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be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." president trump rallies in tulsa over the weekend and was reportedly left fuming over the smaller than expected crowd. also, coronavirus cases on the rise here in the united states, and president trump is drawing criticism for a comment about slowing down testing. >> and after a standoff with the attorney general, the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york who has been overseeing investigation into some of of trump's associates is stepping down. good monday morning, everybody. it is june 122nd, and i'm yasmin
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vossoughian. we've got a lot to cover this morning. a lot happening over the weekend. we're going to begin with the president's rally in tulsa over the weekend. the first time back on the campaign trail since march 2nd. in one stunning moment, he told the mostly unmasked crowd of supporters that he wanted to slow down testing. >> testing is a double-edged sword. we've tested now 25 million peop people. it's more than germany and others. here's the bad part. when you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people. you're going to find more cases. so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. >> so those remarks come as
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coronavirus continues to spread across the united states. according to data tracked by the "washington post," 29 states and u.s. territories reported a higher seven-day average than they did on june 14th. the world health organization also reported the largest single-day increase in coronavirus cases. the u.n. health agency said brazil led the way with nearly 55,000 cases tallied, and the u.s. was next with more than 36,000. meanwhile the trump white house is trying to clean up the president's remarks about testing. a senior white house official telling nbc news that, trump, quote, was clearly speaking in jest to call out the coverage of the spandemic. here's what other officials had to say. >> come on. that was tongue-in-cheek. >> please that i don't know that it was tongue-in-cheek. >> that's news.
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>> you said similar things for months. >> i think testing is a very serious issue. >> i work on it every day. >> you're the one who said -- >> come on. it was a light moment. >> you said it was tongue-in-cheek. >> we're 60 seconds into the tongue-in-cheek thing. asked and answered. >> the president telling officials to slow down testing as it relates to coronavirus. >> zberng i heard those comments as well. i think what you heard from the president was frustration. frustration in the sense that we're testing -- i believe we've. ed over 25 million americans. we've tested more than any other country in this world. instead, the press and others, all they want to focus on is an increasing case count, and we know that's going to occur when you test individuals more and more and more. >> so because of that rally, the president was left fuming over the smaller than expected crowds at his oklahoma rally over the weekend. upon his arrival on "air force one," trump was, quote, furious
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and elated over his aides and sparse crowds. the president was stunned and continued to yell at aides backstage while looking at the endless rows of empty seats. two white house and campaign officials telling the "associated press" he was upset that he was led to believe he would see huge crowds in a deep red oklahoma. officials noted although there was no sign of an imminent staff shakeup, he don't know how senior aides could so widely overpromise and underdeliver. "the new york times" called it a disaster and an unforced error that heightened tensions among some of the president's
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government advisers and his campaign aides. in florida, nearly 3,100 cases were added,usualing it to over 97,000. according to the cdc, the cases have more than doubled in the past few days. ron desantis announced plans to step up enforcement of social distancing practices in bars and nightclubs in that state. according to politico, desantis says the immense uptick cannot be explained away by increased testing. he said those testing positive is accelerating faster than those being tested which means there's transmission within those communities. >> and as coronavirus cases continue to spiral, there was a warning it can overtake health
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systems if not handled. >> they never got rid of their epidem epidemics. now we're seeing significant outbreaks on top of the spread that was quite high. as they've reopened, the spread has continued to increase. a challenge that was facing some regions of the country is facing every region in the country. the worry is they're going to tip over into exponential growth in the coming week because the cases are growing quite quickly in texas, florida, alabama, north carolina, s and arizona. the challenge is everything looks okay until suddenly it doesn't. so this is something that has to be a concern of everyone that's been watching this. >> all right. let's get into this a bit. joining us this morning is emily larsen. great to see you. thanks for joining us this early. let's talk about that now notorious sound bike at the rally. the president was saying he eventually wants to slow down
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testing because so many positive cases are being identified. what has been the reaction here in washington on capitol hill to those remarks? >> oh, good morning, yasmin. they're unsettled. i think republicans are realizing joe biden's campaign is already using this as a campaign tool. he's put out additional video responding to this comment saying we need to be increasing testing, not slowing it down, and the explanation that this was a joke from president, while he didn't say it with sort of a light tone, i don't think there there are many people who think this was a legitimate -- a 100% joke. this is something he has been saying for months. he likes to cytolow unemployment
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numbers, low other numbers, so this is another metric for him to point at. if you increase testing, you increase the number of cases. so it was a strange comment to make, and joe biden is certainly going to try and be the opposite of president trump and use this as a campaign tool. >> it certainly was a strange comment and quite nonsensical comment to make as well. let's talk about the president's vulnerabilities, especially the vulnerabilities revealed at this tulsa rally. we had rows and rows if you look in the upper tier of the stadium empty seats at the rally. the president was hoping for a huge turnout. there could have been social distancing at the rally if they had known all of those empty seats would have been there. you have the president heading into the election and they have continuously denied what they have been seeing in the national
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polls which has joe biden leading in many swing states and national polls. what does this mean not only for the president and for his re-election in november, but also for brad parscale, the campaign manager and his position? >> i think the clearer sign of this lower than expected turnout for the trump campaign is this isn't 2016. the trump campaign has been trying to run the same type of campaign focused on enthusiasm of president trump's base, and this rally is a physical demonstration that there is just not that same enthusiasm that is showing up for him in the crowds in the middle of a pandemic, in the middle of an unemployment crisis, in the middle of mass social unrest and social movements. and the campaign really hopes that this rally would demonstrate that what we are seeing is it's lacking.
