of the narrative of the president going into his effort to be reelected in november, the narrative is not po of for this president. on the issues of race, meaning last night. he doubled down on his criticism of protests in particular complaining about statues being taken down, many of which are related to the fed rae, also use the term "kung flu" to discuss the virus. so nini cany criticism, that continues ton a vulnerability for the president. >> good to talk with both of you.
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back to tulsa, where last night black lives matter protesters and support orr squared off. calip cal perry was there. >> reporter: the police have totally withdrawn, they were nowhere to be found. they moved in in force. they sounded like they fired some of those pepper rounds. people started running down the street. they slowly made their way back. now that's happened is a long line of police cars as far as i can see. it's not clear who they're separating out, still not clear what the popping sounds though i'm 99% sure it was the perper ball rounds. that fleshed people down the street and now police have moved back. he's going to join me now.
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cal, welcome to you. wh what stood out most? did things get pretty hot or was it manageable? >> it was manageable. i think we also found a break at the moment that the they inevitably run into -- towards the end every the campaign against donald trump, it was always the moment against -- the black lives matter propesters were doing loops around the arena. and they would come and verbally confront the trump supporters. it's clear that the police timed their action for when those folks were leaving the arena and they were able to quickly disperse things. the other then is that protest moved to greenwood. about 11:00, midnight. move to greenwood and like a block party ensued. i would worry about future
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dining, and opening of salons and barber shops. comedian d.l. hughley announced he has tested positive for the coronavirus. it comes after he collapsed during a performance friday. hughley says he's doing fine and has experienced any of the typical symptoms. and a mile-long line of cars waiting for tests in arizona. and in florida, where most businesses have been open for a month, cases are on the rise. the state broke its single-day report for new cases for a third day in a row, adding more than 4,000 cases yesterday. governor desantis says more people in their 20s and 30s are now contracting that virus. like florida and arizona, north carolina has seen a recent surge, starting to overwhelm the state's hospital system. another 1,412 cases today,
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bringing the total to over 52,000. rural hospitals are coping with these surges. jordan, i know the state is hitting record numbers now, what is that doing to the hospital system? >> reporter: that's right, alex, i want to zero in on how this hospitalization surge is impacting local communities in small hospitals like the one behind me. now, north carolina saw an all-time high in hospitalization numbers just yesterday. that number currently stats at 871. here in surrey cows, the overall number continues to right. my father is a doctors here at this hospital, and i spoke to an emergency room doctor, and take a listen. >> just having ten icu beds is a big constraint. our county has about 75,000 residents in it, and mount airy,
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the city we are in house being half of that residency. to have only ten icu portland as a standard operation is a tight budget to begin with. so having adequate resources is my biggest constraint we've had during the entirety of this. >> reporter: alex, i also want to highing something else that the doctor brought up. he says a lot of times 35ish9s come to the hospital in crill cal condition, more care that this hospital can provide and they need to be shipped elsewhere, but because of the pressure covid has placed on homes statewide, it's becoming increasingly harder for doctors to find open beds. he says for the first time this week he had a trauma patient who came in and he had to wait two days before being shipped elsewhere in the state.
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>> wow, that's rough. thank you, george. so joining me right now, msnbc contributor dr. libby royal. we have talked about the spikes, but they're happening across the country. they're continuing to set daily report highs. the u.s. itself added more cases this friday than it has since the beginning of the month. how concerned are you about this? and what's going wrong in those states? >> good afternoon. this is very concerning. the virus itself has not really changed. it has its own agenda and will affect anybody it wants to. we're creating an environment for the virus to thrive. it's going to thrive in people congaiting, close together, where they're not covering their faces and people are transmitting the virus. and unfortunately we're seeing the rises happening in cities and counties, states where they have either relaxed their
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stay-at-home measures, or never implemented it to begin with. and it's deeply concerning from a health care standpoint. >> i bet. what about new york city? you know it's heading into phase two. there will be an allowance for outdoor dining. do you think new york city can avoid the same kind of spice in cases? if so, how do you do it? >> really great question. 9 short answer is time will tell. the key here is so businesses can safely reopen as long as they implement the public health measures, keeping the distance, making sure that areas are wiped down, surfaces are wiped down, that people wear masks, sos protect not only the employees, but customers. practice those measures and hopefully we won't see a rise in cases. remember, new york city and new york state, as you know, winter through a hellish period. the nurses, the doctors, just overwhelmed with patients. we want to make sure we avoid
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that, so new york -- we do not want to become victims of our own success. >> as we look at what happened last night in tulsa, attendees were not required to wear masks, most did not wear masks even though they were handed out by the campaign. is there a chance we will see it and categorizes it after the fact as a super spreader event? >> the good news to me from a public health point is that the arena was not packed. >> that is a good point. >> i know for political reasons people are happy about that, depending on what point you come from, but there were fewer people at risk, but of the 6,000-plus people, from the footage, i did not see any physical distancing, nor did i see anybody wearing a mask. we know this event will have at least maybe 20, 30, 40 people
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who will be super spreaders, which means they'll spread it not just to one or two people, but to 30, 40 people and those individuals will go back to their communities, which by the way, isn't just tulsa, but the entire state of oklahoma, and spread the virus to people who wisely did not come to the rally. that's what i'm deeply concerned about. the burden it's going to play on local hoops. >> and i should also point out you're nbc correspondents on the ground said there were people from all over the country. let's talk about the six white house campaign staffers, as they were described, they spent about a week or so in tulsa in advance of this rally, two of whom are secret service employees. how concerned should the white house about he about this and keeping the president health,? >> what we know is the people that work there are not immune to the virus.
