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melber. you can see the reporters assembled there. alarming numbers on covid-19 and florida health department meanwhile now has announced over 100,000 confirmed cases of the virus in that state alone. in geneva, the w.h.o.'s chief is saying that the health emergency programs there have been addressing an uptick in parts of the u.s. >> what is clear is that the increase is not entirely explained through just increased testing. there is some evidence of increased in hospitalizations. >> this also comes while senators schumer and murray claim president trump is sitting on $14 billion in virus testing and tracing fund. the president, meanwhile, is clashing with former national security adviser john bolton who commented on whether he would speak to house investigators now. >> democrats subpoena you, will

you testify? >> let's see what they decide to do. >> let's see. well, let's go to washington. we're just learning that the white house is no longer conducting the mandatory temperature checks for journalists who enter their grounds and also not being given symptom screenings upon arrival. that had been the approach for months. we are joined in washington by nbc's jeff bennett. sir, what can you tell us? >> ari, look, the white house is what had been another layer of safe guards after those two officials in president trump's close orbit last month came down with coronavirus. as you mentioned, the white house is no longer requiring the mandatory temperature checks and symptom screenings for staffers, guests, visitors, journalists who access the property day in and day out. so, the way it used to work for the last few weeks until this morning was that any time you'd approach the gate, which is about 100 feet in this direction, there would be a staffer who would stop you and

ask if you exhibited symptoms for the last 48 hours and they'd take your temperature. only if then you got the green light, could you then come in and start the work day. now, white house official tells us this decision was made in concert with washington, d.c. entering its second reopening phase. we're also told that people who are in close proximity to president trump and vice president mike pence, those folks will continue to be screened. they'll have their temperatures taken and they will also be administered coronavirus tests. but the white house has stopped requiring the use of masks in and around this building. it might look big and sprawling on television but anything but. probably big enough to park two or three minivans side by side. that's essentially it. really close quarters here. no way to socially distance, ari. >> geoff, appreciate the reporting and the context there for our viewers to understand the room that you and our colleagues are in. thank you very much. we want to get moving to

some of these other stories, as well. the fallout between trump and bolton. bolton confirms he will not be voting for trump in november. this is the president he serves and instead he will write in a conservative republican, tbd. refusing to testify in those high-stakes impeachment hearings. he has come under increased scrutiny for now releasing some of the same information that was demanded then in the book tour now. >> the democrats made a conscious decision at the beginning of the ukraine impeachment effort to push republicans aside. i think there were a lot of republicans in the house that might have been open to a more reasoned, nonpartisan effort. i think the way the house advocates of impeachment proceeded was badly wrong. i think it was impeachment malpractice. >> you could have been that person providing that testimony. >> it would not have made any difference. >> how can you say that?

how do you know? >> because minds were made up on capitol hill. >> i'm joined now by ambassador normiz normi iziz normizen. he was actually the council to house judiciary committee hearings, front row seat and knows everything that went down including all the negotiations with mr. bolton. good to see you, sir. >> ari, wonderful to be back with you. >> let's start with your response to what we just heard from ambassador bolton. >> well, ambassador bolton's book has been criticized for him saying every one except him made mistakes and this is another example of it. the need for the impeachment to move briskly was because you had a president, ari, who was interfering in a rapidly approaching election. we knew he had done that with

ukraine. we knew had he had made comments publicly about china and we saw he did it before starting in the 2016 election with russia, if you're listening. so that's what drove the need for speed. nothing else. there was every opportunity for republicans to join. unfortunately, we're not hiin ay and this was a righteous impeachment and the only malpractice was ambassador bolton's in failing to show up and then profiteering from the same information now. >> you also question the information is appropriate or lawful to share. and that's interesting, ambassador eisen, because that puts you in a type of agreement. maybe you got there a very different way with some of the trump officials who criticize bolton now. take a look at current white house adviser peter novarro.

>> i predict this. he will not only not get the profits from that book, but he would risk a jail sentence. he has done something that is very, very serious in terms of american national security and he has to pay a price for that. >> and this is what you wrote after reading the book. you did your homework. you said, quote, i just finished the bolton book. shocking. the book contains information that is, was or should be classified. the place to share this information was in impeachment, not in a book. it may well be evidence and two prosecutions. trumps and boltons. quite a serious assertion to make. i'm curious how you back it up and how you feel agreeing with trump's adviser there. >> well, ari, as you know, i'm no fan of president trump or his administration. i do believe the president has committed high crimes and misdemeanors. the republican senators admitted

after. they admitted the quid pro quo had been shown. they admitted to the underlying predicate. but, ari, the way you get the facts before the decisionmakers isroper process. and ambassador bolton should have come to us in the impeachment or the trial. he should have allowed these facts to be weighed. i worked as a white house lawyer on the restructuring of the classification system in 2009. i've had the highest security clearances myself. i've classified documents. and there is information in this book that should have seen public light and other information that never should have. like the details about the iran bombing decisionmaking when our drone was downed. that is sensitive information that all of our adversaries all over the world are studying the decisionmaking inputs that are

provided in detail. so, as surprised as i am to say it, i do think that there is not only civil liability but potential criminal exposure for that kind of information. some of the other stuff relevant to impeachment should have come out and would have come out if ambassador bolton had done the right thing during the trial. >> coming from you, council and ambassador norm eisen, appreciate your views on this very big issue, sir. >> thank you, ari. great to be back with you. >> great to have you back. we like seeing you when you're not busy in government. i want to keep moving because another big, big story that we're tracking. the senate and the house now saying they plan to actually vote, yes, really vote on some version of these new police reform plans this week. there are key differences. we begin with garrett haake live on capitol hill. garrett? >> yes, really vote on the justice and policing act. the problem is matching up with

what the house passes with anything that the senate may yet produce. what we know so far in the senate republican bill that has been released is that it doesn't go far enough for democrats at all. let's look at some of the reasons why. the democratic bill includes an outright ban on chokeholds. includes an outright ban on no knock warrants which the federal government can directly get itself involved in. and changes in qualified immunity. that may be the single sticking point between these two bills. this is the thing that allows for civil suits and for individuals to go after individual police officers and police departments over use of force cases. republicans don't have it in their bill. and, so, the thing to watch this week will be not just the house voting on their bill on thursday. the passage of which i think is not quite a foregone conclusion, but let's be reasonably confident that the democrats can pass this when they put it on the floor. the question is, what do senate democrats do when republicans move to take their bill into the

floor process here. do senate democrats say this doesn't go nearly far enough and reject it outright or do they say perhaps we can work on this. perhaps we can improve this to a level that we could be satisfied. so far only one senate democrat, alabama doug jones. easily the most endangered senate democrat has said he will vote to move on to this bill and even get started talking about it. that's what i'm watching for the rest of this week. >> really fascinating and, garrett, as is so often the case speaking to norm eisen, gave me impeachment flashbacks. you will be busy and we'll be relying on you this week. good to see you. >> thank you. now to get into the policy of this. we just got the update on how it's going in the voting and what is happening in the different caucuses. we turn now to tracy and the senior vice president of police equity and former deputy commissioner of training at the nypd, a retired 25-year veteran of the denver police department.

i would say conservatively speaking you've walked the walk. i appreciate you joining us today. >> thank you very much. i've walked the walk. i appreciate it. >> let me start big picture and then we can dive deep into the actual policies. but big picture, one thing that has happened is we have seen the pressure force responses. now, not everyone agrees on the responses. but just the power of street protests in this movement has made donald trump and bill barr and other individuals talk more about or address questions about race than typical. so, with that in mind, i want to note that i want to listen to attorney general barr for your response. take a look. >> do you think that there is systemic racism in this country? >> no, i don't think there's systemic, well, i do think there is racism in the country. now, systemic in terms of the law enforcement and the police agencies, i don't think there is systemic law enforcement in

those agencies. i think individuals and there are individuals who, you know, may have bias and sometimes that may emerge. and be manifested in some act. but i don't think it's systemic. >> your response? >> well, i think that like most, you can't have it bogue both ways. right. you can't say there's systemic racism in america and then try to exclude the systems in which a lot of these things are operating. so, of course, there's systemic racism. not only in america, but in the structures, the government structures in which you see a lot of folks out in the street protesting about. specifically policing. if you look at our history and how those things came to be, it's very difficult to say that it's not. and i would also have to point to over the last couple of days and especially over the weekend, you hear officers of color, women, really answering that question. you know, they're being

