it's now time for black lives matter. >> what is justice? when you look at these protests across the country they're having an impact. a new survey shows 94% of americans now want some kind of change to criminal justice. that is big, and that's our final thought tonight. thanks for watching the beat. we'll be back tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern. keep it right here on msnbc. good evening. i'm steve kornacki in new york. events in washington and arizona presented a discordant split screen today. at the same time that dr. anthony fauci and other health officials testified about the ongoing danger of the global pandemic president trump ven ventured to a coronavirus hot spot. at this hour the president is delivering remarks at a students for trump event in phoenix, arizona. it was organized by the conservative advocacy group turning point action, and being

hosted at a mega church that accommodates up to 3,000 people. this comes amid a sharp spike in coronavirus cases in the state of arizona, which today announced a record high number of new infections. now, arizona has become a must-win state for the president this fall in his battle for re-election. a repeat fox news poll found joe biden leading there, though, by four percentage points. trump won arizona by just over three points in 2016. but in 2018 the state elected a democratic senator who benefitted from strong support in suburban phoenix, part of a national trend we have seen in the trump era. after advising against the democratic -- the democratic, quote, anyone attending the event particularly any elected official should set an example to residents by wearing a mask. this includes the president.

needless to say trump is not wearing a mask tonight. and i'm joined now by vaughn hilliard, yamiche alcindor, and jacob soboroff. thank you all for being with us. well, vaughn, let me start with you right behind you or around you trying to figure out where in relation you are to that facility. the president is speaking right now, so this another major indoor public event for the president a couple of days after that rally in tulsa. i think one of the questions raised coming out of tulsa is what would the level of interest be, and as we saw a lot of sechlty seats there a lot of apprehension on the part of the folks of arizona. >> reporter: i was just talking and the place is packed inside. and there is no social distancing. every seat is in use. there's hardly a mask in sight. maybe one out of 30, 1 out of 40

folks. and earlier today you had folks packed in by the hundreds inside of a pen. we're outside of the church just up here the hill to my left. several hundred protesters have since gathered outside. i should note it's 109 degrees out here. there's a brush fire literally about 5 miles down the road. if the president wanted to pick a place to come and there was a hot spot in the united states he chose it. i've spent most of my life in arizona, steve. i've been around protesters. protests against sheriff joe arpaio and immigration orders from the state. there's a real sense of opportunity to change the political landscape in this country. you still see anti-sheriff joe signs, anti-trump signs and you also hear about folks registering to vote, and there's a reason the president is here today. there's the most hospitalizations to date here in arizona today. the most ventilators in use. and just this morning the state

announced in thelash 24 hours it reported its most covid cases than any yet. but despite all that the president decided to come here because he needs to win arizona in november. we're four months away. joe biden is neck and neck with donald trump, that is why you see the president inside of this venue here this afternoon. steve? >> and as you were speaking there we were showing some pictures from inside that facility right where you are. it does look like a packed house. we say it fits up to about 3,000 people. i think the crowd in oklahoma over the weekend at that arena a larger venue, was about 6,000. but, vaughn, those stats you're putting out there, the developments when it comes to coronavirus in arizona, it's not just cases rising but all those other indicators we're talking about. you talked about hospitalizations, positive rate, all these kinds of things. talking to the folks lined up to go into that trump event today what were they telling you about

that? was it on their minds at all? >> reporter: it's a defiance of reality. i don't think there's any other way to put it than that. god bless these individuals, but they've heard from a president of the united states who's told them that masks are not necessary. i talked to multiple individuals who said, one particular man who told me he didn't believe the death count. these are vulnerable population, a lot of younger folks as well that just don't believe the basic facts. and when you have the president of the united states who's joined by republican senator martha mcsally and republican arizona governor doug ducey inside it's hard to push back. the governor here has spent the last week telling folks to #mask up. but the governor here is appearing alongside president trump. he was down in yuma county and it's also a hot spot. in fact, two of the construction workers on that very wall, steve, have tested positive for

covid themselves. a pima county health department official told me. and so the president decided to come here. i asked a good number of folks why are you here today, the answer was consistently president trump. you wouldn't see thousands congregated inside that church or the hundreds or thousands on that streets if it were not for the decision of the president of the united states to be here in the middle of phoenix. >> and you mentioned the political imperative the president faces in arizona, again a state he carried by a couple of points. "the new york times" points out, quote, who are confident they can win both the presidential and senate races in the state. democrats are not only counting on younger new voters they are also focused on convincing suburban moderates they should abandon the republican party. and as nbc news reports, quote, long-term republicans in the state are growing pessimistic not only about president trump's chances of winning arizona in

negative but also the future prospects for the state party. yamiche, the story is part of the national politics. the suburbs of this country, the metropolitan areas of this country in particular you've seen the most dramatic movement away from trump and his republican party for democrats. it's certainly what democrats are hoping will happen in 2020. what is the message the president is trying to bring to arizona to combat that trend? >> the message the president is trying to bring to arizona is really two fold. having just listened to him a couple of minutes ago while he was on stage. the first is that he's trying to use these scare tactics to say democrats are socialist, they want america not to be america anymore, they're really anarchists worried about dismantling the entire legacy of america, despite the fact protesters are saying actually america should be getting better rather than thinking about the confederate soldiers that fought to break this country up. we should better treat every man

and every woman equally. the second point the president is making is talking about the fact the economy is just going to get better and it's just around the corner. he's talking about the fact that given four more years he will be able to bring economic prosperity to the country. but there's an issue there. and the issue there is that dr. anthony fauci and so many other health officials are saying america does not have the virus under control. dr. anthony fauci told congressman schiff today people should be bracing for a second wave of this coronavirus and we're seeing historic surges in places like arizona but other states as well. while the president is trying to make this case he not only has everything under control but he's the best person for the job you have joe biden as well as health officials saying, look, president trump is not taking this seriously enough and is talking about things in a way that is not conforming with what the reality of the situation is. >> let me break jacob soboroff in because the president has that event going on right now.

