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>> plus, new details about the removal of the top federal prosecutor in manhattan. what he may have been investigating and how the president is involved. john bolton is talking about the president's influence on the doj and what he calls a pattern of obstruction. and there's a coronavirus spike in florida. the governor now says young adults should consider social distancing. i'll talk to the mayor of miami about what needs to be done to get it under control. we start in tulsa, oklahoma. where president trump kicked off his first campaign style rally since march. it was billed as a crowd reaching upwards of a million, but only about 6200 people actually turned out. and despite the widespread cultural unrest being felt all over the country right now, rather than offer a message of unity, president trump stuck to his usual divisive talking points. >> we will never kneel to our national anthem or our great american flag. you know, they don't sell a lot of bombs when we're not dropping
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bombs on people, you know that, right? i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. i got nicer properties. i got nicer houses, i got nicer apartments. i got nicer everything. >> nbc's cal perry is on the ground in tulsa and was there last night. first of all, happy father's day to you. let's talk about this rally. the campaign blames protesters and a heavy media presence for keeping the supporters away. what was going on outside of the arena. >> so there were three entrances that folks could go through as they went to this rally. five separate layers of security to go through. and for about 15 to maybe 30 minutes max, the protesters were able to get one of those entryways sort of shut. they shut it, police moved back the protesters and they were able to reopen the entryway. the police were facilitating people who wanted to go to the rally to do so. they were filtering them through, basically getting them down one sidewalk and then in.
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it's worth noting the black lives matter protesters moved on. they then started to move around the arena. a moving sort of march. tulsa police tweeted out they were doing so peacefully. the most they were doing was causing some traffic disruptions. when the president lanted, they reshut the gate and there was a large crowd waeting to get in. once he was on the ground, they reopened the gate, and anyone who wanted to get in, we saw was able to get in. so there was a slight delay, but the facts are, if you wanted to go to this rally last night in tulsa, you would have been able to do so, alicia. >> was there any social distancing that you were able to observe outside, inside the rally? >> no, i mean, look. just the nature of the crowd, whether it was 8,000, whether it was 10,000, in an enclosed area, obviously, very hard to social distance. you add to that the black lives matter protesters and the crowds were condensed in certain areas. there were verbal
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confrontations. this is something we saw four years ago towards the end of the campaign. there are these verbal confrontations. maybe one or two scuffles between black lives matter protesters and hardened side with megaphones. social distancing in those circumstances is difficult, if not impossible. >> cal, thank you. >> let's bring in nbc news national political reporter josh letterman, and political reporter meredith mcgraw. there were very high expectations set for last night. clearly, the crowd size came nowhere near what the trump administration had been talking about. what are they saying today? >> deny and deflect apiers to be the strategy from the white house and from president trump's re-election campaign, alicia. they're saying it's these protesters who blocked the rally goers from getting in, but as cal just laid out for you, anyone who wanted to get in, there was security there facilitating that. the other argument they're
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making is that it's the fault of the media. that scared people out of coming to this rally by discussing all the potential covid-19 risks from being in that environment. so we're not seeing a lot of acknowledgment from the campaign that they might have set the expectations too high and when it comes to having some 20,000 people inside that stadium and even more in an overflow crowd outside, that wasn't something that actually materialized when push came to shove last night. >> meredith, we all watched and there were incredible moments of absurdity, including the crowd cheering for him drinking a glass of water with one hand. what was the mood generally among folks inside the arena. >> well, i wasn't there, but i did watch the rally as it happened. and it did seem like there was excitement, but the fact that the arena space wasn't filled up