specifically asked, do you think there is systemic racisms within the police department and the answer is, yes. that is my answer, as well. >> appreciate that. on the bills we're seeing in the house, what stands out to you as the most likely to change the day-to-day policing? we got it up on the screen and we talk about it briefly on the democratic side, which is going farther. they range from things that involve information, like tracking misconduct to fundamental changes to the officers. for example, change in qualified immunity is a huge change, if it goes through. what do you see as most impactful? >> well, interesting part about all of this conversation is that all of it will have an impact. the question is, which pieces of these things will have the most impact. and we won't know until we measure them. the devil will be in the details

on each of these. i think the way you presented is that the only way you'll be able to sort of understand it is that you have to do side by side and understand specifically what we're talking about. for example, in the chokehold piece, there is still an option if officers believe there is a need for deadly force. where in the justice and policing act, it not only bans it but also gets more specific about carotid. that means you're putting pressure and restricting blood. not just the oxygen portion of it. i think as we look through these, the devil is going to be in the details. i also remind folks that a lot of the states already over the last couple weeks have passed a lot of legislation that gets to it. but the one thing that i know a lot of folks are still having conversation about is that these are very important pieces. but you also have to get to the culture of policing. a part in these particular acts,

especially in the justice act, they talk about investing in diversifying departments. this was the same remedy that was given in the commission report almost 50 years ago. i can tell you as a black officer and as an officer and a woman sitting in that intersection, it is about the culture. you still have things that are happening even with departments that are extremely diverse. it's about accountability. it is about tracking and making sure that we're not talking about best practices any more. we're talking about evidence based. we need to know what's working and what's not. there is still a ton of work that has to be done on the evidence-based side. >> tracie, appreciate your insights on the battle shaping up in congress that could affect a lot of different parts of the country. thank you. >> thank you. we're going to fit in a break here. been going strong on several different stories. when we come back, we'll get into how the coronavirus is hitting southern and rural states after the break.

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following several new developments in this coronavirus pandemic. a, the w.h.o. chief expressing another grim milestone. the most cases in a single day so far.

183,000. also finding a reason to celebrate. >> the next challenge is to increase production and rapidly and equitable distribute. >> this morning, new york city officials talking about how they are entering phase two of that city's reopening. that means hair salons, retail in person, outdoor seating at restaurants now open. meanwhile, the economic fallout continues. existing home sales in the u.s. plunged nearly 10% in month. the third straight monthly decline. that's all over the country. the biggest declines were in the northeast where infections, of course, have been especially heavy. meanwhile today florida surpassing 100,000 cases and more than 3,100 deaths from this virus. the number of daily confirmed cases has been on a steep incline there. just in the past few weeks. the effect, especially on migrant farm workers will have to continue to go to work putting themselves and thus their families and communities at risk. we go now to kerry sanders who

is reporting on all of this live in immokalee, florida. kerry? >> this is sort of the center of where this problem has been developing, quite frankly, for weeks. and mostly under radar. the estimates are about 1 in 25 people here in immokalee testing positive. the crops have just been harvested. you can see video of the effort to clean the crops off of the field and get them into communities. but folks were doing this by and large without masks and without social distancing and living in camps together. nelly rodriguez is here with us. she's going to chat with us in spanish and we'll do a little instant translation to understand what is going on. so, first of all, why do you think that the government here in florida paid no attention to you?

>> translator: it's because where we live. it's a very rural area where most of us are farm workers. and many people are people of color. for many years, this has been what has affected us. this inequality and kind of the disinterest. >> i'll ask her now about the question which is, it took the doctors without borders to get in here to initially help them. are they now getting the help that they need? >> translator: well, at first it was something that we were asking the government for. we were asking for tests for a field hospital, a place for people to go isolate.

and we didn't get any immediate response from the authorities from the government or the state. it was disinterest. >> finally, because migrant workers generally follow the crops and as i pointed out most of the crops here have been harvested. much of this community may be asymptomatic and recovered ore whether they have the virus to move along. so, the question is, while they felt ignored here by the health department, what message does she have to the governors, to the states up north? >> translator: that they see the example of how workers are affected here. what happened in florida. it's very similar this rural area is very similar to what's

in georgia so that they see this example and that the authorities there are concerned. concerned themselves for the health of the workers. that the government goes out the state or the department of health will go out to where workers are. as a community here, we had to look for our own resources. in order to protect ourselves. and to protect our health. >> we thank her for taking the time. we appreciate the translator who's here in the field to help us do that instant translation. but if nothing else, it is a warning to a group that was basically off radar that is now, because of the migrant movements towards the crops, is one that other governments she is suggesting should pay close attention to rather than ignoring. this coronavirus, as we all know, doesn't discriminate. it doesn't really matter in many

cases even how old you are. that is one of the underlying stories here in florida. as we pass 100,000. the growing number of those who are younger coming up with positive tests. average age now in florida, 37. ari? >> really striking. kerry sanders reporting from florida. interviewing nely rodriguez. my thanks to both of you. kerry was mentioning the youth angle and we turn now to dr. patel a fellow at brookings institute and worked as an obama white house health policy director. and this is one of those times where the on the ground and e n evenaneven anecdotaal reporting mentions wider statistics. kerry is talking about the exposure to the young, the younger, average age is 37 and discuss with what you have been thinking about, doctor. look at this npr coverage that the coronavirus has a bigger slice of the population 20s and 30s accounting for a larger share of new infections.

doctor? >> yeah, absolutely, ari. a lot of it is consistent with what we were predicting that as either states reopened too soon or just in general goes through phases of reopening. you're see the more vulnerable populations. people who are older with chronic conditions still being a little less likely to go out and you're seeing populations that were not as severely infected in the beginning going out a little bit more and getting into crowded spaces. h some of the images you are showing bars and restaurants and no social distancing and that is an increase in younger people. having said that, it doesn't mean the people are immune from having the effects of this virus. they can have positive cases and also have some of the devastating hospitalations. but it is concerning because we also don't know how much of the younger population can actually spread this unintentionally to those who are vulnerable. and a state like florida, ari,

all i have to do is tell you that they topped 100,000, as you mentioned, cases. that is more than china has recorded. so, we are seeing these effects very real and very local. >> so, what do we do? >> yeah, so, i think, again, i have never been a fan of saying that we all just kind of retreat and kind of go back to, you know, locking down the economy. i think people feeling confident that they can go out and be healthy is the way for economic recovery. so, we have to acknowledge that we have failed from getting the leadership from up top and that we do need to make sure as the recording from kerry pointed out. we need to make sure not only testing to access, but information access. what can people do to go out without packing a bar and have a social environment. be outside. wear masks. i don't know why this has become political. there's nothing political about it. it may be limited in its effectiveness, but even the cdc is now looking into whether,

ari, you and i wearing masks can actually protect us before we thought it was just about protecting others. wear a mask. do what you can to be distant. possible just physical distance and hand hygiene. hand hygiene. we say it a lot but i also think it's worth emphasizing that these things do matter and we can go out and in this warmer weather find ourselves physically outdoors and be safer. what we should not do is go to jacksonville and pack an indoor auditorium for a convention. i really hope florida authorities are thinking now proactively about how to make changes for the summer. >> dr. patel, as always, thank you so much. when we come back we'll look at the bias complaints over prison guards and who they were allowed to guard with derek chauvin. the minneapolis officer charged with the death of george floyd and what happened when he was first brought to a minnesota county jail. i am robert strickler.

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welcome back the white house press secretary briefing on coronavirus issues as infections are rising. in 90 minutes the public viewing will begin for rayshard brooks who was killed outside a wendy's. the private funeral will occur tomorrow. it will investigate after a noose was found in the garage stall of bubba wallace who is nascar's only black driver and who has publicly supported the black lives matter movement. wallace called the incident a despicable act of racism and hatred and nascar itself conducting an internal investigation. new york mayor bill de blasio supports the removing of a statue of teddy roosevelt in front of the museum of natural history. it explicitly depicts as racially inferior. in minneapolis, eight

correction officers have filed discrimination charges with the minnesota department of human rights. they allege that they were barred by supervisors from guarding or being on the same floor as officer derek chauvin, who is the fired police officer indicted for the murder of george floyd. the indictment says basically only white guards were allowed to be near chauvin. >> one sergeant was stopped in the middle of booking chauvin and now wants the sergeant transporting chauvin to his unit. another officer knew something was wrong because noticed on the camera's jails that all the officers of color were on the third floor. you can't segregate employees because of the color of their skin. >> the allegations that you hear from the lawyer are basically that these correction officers, these are inside the police system are saying that they were

racially profiled and discriminated against in doing their jobs. now, earlier this month, we should note the ramsey county sheriff's office was denying that race determined which officers could guard chauvin. they were asked about it initially by reuters. they now do acknowledge the actual staffing situation. jail superintendent said he was protecting his employees by possible traumataization through the decision to basically segregate the officers. as you just heard the officer attorney disputes that version of events. the sheriff office says while it reviews in cases like this, the superintendent's responsibilities have been modified, as well as an interim supervisor has now been installed. that is a story we will stay on. now, up next, the fallout from president trump's firing and one of the most powerful federal prosecutors in the country and the controversial role attorney general bill barr played weighing in.

