patients requiring oxygen as well as those who are requiring life support are rising. it's very overwhelming. it's very tiring. it's the kind of tired that sleep just fix. i worry about my friends, my family, my patients. >> these doctor testimonial we're starting to see more and more on social media take you back to the battle days of march and april in our country, where they were so prevalent, did you recognize the skyline behind that particular doctor? her name is alexis smith, she practices in charlotte, north carolina, city and state where cases of coronavirus are on the rise. as the larming national and global spikes in coronavirus cases have renewed this concern, the stress for healthcare workers like dr. smith, here now are the facts on this front as we know them at this hour.

the w.h. omplt, the world health organization from which the u.s. has pulled its support and funding reports it received a record of more than 183,000 confirmed cases. that would bring the global total to more than 8.9 million cases, more than 468,000 deaths. those new cases are largely right here in the united states. we have over 2.3 million americans infected. about 120,000 souls have lost their lives here because of this. washington post reports that over two dozen states and u.s. territories have now seen their new seven-day case increase. a different story in new york city, now entering phase two of reopening as they call it, with offices, stores, salons, outdoor

dining all open for business starting today. but under those very same strict safety restrictions. the biggest regions of our country continue to be in the southern and western portions, just yesterday, california, oklahoma, missouri broke their own state records for new cases in one day. florida has reached a very grim milestone. over 100,000 confirmed infections after officials reported nearly 3,000 new cases just this morning. our veteran nbc news correspondent kerry sanders is in florida for us where the outbreak is hitting especially hard. kerry, i want to talk specifically about remarks the governor there made last week. to people outside the state when we first heard them, it sounded like they were trying to pawn off some of the lack of pandemic rigor they've been observing,

pawn off reports about monkeying with the state's numbers and standards for who has died from coronavirus and who has not, pawn off his own deal to reopen, les he upset his good friend, the president of the united states. the governor talked about farm labor in the state of florida as if he was trying to blame it for most if not all of the spike while -- i know you're prepared to report it is a huge problem, the amount and virulence of the illness that is just rifling through that community. >> reporter: brian, that's why we came to this town of imm osho immokolee, florida, there were strong indications that the department of health wasn't

servicing this community, doctors without borders actually set up facilities in this city to help people out that's very rare, doctors without borders is an organization that works around the world, rarely do we see them in the united states, statistically 1 in 25 people here are testing positive for coronavirus. it's a troubling statistic and one here folks say, because they not only live in small areas and ride in buses together out to the farm fields where, because of the proximity of where the tractors moving along, they have to work in close quarters to pick the items and the fruits and vegetables to put them on the tractors and when they attempted to go to the florida department of health the hours weren't conducive to their lives while they were working. take a look at the graph that we

have here of what's been going on across the state in florida. doctors say this was inevitable as you see that climb in the graph in part because there's no state mandate of how this should be done. in florida the governor has decided he's going to hand over the authority primarily to mayors and counties to determine how they'd like to handle whether people have to do things like wear a mask, in miami, they now require it, but other parts of the state they don't. tampa, it's now required. people were complaining the mayor there decided to hand out over this weekend, 120,000 masks. but take a look at the video as we see in these communities where people are not necessarily socially distancing, not everybody wearing masks, people going to bars, and if you're at bar you're snacking on some snacks, the mask might be around your neck. all the things that work against

the doctors telling us what should be done. here, you have to understand these folks tell us they didn't have the option for work at home. they had to go out there to work if they were going to pay their bills. this is what one of those told us >> translator: when we all come together, we're all very close together. the women are covered up, even our faces. how are we going to pay for rent, water, electricity and even pay our cell phone? >> reporter: and now the most important little underscoring all of this, as the governor placed blame and pointed the finger at the farm workers, understand they're migrant farm workers the harvest is completed here and they're moving north up to georgia, south carolina, north carolina, and so among the farm workers i have spoken to here, they're saying if nothing

else please put a message out to the governors in those states to learn from what they call florida's mistakes, have health services available to them and don't wait for people to come to them, send your health service people out to them in the camps where they live and where they go every day from so they're not necessarily isolated. that's isolation is what they believe is why they've been unrecognized. 1 in 25 testing positive for coronavirus. brian? >> an incredible story for all of the nice viewers watching who have donated over the years to doctors without borders, because of their help in war zones and far flung places now your donated dollars are helping here in the united states. kerry sanders for us in florida.

let's go quickly to one of our public health experts, university of washington medical center pulmonologist, dr. vin gupta, so, doctor, during the time kerry was speaking i was also learning we have breaking news on another front. two additional white house advanced personnel have tested positive post-rally in tulsa, both attended yet wore masks at the rally in tulsa, but given their job description, by nature as advance people, those are the folks who fly in early, they do security, they arrange the motorcade, they do the signage, they do seat selections, all of it, one can assume they were in tulsa for days in advance, your

reaction to this and is this just the tip of the iceberg? >> absolutely, brian. this is the worst-case scenario. we knew this was going to happen. begged the president, don't do this. on air, saying please don't do this. at least have it outside. because we knew that there were going to be individuals positive unfortunately on his own team that would then be potential superspreaders. what you saw two nights ago was horrific. bunch of individuals not wearing masks, and then you have a president who said we should be slowing down testing, we should be testing everybody in that arena, now, a week from now and then doing contact tracing. the president said, let's slow down testing. which is criminal. public health malpractice at this point. this is horrific.