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and then also, there were some events that didn't even happen. the campaign had to push the rally back a day because it fell on juneteenth and the president heard criticism from his own advisers about the scheduling of that so it had to be rescheduled, and even before the president arrived, news broke that six of the campaign staffers had tested positive for the virus, and so even though the campaign wants to reset and the president is eager to get back out there on the trail, there are, of course, things that are lingering over all of this, and first and foremost is the virus. >> one of the more disturbing sidebars from last night was the president actually talking about slowing down testing for the coronavirus. take a listen. >> testing is a double-edged sword. we have tested now 25 million
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people. it's probably 20 million people more than anybody else. germany has done a lot. south korea has done a lot. they call me, they say the job you're doing -- here's the bad part. when you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, find more cases. so i said to my people, slow the testing down please. >> i said to my people, slow the testing down. first he takes credit for the testing that has already happened and then he says he wants to slow it down. what is his camp saying today? >> various advisers to the predare saying he didn't really mean it, with one saying the comment was made in jest. another describing it as a light moment in the rally, that it was a tongue in cheek remark. we should say for the some 2.3 million americans who have contracted coronavirus, it's not exactly a laughing matter, but i was reminded of something that
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happened back in march when we had that grand princess cruise ship that was docked off san francisco and a lot of sick people onboard looking to dis m disemba disembark, and the president ehe didn't want those passengers to come onshore because it would increase the number of positive coronavirus cases in the united states, so we know the president for many months have been keenly attuned to not allowing the number of covid numbers to go higher than he would like them to see. >> meredith, president trump using a racist term last night to talk about the coronavirus, and then this morning, you have white house trade adviser peter navarro accusing china of creating the virus. take a listen. >> china created this pandemic. they hid the virus. they created that virus. and they sent over hundreds of thousands of chinese citizens here to spread that around and around the world. whether they did that on purpose, that's an open question, but that's a fact. >> myriad investigations
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debunking this claim. also, we have watched how those racist comments have played out in our culture, in our society, what it has meant, the people it has put at risk. why does the president, why is his administration doubling down on this? >> well, the fact that a few months ago, cbs news reporter geungsaid they used the term kung flu, and one of the aides said she thought it was highly offensive. then last night, the president was on stage in front of his supporters using that term. and then, you know, with peter navar navarro, he's known as a china hardliner inside of the white house, but he's doubling down on his assertion that the chinese communist party likely played a role in perpetuating this virus, and there's not conclusive evidence. the u.s. intelligence community has said this virus is likely
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evolved naturally, but it didn't stop them from saying that, and without any sort of evidence to back up that claim. but last night at his rally, the president continued to throw red meat at his base. and even as he's having trouble in the polls, i think a lot of what he said was trying to appeal to his most fervent supporters instead of maybe trying to talk about the economy, unemployment, the virus, things on the minds of a lot of people from across the spectrum and people that he will need to win over if he looks to win in november. >> josh, to meredith's point, this was a moment where the president had an opportunity to talk about unity and instead we heard a lot of divisive rhetoric. what does that tell us about what we can expect to hear between now and november? >> anyone who was expecting the president would use ris re-election as a moment to try to bridge divides in the country
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probably hasn't been playing very close attention the last few years, but it speaks directly to the campaign's strategy and a calculation that they have made which is based on a lot of the numbers they're seeing, which is there's not a whole lot of persuadable voters who are deciding this year between joe biden and donald trump, and they feel that their best chances of getting the president re-elected are not to focus on the people in the middle but really to try to drive turnout up as high as possible among the president's core supporters, the people who got him elected in 2016. that's why you see the president in these campaign events stoking some of the culture wars in this way. >> all the mobilization strategy. josh and meredith, thank you both. turning now to north carolina where the state has seen a five-day surge in coronavirus cases. hospitalizations are on the rise, and for rural hospitals, it has been hard to keep up. nbc's jordan jackson in mt.