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changed course slightly agreeing that the deputy will take over in the interim and berman now out. joining me now is justice corrupt pete williams. pete, as you know, and as our viewers have heard over the course of the mueller probe, every federal prosecutor around the country is equal and has these powers but sdny has seen as a big one. walk us through what your reporting shows. >> the best we can see here is this has very little to do before pending cases before the southern district and more to do with personalities. jay clayton the securities and exchange commission had approached both the president and bill barr. both of whom knew him and said that he was stepping down from the sec job going back to new york and was interested in the u.s. attorney's position and they basically said, okay. let's give him a chance. thought that jeff berman would step out of the way, that is not what happened, as you know.

but it does appear that this potential nomination of jay clayton is now in big trouble because the chairman of the senate judiciary committee william graham said he won't go ahead with it unless they agree with it and they express their opposition. he could be appointed by a court if the position remains vacant. but that seems unlikely that the court that put berman in in the first place. i think this was an attempt to help somebody they knew that it doesn't seem to have turned out very well. >> and, pete, for your reporting, i'll just read briefly pretty standard statement but brand-new from the white house press secretary saying that with regard to this personnel change, quote, a sign off capacity, yes, the president was involved, end quote, pete. >> he has to be involved for two purposes. number one, the white house did announce the president's intent to nominate. that went out at 10:30 friday night. and secondly, a u.s. attorney once they get in that job can

only be fired by the president. and so what barr said on saturday that he recommended to the president that he fired berman and that's what the president did. he was involved at least twice. >> understand. appreciate the clarity in reporting, pete williams. we turn now to former federal prosecutor for the attorney's office who also briefed worked briefly under jeffrey berman and close to these players and personalities as pete mentioned. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me, ari. how unusual was the rollout and the substance of this? >> it was shocking, very irregular. very unusual. i think has been reported and in my experience and every the u.s. attorney's office's experience this never really happens. i think it's a travesty the way it happened in a very public way.

and by all appearances, jeffrey berman was doing a knock out, knock out job and for him to be dismissed in this manner, it is, again, a travesty and very irregular. something also irregular is what was reported is how barr wanted an outsider to fill the interim acting u.s. attorney's spot instead of audrey strauss which is also highly irregular. >> that goes to one of the issues. the trump administration is saying, well, they just had some personnel ideas and they moved forward with them and pay no attention to the fact that it was late friday night and that jeffrey berman stood up in this very uncharacteristic way to basically dispute the truth of what attorney general barr asserted. so, everyone seen that in public at a minimum. people can decide who to believe. do you view it given your experience in this office just calling balls and strikes and trying to be nonpartisan. do you view it as a tell or

suspicious that the initial plan was to not let the deputy step up, which is supposed to be required under federal law and actually have an outsider take over everything? >> it's absolutely suspicious. and it clouds the whole transition. and on top of that, the person that bar recommended would be taking over as acting already is in charge of another very busy u.s. attorney's office. so, to have an outsider come in in that manner makes no sense. and it leaves a lot of questions open. again, it puts a cloud on the manner in which this all happened. >> when you look at how many big cases past and present and unknown might be in this office, do you have any view of whether it is possible that there may have been a conflict over the way this office was approaching

cases or the giuliani probe or just too speculative to say? >> i don't think it's too speculative to say. the reason i say that is because often it happens that there is tension or can be tension between main justs and tnuin ju component about certain cases especially high-profile cases. that's exactly the reason why the independents and particular offices of utmost importance and you can't be doing things to make it look like they're trying to influence certain high-profile cases. even if you're not. because this makes it look like you are. >> understood. and finally since you crossed paths with berman, did you see anything in the way he approached the job that meant he would be more likely to clash with the barr/trump approach to justice? >> i think my brief experience

with geoff berman, he is a straight shooter. he recognizes the importance of independence and prosecutorial independence and to prosecute cases for the right reasons. and he's a prosecutor's prosecutor. and that's a great thing. he did things for the right reason all the time. >> which is your way of saying that based on what is publicly known and from what you were known working in the office, you don't see a valid reason to just remove him out of the blue friday night? >> that's my view. he was doing a knockout job. >> yeah. and we are talking all kinds of folks, including sources inside the trump administration as we report, but your view having been there is useful to add to that reporting, kan. thank you so much. we'll fit in a break. when we come back, absentee voting and why it's a bigger issue than ever.

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with everything else going on, did you know that kentucky and new york are holding primaries tomorrow? with the coronavirus pandemic, obviously, very much on everyone's minds a health issue. there are concerns about what will and the absentee ballots and whether polling places could be closed. we go to msnbc national political correspondent steve kornacki with all the latest. steve. >> ari, interesting race here. keep these two names in mind for the next 24, 48 hours. charles booker, amy mcgrath. each one wants to run against mitch mcconnell. the interesti ing story here, a mcgrath got in the race a year ago. there was initially a lot of excitement among national democrats. she ran for the house in 2018, it was created with booker being a late entrance, a huge disparity. nearly $20 million for amy mcgrath. a couple hundred thousand for charles booker. it looks like in the last couple weeks, there's been a late

flurry of momentum for booker. he's gottant some national endorseme endorsements. elizabeth warren, bernie sanders. there is a possibility here, certainly it seems, that booker has a shot in this tomorrow, despite the late start and despite that huge disparity. now, you mentioned there's a big question here, sort of a subplot around the actual conduct of the election itself. take a look at this. in 2016, there were more than 2400 polling locations throughout the state of kentucky. now, because of the coronavirus, it can be very different tomorrow. there are going to be 177 throughout the state. they do have mail-in voting, anybody can request an absentee ballot. looks like about a quarter of voters have done that. notably here, lexington and louisville, the sort of population centers of kentucky by far the two largest counties, each one of these counties, one voting location. so that has raised some concerns here. are there going to be problems, long lines ini should note here,

in both of these counties, these aren't normal voting locations. see if we can get it on the screen. they're using the kentucky expo center, a football field in lexington. they think that might be able to handle the crowds. we will see. certainly some drama there. of course, they have been encouraging people to send in the absentee ballots. and the final race here, eliot engel, 32-year incumbent in new york, in trouble in the primary. we'll see, can he hold on too? >> steve, if they hold the polling location in a football field, that should help. all of us with our football analogies on these primary election nights. >> hail mary pass or something like that. >> hail mary works. we didn't even know we were going to get into it. you'll be busy throughout this and on into november. see you soon. >> thank you. >> thank you. now to get into the policy side of this, wendy wiser, directs the democracy project for the democracy center at the nyc school of year, and full disclosure, a former brief colleague of mine. nice to see you.

>> nice to see you, ari. >> walk us through, we just did politics with steve. and candidates have to deal with whatever the battlefield is. but walk us through the policy concerns you raise because you have an interesting piece where you talk in "newsweek" about the fact this option is skyrocketing mail-in voting with the pandemic at the very time where your concern, some officials may try to make it harder for people to vote. >> absolutely. now, what we're seeing this year in the pandemic is a surge in americans requesting to vote by absentee ballot or mail ballot. it is by far the safest way to vote in the midst of a pandemic, and most states have expanded accessibility so that everybody who wants to can cast a ballot by mail. but what we're seeing is that across the country, states are not prepared to handle that

deluge, the huge surge in absentee ballot requests and they're also not prepared to handle the polling places. the voters who do not or cannot vote by absentee, and we're seeing, what we're seeing in kentucky is a microcosm of the problems we're seeing across the country, a dramatic surge in absentee ballot request, the lack of preparation, people not getting their ballots on time, people not having access to the ballot request, and then consoldasconsau consolidation of polling places and what we're expecting unfortunately are incredibly long lines on election day which might also lead to large scale voter disenfranchisement. >> there's the access piece of that, and you lay thought that out. then if it's a close election and mail-in voting is surging, you write in one area, it was 18 times the number requested just

last cycle. that's, i think, larger than many of us may realize. does that mean there's a higher likelihood in a close race we might have an answer on election night or the nesmorning because they'll still be counting bal s ballots or walk us through that? >> we're already seeing that in primary after primary. it is taking in georgia, in pennsylvania, in ohio, we're not getting our results on election night. americans should be prepared not to know who is our president if there are close races or any other close races on election night. because it just, paper ballots, mail ballots take a lot longer to count. they need to be opened. they need to be validated and they need to be put through scanners. this is something that doesn't happen just by the flick of a switch. and so we should be preparing for waits, and what i'm especially worried about is that we should also be preparing for

a real mess on election day. and many of those ballots not arriving on time. this is something that we really need to get ahead of now. so that we don't have large-scale disasters on election day and 40 or more states, so we don't have large-scale voter disenfranchisement. we need to get resources to election officials now. not only so that they can make sure that everybody can vote without risking their life, but so they can actually count the ballots on time. >> understood. and all really important points, as you're looking up ahead and around the corner. wendy, thank you, and good to see you. i'll tell everyone at home this does wrap up the hour for us, but i will be back at 6:00 on "the beat." don't go anywhere now because my colleague katy tur picks up the coverage after this break. how about no