i'm right now in an icu caring for covid patients. this is not what we want to be hearing. we're worried about the tulsa situation. as i understand it, this isn't going to be the first of its kind. >> doc, where's the n.i.h.? where's the cdc? where's the white house coronavirus task force? where's the vice president pence? where are the resignations and statements that would normally come out when the president of the united states says out loud i told my people, slow down testing? >> that's great question, brian, why isn't the surgeon general saying enough is enough, and resigning, his first duty is to do no harm. he should be resigning in protest. i don't want to hear from the vice president, he's been a megaphone from the disinformation campaign from the very beginning. i'd like to see dr. fauci and

dr. birx been given the microphone back to talk about antibody testing. antibody tests, if you're initially positive, they may go away within two months that's a big finding just this past week, if that turns out to be true that has huge implications for immunity cards. maybe immunity only lasts a few months. more studies suggesting that, by the way, if you're sick and symptomatic you be positive for five weeks. we need experts at the help to talk about these issues that matter not the president talking slowing down testing. >> you took the words out of my mouth, i was going to ask you, what do we know today that we didn't know a week ago? obviously, that's a headline that you just mentioned, but

anything you gleaned looking at the states, cities, that are spiking? >> well, i will say, peter navarro said they're prepping for a fall wave, that's all he said. we're going to add to the stock pile. if we repeat the mistakes of three months ago, we're doomed to repeat them. i'm here in the icu, if i had another individual that need dialysis, we would have to move heaven and earth to make that happen. ventilations, dia will, ysis machines that affects the kidneys. that's what we need to hear. the united kingdom and germany, they adopted contact tracing apps. where are we? maybe the best we're doing california is doing 30% contact tracing. brian, we have huge gaps, if we

ever hope to get ahold of this, we need contact tracing, ideally assisted through technology. we're not having that conversation, much less the nuance conversations about dialysis machines. and that's reflected of unfortunately the leadership we have. >> as we mentioned, as dr. gupta mentioned, he's on the job, doc, thank you for always making time and taking our questions. we appreciate it. just to repeat our breaking news over the past few minutes, we knew that a white house advance team of a half a dozen have tested positive for the coronavirus. further reporting this weekend, the president wasn't happy that word got out. we have learned two more members

of the advance team tested positive. both people who attended the tulsa rally yet wore masks. as our nation confronts racial injustice, day-to-day, night tonight n realtime, nascar is investigating a horrible incident, a noose found in the garage area of the only african-american driver in its upper echelon. and just moments ago a great show of solidarity for that driver, bubba wallace. we'll talk about the story when we come back. throughout our history any time something bad has happened to us ...we've recovered. ♪ every time. we fall, we rise. we break, we rebuild. we stumble, we learn. we come together. we work together.

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all events after bubba wallace himself called for that change. nascar quickly con demond this act, announced once it was discovered and who was responsible, quote, eliminate them from the sport. wallace released a statement, and we quote, today's despicable hate of racism and hatred leaves me incredibly saddened and serves as a painful reminder of how much further we have to go as a society and how persistent we must be in the fight against racism. this will not break me, he says, i will not give in nor will i back down. ly continue to proudly stand for what i believe in. join us in welcoming andrew wallace, veteran sportswriter, spent 14 years at sports illustrated, where he covered motorsports. now a sports contributor at the guardian. thank you very much for being with us. talk about nascar's reaction and the reaction of the team level,

have they differed at all after this despicable discovery? >> no, they've been very uniform in their condemnation of this act and in their vows to avowal punish this person to the furthest extent of their policies and also working with law enforcement, nascar working with law enforcement on the local and federal level to -- so that this person is -- whoever the perpetrator is, is punished to the fullest extent of the law. but i would say the spirit within the garage is one of unity. that this is very much like an attack against one, attack against all kind of a thing. and the show of support that proceeded the race with bubba doesn't surprise me. he's extremely likable and really going out on a limb and his skin color makes him a, you know, the prime target for this. in addition to being the guy who

called for it. so it's good to see his fellow competitors rally around him. >> yeah, when they call nascar a family, they're usually not kidding. when that family closes ranks, whether it's the death of dale earnhardt. whether it's a show of support around bubba, it's really a powerful thing to see. it was powerful to see dale earnhardt jr. tweet that he hopes bubba wins the race. because dale jr. as, of course, financial swrinterests in other teams winning this race. let's talk about the layout at talladega venue where you and i have both been. when we talk about the garage area, for casual race fans, it's different from the pit stops you see during the race. the garages are permanent structures, every team is assigned a garage bay. when they get there, they transfer the car from the transporter, the big semis, over to the garage along with their tools.

but these days, so fewer people are milling about the garage. at most race weekends, people who get what's called a hot pass can come and go. they get in the way a lot, but it comes with their vip package. these days, though, the population inside the infield is way lower. do you have any reporting on how many web cameras are around, how much security is around, and the chances that we're going to find imagery of this person and prosecute? >> well, i can't speak to the exact sort of array of cameras, more only just to say that, you know, there's a lot of them. you know, this is a nascar event that is, you know, on national television, as we speak. so in addition to fox cameras and the sort of usual array of security cameras, you also have

a video board array that is purpose-built to be able to do, you know, facial recognition tracking. so, you know, the idea that, you know, nascar, even with a population of 5,000 spectators and the complete amount of coverage that it has over that event still is trying to figure out who could have perpetrated this crime, is a bit frustrating at this point, because you would assume that this would be an easy needle to find. >> yeah. i'm right there with you. to our viewers who may not know, andrew lawrence was even nicer than he seems to join us right now. because as he indicated, the race is going on. so we'll let you get to it. as i will after the broadcast. andrew lawrence, thank you very much for joining us. more of our coverage right after this. can my side be firm?