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it's very likely joe biden would win in a landslide, and that shows that there's a lot of work to do in the next four months before the election, and a lot of republicans are nervous about whether the campaign because they were unable to deliver on this campaign rally, whether they will be able to turn that around. >> the president had to swallow a big pill of reality over the weekend after seeing a turnout at the rally. emily larsen, stay close. ly talk to yi will talk to you bit. the district attorney steps down after the attorney general threatened to fire him. also several campaign staffers testing positive to the coronavirus. how the president is reacting to that. those stories. and, of course, a check on the weather with bill karins when we come back. - [narrator] the shark vacmop.
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why did you fire jeffrey berman, mr. president? >> it's all up to the attorney general. attorney general barr is working on that. that's his department, not my department. but we have a very capable toerch j attorney general, so that's really up to him. i'm not involved. >> so that was president trump speaking on his dismissal of the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york after attorney general barr failed to obtain his resignation. jeffrey berman until saturday morning oversaw the office. the prosecutor, the president's personal attorney michael cohening, and continues to investigate his current attorney rudy giuliani did not go quietly. in a friday evening press release, attorney general barr announced the nomination of jay clayton and said berman would be stepping down. berman quickly responded with a statement of his own writing this in part.
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i learned in a press release from the attorney general tonight that i was stepping down as united states attorney. i have not resigned and have no intention of resigning my position to which i was appointed by the judges of the united states southern district of northern. the president's only recourse was to fire berman saying he chose a public spectacle over public service. berman agreed to resign only after barr announced his hand-pick hand-pick hand-picked deputy would replace him. joining me now, danny cevallos. good morning. great to see you on this monday morning. that was something, the last 24 hours. it was stunning. >> stepping in but sort of not stepping in, saying he was not involved. >> exactly.
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i want to talk about berman's rights here, right, because he essentially said after he felt like that barr -- that barr said he was resigning, he said, i'm not resigning from my position, i'm going to stay in my position, how was he able to refuse to leave in the first place? >> if you look at the language of the order that appointed berman by the courts -- now, remember, berman was appointed by jeff sessions. his 120-day period expired, an then the courts stepped in and ordered him to continue as southern district district attorney. if you look at the order, it says he shall serve until the president appoints a new united states attorney so when he was summarily fired in this way, berman's argument was, well, this didn't comply with the order. under the language of this order, i stick around until the president appoints and the senate confirms somebody new.
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it was only really a thread to pull on because at the same time, the attorney general cited a case in his letter back to berman, which correctly probably holds that the president still retains that power to hire and fire the u.s. attorney. >> so now because of all this and not just because of this, you know, but barr's history in general, you have the house judiciary chair, jerry nadler essentially saying he believes that the attorney general deserves to be impeached, but he thinks it's going to be a waste of time if they even pursue that line because of the republican controlled senate. are there any legal grounds for impeachment from that specific firing? >> what we learned over the last year is the grounds for impeachment are a fluid concept and really as long as there's an impeachable offense, some kind of corrupt moment that the house can articulate, that could
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potentially be an impeachable offense, but legally it seems like a long shot because if this because legally authorized move, if there was a hiccup in the beginning and the barr got the president to back him on it, then it seems barr acted with some authority. on the other hand, if this was completely outside the legal process for removing berman, this could potentially be an impeachable offense, but i think it was with the republican controlled senate, an impeachment is not likely to result in a conviction and removal. >> all right, danny cevallos. as always, thank you. coming up this morning, we have a lot more ahead. ahead of the november election, president trump's allies are seeing a move. joe biden and evangelicals, that story coming up next.