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arie, north carolina. how are the smaller hospitals handling the jump in cases? >> alicia, i really want to zero in on how the recent surge in hospitalizations is impacting local communities, small hospitals like the one behind me. north carolina reached an all-time high just yesterday of hospitalizations. 871 is the current number, and here where i am in surry county, the overall case counts just continue to climb. nigh dad is a doctor at this hospital, and it has ten icu beds. i spoke to an emergency room physician herier this morning who was treating covid patients and he told me a little bit about this hospital's capacity. >> just having ten icu beds is a big constraint. our county has about 75,000 residents in it, and mt. airy, there city we're in, houses about half of that residency. so to have only ten icu beds in standard operation is a tight
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budget to begin with. so having adequate resources is kind of my biggest constraint that we have had throughout the entirety of this. >> now, the doctor did tell me earlier that this hospital plans to expand its own capacity from ten icu beds to about 22 icu beds to accommodate as many patients as possible. alicia. >> jordan, how is north carolina governor roy cooper responding to this uptick in cases? >> right, so governor cooper is actually expected next week to make an announcement on whether the state will move into phase three or part three of its reopening plan. he's hinted, indicated he's not likely to move the state back, but he might implement mandatory face masks for all north carolina residents, and he's also said he's working with the vice president, vice president mike pence, to secure more funding for the state in order to increase north carolina's testing capacity. alicia. >> jordan, thank you so much.
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in the wake of protests and the covid pandemic, storefronts in philadelphia are reopening this weekend. the city put up new plans to help struggling black and brown-owned businesses get back on their feet. but business owners are worried city support is not enough. nbc's mara barrett is in the city center section of philadelphia. what are business owners looking for from city officials in terms of insuring they're not just able to stay afloat but they're able to thrive? >> alicia, you can see a lot of storefronts in philadelphia are still boarded up after that unrest and the protests three weeks ago, and business owners tell me it's going to take an effort in tandem from city officials and also their local community members in order to get their businesses back up and running. when you take a look nationally, with black business owners specifically, there's been a 40% decline of ownership because they have gone bankrupt or had to close their stores permanently because of the coronavirus pandemic, and so
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business owners here in philadelphia, there's a lot lower rate of black business owners despite the city's diversity, so they have anxiety about what their future looks like. i spoke with crystal jackson. she owns a boutique here in philadelphia, and she's been in business for over a dozen years and she has uneasiness about moving forward. i asked her what the future of her business looks like. take a listen. >> i'm very nervous, very, very nervous, because right now, we're in a stage where people want to support, people want to see positive things, so everyone wants to help. but what happens the month after that? will this momentum keep going? i don't know. and if it don't, we have some decisions to make. are we going to be able to stay afloat and stay here? >> so that's a portion of the community making sure they're going to black-owned businesses to make sure they can stay afloat is really key.
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crystal said something that is maybe my favorite new quote. she said don't skip the struggle because that's where you build character. that resilience is something i'm hearing over and over in the city. >> mara, thank you. still ahead, william barr's botched effort to remove the top prosecutor in manhattan. was the firing related to investigations targeting trump allies? plus, there's a coronavirus surge happening in florida. the state is setting record highs in new cases every day. i'll talk to the mayor of miami.