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what it's telling me, though, alex d. and i believe two of them were secret service agents, who are hired to protect the president who himself does not wear a mask, thereby putting at risk the very people hired to protect him. i mean, you have to lead by example, alex. our president, our vice president, or elected officials are not lead i by example. this is why you have mixed messages perceived by people all over the country. it's flackbbergasteing from a public health statement. we'll have more, next. heal. we'll have more, next. thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- metastatic breast cancer,
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. the city of brotherly love beginning to reopen this week. 43% of philly's population is black. only 2.5% of its businesses, though, are black owned. those owners have been hit hardest by both the pandemic and looting from recent protests. let's go to my colleague in philadelphia with that story. look, moira, i know you've been reporting for weeks now, what have been hearing about all of this? >> good afternoon, alex. you can see the storefrond from those protests that happened
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three weeks ago, and just before that happened, business owners found out they could reopen after being closed several months due to coronavirus, and several black business owners i talked to talked about the struggle of balancing on one hand they understand the frustration, but think also are bearing the brunt of the costs of damages they experiences at these businesses. so they're talking about -- steve jamison told me maybe that's hi cost to bear to get the conversation moving forward. so when i spoke to some business owner, you'll meet steve jamison and crystal jackson here who told me about their anxiety moving forward. >> very, very nerve sow. because right now we're in a stage where people want to support, people want to see positive things, everyone wants to help, but what happens the month after that?
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will this momentum keep going? i don't know. if it don't, then we have some decisions to make. are we going to be able to stay afloat and stay here? >> probably the greatest support from the community has to take place, has to -- from the city government, local government, has to take place. financial support has to take place. we have to support one another. we have to listen to one another, otherwise we're bound to repeat the same thing over and over and over again. it's unnecessary. >> reporter: so like you heard steve say, he wants to make sure this is the last time these conversations are happening, this violence and unrest happens. the city of philadelphia is putting forward initiatives to hem black and brown businesses that suffered damages from the looting, but this has been a systemic problem over generations, because a lot of black-owned businesses doesn't have as much access to capital
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or loans. so they're looking forward to replicate over future years to change the disparity in that statistic. >> holding a lot of good thoughts that that happens. thank you, maura. a look at the juneteenth demonstrations. they marked this day in 1865 when slaves in texas were finally freed, two and a half years after the emancipation proclamation and two months after the confederacy surrendered. my next guest wrote an op-ed that it is a reminder that freedom wasn't just handed over. she's in her hometown of grand prairie, texas. >> and howard raines joins me. he won a pulitzer prize about
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coming to age in birmingham. do you get a sense over time that the wider understanding of juneteenth had been somehow separated from slavery, the reason for the holiday in the first place. >> for sure. i believe it was only celebrated in texas so heavily. i realize when i moved to new york, i realized a lot of my peers and friends never heard of juneteenth before. even some friends in texas as well had never heard of it. when you do mention this holiday, you can't recognize it without recognizing the significance and relationship it has with texas, given that is the why juneteenth even exists. >> how did you celebrate? >> this user we didn't celebrate as we typically would. we would typically go to a park
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or parade, but because of covid and taking the safety precautions, we decided to do a small, condensed family gathering. >> that sounds fun. howard, i want to bring you in here. your early journalism career was in the south. are you optimistic some kind of american, a global awakening is under way this time around? >> i'm reminded of the early '60s leading up to the civil rights act and voting act, i think we're seeing a change in the thinking of white america in relation to the systemic racism in our legal system. now, i must say, though, as one who lived in atlanta for many years, one had to know the
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meaning of juneteenth and lift every voice and sing. obviously the president was not among those who knew about it. >> not certainly until he made the announcement this week that he educated all of us on that. your line, here's the quote -- in a red state where white supremacy groups still congregate and conphet rat flags still flying, it's an indicate that -- as influenced in a place that once delayed our emancipation. a ton of imagery there in are. how have african-americans been able to celebrate in what sounds like a really hostile environment? >> yeah. i feel in the past juneteenth, because it was very much only heavily celebrated among ourselves, i don't think it would have felt like such a
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hostile environment during that time. i think now especially given that there's a movement happening, at least speaking to some of my friends, some people didn't feel safe congregating this year for the holiday, because there's so much racial tension that's taking place, that we are seeing all across america. so i think at the same time, while driving through texas you sometimes will see confederate flags on the back of trucks or on graduation, and we're well aware that there are groups still congregating that are unhappy with us being here, it's is it ilmore important to remind ourself and our community that we have a history as well.