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good afternoon. i'm katy tur. it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. here in the east. coronavirus cases are still spiking across the country. we are approaching 2.3 million confirmed cases of covid-19 in the united states. and more than 120,000 americans have now died. to put that into perspective, that is roughly the population of allentown, pennsylvania. 12 states have also seen record high cases of covid as the south, southwest, and midwest see a wave of new cases. and the white house is preparing the federal stockpile in the

event that we see a second wave of the virus in the fall. that's according to trade adviser peter navarro. and even as the country struggles through the first wave and the president continues to downplay the crisis. over the weekend, six members of the president's advance team tested positive for the virus, including two members of the secret service. and his much hyped rally in tulsa saw smaller than expected crowds, which could mean that some of his supporters are more concerned about the virus than he is. regardless, the president still doesn't appear to be all that concerned. he told supporters that he asked experts to slow the rate of testing. he asked them to slow the rate of testing in the early days of this crisis. >> here's the bad part. when you test -- when you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases. so i said to my people, slow the testing down please.

>> now, the white house says those jokes -- those comments were a joke, but joke or not, public health officials have said that early testing could have abated the record high number of cases and the deaths across this country. testing was important. and it still is. and the first wave of covid-19 is still spreading across the united states, even as more states push forward in their attempts to fully reopen. new york is one of those states today, where things are reopening, at least. confirms cases have risen with the largest clussers in the southwest and midwest. arizona, florida, and texas are among a dozen cases that have hit record numbers of new cases. joining me from dallas is nbc news correspondent morgan chesky. what are you seeing down there today? >> katy, there's certain an increased concern when you see these numbers, not just here in texas but across the country, because as new york enters phase two, texas has been reopening,

but now, a lot of people are taking pause to look at the fact that the cases are going up now, not just one day by another, but we're seeing records being broken now for at least a week. we know that here in texas, dallas officials are so concerned about the spread of covid-19 due to this increased surge that they just passed an order that any business will have to now enforce customers wear face coverings upon entering. meanwhile, both austin and san antonio making two of the top five hot spots, and that is in the entire country. houston, not faring much better with harris county, where houston is, seeing a surge as well. so that's the status here in texas. it's being attributed for a couple reasons. increased social gatherings, people going back out to bars, to those parties. a gathering at the lake, the rivers, as they do as the temperature heats up, and that's why there's an ongoing effort called operation safe open where

agents with the texas alcohol and beverage commission are going to establishments and shutting them down if they're breaking code violations that have been put in place to try to keep people safe. in the meantime, in florida, the concern there, we're finally hearing governor ron desantis acknowledge that increased testing, not the only reason behind this surge in covid numbers. he's also acknowledging the fact that younger patients are some of the most widely affected at this point in time, so in order to combat that, expect to see policies in florida that are going to be cracking down on social distancing in bars, nightclubs, et cetera, because it is now a younger demographic that's become one of the key targets here in covid-19. so as these numbers continue to rise, katy, there is a concern from local leaders that it could be, if something is not done within the next week or two, it could be out of control. katy. >> morgan chesky, i think we're learning more and more every day that this virus is not slowing down with the warmer temperatures.

certainly not there in texas, not there in florida. and speaking of warm temperatures, president trump is going to head to arizona tomorrow, where i think it's going to top out at 110 degrees. he's going to travel to yuma to celebrate the 200th mile of border wall. yuma is also a new covid hot spot. cases have doubled in arizona over the last 15 days. so joining me now from there is reporter vaughn hillyard. nbc news reporter. vaughn, we have been talking about what's happening in arizona. and we have been talking about how this spike is something that health officials saw coming. and that officials, government officials there were slow to react to. what is the feeling now? >> well, this is what the president is entering into. he's technically going to be touring border wall construction tomorrow, but at the same time, he's coming into a place that is a covid hot spot. we were here just three weeks ago in the cases have quadruples

since then. to give you an idea of what yuma looks like. if you look beyond me, this is an yare where you not only have mexico border a couple miles away, but to the west, you have the california border. when we talk about yuma, we're talking about the greater yuma area here. there's also several thousand farm workers that go back and forth each day here. and as the testing increases, so do those number of cases. i want to bring in the ceo of yuma regional medical center, because right now, there's currently 120 covid-positive patients here at your major hospital facility. dr. robert, if you could tell me, what does the president need to understand in order to stop this covid spread across the wider yuma area? >> definitely, we have seen an uptick. we have seen that over the past two to three weeks. i would call it a surge in number of positive cases and the number of cases coming into the hospital. the arizona surge line has worked very well from a decompression perspective. we're able to send particularly for rural hospitals, we're able

to send patients when we're either overloaded or unable to care for those patients to other hospitals around the state. so that has worked very well. the self managing of the elective procedures, we have stopped all of our elective procedures this week so we could have all nurses on deck caring for covid patients. the biggest issue right now for is stuffing. we don't have the staffing available, icu nurses, floor nurses, to staff all of our beds and for all the patients that we have coming through our doors. compare that to metropolitan areas, you know, where you can sometimes harvest nursing and other professional staffs from other areas or other hospitals, you don't really have that in a rural area. what you have is what you have and you're set with that. the social distancing, the preventive measures, the mask wearing, we're advocating for that here in yuma to help prevent the spread. >> doctor, i appreciate it. katy, the doctor mentioned mask wearing. it's now a city mandate as of this weekend that everybody here, a city of 100,000 people, must wear a mask. i want to make one other note

that the president is entering into. the president suggested a potential slowdown of testing. you should know, particularly in maricopa county over the last week, it's become apparent there's, number one, a lack of staffing in order to be able to process enough tests for the demand that is there. as well as the laboratories. there's now a delay of more than a week for getting most of though tests returned at this point, katy. >> interesting, vaughn. we're going to stick on that topic throughout the next few minutes. vaughn hillyard in arizona, thank you very much. the white house is ending mandatory temperature checks for some staff and visitors entering the white house. staff who come in direct contact with the president will still get checked. but it is another indication that the trump administration is ready to move on from the pandemic even though the pandemic is not ready to move on from us. so joining us now from the white house is nbc news reporter monica alba. so the new rules surrounding

who's getting checked, why are they going into place now, and what does it have to do with what the president said on saturday, which is that he wanted less testing because less testing meant less cases? >> well, katy, it really appears to be the white house and the president wanting to put the worst of the pandemic behind them. and you see that here, just in this significant new change to procedures for months, anybody who entered this white house complex was screened for a temperature check and other health questions before being allowed to enter. that is no longer the case starting today, given the white house says that the washington area has now gone into what is known as phase two, but there's nothing in that language that suggests that people don't need to be careful, especially if they may have some symptoms that could suggest they have coronavirus. and this comes as the president's own advance team on the ground in tulsa that included secret service personnel tested positive for the virus, but the white house is wanting to take a step back and say we don't have to do the same kind of measures and

precautions we were doing as early as march, april, and may. they're now looking to push that forward, and it comes as white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany had to answer questions specifically on what the president said on saturday night in tulsa, which when he said it, didn't appear to be a joke. people were not laughing there when he said he had asked officials to slow down coronavirus testing. now, a white house official was telling us that was said in jest, and kayleigh mcenany echoed that argument, though it doesn't seem to be a convincing one. take a listen to what she said just moments ago. >> it was a comment that he made in jest. it's a comment he made in passing. specifically with regard to the media coverage and pointing out the fact that the media never acknowledges that we have more cases because when you test more people, you find more cases. >> we should point out, katy, the president has made similar comments in the past, and the white house hasn't said he was joking in those instances. it's clear he wants to see less cases.