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afternoon. but the president now says that he was not involved in the firing. and that it was up to attorney general barr all along. for more on what's going on here, let's bring in hayes brown, host of the buzzfeed podcast news-o-clock, and betsy swan, msnbc contributor. betsy, why do you have barr and trump not singing from the same song book? >> it's a great question. i spent most of yesterday talking to people working in the justice department as well as other folks close to the department. and one of the big responses that i heard over and over was shock, just at the level of incompetence, with which this effort was rolled out. the fact that the attorney general of the united states said on the record that arguably kind of not arguably, inarguably, the most important u.s. attorney in this country had resigned from his position when actually he hadn't is something that was stunning to people. just because it's such an important announcement, such a
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massive piece of news, and the fact it was rolled out in this incredibly bungled way raised serious questions among people both inside and outside the department about how well organized the place is being run. that's not even talking about broader concerns that exist within the department as well about potentially potential political motives behind the removal of geoff berman. that said, one thing that's important to remember is barr and berman have an acrimonious relationship for quite some time. they haven't gotten along. there's been a lot of tension between them, and that frustration is not something that's new. >> well, betsy, stick with the point you were making there when you talk to folks inside the building about potential political motivations. what were the cases that berman was working on that are raising the most eyebrows? >> i think without question, the one that's drawn the most attention is the investigation the southern district has had that has reportedly been looking at rudy giuliani, president
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trump's top lawyer. there's very little reporting out of that investigation. it's not an undertaking that's been particularly leaky. it's not clear if there are any plans to indict rudy giuliani or to execute any sort of search warrants or subpoenas targeted at him, but it's clear it's something that has concerned many of the president's allies and appears to be a live issue. that said, geoff berman's replacement in this moment is really important. as of friday night, bill barr said the u.s. attorney for new jersey was going to be taking the job. he's a political appointee, widery respected, but somebody who trump put in place. however, after the dramatic arm wrestling we had, instead, the new temporary chief of that office is audrey strauss, who is not a political appointee. she's been a career prosecutor. she's viewed as very much down the line. geoff berman gave her her job. the fact she's at the helm
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significantly undercuts concerns this could have been a move designed to try to throw the president a political bone. >> hayes, i wonder what more you can tell us about strauss, about the way in which this replacement did roll out, about some of what betsy has already said about concerns over incompetence inside the building. where do you think this goes from here? >> so it's really interesting because even if you take the attorney general at face value and the only reason this is happening is because they wanted to move the securities exchange commissioner jay cleveland over into the role of new york, even if you take it at face value, this effort is a value because he will not be moving until the senate confirms him, and the ability to replace him, not happening. audrey is really an interesting person. she not only was a member of the investigative team that took on iran contra a few years --
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several decades back, she was also responsible for -- she's the one who has been in charge of the investigations into trump's businesses and campaign finances. so her being elevated really undercuts any strategic goal that i can see for barr trying to replace the southern district of new york attorney. >> betsy, on top of all this, you have trump former national security adviser john bolton speaking earlier about a conversation he overheard between turkish president erdogan and trump about berman and the southern district. >> the president said to erdogan at one point, look, those prosecutors in new york are obama people. wait until i get my people in. and then we'll take care of this. and i thought to myself, and i'm a department of justice aluminous myself, i have never heard any president say anything like that ever. >> betsy, it confirms a pattern we have seen time and time again
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about what the president believes the role of doj to be, the way in which he's comfortable using doj for political missions, and so i wonder, is there a sense of consequence? in a normer environment, this would be a huge story. congressional investigations, what happens now? >> that's a good question. we're going to have the house judiciary committee scrutinizing the removal of geoff berman, but in particular, this story line involving trump's relationship with erdogan is a really important piece of the foreign influence story as it relates to the trump administration. and one that to some extent has been rather overlooked in some cases. rudy giuliani, president trump's personal lawyer, did work for people very close to the erdogan administration. he was seen as somebody legally who was advocating for the interests of very senior erdogan allies and officials. that was part of the work he was doing when the southern district brought charges against the
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turkish gold trader related to violating sanctions against iran. there's been a lot of really fascinating reporting done on the extent to which giuliani and other trump world allies tried to sort of defang that prosecution. it's not an effort where they were successful, but they put a lot of work into it. now this case against the turkish bank that bolton talked about, is another really important one. the bank is being charged because of allegations regarding, again, iran sanctions busting. in most cases, the trump administration is extremely hawkish when it comes to iran. they're not an administration generally speaking that has pulled punches when it comes to sanctions on that country. however, when you have parties that are close to the erdogan government, parties with close allies in searier levels, suddenly, as bolton describes it, the tune from the president of the united states changes. that's unusual and something to
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keep an eye on. >> hayes and betsy, thank you both. >> up next, kentucky may be looking at a repeat of what we saw in georgia when they voted next week. i'll talk to a louisville councilwoman about the dire need for more polling places. >> plus, a rise in coronavirus cases in the sun belt. texas, florida, arizona, and those places see a lot of migrant workers in the summer months. what's being done to stop the spread and keep them safe. p the. if your child doesn't seem themself at times, they may not be hydrated enough. wabba wabba! all new, plant powered creative roots gives kids the hydration they need, with the fruit flavors they love, and 1 gram of sugar. find new creative roots in the kids' juice aisle. essential for sewing, but maybe not needles. for people with certain inflammatory conditions.