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hello, everyone. namaste. it's 4:00 in the east. i'm john heilemann in for nicolle wallace. watching the scramble inside trump world to regroup and recover from the irrefutable fiasco that was trump's rally in tulsa saturday night. empty seats, thousands of them, at what was supposed to be the trump's campaign grand relaunch in oklahoma. the president's campaign manager, the white house press secretary, and donald trump himself all had touted a million ticket requests and teased massive crowds, 100,000 or more. an overflow rally outside the

19,000 seat arena. what they got instead was a little more than 6,000 people, according to the tulsa fire department, leaving tulsa's bok arena two-thirds empty. for president crowd size, that is an existential disaster in its own right and in multiple news outlets today are reporting that trump is furious, enraged, shocked, but for his re-election campaign, this weekend's comprehensive calamity is also serving as a blaring, resounding reinforcement of recent warning signs. the national polls that show joe biden with a double-digit lead and biden also ahead not only in every battleground state, but neck and neck with trump in some states that the president carried easily in 2016. all of those numbers translating into an honest-to-god re-election crisis for trump and the apparent reality that with less than five months to go before election day, the incumbent on track to lose and maybe lose badly. making matters worse, trump's speech itself in tulsa was a

105-minute long mess. aimless, with themeless, wiofte pointless, including 15 minutes of schick on his difficulty drinking water and descending ramps. what the speech lacked was either a clear case for trump's own re-election or a coherent attack on his opponent, former vice president biden, let alone any kind of platform describing what trump might do if given another four years in office. jonathan la mir reporting for the associated press. quote, his weekend rally in oklahoma highlighted growing vulnerabilities and crystalized a divisive re-election message that largely ignores broad swaths of voters, independents, suburban women, and people of color, who could play a crucial role in choosing trump or democratic channllenger joe bid. so today, the questions surround what happens next, as the president and his advisers try to stop the bleeding. is someone going to get fired? like his campaign manager, brad

parscale. and what about trump's plan to resume a busy rally schedule heading into the republican convention, which now also has a big question mark looming over it. or does trump simply cling to a strategy you probably last saw on the playground in third grade. when you're losing, accuse the other side of cheating. we already saw a glimpse of that this morning with this tweet. trump already trying to claim that the november election will be rigged against him. not exactly a sign of confidence, but even trump believes he'll be able to turn things around. joining us now, the aforementioned jonathan lamir. the one and only pineapple man himself, steve schmidt. and the great and glorious president and ceo of voto latino, maria teresa kumar. lamir, tell us what's going on in the white house. my sense is that it's not a happy place right now. how unhappy is it and what's

about to happen next? >> reporter: well, john, a short time ago, the white house press secretary insisted that the president was not unhappy with the aftermath of saturday night's rally in tulsa. but there's a lot of reporting to the contrary. this was, as you said, this was meant to be a campaign reset, a reboot, and was supposed to be a defiant show of force. let's remember, the president and his advisers ignored the warnings of health experts, both from the white house's own task force to state officials in oklahoma who warned against having such an event without social distancing, most people not in masks, indoors, at this rally. they went ahead anyway, believing they could draw a big crowd. believing there could be another sign that his ability to generate enthusiasm. and they wanted to compare the fact that he's out there on the road, in front of thousands of people while vice president is not doing those things. but they came away with a lot of empty seats and a lot of questions. a lack of coherent message.

even reporters at the arena noted the attacks on joe biden, not only were they sort of all over the place and not really a coherent part of the speech, they didn't land really -- they didn't seem to land with much of a punch. the audience wasn't that into it. the vendors outside, selling items that were derogatory towards former president obama or trump's 2016 opponent hillary clinton, really nothing on joe biden. it shows the president is still searching for an effective attack line. this was meant to reassure nervous republicans who were seeing really worrisome polling, both at the presidential race and for their ability to hold on to the senate. that didn't happen, either, in deep red oklahoma, the president not able to draw anywhere near the crowd that they had promised. i talked to some campaign officials today who said, they're not giving up on rallies. there's not one scheduled yet in the books. the president is going to arizona tomorrow. he's visiting the border wall and he has a political speech in phoenix in front of young republicans, but it's not an official campaign rally.

but even that, we'll watch carefully as to who shows up, how many people are there, and who right now is willing to turn out in a large event amid a still-raging pandemic. >> lamir, i want to stick with you and ask you a quick follow-up question about brad parscale. there had been a fair amount of reporting and some reporting of my own that suggested over the course of the last few months that the president is pretty annoyed with his campaign manager. we know a couple of things about donald trump, things he doesn't like, what's the first thing he doesn't like, feeling as though anybody is making money off of him, as though they're fleecing him in some way. brad parscale has been credibly accused of that on multiple occasions. the other thing president trump doesn't like is small crowds and being embarrassed politically and having the press laughing at him, mocking him, scorning him the way we all are now. we're taking them at their word. he said, a million tickets, there'll be 100,000 people. we saw 6,000, right? so the two cardinal sins have both been committed now by brad parsca parscale. how is it possible or is it possible that brad parscale

survives this? >> i would add a third cardinal sin, when a president's aide receives an outsized amount of attention from the media. and brad parscale has done that, too, in recent months. you're right there's been unhappiness with parscale for a while with the president. a few people who believe he's profiting off the trump name. there's a sense from the president a month or two back when he blew up at parscale in a meeting saying, you have all of this money, you have my name, how are we losing to this guy and mixed in a few choice words when talking about joe biden. and that was a month ago and his standing in the race has fallen only since. parscale does have a powerful ally in jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, who sort of hand picked him for this role. but our reporting shows he's in some trouble. we're not expecting that staffing change imminently. and perhaps that he will be able to hang on for a little while longer. but it's safe to say this, john. we know the president's whims about how he feels about his