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welcome back, everyone. president trump is losing a key voting block, evangelicals. joe biden, a lifelong roman catholic is performing better with evangelicals than hillary clinton did in 2016. he's viewed as widely more religious than president trump. 63% of adults believes trump is not at all oar too religious compared to 55% who believe biden is, quote, very religious. there is growing an zit about the former vice president's ability to peel off christian voters who supported trump back in 2016 including 81% of white
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evangelicals he carries of white house allies and people involved in his campaign. a decline in support could deliver a fatal blow to trump's re-election chanceses, which largely hinge on his expanse of support of religious voters to mack up for the enthusiasm gasp -- gaps among others. let's switch gears and check in with meteorologist bill karins. good morning, bill. >> good morning. i hope everyone had a wonderful father's day. we're going to get hit-and-miss storms, maybe thunderstorms. we woke up in oklahoma and texas with storms that came down from the north. a lot of lightning with those and 60-mile-per-hour winds. the worst is through the dallas area, so that's good. we've also got a good deal of storms in eastern iowa approaching the quad cities,
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some of it may be reaching chicago earlier. we're going to have a new area of thunderstorms from lubbock to amarillo, ft. worth, and areas thwart little rock too. large hail and wind damage. we're not expecting many tornadoes with that threat. were you paying attention to social media this weekend sunny was shocked that my kids on tick tock were talking about the sahara dust bloom. this has gotten a lot of attention. we can get these big areas of dust that can come off of africa. you see the coloring in st. lucia and into the caribbean, that area of dust is an extreme event. you can see the typical blue clear skies to the north, but to the south, you can see that layer of dust. now, this is usually about 5,000 feet or above in the atmosphere, but some of it has been getting down to the ground and causing some bad air quality. and our air forecast qualities
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take this dust plume into the gulf coast by the end of the week. it will give us amazing sunsets but bring us bad air quality. it's a rare event where all the way from africa is going to make it to the southern united states. the forecast today very much like summer across the country. very warm. hit-and-miss showers. i don't know if you had heard about that saharan dust layer, but sometimes the media grabs onto these buzz things. it's not unheard of, but this is an extreme event. >> no. and those satellite images are incredible to see as well as always. thank you, bill. still ahead, everybody. we're going to show you how president trump's allies are going to try to explain the smaller than expected rally attendance over the weekend. plus, in new york, companies will start to open their doors
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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin this half hour with what was to be a raucous richardson for the campaign trail at the president's rally in oklahoma on saturday, turning out to be a major disappointment for the campaign. while they boasted it would fill the bank of oklahoma center filling 19,000 seats, only 6,200
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supporters filled the general admissions center of the closed arena. tim murtaugh falsely blamed the small numbers on, quote, radical protesters and the news media who he said had frightened away supporters. but there were few protests in the area, no signs of blocking entrances, and there was a strong security presence. according to "the times," some social media users said teenagers helped keep attendance at the rally down by reserving tickets they did not intend to use. it was a prank after the campaign pranked asking supporters to register for free tickets but brad parscale pushing back reports saying the
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campaign pushed back tens of thousands of fake reservations, meanwhile a trump campaign adviser argued that the turnout was lower than expected because the president's supporters were concerned about protests outside of the venue turning violent. >> the key here that's important is to understand -- and i had this with my own personal family who lives not far away from tulsa, that there were concerns about protesters coming in. there were protesters who blocked. we had concerns. >> the fact is the president talks about the attendance at his events. he made big news about it at his inaugurati
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inauguration, that he can fill an arena and joe biden can't. he didn't fill it. >> well, he -- >> let me finish. you guys were so far off, you planned an outdoor rally and it wasn't an overflow situation. pro. ers did not stop people from coming to that rally. >> absolutely they did. i'm telling you, there were people and families that couldn't bring their children because of concerns of the protesters. >> so the lincoln group came out mocky ting the rally over the weekend. >> hey, donald, your campaign manager told you your fans wanted to come to your turnout. the turnout in tulsa turned out to be a dud. it sure wasn't as big as you promised.
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honestly we're not surprised. we see you're shake yo, you can't keep your polls up, and it's getting worse. you talk a big game. >> the event is unbelievable. the crowds are unbelievable >> and can't deliver. sad, weak, low energy, just like your presidency, just like you. >> and six members of the president's advanced team and two secret service agents testing positive for the coronavirus ahead of saturday's rally in oklahoma. the revelation made during routine screening just hours before trump was to take the stage in tulsa left the president incensed at his top political aides. he expressed annoyance that the coverage ahead of his mega rally was dominated by the announcement of that, the positive testing of six staffers. joining us is emily larsen.