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in gardena, california, the family of an 18-year-old security guard is demanding an independent investigation after he was shot and killed by a los angeles county sheriff's deputy. he was working two jobs as a security guard, according to his family. he was working to protect an auto body shop on thursday night when he was confronted by police. in a statement, the sheriff's department said that the man produced a firearm and was not recognized as a security officer by the state. but his family disputes the
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claim he had a firearm on him. they say when he ran from the police, it was because he felt his life was in danger and had to run for his life. >> what was the freaking reason. i want to know what was the reason, because he was a good man. hao was going to make it in life. we're all dead already inside. what more do they want from us? >> we're two days away from the primary in kentucky. and election officials are worried about a potential election disaster due to a shortage in polling places. "the washington post" reports fewer than 200 voting locations will be open state-wide, down from more than 3,000. there's a particular concern in louisville's jefferson county with more than 600,000 people have to vote at a single polling place. also the county with the largest black population in the state. this week, a judge rejected a bipartisan effort to increase the number of polling places. joining me now is one of the lawmakers behind that lawsuit, louisville councilwoman keshia dorsey. what is your reaction to the
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judge's ruling? >> i'm appalled, but at this point, we're so late in the game, we decided not to file an appeal because we don't want to add to the further confusion of a system that has been quite confusing to start with. everything around the deadline to request an absentee ballot was the 23rd, but in many ways, we're looking at a population in west louisville that does not have 60% to 80% don't have access to internet, so even stating the deadline was the 23rd, we had to further clarify it had to be in the county clerk's office by the 23rd. so alicia, we're quite concerned about everything happening here regarding voting. not just the in-person voting on the 23rd, but the absentee process. >> in fact, i wanted to talk to you about mail-in ballots. reports that just a few days before the election, not everyone received theirs. is that still a concern leading
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into tuesday? >> very much so a concern. additionally, we have had reports of the coding being wrong. some of the democrats are receiving republican ballots and vice versa. not only not receiving them, but also having received the wrong ones, and what we're also anticipating is long lines at the post office. they have to be postmarked as of the day of the 23rd. and so are we anticipating like tax return type lines to get these ballots postmarked? so we're highly concerned about the entire process. >> you have lebron james jumping in on this conversation, tweeting out, kwoemequote, this systemic racism. end oppression. what do you say to black voters? >> i say stand up. i said for a long time, a lot of the issues we deal with here in louisville, kentucky, isn't just
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the covid-19 numbers in florida are soaring, and there are new concerns it could be the next epicenter. new cases have ticked up over the past three days to the state's highest level since the pandemic began. more than 4,000 just yesterday. florida was among the first states to reopen, beginning on may 4th, and cases have shot up through june. miami's mayor is sounding the a alarm, saying the city will not go into the next phase of reopening. mayor francis suarez joins me now. good to see you. tell me, when you look at these numbers what is your major concern? >> the numbers are just very alarming. if you think about when we ordered a stay at home order the high water mark was 1300 cases. you're showing a graphic that
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has it at 4,000 cases so it's more than three times that amount. just yesterday, miami-dade county, just one of the counties in the state of florida, we had 900 new cases. we're very close to the high water mark for the entire state. so that is a major concern. we're starting to see hospitalizations also go up. tomorrow, we're going to be hosting a press conference with mayors from a varieties of cities to start cracking down on those who are not following the rules and respecting the rules that have been promulgated. >> practically for you, what does it look like to slow down phase three of this reopening? >> what it looks like is we're not opening up bars. we're not opening up movie theaters, not opening up any sports, you know, entertainment venues that have large congregations of people. i understand that's upset some people that are bars and, you know, they get upset because they see the restaurants sometimes act as if they're bars. that's completely understandable. we have to crack down on the restaurants as well to make sure
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they're in compliance. and that's something we're doing and going to continue to do over the next few days. >> if people are upset about that, they're definitely going to be upset about the next question, which is are there leaders in florida considering another stay-at-home order? >> you know, i think what i have said all week is we can't take anything off the table. some of the numbers we're seeing are incredibly alarming. at the same time, we know that as effective as the stay-at-home orders were in curbing the increase, we're increasing our rate of 35 new cases a day when we implemented the stay at home order, we're decreasing our rate to 14 cases a day. we know it's effective, but it also devastated our economy. we went from full employment to having 40 million people unemployed, and not just those who are unemployed but those who are employed are working at 50%, 70% of their salary. the question then becomes how much can government do to sustain an economy when people are staying home.