advisers can change on a dime. but par skaul is absolutely on thin nice after what we saw saturday night in tulsa. >> schmidt, before we get to you, i want to play a little sound here, which is the white house press secretary today asked whether all of these reports from multiple sources, some on the record, some off the record, some on background over the course of the last 24 hours, that donald trump is unhappy, angry, upset, let's hear if those are true. let's listen to what the white house press secretary had to say this morning. >> my question to you, kayleigh, is how angry was the president that there was just a sea of blue empty chairs. >> the president was not angry at all. the president was quite energized. >> kayleigh, you're saying that he was not furious because we've known donald trump -- he was on this show every monday for years. that guy who used to be on our show would have been furious that something went haywire. >> in my interactions with the president after the rally on marine one with him, i checked in with him on air force one, and he was in very good spirits.

spoke with him again about the rally yesterday and it got rave reviews. >> steve, nicole wallace thought it was a pretty good principle not to have liars on her air, so the white house press secretary's previous and current don't make this show very often. i thought i would put her on today just to remind us all that when she took this job, she said, i will never lie to you to the white house press corps, and i can count at least a dozen times that i know she's lied to the white house press corps, including in this instance. but the question i want to ask you gets to the candidate's psych. you have worked for people like john mccain who notably occasionally had a temper and other candidates who are a lot less unhinged than donald trump. just on the basis of your experience working for candidates, image what donald trump -- what's going on inside trump's head right now after suffering what he saufuffered o saturday night and the mistakes that obviously led to it on behalf of the people who he pays obviously a lot of money.

>> obviously, kayleigh mcenany is lying and the people at "fox & friends" know she's lying. but obviously, the truth was painted on trump's face when he landed on the air force one and walked across the south lawn a defeated man. donald trump is in essence a junkie. he needs the acclaim and the exultation. he hadn't had a rally in month. we've seen the most incompetent and inept performance in a crisis by an american leader in the history of the country. the economy is shattered. 40 million people out of work. 120,000 death americans. and so donald trump was there. he was going to light the fuse. he was going to kick start the campaign and it was a debacle for the ages. the president of the united states got up there and he talked for 15 minutes about his slow shuffle down the ramp at west point.

he talked about the difficulty of drinking water. the people who were there risking their lives cheered for it. i'm not sure why. but incredibly, he finally told the truth about something in the middle of the speech when he con the east side to slowing down testing for coronavirus. and the reason the united states is the epicenter of coronavirus death and sufferi ining and our economy is the worst because of it. and the united states is the worst-managed country with regard to dealing with it, is because we don't have enough testing. it was a remarkable admission and an admission that was responsible for the deaths of many, many americans. you just saw an unhinged performance. i think at the four-year mark, the american people are taking donald trump's final measure and they're repudiating him. they're rejecting him.

no one in the country except for the trump kids can say they're better off than they were four years ago. the american people are looking at joe biden. they see a good man, a decent man, an empathetic man, a comparable man and an honorable man and they're getting ready to replace donald trump with that man. >> maria teresa, here's my thought about this, when i watched this event on saturday night, i had been thinking a lot about -- let's put this up. there was this "new york times" story last week, that raised the question of whether trump really wants a second term or not. this one here, does trump want to fight for a second term. his self-sabotage worries aides, the headline. i had read that story and struck by it, because there's a lot of people around trump that look at his self-sabotage and his self-pity. when you saw him on saturday night, there's been -- if you talk to people close to trump over the years, their main confidence in this biden race -- and we'll talk about the polls in a second, but their main confidence is donald trump is a better political athlete than joe biden. that's what they think.

no matter what happens to the economy, race relations, anything else in america, the coronavirus, trump is a better political athlete. and what i saw on stage saturday night was not a political athlete at all. i saw donald trump as like a political fat elvis, who was doing his lazy, unfocused, up disciplined, a lot of schtick. is this a candidate who strikes fear in your heart, given the kind of incredibly flaccid performance that he gave in tulsa? >> this is the thing, john. everybody is blaming parscale and folks for the fact that the place was everyone. yes, it was empty, but the candidate himself did not do his job. he basically brought out -- he dusted off 2016 make america great 2.0 again. but it was the same thing. it was anti-immigrant. it was "law & ordelaw skand ord

trade. it was so 2016. most presidential candidates, incumbents say, you know what, this is an opportunity for me to tell you what i want to give you in the future. given that we are in a perfect storm of race relations, we have -- we're teetering on an economic recession because of his incompetency in malpractice in handling covid, he has an opportunity to say, this is how we're going to get out of the debacle that we're in. he did none of that. instead, he framed his campaign in a world view of us versus them, and joe biden of a multiracial, multi-american company that actually represents the majority of voters. but he also did provide us with a big air balloon of, chawhat ie really afraid of that joe biden may actually use as a platform. he talked about kids in cages. why? because we know that the majority of white suburban moms did not like that. it was because of kids in cams and health cares that they came back to the democratic party during the midterm elections.