and by some metrics in his view, that would mean lest tessing. he has said that in several events in the last couple weeks, katy. >> he also said if you stop testing, you won't have any more cases, even though that doesn't actually make any sense. monica alba, from the white house, thank you very much. and as we noted earlier, over the weekend, the president claimed he told officials to slow down covid testing. we were just talking about it with monica, and white house officials, as monica just showed, have pushed back. but the president was asked about it this morning in a local news radio, and he refused to -- a news interview, excuse me, and he refused to deny it. take a listen. >> we're doing so much testing, 25 million tests. nobody thought that was possible. >> did you ask to slow it down? >> if it did slow down, frankly, i think we're way ahead of ourselves if you want to know the truth. we have done too good of a truth. every time we go, with 25 million tests, you find more people. then this say, oh, we have more

cases in the united states. the reason we have more cases is because we do more testing than any other country by far. >> let's bring in mark lauder, director of strategic communications for the trump re-election campaign. mark, always good to see you. i'm curious, we hear the president there talking about slowing down testing. he said he was joking about it at the rally. the rally didn't have as many people as you had expected. is this a sign that the president may not be on the same page with even a lot of his supporters that this virus is not going away, it is not going to be business as usual, and it is still a very serious threat? >> well, i think one of the good signs we are seeing is that the level of fatality is dropping. and also, i'm hearing anecdotally and i think there are numbers to back that up, that says the amount of hospitalization is also dropping. we're seeing that as some of the new cases are being discovered, they're being discovered with milder symptoms that may not

require as much hospitalization and ultimately hopefully will lead to fewer people succumbing to the disease. when i look from the rally overall, when you take a look at all of the viewers that we had on our online platforms and as well as some of the television ratings we have seen, 18 million people were watching that rally on saturday night. i think that re-enforces that there is a very strong energy and enthusiasm for the president. >> i want to go back to what you just said about hospitalizations. health experts and officials are much more worried about this spiking and what's happening at the hospitals. we just had somebody on with vaughn hillyard who was saying they were worried about the number of cases they would be able to treat in their hospital, the number of icu beds they had. states like new york have dealt with a big crisis and have gotten over it by locking down. there are other states that have not done so that are certainly

very worried about the situation in their hospitals. but my question more specifically was, is the president not on the same page as his supporters? you said millions of people watched online, and on television, that is true. fox news saw a lot of -- very big ratings for the rally. i'm talking about, is he not on the same page for how he believes you can reopen the country and go back to normal, hold a political rally, when only 6,000 people showed up in a 19,000-person arena? >> i think he is on the same page, and the fact that we're allowing people to make that chose for themselves. i know there were probably many people who preferred to stay home and watch it online or watch it on television. there were also those who wanted to come there and watch it in person. i know there were some wearing masks. some chose not to wear masks. and so i think giving this as the option and recognizing that we have that freedom of choice is exactly in line with what the

president's supporters are thinking, and i think many people are thinking, is that there are some things people feel comfortable doing right now, some other people maybe because of personal health issues or those, you know, maybe they have older folks in their family they're worried about exposing, they don't feel safe taking those risks. it's up to each american to make that decision for themselves. >> mark, you still were expecting to sell out that arena or at least pack that arena, so much so that you had an overflow area ready for the president and the vice president. when you take the people who showed up for this rally, you take all the polling that's out there that shows the president trailing joe biden in the majority of swing states, you talk about where the economy is right now, you talk about the pandemic and us not being on the other side of it. all of the racial unrest, when you put all of those things together, do you still feel good about where the campaign is right now? >> absolutely. i'll tell you, the biggest stat

that i'm looking at right now is of the 26 or 27 states that have already conducted their primaries, in i believe 21 of those, might be 23, 21 or 23 of those, the president has gotten more votes in a noncontested primary than any sitting president of either party going back for many, many, many decades. so those are the kinds of enthusiasm numbers we're seeing in many cases we're seeing that president trump is pulling in three, four times the number of votes that barack obama got in 2012 or even george w. bush received in 2004. tells you the amount of energy and excitement that is out there for the president. that's the kind of thing i'm looking at, and when i look at also our internal numbers, as people learn more and more about the record of joe biden, they're more and more likely to vote for president trump. >> you're looking at your internal numbers. i want to go back to this.

goo 52% of the country does not think the president is doing a good job. 52% disapproves of him according to polling averages. the economy is at 13% to 16% unemployment. there's not a lot of confidence that it's going to get much better than that come november. he's running on the economy. he wants to run on the economy. you're telling me, and with 6300 people who showed up to red, red, red oklahoma, tulsa, when you were expecting 100,000 to show up, and you're telling me everything is fine? >> well, i'm telling you we've still got five months of work to do, but one of the great things is we're so far in front anyway. we have been making tens of millions of phone calls through the coronavirus pandemic when everyone was pretty much locked in. >> polling does not show you in front. >> well, that's public polling. and of the 260 some polls in 2016 that were taken between now and election day, the president

was ahead in i believe 16 of them. we know he won on election day. i really don't think many of the pollsters have fixed a lot of the problems that they encountered in 2016, so by our metrics internally, we're ahead of where we're supposed to be, and we'll continue building on that. >> mark lauder, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your time, sir. >> good to see you, katy. and still to come, why are experts seeing a rise in coronavirus infections among young adults? plus, after new york state and new york city banned the use of choke holds, an nypd officer is suspended afterhe was caught on video using one. first, though, the expected showdown in the house and the senate this week on federal police reform.

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suspended without pay after using an apparent choke hold on a black man. the recorded confrontation happened on a boardwalk in queens. officers can be seen tackling 35-year-old ricky bellevue, who relatives say has a history of mental illness. one officer puts his arm around bellevue's neck as he lies face down, only releasing his grip after a fellow police officer taps him on the back and tugs on his shirt. within hours of that video, commissioner dermott shea said the nypd took swift disciplinary action against that officer. the incident comes a little more than a week after both new york state and new york city passed police reforms criminalizing the use of choke holds. the nypd had already even banned it. in a matter of days, congress is set for its own showdown on police reform legislation with votes in the house and senate. joining me is capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. garrett, with this video, do

lawmakers over there feel any more of a sense of urgency? >> well, i think the sense of urgency was already ratcheted up pretty high here. speaker pelosi alluded to this when she said public opinion essentially demands that congress act on this issue in a way that we have not seen even in other, you know, kind of major legislative opportunities, let's say, in which congress has failed to act in the past. so on thursday, the house will vote up or down on passage of their justice in policing act. but the bigger vote is probably going to be the one happening on wednesday, the vote in the senate about whether to even open debate on the senate republican introduced bill. their justice act, which also reforms policing. democrats have said it does not go nearly far enough. it doesn't outright ban choke holds, it doesn't eliminate no-knock warrants which the house democratic bill does at the federal level. the decision democrats will be

making and they'll be making some of it today, do they vote down the republican bill and say this doesn't go nearly far enough. we're not even going to have this conversation, or do they allow debate to open if they in fact can be convinced that debate can be open, that their amendments would be allowed, that maybe they can fashion this bill into something they think actually meets the moment, which democrats say it does not do just yet. republicans need at least seven democrats to agree with them to take that first step. >> garrett haake on capitol hill, thank you very much. >> and joining me now is former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst paul butler. paul, i want to get your take on a couple things that are holding up what would be a compromise, potentially, between the democrats and the republicans. that's qualified immunity, no-knock warrants, choke holds, potentially even data collection. democrats want all of these things in the bill. if they are not able to get into legislation that can pass the senate and then get signed by the president, is police reform going to be that effective?

how necessary are these things? >> accountability is key, katy, and the democratic bill goes further in making officers accountable. now, there are some areas where they should be able to find common ground, like making choke holds illegal, like a national database on disciplining cops to prevent dirty officers who have been fired from one department from joining another. and also making lynching a federal crime. in terms of accountability, the reason the democratic bill goes further is because it makes it easier to criminally prosecute officers and also it reduces the qualified immunity that protects officers from civil lawsuits. essentially, qualified immunity, the defense is you can't sue me. i'm a cop. and when we look at places like new york city, where choke holds have been banned for almost 25

years, yet the nypd receives hundreds of complaints of officers using these choke holds, one reason is there is no accountability when officers are found to be in violation of the rules. there are usually no consequences. >> let me ask you about that because the new york city council and new york state have both criminalized the use of choke holds. as you said, the nypd has banned it nufor, you said, 25 years. we just saw it happening again on a boardwalk in queens from over the weekend, where an officer was using an apparent choke hold, and his fellow officer had to tell him to stop. so in this scenario, where he's using that, he's in violation already of the nypd rules. what does it mean for him if he were to be prosecuted now that new york state and new york city council have made it -- have criminalized it, does qualified immunity there help him, does it matter in a scenario like this? >> the criminal prosecution qualified immunity doesn't

matter. so if this officer is prosecuted for this new law that makes it a crime for police officers to use choke holds, then he can't claim this qualified immunity protection. what we do know, though, is that police unions offer huge protections to cops when they are subject to disciplinary proceedings. they have lots of special rules that don't apply to other folks who are being investigated in the workplace. and until these police unions lose some of their power to influence things like how officers use force, we can expect choke holds to go on when officers feel like it's in their best interest, even if they're against the rules. >> so basically, if the country, if the federal government adopted what new york state and new york city is doing by criminalizing it, it would make it easier to prosecute an officer if he is in violation

and using a choke hold, even if it was already banned by his police department, his or her police department? >> yes, that's right. and another part of the change that's urgent is the culture. so president obama's commission on 21st century policing said the problem is too many cops think of themselves as warriors, guardian is the better model. if you think about who is going to apply for a job as a warrior, it's somebody with a whole different resume and skill set than someone who wants to be a guardian. so a warrior might be in the job because you get to go rough and tough with the bad guys. you get to use force. that's not the same idea that a guardian has who wants to keep our community safe and healthy. and so unless you get this culture change, this systemic change, then all of these reforms aren't going to matter. >> paul butler, paul, thanks so much for joining us today. we appreciate it.