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that's a challenge we have to look at. >> do you have a sense of the source of the surge that you're now seeing? >> what we're seeing as of last monday when we met with the department of health, and we're going to meet with them again tomorrow, is the large increase in cases is an age group of kwo18 to 35. a lot of times they're asymptomatic, but they can be transmitters, and that's the part that's scary. they can transmit it to older people in their family, which can lead to increase in hospitalization, ventilators, et cetera. the real concern with covid is once you start stressing your hospital systems, you start to see the death rate elevate from 3% which is what it had been traditionally in dade county, hopefully we don't see anything near what we have seen in other places like spain, italy, and new york. >> new york governor cuomo said he's considering imposing a quarantine of people traveling from florida to new york. take a listen.
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>> florida and other states imposed a quarantine on new yorkers. if you went to florida, you had to quarantine for two weeks because they were afraid that new yorkers were bringing the virus to their state. fast forward 100 days, now we're afraid they're bringing the virus to our state. >> mayor, is that a policy you would support? >> you know, what i said was more dramatic than that. what i said was we should stop flights from covid hot spots. that's something i have been calling for for a while. the president did it with respect to brazil. and obviously, hot spots throughout the country. and that's something that, you know, it's hard enough as a community to contain the virus within your own community. it's much, much harder when you have people traveling from other communities that are hot spots into your community. our mia, our miami international airport, normally carries 50 million people a year.
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even at 10% capacity, still 5 million people, which is almost twice the entire population of miami-dade county. it's very difficult to control all of the people coming into our city. in addition to a lot of people who are already here. >> all right, mayor suarez, thank you for spending part of your father's day with us. >> thank you, alicia. coming up, they're the start of america's food system. we're talking about the workers who pick the food that ends up on your table. and now, they're being asked to go to work in places where covid-19 is on the rise. so what's being done to keep them healthy and safe? that's next. my gums are irritated.
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while health experts have pushed the idea of flattening the curve, some states are now seeing the coronavirus spread faster than ever. you can see the dramatic increase in cases in several states this week. arizona, florida, and texas all setting single-day records.