he talked about the virus, making it incredibly derogatory, with going back to his chinese tropes, but that's because he knows that's something that can stick. and finally, he kept telling the american people during that rally, trust me. unemployment is fine -- it's not okay, but it will be fine by the time november comes. and then he talked about the stock market, how it was booming and how it meant this representation that he is doing fine. but let's be honest with each other. let's level, john. we know that the majority of american people do not have stocks in the stock market. he is completely divorced from the american reality right now and it showed. and this is an opportunity for joe biden to figure out if the president depends so much on rallies, what is joe biden's opportunity? what can he talk about? is it roundtable discussions about these big issues americans are facing for the 21st century where he brings in diverse groups of law enforcement, business, what have you, to talk about what does that american future look like the day after donald trump is no longer in

office and he's sworn into office. the more the president talks, the more he lays the groundwork for joe biden to figure out, what is that signature look he's looking for at the same time. >> lamir, last week we had national polls from fox news, quinnipiac, and cnbc. fox news had biden ahead by 12, quinnipiac had biden ahead by 8. cnn had biden ahead by 10. those are not great numbers for an incumbent. now we have trump this morning, let's look at these two tweets here, given how dark this picture is for him, the polling looks bad, joe biden now raised him in the month of may. he now tries to do this rebot of the campaign in tulsa. because of mail-in ballots, 2020 will be the most rigged election in our nations history. now they are using covid to try to cheat by using mail-ins. that's trump -- the manifestation. after all the things i just laid

out, the first thing he's tweeting is about the rigged election. now we have bill kristol with the other tweet. kristol this morning says, you look at the polls and think, he can't win, meaning trump. but trump's path to victory doesn't depend on persuading americans. it depends on voter suppression and unabashed use of political power to shape events and perceptions this fall. i'll hit you, lamir, and then schmidt. lamir, first, what do you think about that? what this says that this is what's on trump's mind? that these are the fears that bill kristol is enunciating, but millions of americans are thinking about and asking us about all the time. what do you hear inside that build you cover related to these matters? >> john, a couple of things. first, bill kristol, no democrat, but is voicing what a lot of democrats are afraid of. that this could get really ugly down in the fall. that the president is losing and he will suggest that the election is unfair, is unjust, and this will get tide ed up in

legislation. we've seen concerns about access to voting, again come out against mail-in ballots and put out their unproven conspiracy theories that they're open for -- that they're ripe for fraud. there's no evidence of that whatsoever. it's connected, though, i must say, to what the trump campaign itself is doing. they're really not offering any sort of positive case for trump other than to say, he oversaw a good economy once, he can do it again. it's trying to drag biden down to this point really with not much success, and we're seeing it in those numbers, though to be fair, the margin between biden and trump is a lot smaller in some of the battleground states that will decide this election rather than those national polls. but this is something that the president himself pokes fun at the idea that he won't leave office willingly. but a lot of democrats have this concern and are watching carefully what he does in the months ahead. john bolton's book, another example of the president looking for foreign interference to help him win re-election.

>> skmchmidt, lamir is right. he leads in florida, in michi n michigan, there's not a place where trump is on offense -- in fact, trump is on defense in places like iowa and ohio that he won by nine and eight points respectively in 2016. so is it the case given this picture that the data is showing right now and given what's obviously on trump's mind and what he's already telegraphing to us, is the only way for trump to win increasingly, does it look to you like the only way to win is to cheat? and do you have any doubt that drump will try? >> i have no doubt that donald trump burn it all down if thought it benefited him. he has accepted help from hostile foreign powers. he will do anything to try to win. he is a chaos agent. i would not put it past him to order military strikes somewhere. i would not put it past him to

not concede the election when he loses. he will rage about conspiracy theorys and defeat for years and years and years to come. so it's going to be an ugly fall, just like it's been an ugly three and a half years. and as trump's numbers shrink, as his base contracts tonucleus in the most dangerous part of the trump presidency. >> maria, you're going to close this block out here. twa talk about one specific thing. there's a lot of ways that donald trump can cheat. people are trying to figure out ways to be vigilant. steve went through some of them. it seems to me that voter suppression will be maybe the biggest arrow in the quiver that trump has control over and his governors that are aligned with him have control over. he won't have as much control over china or russia or foreign actors, but on voter suppression, there's a lot that he can do. what are the things that worry you most in that area? >> i'll share with you.

i'm part of the national election crisis task force. michael chertoff is one of the other individuals that's part of the task force. it's a non-partisan effort, because we really that donald trump is an ultimate threat to the voting booth. he recognizes that by even creating this nuance that the vote might not count, that is suppression. making sure that all of a sudden voting places disappear, that is voter depression. the fact that he says, get your second amendment ready for november 3rd, that is voter suppression. what i encourage the american people is to flood the voting booth, make sure you're registered, make sure your voter registration is not purged. you can check it at ballotl ballotready.com. but more importantly, and this is the kicker. donald trump and his whole family vote by mail. he knows it's not fraudulent. he recognizes that the obstacles of getting him out of office are participation. that's one of the reasons why he wants to defund the united states postal service. let's get it together. we know that the majority of americans are not in his corner and it's going around states

that he should not be fighting for. he's competing in texas, for goodness sakes. joe biden is leading there. he's competing in georgia, places that were sure republican strongholds. and when you have the republican party coming out, an ex-official coming out and saying he's not okay for the american people. when you have someone like john bolton speaking truth and saying, he's not okay for the american people, we need to make sure we're registered, we're participating, and to ensure that he is no longer in office come november. >> maria teresa kumar, thank you. jonathan lamir, thank you. steve schmidt, you heard me call donald trump fat elvis, you're elvis in his prime. when we come back, with covid-19 spiking in states around the country, did donald trump really tell his administration to put the brakes on testing? plus, attorney general william barr managed to oust a powerful u.s. attorney over the weekend, but it might not be turning out the way we hoped. and john bolttobolton, comi

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on saturday night, you said that you told your staff to slow the testing down to improve the numbers. does that mean someone watching this right now on their local news is not going to get a test because you asked your staff -- >> we do more testing than any country in the world, by far. 25 million tests. other countries do 1 million. every time you do a test, as you do more tests, it shows more and more cases. you're showing people that are asymptomatic, you're showing people that have very little problem. you're showing young people that don't have a problem. but we're doing so much testing, 25 million tests. nobody thought that -- >> did you ask to slow it down? >> if it did slow down, frankly, i think we're way ahead of ourselves if you want to know the truth. we've done too good a job.