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now to the latest on the pandemic. here are the facts we know at this hour. the world health organization reported a record increase in global coronavirus cases. 183,000 in just one day. the u.s. and brazil are driving those new case numbers up. india reported a record number of new coronavirus cases today. the country's hospital system is threatening to buckle under the pressure, as cases there surge. germany's embassy warns that health care may not be available at all if they get sick. and an attempted return to

competitive tennis ended with four people testing positive for covid-19. and exhibition event hosted or organized by novak djokovic was canceled after two top players tested positive. a coach and a fitness trainer traveling with the players also tested positive. today, new york city begins phase two of its reopening. that means outdoor dining will be allowed for the first time in months. salons and barbershops can reopen, and thousands of offices will welcome back employees. joining me from new york city is nbc news reporter dasha burns. it's a big step for the city. what does it look like both for businesses on the street and for those that are going back to their offices? >> well, katy, right now, i'm in the heart of times square. i'm actually going to have my camera pan over to 42nd street here. certainly still nothing like prepandemic new york, but i'm

also not getting quite the post apocalyptic vibe you may have seen here even just a couple weeks ago at the beginning of phase one. new york mayor bill de blasio says around 300,000 people could be getting back to work as part of phase two because of those businesses reopening that you mentioned. to really revive the pulse of the city, that's going to depend on the heart of it, right here, the new york subway. typically, 5.6 million daily riders. that plummeted more than 90% during the peak of the pandemic. now, transit officials tell us those numbers are beginning to creep up. they have made significant changes, everything from daily disinfections to mandatory masks. the big question as the crowds get bigger is what about social distancing? i asked the head of the transit authority here that question. take a listen to what he said. >> can you really enforce social distancing, especially during those peak ridership hours? >> we have been very candid with our riders. the standard is six feet, if

you're closer, you have to wear a mask. we're not promising our customers social distancing on subways as they get crowded. >> and katy, i actually took the seven train from queens. it brings a lot of workers from the outer borough into midtown manhattan to these businesses. and the riders i spoke with, they had a pretty common refrain, which was that they are nervous to get on the train, but they also say it's necessary. it's necessary for their paycheck, and it's necessary to get the city back on track, katy. >> you know, dasha, i was talking to researchers in scotland who are doing experiments on masks to see how effective they are, and the one thing that they told me was that if you're going to take public transportation, be really careful because although the mask protects you and the person in front of you, face-to-face, and in direct contact, it's through the sides and behind you that you have to worry about potentially getting -- being exposed to a person's breath,

their droplets, so if you're on a train, if you're in mass transit, be very aware of who's beside you and behind you, because those are your potentially most exposed or most vulnerable areas. dasha burns, in times square, thank you very much. >> i saw a lot of people surfing on the subway out there. >> try not to touch anything or at least use hand sanitizer. thank you very much. as coronavirus cases increase across the south and the west, health experts are warning of a new trend among those contracting the virus. there are more people in their 20s and 30s testing positive. joining me now is the director of columbia university's national center for disaster preparedness. doctor, naturally, if we're testing more people and we have been testing more people, aren't you going to see more people in their 20s and 30s testing positive? isn't the better indicator whether those people in their

20s and 30s are being hospitalized? >> a lot of people are getting sick, and hospitalizations are increasing all across the sun belt and other parts of the u.s. i think this is not going to end well. we have seriously more cases. we have more hospitalizations. we have fewer fatalities because there are a lot of younger people who are not going to be as subject to not surviving as others, but we have a real problem. i think one of the issues is a lot of younger people get the message that we're reopening, and they hear -- what they're hearing is we're back to normal, and we're certainly not. and i'm really concerned. >> so if you are going to go out, and there are states that are reopening. new york, for instance, you can sit outside and have outdoor dining now. what is the best advice for those who are going to leave their house and either need to go back to their jobs or want to be out there and want to start socializing in a way that they have not been able to do for the past few months. if they're going to do it regardless, what is the best way

to do it? >> the best thing to do, and let me be very clear about this, you must wear a mask outside, and you must social distance. i have said from end of april, this is too soon to have reopened. we don't have enough testing available. that's being done at the right places and at the right times. and i'm still worried. and i'm worried about the public transportation and people crowded together on subways. this is just not going to end well. and i think we're going to see ourselves having to close things that have been reopened, including schools when they finally open in september. and by the way, this is not a second wave. we're still in the first wave and deep in it, katy. >> so infection rates are still pretty high. we can see that every day with the number of cases that we're reporting on. but the death rate is falling. is that good news? is that bad news? are we -- >> of course -- >> are we in for something later on? of course, it's not bad news. >> yeah, no, it's good that the

fatality rates are dropping, and that's because we're testing more younger people. which we should be. and they're not as subject to dying from this disease as older people. but we knew from the beginning that at least 50% of every single person in the united states is going to test positive. and that ultimately, the fatality rates will drop. but this is still a very active pandemic. what i'm really worried about now is i'm saying again, the reclosing of businesses, schools, and other places that have already opened. and that will be really a shame, and difficult for people to deal with. >> very difficult. doctor, always good to see you. thank you very much for joining us. >> likewise, katy. thanks. and coming up next, we're going to go to atlanta, as the city prepares to say good-bye to rayshard brooks. the man who was killed in that confrontation with police outside of a wendy's. and as we learn that a symbol of hate and racism was found inside the garage stall of the only black driver in nascar's top

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today, the city of atlanta begins paying its final respects to rayshard brooks. a public viewing will be held today from 3:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. at the historic ebenezer baptist church in atlanta before his funeral service tomorrow.

the 27-year-old father was shot and killed by an atlanta police officer on june 12th. joining me now from atlanta is nbc news correspondent rehema ellis. so rehema, tell me what it's like to be there today. >> it's extraordinary in many ways, because of what's happening. people are just now starting to line up. we're going to pan just a little bit so you can see. they have been encouraged to socially distance themselves from one another. the church wants to make certain that as people grieve, they also remain safe in the process of doing it. ebenezer baptist church, which holds some 2,000 people, is only going to allow 200 people in at a time. but katy, i want to show you something else. i'm going to step to the side so my cameraman can zoom in a little bit. you see the hurst. the body of mr. brooks was brought in just a short while ago. his widow went in also. and on the side of it, it says killed. rayshard brooks. they give his date. i have never seen that kind of a message on the side of it,

telling you how a person died. that it was not by natural causes. in this instance, it was at the hands of police. and this whole community is remembering that today. this as you point out is the beginning of two remembrances of mr. brooks. the wake today and then the funeral tomorrow. it will be a private funeral. what they're also going to be encouraging is people are going to have their temperatures checked, and they're going to be asked to wear masks. again, it's all about trying to make certain that people remain safe, katy, as they grieve for what happened. the city that exploded in protests following his death and the police chief ended up resigning. two officers were arrested and charged for his murder, as they're calling it, from the district attorney's office. there have since been charges that say they acted too quickly and some are calling for an independent investigator saying the district attorney moved too

quickly in pressing charges here, and also some law enforcement officers, a number of them have been called out sick, and the interim police chief now is having to shuffle around some officers in order to make certain that the city continues to be watched over safely during all of this. katy. >> rehema, i have never seen anything like that either. and seeing the sign on the side of the hearst, killed in atlanta, georgia, 2020, makes the hair on your arms stand up. powerful. a powerful image. rehema ellis, thank you very much. and nascar's rain delayed race at the talladega superspeedway in alabama will take place a couple minutes from now after a dark day on the track. nascar has called the fbi to investigate a noose found hanging in the garage stall of bubba wallace, the only black driver in the cup series. and they found this late sunday evening. alabama's governor condemned the