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here's how florida's governor reacted to the surge in cases. >> you're expanding testing, which is important. but you're also going into now, which the state was not doing two months months ago, into high-risk environments. long-term care we, but when you look at, like, these farm workers and migrant workers, they're also looking at construction workers and other types of day laborers and finding these are overwhelmingly hispanic workers. some of these guys they go to work in a school bus and they're all just, like, packed there like sardines. >> bring in organizer and founder justice for migrant women and actor nicholas gonzalez spoke persson for the farm workers campaign. thank you both for being here. monica, first, your response to what the governor just said in that sound clip? >> first of all, the governor should not be surprised farm workers are getting covid. we've been telling the governor
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as have others on the ground in florida farm workers were at risk for covid. but people with the florida department of agriculture and the health department are actually disputing his claim that the rates are rising because of farm workers. many farc workers are actually en route to other places across the country. the new numbers coming in with the covid outbreak they're saying it can't be because of farm workers, because many farm workers are moving to other places in the country. >> nick, what type of protection do these farm workers need in order to be able to do their job, to do it safely and to keep their families safe? >> i just want to second the surprise is so surprising to watch and eastern know farm workers are composed of primarily and probably only latino workers. that's, it's just a surprising thing to hear when we've been warning them over three months now, but there's even just the
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bakes from masks which we've been working on, to distancing, social distancing that they're not even allowed to do while harvesting crops. we're not even talking about the transportation, which you heard the governor bring up, squeezed on to buses. we need social distancing on transport and in living conditions. we're living 15 to 20 people per households and it becomes very difficult, but this is a problem even before the pandemic. now it's even more important, and they haven't really been listening to the call although we have been getting a lot of support we're passing on, of course to the rural clinics as well as to the farc worke directly. >> something you said. this is the season a lot of migrant farm workers move to find work, in order to be able to continue to contribute to the food supply. what risks does that pose, not only to them, but to their communities? >> well what we're seeing is
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that as farm workers are moving, some are moving and they are ill. and when they are arriving in communities where they're working, we're seeing large outbreaks taking place. you know, there were farm workers who moved now from florida, moving into georgia, to north carolina and other places and some in of those states we're seeing numbers rise there as well. so the farm workers are, some who are asymptomatic have been exposed to other people working alongside them who have been ill. they are now starting to show some of the signs. we're seeing in places like tennessee where guest workers were brought in to work in tennessee, all 200 workers in one farm tested positive for covid-19. what we have been saying to governors, like the governor in florida, and the governor in ohio, where i am living and located, that this problem is going to continue to become a national crisis if there are not the right measures put in place
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and it isn't just a crisis for farm workers themselves. it's a crisis for our food supply chain, a crisis for the people who live in the rural communities and something has to be done now. something should have been done months ago. the governor of florida did not heed the call, unlike the governor of california and the governor in oregon, and if people do not take measures immediately, we are going to continue to see those numbers rise. we will see more farm workers getting sick and fourrtunately e more farm workers dieing. >> nick, pick up on the point about the fact this threaten s not only individuals part of this but potentially america's whole food supply chain. when does that become reality and what are you asking people to do to step up and address the challenge? >> it's already such a reality. we're already seeing clinics that have had to close. there's been no medical care a lot of times, and a lot of the migrant farmers aren't even told if they are positive, in the
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rare, in cases that their e tested. they're really seeing a workforce we can just use and throw out and bring someone else in and that's where all the fear comes in trying to speak out about a lot of these issues. what people can do is, please, donate to justice for farm worker women. i think -- what is the, our link, monica? sorry, justice for migrant women? dot org? >> it's justice4rwomen.org. >> yes. that, again is going from everything from supplying these rural clinics to literally masks and ppe for farm workers and medical professionals. >> of course. one of the biggest issues has been testing. more than 100 days of this pandemic and just this week the first testing site opened in the tampa area farming town. monica what has access to testing been like for most of these farm workers?
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>> farm workers are not being tested. one issue, when they are tested it's difficult to get the results to the farm workers to let them know whether or not they have the virus, because they're not -- the medical providers are not tracking the right information to be able to get back in touch with them, or because the farm workers moved on to do work in other places. there's a lot of fear. farm workers are afraid their information will be turned over to immigration or other law enforcement officials, but the reality is that it's just too late for some of these states to just now be testing in rural communities. i live in a rural community and was sick nearly two moss andnthi couldn't get tested and consider myself with a lot of access. imagine the situation for farm workers where no one is going to their camps to test them. >> happy father's day, nick, thank you. that wraps it up for us. my colleague picks up coverage top of the hour speaking to a
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