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emily, good to see you again. let's talk about these six members, the advanced team, right? part of the trump crew helping to set up the stage for the saturday night rally in tulsa, testing positive. what reaction are we hearing, and also do we have any information on how close these individuals would have been to the president? were these folks local to the oklahoma area, or did they come from washington. >> well, i have a cellphone report that said two of the people who tested posted were secret service agents, so they would have the potential to be close to the president and select vip members of his campaign team. as for the other ones, it's not 100% clear how close they were or where they were stationed, but they were barred from attending the rally after the news came out that these individuals have tested -- had tested positive.
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and the biggest effect was it put a big cloud over the campaign rally. oklahoma is a state where there has been a sharp increase in positive coronavirus tests, and so that was some bad coverage for the trump campaign since this was supposed to be a get back to normal rally, trying to put the coronavirus behind them and yet it put a cloud over the rally that started for them. >> so let's talk about the attendance, the poor attendance to the rally on saturday. could you see this door you see this as a reflection of his support from voters, that he has waning support from voters that the internal polling that we have seen from the trump campaign that states joe biden is ahead, that the national polls that we have seen, seeing joe biden ahead, that all of
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those are a reflection of the fact that he has a major uphill battle? >> well, i'm hesitant to assign rally attendance to electoral performance. that's not always the best indicator. but it is an indicator that he did not have enough supporters who were willing to set aside the risks of potentially transmitting coronavirus, interacting with corona testers. this is also in tulsa, oklahoma, which is not -- there's not a high number of people in the state perhaps that was in a different part of the country. l.a. attendance might have been different. but i do want to talk about some of the campaign reactions and rationalizations for why rally attendance was so low. one of the things that's been going around is that pranksters on tik tok and other social media had tried to dampen rally attendance. the campaign said they do weed
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out fake numbers, but it's unclear how many people signed up with real phone numbers and how much this inflated the campaign's expectations about who would actually show up. and so if they were duped by that, that is a concern for them. however, this prank also wouldn't have made rally -- wouldn't have prevented people from showing up. so the reason that there are no people there, there's a difference -- it matters in the fact about the campaign's expectations, but it doesn't necessarily dampen rally attendance for the people who didn't show up. that is explained by other factors and something that the campaign has to be looking toward as they try and plan rallies in the future. >> all right. emily larsen, thank you as always. great to see you this morning, emily. president trump's former national security adviser john bolton can move forward with publishing his tell-all.
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on saturday a federal judge rejected the administration's request to pull the book saying it was too late to do so with hundreds of thousands of copies already spread worldwide. u.s. district judge roy slamberth wrote this. the damage is done. also it was suggested bolton may be in jeopardy of getting his $2 million advance before receiving final notice it was clear of sensitive or classified information zwriel ahead, everybody. following its ban of the confederate flag nascar's plan continues after a noose was found in the garage of the sport's only black driver. your first like at "morning joe" is back in a moment. (music)
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together our sport has made a decision to driving real change and championing a community that is accepting and welcoming of everyone. let's bring in meteorologist bill karins. >> what a class act. >> we're starting with covid numbers. yeah, incredible to hear from bubba wallace there, but so sad to hear what he's had to deal with. i do want to switch gears and talk coronavirus numbers because the numbers are startling across 24 states. you're seeing a surge in numbers over the weekend. >> it's amazing. we're going in two different directions still. we talked about this on friday. we're going up now for the total number of cases, but we're still seeing the deaths going down. it doesn't make sechblnse. it's complicated.