incident today in a statement, saying, quote, there's no place for this disgusting display of hatred in our state. racism and threats of this nature will not be condoned nor tolerated. and i commit to assisting in any way possible to insure that the person responsible for this is caught and punished. this comes on the heels of them banning confederate flags at the track. nbc news correspondent sam brock has more. >> a disturbing discovery, a noose found in the garage stall of bubba wallace at the talladega superspeedway in lincoln, alabama, on sunday. less than two weeks after wallace, who is nascar's only full-time black driver, successfully convinced the racing series to ban the confederate flag at its tracks and facilities. he responded saying today's despicable act of hatred and racism leaves me saddened and serves as a painful reminder how much firths we have to go in society and how persistent we

have to be in the fight against racem. nascar releasing a statement saying we are angry and outraged and can't stress how seriously we have taken this act. we will launch an immediate investigation and do everything we can to find the person responsible and elimnatd them from the sport. lebron james offering his support, saying no, you don't stand alone. i'm right here with you as well as every other athlete. i want to continue to say how proud am of you for taking a stand for america and sports. nascar, i salute you as well. it comes as that confederate flag ban was met from resistance by some fans returning to the track. a confederate flag with a defund nascar banner was seen flying overhead. on the ground, dozens of vehicles outside the speedway waving the flag. >> he's going to lay the bumper to jimmie johnson. >> wallace has been the catalyst for change in the predominantly white sport. recently donning a shirt that said "i can't breathe." his car getting a new paint job displaying black lives matter. craig recently spoke to wallace

before this latest incident. >> what would you say to the other folks who have said for years now that the flag is about heritage, not hate? >> we're not saying you can't fly it at your house. you can do whatever you want. when it comes to a sporting event where we want all races, everybody to be included, inclusion is what we're trying to accomplish here. we're trying for unity. >> that was sam brock reporting for us. sam, thank you very much. and coming up next, the u.s. attorney who investigated the president's allies is ousted after a standoff with the attorney general. there's new reaction from the white house coming up next. stock slices. for as little as $5, now anyone can own companies in the s&p 500, even if their shares cost more. at $5 a slice, you could own ten companies for $50 instead of paying thousands. all commission free online. schwab stock slices: an easy way to start investing

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no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. democrats want now ousted u.s. attorney geoffrey berman to testify before the house. the invitation comes as attorney general bill barr ended -- made the decision to force berman to step aside.

it started with barr announcing berman's resignation on friday and berman responded by denying he ever stepped down. by saturday, barr claimed that president had fired berman at his request. it appeared that he was not aware of it as he departed for tulsa on saturday, at least he claims he wasn't aware of it. he distanced himself. >> why did you fire him. >> that's all up to the attorney general, attorney general barr is working on that, that's his department, not my department. but we have a very capable attorney general so that's rally up to him. i'm not involved. >> let's bring in nbc news investigation correspondent tom winter. what do we know. >> at this point, our understanding is that the person who was nominated to replace geoffrey berman, jay clayton who currently heads the s.e.c., he lobbied the president personally

during a game of golf at bedminster trump course and said, i'm looking to move back to new york, i'd really like this position and it can help kind of burnish my resume. he has no experience as prosecutor. he's got no experience as a lit gator. so, his choice here is a little bit questionable, i mean, it seems kind of a sloppy effort here by the attorney general to essentially picking somebody -- saying that he's going to nominate them thinking geoffrey berman who's done a good job as attorney general of in new york would step down. some say there's no indication of any major case yet to be publicly announced that could have led to this firing. not sort of bombshell indictment that was coming. and i thinkty appointment of

berman's deputy, which he was pushing, if he was going to be pushed out the door, he was pushing for his deputy to take over, audrey strausss. she tried 20 cases, which is a lot as a prosecutor. somebody who's part of the independent counsel looking into iran contra. she has a terrific back ground, very familiar with the office. overseeing a lot of these cases day-to-day, katy, lot of continuity going forward. >> lot of questions about motivation for getting rid of berman and replacing him with that particular person, tom winter, tom, thanks so much for helping us to try to understand it today. not quite understandable quite yet. but we appreciate the effort. what with can know so far. i'm back at 5:00 for meet the

press daily. after all it's monday and that's when i fill in for chuck on "meet the press daily."

good day. brian williams here with you. 3:00 p.m. here in the east. 12 noon on the west coast. nicolle wallace enjoying a well-deserved day off. we begin with a trio of troubles for donald trump, including a pandemic that he wishes very

much would go away, but sadly isn't going anywhere. several of the first states to reopen, including but not limited to, texas, florida, arizona, oklahoma, are in the midst of experiencing huge spikes in coronavirus cases. some are seeing a record number of new infections almost every day. so far, over 2 million americans have been sickened, over 120,000 have died from the virus, the president and a lot of his republican allies blame increasing testing for the spike in infections and he told his rally audience this weekend that he told his own staff to slow it down. >> they called me, they said the job you're doing -- here's the bad part, when you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people and more cases. so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. >> a senior white house official instantly said the president was

speaking in jest, but then there was this exchange with scripps television just today. >> did you ask to slow it down? >> if it did slow down, frankly i think we're way ahead of ourselves. we have done too good of a job. >> white house press secretary mcenany was asked about the president's use of a racest term to describe the coronavirus. >> going back to kung fu. i talked to kellyanne, she said it was highly offensive and wrong. did the president agree with kellyanne conway? >> the president does not believe it's offensive to note that this virus came from china, and to stand up for u.s. military who china's active effort to completely defame. that's completely unacceptable

to the president. >> yamiche alcindor with the aggressive questioning there. there were a sea of empty seats in the 19,000-seat arena in tulsa. despite the president and his campaign saying that over 1 million people had requested tickets. according the tulsa fire department, just over 6200 people showed up. the campaign expected such a large audience they set up an overflow area outside adjacent to the venue, only to take it down after the crowd failed to materialize. much reporting over the weekend that the president was naturally furious about the underwhelming crowd in tulsa. he's also upset that six members of the advanced team tested positive for coronavirus. here's how trump's strategic communications director try to

spin it on the fox business network. >> you're sitting here with your family, do we want to drive eight hours where people have been camping out for a week in the hopes of 20,000 getting in? you know what, i'll watch this on television and 10 million people did. so, i think a lot -- we're a victim of our own success. >> donald trump is still angry over that explosive new book written by his former national security adviser john bolton, officially comes out tomorrow, a ton of folks already have advance copies 37 over the weekend, a federal judge rejected the trump administration's request to block it from being published. considering it's shipped already. the judge said that bolton may face criminal. here's what bolton has to say

about his former boss on "good morning america chl". >> one of the most important things that i learned in watching donald trump up front, he doesn't have any philosophy. he doesn't proceed on the basis on a grand strategy or policy. it's all about donald trump. that to me is a lesson for americans as a whole. particularly for conservative republicans. if trump wins re-election, which is entirely possible, there's no more guardrail based on what the republican party may think about him. >> president responded by calling john bolton grossly incompetent and liar. at this point, let's start off our conversation this afternoon, phil rucker, co-author of the bestseller "a very stable genius." also with us kimberly atkins.

both phil and kim are msnbc contributors. good afternoon and welcome to you both. mr. rucker, i'll begin with quoting one of my favorite writers, phil rucker of the washington post, the thousands of empty arena chairs after his campaign had hyped overflow crowds and ticket requests totalling more than 1 million, symbolized the beleaguered state of trump presidency and of his quest to win a second term. to a nation broken by a pandemic and recession -- and with a racial justice movement royaling communities across the country. trumped offered no reconciliation, instead put up a fight. to give us distance enough to kind of say, what was that? where was the crowd? how much credence to put in the

campaign of teenagers on the web grabbing up hundreds of tickets in blocks to inflate the expe expected the crowd size, the campaign briefly tried to say, the crowd stayed away because they were intimidated, the threat of violence outside? >> the truth, brian, at this hour is that we don't know entirely what happened and why that crowd was so very small for president trump on saturday. i would assume it's some combination of all the factors that you mentioned. the problem for the president is is that the scene became a humiliation for him as he was trying to restart his campaign, trying to show the coronavirus is in the rearview mirror and that he has momentum in a re-election campaign in which virtually every poll for the last several weeks now has shown

him at a very sizable deficit to the former vice president joe biden. it did not materialize obviously the way the president wanted, the president was angry about it. which is entirely in keeping in how he views crowd size. he's been obsessed with the sizes of his crowds for years now. this is such a stinging moment for him as he tries to resume these campaign rally and kim atkins for americans who follow life on social media, it was really the new highwater mark for the lincoln project, all of them, the realtime trolling of the event, had to set records in the area of realtime trolling. could it be that messaging to the contrary on conservative media, people really did have a gut-check, that people at a very basis level understand the