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these symbols have always been found offensive. why has this not been taken seriously before thousand? >> i think it's a conscience raising and generational change. at university of alabama, always a very conservative school, over 10,000 students have signed a petition to remove george wallace's name and replacing it with the first black student at auburn. so i think it's a movement whose consciousness whose time as come. i live part of thee in pennsylvania. i see more confederate flags and bumper stickers there than in alabama these days. so this is a moment of national significance, to say the least.
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>> howell, you bring of the voting rights act. what are you hope everly there will be significant permanent change now? >> i do think this is a watershed moment. i truly do. i likened it back to the '60s when we went through that as a nation. i took away from the event in tulsa last night, where only 7,000 or 8,000 people turned out, sending trump into a rage, that we as a nation are emerging from a period of magical thinking, where we ignore problems, wish them away. so i think this is a very promising moment for our country my experience growing up in the hey day of bull conner and george wallace, i'm not given to
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easy optimism, but i do think this is a moment in time. more alleged cases of the blue flu strike the atlanta police department. are the sickouts jeopardizing that city's security? jeopardiz that city's security no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card.
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tonight, alabama senator doug jones. he's prosecuted members of the kkk for the birmingham church bombing, and you'll hear more from him starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. more reports of atlanta police officers calling out six in responsibilities to the charge filed against the former officers involved in the killing of rayshard brooks. the mayor defended the charges
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of the officers this morning. >> we value our officers, but this continues to be about where we are in this country and making sure we don't have people who are part of our force who are not respectful of our communities. the loss rayshard brooks and his killing was a tragedy not just in the city but for the country as a whole. and i think that to the extent that there is an attempt to divide us from public safety in this country, i think it's very dangerous. but i also recognize that our communities are hurting, and our officers are hurting. >> joining me now, antawnio brown, atlanta ski councilman. there's been a lot of activity in the last couple days around this. first, the number of police callouts and it's because of the charges leveled against the two former police officers and the chief says yep, that's right. does that worry you right now, having fewer pd on duty and for
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this reason? >> it definitely worries me. the reality is right now what's important is that as a city, we come together. you know, we support the police. you know, we just introduced measures at our last full council meeting to insure that we're protecting the pay raises of these officers and insuring that they get what they deserve. but we also have to listen to the people. and we have to make sure that they are being heard through this process and that the officers in this city are doing their job to protect and serve them.antonio, there are 11 counts against garrett rolfe, including felony murder. are you worried prosecutorial overreach could harm the chances of a conviction and if there is no conviction, what worries you about that and the reaction within atlanta? >> well, you know, listen, we have been here before. how many officers, you know, we filed charges against and there's no conviction. i do believe district attorney
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paul howard has laid out a very reasonable case. and he was very detailed. he was very intentional about how he laid out this case before the public. i am -- i have faith that he has done his due diligence, so that when this does come from the court, we'll have justice. >> calls to defund the police have been echoing over the last few weeks, but just yesterday, the atlanta city council very narrowly voted down an ordinance that would have withheld $73 million of the department's budget there, a very close vote. i think it was 7-8. you voted to wroeld that money. what do you hope to see in mayor keisha lance bottom's plan to reinvent the culture of policing in atlanta and make it more of a national modfrl law el for law enforcement? >> i think atlanta is in a very unique place. we have an opportunity to create a model for the rest of the
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country to follow, a model that can truly reflect our ability to work with our local police and instituting a budget that is reflective of reimagining public safety. the vote yesterday was extremely disheartening. you know, we can't continue to be talking about the issues. chairwoman of our finance and exec committee put forth not just a resolution, but an actual amendment to the budget to move from money from a resolution to a trust fund until we reimagine public safety, and that was voted again. again, the people are not being heard. you can't speak to change you want to see in our city and state but your actions don't be a reflection of that change you seek, and you just pass a resolution but not actually the motion to move the funds into the trust fund account. >> so you think this is going to be revisited there among tcity council members? >> it has to be. we don't have a choice. this city is already erupting
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into chaos and confusion. i mean, we have to do what we were placed in these roles as servant leaders to do, which is to listen to the people. they can no longer be brought into the conversation and have a seat at the table. the people must be the table. >> antonio brown, keep us informed and we'll get back with you. meanwhile, that's a wrap for me. i'll see you next weekend. my colleague alicia menendez picks up the coverage at the top of the hour. she'll talk to the mayor of miami, florida, about the coronavirus spike in the state. before we go, i would like to wish a very happy father's day to all you dads out here, and here's a tribute to the fathers of our team members here on weekends with alex witt. have a good one, dads.
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strategy. >> plus, new details about the removal of the top federal prosecutor in manhattan. what he may have been investigating and how the president is involved. john bolton is talking about the president's influence on the doj and what he calls a pattern of obstruction. and there's a coronavirus spike in florida. the governor now says young adults should consider social distancing. i'll talk to the mayor of miami about what needs to be done to get it under control. we start in tulsa, oklahoma. where president trump kicked off his first campaign style rally since march. it was billed as a crowd reaching upwards of a million, but only about 6200 people actually turned out. and despite the widespread cultural unrest being felt all over the country right now, rather than offer a message of unity, president trump stuck to his usual divisive talking points. >> we will never kneel to our national anthem or our great american flag. you know
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