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there could be a lot of reasons why. this is what happened yesterday. 26,000 new cases were reported, and half of those 26,000 are only coming from five states, california, florida, texas, arizona, north carolina. those are the hot spots right now in the country, and that's where they're seeing, you know, almost a record number of cases every other day, and it's still going up. let me show you the trend. here's the seven-day average. this is the better gauge. you take the seven-day average. that peaked april 25 eed april . then we're going down. then in the last ten days we're going up. you see the blue line. we're at 27,600. we're not that fair away from te peak. as far as deaths, the exact
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opposite is happening with deaths. you can see the current heav seven-day average is 627. now is it going to go up as new cases are going up? that's what we'll have to watch for. storms all the way into st. louis, areas of the deep south. even dallas, a chance of storms. by the middle of the week, they make it along the shores of the east coast. the heat will last all week along the west coast. very summer-like on the east coast. yasmin, we'll have to wait and see what the reason is. is the virus less deadly? sit because people are staying in isolation while others are out and about and won't die from
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welcome back, everybody. in what has been a rocky rollout of the paycheck protection program, the treasury department announcing on friday it will be releasing which small businesses have received funding from the federal aid program. karen, good morning. great to see you this morning. talk us through this decision here. >> good morning. if you've taken public funds, it will become public knowledge. it was announced on friday the treasury department will release data on which businesses took paycheck protection programs. effectively we thought the businesses could remain behind a
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veil of secrecy. this could change. they'll talk about the range of dollar amount. that will be revealed. however, businesses who took less than $150,000 will not be revealed. that said about 75% of businesses that did tap the program took more than $150,000. so many of the names will come out. the treasury secretary, steve mnuchin said in a statement they're striking the appropriate balance of providing public transparency while protecting the payroll and personal income information. in other news, in new york city today after three months of lockdown, businesses will be allowed to reopen their offices. that said from nervous employees to cautious employers there's not a lot of appetite to return to work. we're hearing 10 to 20% of office workers may return to work. some are marking labor day as a return-to-work data.
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that depends on if schools reopen. if you think of the home schooling that's taking place at this point, it makes it difficult for businesses to get workers. and also what happens in public transportation and employees in businesses. >> i know a lot of folks in new york city that are not returning to work in spite of the fact the office buildings are opening up across the city. >> let's talk about shopping online. it became big during the pandemic, the only way people could purchase things. although that might be waning one product is going to be picked up online still. talk us through this. >> cars, who would have thought going into the dealership, taking your car in, trading it in, that may be falling by the wayside. those dealerships hit hard by
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good morning, give us one big thing today. >> the axios one big thing, axios interviewed in the pentagon. jonathan swan had an interview with president trump. and we discovered the president is scratching within its two marks, mark esper and mark milley. so we asked president trump how he felt about the fact that they distanced themselves from that st. john's photo op and here's what he said. he said under strict military valuations, they're probably right. that's what military people follow. but the president said, i don't know, i would have been differently. i would think they would be proud to walk with their president. and jonathan said mr. president can you put your hand on your heart and say you fully support mark esper, your fourth defense secretary in three years and
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president trump said well, i don't think i need to go hand on heart, but if there's a change you'll hear about it. if you're the guy, that's not what you want to hear your boss saying. >> so amidst all of this, you also have the president speaking out for the first time about his niece's first -- forthcoming book. what did he have to say about it? >> this is -- we knew the book was coming next month from mary trump, his niece. a memoir about the family. very tough on the family. it's called too much and never enough. we asked president trump about this. this is the first time he's talked about this book, shot to the top of amazon after it was announced recently. and he said that mary, his niece, is covered by a nondisclosure agreement that he said is very strong, quote, it covers everything, the president
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said, she's not allowed to write a book. so pause and say how amazing it is you have a nondisclosure agreement with your family. but those are the trumps. we asked about something specific. jonathan asked him about something the publisher announced. in there she says that when the president's father was fading with alzheimer's that president derided him. president trump hadn't heard that until we told him. he said that was a disgraceful thing to say. he said the opposite is true, he had a great relationship with his father to the end. >> i have to say, the title, it is just stunning. "too much and never enough, how famili family create it had world's most dangerous man". axios reported some swing voters are seeing joe biden as a path
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to stability rather than a president who will implement change. do you think if he was more outspoken in the past couple of months their views would be different? >> i think this focus group suggested that the basement strategy worked for joe biden. this was in erie, pennsylvania, they joined a virtual focus group and found that what people liked in biden, one you said, he was stability. when people talk about trump, they talked about how they were irritated, frustrated, they were annoyed. when they talked about joe biden and they didn't necessarily know anything he'd done or said recently. they just liked the fact that he was not trump. and the descriptions of him reminded me a little bit of a designated driver. they said he was responsible, he was informed, they said he was
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ja educated. we're seeing here in the trump versus trump referendum, biden wins as the third choice. >> maybe that was reflected in the oklahoma rally over the weekend. mike allen, thank you as always. i'll be reading axios a.m. in just a little bit. that does it for me on this monday morning i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. they have new -- a pretty new, magnificent arena. as you probably have heard and we're getting exact numbers out but we're either close to or over 1 million people wanting to go. >> they're so excited ant it, you have no idea. there are lines of people now and we won't be there for three days. they have lines of people right now trying to get into the arena. they'll be there. they'll be
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