threat of coronavirus, they heard enough mentions that this was the largest indoor gathering of any kind since coronavirus arrived on our shores and at the end of the day they just couldn't pull the trigger and go. >> i think that certainly is a factor. i think the trump campaign may have been a victim of its own hyping, regardless of the basis of their claims that a million tickets had been reserved for this event. the actual hyping about how big it would be and contrasted by recent reports about spikes in the coronavirus cases, particularly in southern and western states might have given people pause, even supporters saying they could choose to watch it from home. that certainly is a case in this case perhaps, the president's dismissal of the fears of the

coronavirus hasn't reached every single one of his supporters. >> and phil rucker, i don't think we've spent enough time on his verbiage. the headline in your paper reads with kung flu, thugs and our heritage, trump leans on racial grievance as he reaches for a campaign reset. the sub headline is, during a movement not a moment and while his country is changing on the fly, on a daily basis. >> that's right, brian, and what we see from the president is he's not really responding to the social movement out in the streets of our cities that we see playing out at an extraordinary level these last few weeks. instead he's going back to his old playbook from 2016, when he's in a corner, when he's in a difficult moment politically he tries to rouse his mostly white

supporters with racist tropes and with other cultural divisions and he clearly tried to stoke those on stage in tulsa on saturday night including using a racist phrase to describe the origin of the coronavirus in china, which is something that the white house press secretary was questioned on repeatedly this afternoon and she would not utter that same phrase herself but she defended the president's use of it and says he has every right to point out that the virus was from china. >> kim atkins, so much had been said about that shot coming off the helicopter on the south lawn. our friend at cbs news reckons it was his 500th flight on the marine one helicopter, this is a president who says very little by accident. does very little by accident. but once in a great while --

accidentally allows his feelings, his mood to show through and i think so much has been made as i said already about this shot of him returning home late late at night, this may live on for a bit. >> i think that it will. i mean, obviously i was not in the president's head at that moment but he has to realize that based on the turnout, the lack thereof, the lack of overflow crowd, and at some point he has to understand that the movement the sentiment in the country has changed significantly since four years ago, and that all of the dog whistling which isn't dog whistling it's not even a megaphone anymore, it's a public service announcement of these racist themes that he seems to go back to, that he's trying to galvanize a small segment within

the country, the agrieved white working-class person, and slowly he's losing other people, he's losing women, he's losing people in suburbs, he's not a part of the movement the black lives matter movement, which has a majority support according to recent polling which he painted as the opponent, as the enemy. and perhaps, that's no longer working and without that and without the strong economy he was banking on, his prospects of re-election might be a lot more difficult than he anticipated even a month ago, perhaps that was on his mind as he departed marine one. >> and phil, let's take kimberly's point and talk about juicy personnel matters, the president gets to decide the theme and tone of his campaign and proven despite best laid plans he tends to go off on his own, what about in the wake of

this rally personnel changes at this campaign? >> you know, brian, everybody who works for president trump knows they could be fired at any given moment that's been the nature of this white house, that was the nature of his 2016 campaign and that presumably would include his current campaign as well. brad prascale has been the campaign manager, he was touted the one-million-plus ticket request for this rally in tulsa and a lot of people in trump's political orbit are holding him largely responsible for the failure of the crowd to show up in tulsa and that miscalculation. whether the president actually makes a move and tries to remove him as campaign manager, only the president knows and we'll have to see. i'd be surprised if it's right

away, because it will be a concession that the rally failed. but perhaps, his standing will diminish in the days to come. i don't know, we'll have to see. the force in charge of the campaign is jared kushner, trump's son-in-law and brad has been seen a rally, righthand to jared in the operation. >> see that's where it gets interesting. our thanks to two of our friends to start off our afternoon coverage on a monday. phil rucker and kimberly atkins, thank you. a break in our coverage. when we come back -- attorney general bill barr once again working on behalf of his boss, by ousting the u.s. attorney who was overseeing investigations of key trump allies, the question today -- what happens to those investigations?

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the department of justice facing new questions today after the ousting of the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. a hugely powerful position.

the sdny as it called played a critical role in the el impeachment investigations. it's in effect the justice department manhattan bureau. geoffrey berman resigned after a tense back and forth with attorney general bill barr, berman was reportedly investigating some of president trump's closest allies, including his personal lawyer rudy giuliani. on friday, barr announced berman's exit in a press release which was news to the u.s. attorney. berman refused to step down on friday evening, while we were on the air in fact, indicating he would continue to serve. on saturday barr fired back, claiming that the order came straight from the top. minutes later, the president distanced himself from, contradicting bill barr and that

the decision was up to the ag. despite the mixed messages by 6:00 p.m. eastern time saturday, berman agreed to resign, he suggested he gave up the fight after barr acknowledged berman's deputy audrey strauss would take over. strauss is popular within the n sdny staff. fresh criticism that barr has politicized the doj. just this amp, we're learning more about underlying tensions between barr and berman, according to the wall street journal the day before he was fired berman refused to sign a letter criticizing the mayor of new york for enforcing social distancing rules to block religious gatherings but not the recent national protests in the streets. the report goes on to, read, quote two people familiar with the matter said that mr.

berman's refusal aggravated mr. barr who already regarded berman as obstinate and divfficult to work with. we turn now to chuck rosenberg. a career with doj that spanned more than two decades. he's an msnbc legal analyst. so, chuck, as a u.s. attorney how much autonomy did you feel you had, how much were you checking in with the home office, another way of asking you, how not normal is this story out of new york? >> this story out of new york is not normal. it was very fortunate. i had adult leadership, brian, i had tremendous autonomy. there are times i wanted to

consult with headquarters. but never once, brian, never once did headquarters interfere in our work. and so what you're seeing out of new york is both unusual and deeply troubling. >> i want to read you a quote from "the new york times," a fell fellow former u.s. attorney, as attempted power plays goes this was an abject failure and further to undermine the credibility of both the attorney general and the president, said a former federal prosecutor. so, what happens next, chuck? they've named their choice of successor. former private sector lawyer who's now running the securities and exchange commission but has no prosecutorial experience, the job heading the sdny is nothing

if not prosecutorial, though the attorney who's going to be running it on an interim basis, a senate approval is said to be popular in house. >> well, she's popular in house because she comes from in house, she has a wonderful reputation and a lot of credibility among the men and women in the southern district of new york. by the way, it's quite normal when the u.s. attorney resigns or removed as mr. berman was for the chief deputy to step in and that was audrey strauss. the quote you showed earlier is right. i don't think that bill barr has earned that presums through misdeeds and mismanagement and politicalization of the department, he's earned an adverse -- he's mischaracterized the mueller report, we saw that debacle in lafayette square during the protests and we've

seen the president and the attorney general weigh in favorably on behalf of allies of the president like roger stone and michael flynn. you know, even if it was non-nefarious, we draw this adverse inference. >> we often describe the southern district of new york with words like powerful, its nickname in law is sovereign district of new york. tell folks watching why that is. i struggled to describe what it is and have come up with the definition, the manhattan bureau of the department of justice, it's kind of an island in lower manhattan where feds rule. >> it's the oldest u.s. attorney's office in the country. it began its operation even before the supreme court of the united states began its operations. . brian, i think it's also important to pull the camera

back and take a broad view, you have 94 u.s. attorney's offices around the country. they all are proudly independent. some don't handle cases of the same magnitude of the sdny and offices that i ran in the eastern district of virginia and the southern district of texas, but they are all proud of their independence and they should be sovereign, among those 94 u.s. attorneys offices the southern district of new york has a well-deserved reputation for handling some of the biggest and most important and most difficult cases in the country. and so, you know, messing with our independence, politicizing the criminal enforcement work of the department of justice, whether it's in district of idaho or the southern district of new york, is an awful thing to do to our justice department. >> counselor, good to see you

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north carolina is becoming more ill with this virus. our numbers are rising. our numbers of hospitalized

patients requiring oxygen as well as those who are requiring life support are rising. it's very overwhelming. it's very tiring. it's the kind of tired that sleep just fix. i worry about my friends, my family, my patients. >> these doctor testimonial we're starting to see more and more on social media take you back to the battle days of march and april in our country, where they were so prevalent, did you recognize the skyline behind that particular doctor? her name is alexis smith, she practices in charlotte, north carolina, city and state where cases of coronavirus are on the rise. as the larming national and global spikes in coronavirus cases have renewed this concern, the stress for healthcare workers like dr. smith, here now are the facts