>> words, words, words, but not anywhere in there an actual denial that donald trump asked his people to slow down coronavirus testing. i didn't hear a denial. there was no denial. he made that stunning claim at saturday night's rally, one that left his aides arguing that the comment was in jest, but the joke defense seems less and less likely, as trump repeats his false claim that the growing number of cases is due to more testing. even his ally in florida, governor ron desantis, acknowledged that the testing is not what's behind the surge of cases in his state. and in just the last hour, we learned that two more members of donald trump's advanced team who attended the tulsa rally have tested positive for the coronavirus, on top of the other 16 members we learned on saturday had contracted the virus. joining us now, former baltimore health commissioner, dr. lina nguyen. dr. nguyen, a lot of people watched that trump spectacle on saturday, a lot of people had different reasons for watching. as a public health specialist,

expert, you're watching it with a prism of, is this a disaster in the making in terms of public health. as you watched it, what did you think? >> well, i saw people who were standing shoulder to shoulder, not wearing masks, in close proximity for a prong pro lolon period of time. and i thought about all of these individuals, some of whom are older, some of whom probably have chronic medical conditions. how they could be infected themselves, go back to their home communities and infect their family members and everyone else around them. and i also thought about how overburdened our public health infrastructure already is. already, we don't have the contact tracers that we need in order to contain this infection, or frankly, the testing that we need to contain this infection, and how as a result of this one event, we're going to overburden our public health sfruinfrastrue even more. >> so the question of whether trump actually told the administration to slow down testing or not. you know, their claim that it

was just a joke. i'm not sure how they could possibly think it would be funny to be joking about such things at a time when 120,000 americans are dead from covid-19. again, as a public health matter, talk about both sides of this, right? if he actually did tell the administration to slow down testing, what are the implications of that? and second, if he didn't, and he's just joking about that, what are the implications of that from a public health expert? >> well, testing is the reason that we're in the disaster that we are in now, or frankly, lack of testing is how we got here. if we were able to do testing back in january, we had a chance to contain covid-19 and prevent the 120,000 deaths that we're coming close to having here in the u.s. virtually every public health expert agrees that we need far more testing. that we need a national strategy for identifying every case of

individual who has covid-19, contact tracing, and ideally, reigning in the infection at that point. we had a chance to stop the infection. we still have a chance to identify clusters before they become outbreaks. outbreaks before they become epidemics. testing is key to that. and it really defies science, it defies public health, and frank it defies common sense as to why we would want to do something intentionally to reduce testing, while all along we've been saying we need a national strategy, a coordinated effort so we can get from hundreds of thousands of tests a day, which is where we are now, to millions of tests. testing is the key to reopening our economy and getting schools back open and we feed to see the president speak the truth about what actually has been happening here. >> think about speaking the truth. two senior administration officials, peter navarro and larry kudlow, yesterday, on cnn, navarro said when asked about

whether the administration is preparing for a second wave after covid-19, he said, of course we're preparing for it. kudlow this morning on cnbc says, there is no second wave coming. so these are two senior administration officials saying diametrically opposed things about what are happening and the expectations going forward. how disconcerting is it to you that there's that mixed message coming out of the white house, and what's your sense, which of those two is the presumption they're operating under currently? >> to your first question, clear, direct messaging is everything. that's what was key to containing covid-19 in other countries that have successfully fought it. public health depends on public trust. and you can't have government officials who are politicizing this tragedy and completely at odds with the scientific community. in terms of where we are, we are not anywhere close being fast the first wave of covid-19. we're at the steady state now of

hundreds of deaths a day. and this is increasing. we're seeing surges across the south and the southeast. we're seeing hospitals getting full, icus actually getting full in parts of texas, alabama, florida. really concerning trends. and that's before we even hit the fall. when we're going to get the confluence of influenza and flu season on top of covid-19, too. so what we really should be seeing right now is preparation for if something like that were to happen. we need a national strategy again for testing. we also need to make sure that we don't run out of ppe. the mask and gowns and other things that we did last time. we can't again have tens of thousands of health care workers on the front lines being exposed and get infected. that's what we should be focused on now. >> a last word not. always great to have you on this air. after the break, it is certainly not first time we have asked this question and it very likely will not be the last. is something fishy going on at

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the democratic leader in the senate, chuck schumer, wants the justice department's inspector general to investigate the firing of the attorney general for the southern district of new york. if you're walking into this story cold, here's a recap. bill barr announced late, late friday night, that's usually not a good sign, that berman was stepping down from his position to be replaced by jay clayton. in other words, the trump administration was planning on forcing out a career prosecutor at the head of one of the most high-profile federal jurisdictions in the country with one of trump's golf buddies, a person possessing zero prosecutorial experience. making those moves even more suspicious is the fact that the southern district is where investigations into donald trump and his associates are or at least were reportedly being

conducted. after barr made that announcement, berman refused to step down, so barr got trump to step in and fire berman, or at least that's what barr is now saying. listen to how trump responded when he was asked about the firing. >> why did you fire geoffrey berman, mr. president? >> that's all up to the attorney general, attorney general barr is working on that. that's his department, not my department. but we have a very capable attorney general, so that's really up to him. i'm not involved. >> all right. so while the administration is still trying to get its story straight about who actually fired a sitting u.s. attorney, it is important to note that when barr fired berman, the second time this weekend, the plan of secession changed. instead of clayton getting the job, that would be the trump crony, berman's deputy, audrey strauss, she's now in charge, which gives some hope to the notion that the potential investigations going on about trump and his associates can proceed as planned.

joining us now, former federal for the, renato mariotti and jill wine-banks. jill, i start with you. a lot happened over the weekend. and i just want to give your sense of, what do you think is going on here and where's this story go from here forward? >> so first of all, i got whiplash over the weekend. you had the announcement that he had resigned. you had the statement, i did not and i certainly do not attend to. so barr saying he had resigned was clearly a lie by barr. then you had barr saying, the president is going to fire you because you didn't resign. and the president saying, whoa, this is up to attorney general barr. i have nothing to do with it. and then it ended with sort of a big thud, which was berman voluntarily resigning. and it isn't actually the deputy

who was taking over. she is taking over as a temporary. that doesn't mean they won't still try to propose the appointment of a totally unqualified person with no prosecutorial experience. he's head of the s.e.c. he's a corporate lawyer. but he has never tried a case. he would never be qualified to be the u.s. attorney. so even though she is taking over and seems to be highly qualified, it doesn't mean that this episode is over. it seems, though, that it was based on a total personnel matter, where clayton said, i really don't want to be in washington anymore. i want to go back to new york. and i would like to get some litigation experience, so i would like to be the u.s. attorney. this is not a learning how-to job. it's a job you come to when you are a great litigator. so this is -- it was wrong to begin with. it's wrong if it's for personal reasons, because he wants to be with his family back in new york. that's not how you appoint u.s.

attorneys. they should be people who are qualified to do the work of the american people. and that's not what's happening here. shame on all of them. >> so, just pick it up on that. renato, it seems to me there's a few different possible reasons for this happening. for berman not having his job anymore. one of them -- and they're not mutually exclusive. all of these things could be true. one, as jill east suggesting, president trump wants to give a favor to a buddy of his and give him a sweetheart job or an important job in the country that this guy is not qualified for. that's one thing. he could also be retaliating against the southern district for the michael cohen prosecution or other things. and the third thing is, he could be doing this in a prophylactic way, where trump is worried about investigations into him and his associates and is strtrg to cut those investigations off. what's your sense that is the most likely negotiations here. but what do you think is at the heart of this in terms of motive? >> john, what it looks to me is that barr really wanted to get

berman out fast. he had a conversation with berman. by barr's own admission, he offered berman very impressive jobs, right? be head of the civil division in washington, d. washington, d.c. so it wasn't like berman was being ask to leave because he had a performance issue. and barr wanted to get all of this done so quickly he didn't even get berman's agreement and he rushed out on a friday this release that turned out to be false. so it seemed to me like barr was in a hurry to get berman out and berman's initial statement talked about the work of the office going forward unimpeded. and it seemed to me that this was a signal by berman that he wanted everyone to pay attention to this, because he was concerned about things that the department had in the works that the southern district of new york had in the works being halted or repeated. so from my perspective, it sure looks like barr was trying to either slow down or impede the

southern district from doing something. right now, of course, just a few months from an election. >> so, jill, i want to ask you about barr. this is like the latest in a string of things that look like and are abuses of power. we spent a lot of air time talking about this over the course of the last year. my question for you is this. you know, what's to be done about it? you had jerry nadler say, basically, yeah, you know, he probably should be impeached, but we're not going to -- there's no point in taking that up, because we saw what happened with the president's impeachment. we can impeach this guy, the attorney general, and the republican senate is not going to do anything about it. so is there anything that can be done, practically speaking, to try to rein in bar? >> well, i think it sort of has happened when you have the senate saying, we won't confirm anybody willy-nilly. we're going to wait until we get permission from the democratic senators from new york.

and if they don't say it's okay, we're not proceeding. so in effect, we have stopped him. and i would like to point out that it's not just obstruction of justice, which we've seen many times now from barr and creating false impressions about the mueller report, et cetera, et cetera. but this time it looks like a series of incompetent moves. his taking control of the federal troops at lafayette square, his clearing the way for using the gas at lafayette square. there's a whole series of things where he has apparently pissed off the white house. and i think we need to take into account not just deliberate malice and obstruction, but that he's being incompetent. and i think the thing that can be done, because realistically, between now and election, you are not going to be able to get an impeachment done, even though it's well deserved, but there is the bar, and he could be disbarred. and i think that's something that no one should ignore and that we should pay attention to

what he is doing to undermine the department of justice. the public outrage could force him out, could force trump to get rid of him. >> all right. renato mar yachtto, thanks. there's a lot you can say about john bolton, but last night he issued a warning about what could happen if trump wins re-election.

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will remember donald trump? >> i hope it will remember him as a one-term president who didn't plunge the country irretrievably into a downward spiral we can't recall from. we can get over one term. two terms, i'm more troubled about. decisions are made in a very scattershot fashion, especially in the potentially mortal field of national security policy. this is a danger for the republic. >> that's john bolton, sending a stark warning that even many of his fiercest critics can get onboard with. the stakes for this presidential election have never been higher. joining us now, former democratic congresswoman, donna edwards, and former united states ambassador to south africa and the president of the open society foundation, patrick gaspard. guys, patrick, i want to start with you. it's nice to see you. i haven't seen you in while, except on tv. >> it's good to see you and the congresswoman. >> well, i see donna more

frequently. i've got to say, you're one of those people who falls into the category of not a big john bolton fan. but here, you have common ground, i would say. you are, i think, like a lot of democrats who think, you know, four years of trump is bad, but the next four years could be something completely unimaginably horrible. so i would like you to just spring off of what bolton is talking about as he sketches the kind of nightmare scenario. like, what is it that you worry about? what are things that you think -- that make the stakes so high, that we really have to worry about if donald trump were to get re-elected? >> well, first, john, let me say, of course, that you're 100% right. i don't usually agree on foreign policy and national security with john bolton who has seen a complete disregard for human rights in his public service. but when you ask me whether or not i can imagine a worst-case scenario with donald trump second term on foreign policy,

we're experiencing it right now. this is somebody who has absolutely shown a violent sort of reaction to any sort of notion of multilateralism. and we're paying for that in this moment. with already lost 120,000 and counting american lives and plunge iing 45 millio americans into debt. we're not partnering with other nations, we're not sharing intelligence in real time and we're living in this space of isolation and deniable. but beyond that, let's remember, this is a president who, of course, didn't see any multilateral treaty that he wasn't prepared for, with the help of john bolton, let's remember. i recall what he did with the -- and in the words of former senior adviser fiona hill, he's used foreign policy for domestic

political. he did it with china, to the detriment of farmers in the midwe midwest. and has done it in latin america, as well, with a horrific policy in venezuela and throughout the region. we have the good fortune that there are other leaders in the world who in this moment of challenge have come together to make sure they can assure some measure of peace, some measure of the continuity of ult la multilateral system, but we have tremendous risk of that in a trump second term. >> dondonna, you are not a republican, but you have a student of republican, and you've been watching them and their behavior in the last 3 1/2 years. so, if you forget about bolton's motives, if you forget about him cashing in, forget about the question whether he should have come and testified in the impeachment process, you know, all the things that are odious about this whole thing and just

take the actual claims that he's making, they are terrifying, right? these are -- i mean, incredibly serious things that he's accusing trump of. the account of trump's behavior is mortifying, right? and it's coming from someone who is not a -- a never trumper, not a rhino, let alone a lefty. this guy is someone who has been hated by democrats like you for years for being the guy who wanted to abolish the u.n. he's as far right as you can possibly but but for whatever reason, the things he says gain no, sir purchase with republicans whatsoever. explain that to me, how it is that even john bolton is ignored by virtually every elected republican, every important republican in the country, even those who don't work for donald trump. >> john, that's a tall order and it's probably beyond my pay grade, but what i will say is that john bolton has identified

what we have known for 3 1/2 years, and that is that donald trump is a clear and present changer to the national security interests of the united states of america. and i think very tragically, republicans who have gone in lock-step with this president have really closed their ears even to hearing what an arch conservative like john bolton has to say. and i would disagree, i mean, i do think that -- that bolton's claims, despite what he says, could have made actually a tremendous difference through the impeachment process. i mean, he identified some things and has identified aspects of donald trump's behavior that even go well beyond what was known by the impeachment committee and could have helped to actually expand what they were -- what they were

doing. and i don't know that that really changed hearts and minds of republicans who are looking at their own re-election, but it's a very dangerous trend that we're on, where we're willing to sacrifice the rule of law and the security interests of the united states for political interests. and john, i will end by saying that i think that even though bolton has identified this danger to the u.s. by donald trump, that he still says that the reason that he's not supporting him is because he's not conservative enough. and that doesn't acknowledge that this has gone well beyond politics. donald trump has jeopardized the rule of law and republicans are ignoring that, to our own detriment. >> congresswoman -- >> go ahead, patrick. >> sorry, john. >> no, go ahead. >> i never disagree with the congresswoman, but i'm going to

make a slightly different point on impeachment. i think if john bolton had testified, it would not have made much of a difference, because this republican relationship has tied itself to the tail of this presidency, they're in for the tax cut s, some of them are in for the repugnant domestic policies that have more than a bit of a racial tinge to them, and they have been an apologist on every front. we saw this president go to the dmz with the north korean leader, with no strategy whatsoever and no push-back from any republican. a dangerous presidency that's seeing all kinds of irresponsible scaffolding from mitch mcconnell and leaders of the republican party. >> patrick, real quick, here's the thing. trump attacks bolton, goes crazy on him, they tried to stop the book from coming out, and this martha raddatz, he got 6 million viewers. you got to think, real quick, about the fact that this white house does not understand how

this works. that when you try to stop from getting a book published, it just makes more people read it. >> no one would have read it, if not for the president of the united states holding up a sign saying, hey, you guys need to check this thing out. so, yeah, bad strategy. this is how they have kind of done it in their president. as the kids would say it, a bit of a hot mess. >> donna, patrick, thank you for spending a little bit of time with us here today. that does it for this hour. i'm john heilemann. i am in for nicolle wallace. please come back. our coverage continues with katy tur right after this break. keeping armies alive? drafting the plans. taking the pictures. was it your family members?

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welcome to monday, it is "meet the press daily." i'm katy tur in for chuck todd, on a day that we just learned that two more members of the trump campaign, two people who were at saturday night's rally in tulsa, have now tested positive for covid-19. that means at least eight staffers who were on the ground in oklahoma have now tested positive. today's news is yet another s setback for the president, who was warned