he was where you were earlier touring the border. of course 2016 it was the idea of building the wall along the u.s.-mexico border, the entirety of it. that was a major part of his campaign. tell us what was happening there today. what was he trying to showcase, what was he trying to say, what's the reality on the ground there. >> reporter: i can tell you the ceremonial event that the president came here to participate in today was the announcement that he and his administration have completed 200 miles of this 34 tall steel slat bollard fencing along the southwest border. while that is indeed accurate i think the president wanted just about anything to distract from the situation on the ground here in arizona which is the explosion of coronavirus cases we have been talking about. but if it's up to my judgment i don't think it was particularly successf successful. he did his best, though, allegations at least of 30 abuse allegations from child migrants

against the border patrol. he didn't bring that up at all but instead went back to his familiar refrain that president obama is to blame for the cages inside the border patrol facility where he separated and this is president trump, 5,000 children along the southwest border. while it is accurate president obama built that facility, he certainly did not separate systematically all of those children. it was a deflection attempt by president trump to try to go back as you said to the messages of the 2016 campaign. when he came out to the border itself we heard the president talking about how the border wall itself was in effect stopping the coronavirus which is truly preposterous. we know that the coronavirus that is in mexico today and coming back and forth freely between the border because of legitimate trade and travel started here in the united states and went south of the border. and where in mexico they do not have the health care facilities and infrastructure we have here in the united states.

so he went back to a familiar opponent, too, in fact president obama and any immigrants coming into the united states. but it is a hard sell to tell the people of arizona to not focus on the coronavirus when as vaughn hilliard said two of the workers that worked on this very wall the president came to see fell ill from that virus that the president seems to thing the wall is itself stopping, steve. >> >>ia yamiche, it's a smaller venue here in phoenix. what i've been bundering the last few days given the reality of the coronavirus for the foreseeable future we can talk more about the vaccine prospects, but the controversy is here, certainly seem tuesday be on peoples minds. is this affecting when you talk to folks in the president's inner circle is this affecting after going through tulsa now today how they think about sort of the practical aspects of this

campaign going forward, major indoor events? >> what we know is that the president was absolutely furious at the idea that he was giving a speech to 6,200 people when there was a 1,900-seat auditorium and the idea he had to cancel an outdoor event where he and vice president pence were supposed to speak really did not sit well with him. there was a lot of deep thinking about how the president was going to go forward with these thousands and thousands of venues that he wants to speak at and speak before without actually having the people that are willing to put their lives on the line to go see the president. i think that the president is saying, still, the trump campaign is saying they're going to be moving forward with these rallies. but i think it's going to be very interesting to see where they hold these rallies. and i don't they're going to be these big boisterous rallies because americans whether you're republican or democrat they're very, very scared.

another quick thing. the president also has he's pushing forward with all these messages he's saying things like i have 200 miles of wall being built, and what we know is that for a fact only 3 miles of new wall where there was no barrier at all existing there, that was only 3 miles the president built wall taking office. we see $15 billion going into this fencing for only 3 new miles where and we have to continue to watch the president as he tours the country saying these things because he's very desperate and excited in some ways to make the case he's the best man for the job and keep his job while also in some ways spreading this information. >> he signed an executive order that freezes new visas for foreign workers through the end of the year. the policy is a win for immigration hard liners in the administration. it is likely to meet some backlash from the business community. jacob, tell us a little bit about what the president did here. the argument here with the coronavirus and the surging we always say depression level

unemployment, the argument here is this would create more job opportunities for american workers. what's being done policy wise. >> reporter: again, the idea that he's doing this for the coronavirus and to solve the coronavirus, steve, is very hard to believe. and the president, his administration including advisers like steven miller have long pushed forward with a chance for restricted immigration policies be it separating families at the border or deporting young children. while those people will not be able to come in and get visas the way they normally would under the president's new proposal the president has told tens of thousands of asylum seeking migrants to wait in mexico, on the other side of this border wall for the duration of their asylum claims. under the cover of coronavirus he's expelled thousands of children back to their countries of origin. these are all policies the trump administration has wanted to put into effect throughout the duration of the administration. during family celebrations now katey miller who's the vice

president's communications director but at the time at the homeland security department told me very clearly family separations was an inattempt to get into place policies that would allow them to turn back unaccompanied undocumented migrant children immediately. the idea they're doing this now because of the coronavirus as i said is hard to believe base said on the track record and history of this administration when it comes to restrictive immigration policies. >> all right, jacob soboroff, vaughn hilliard, yamiche, thank you for being with us. vaughn actually had to leave early. we appreciate his contribution. and his book called "separated, inside an american tragedy." and coming up president trump says he wasn't kidding when he said he wanted a slow down in covid testing. today dr. anthony fauci responded during a congressional hearing. >> none of us have had ever been told to slow down on testing. that just is a fact. in fact, we will be doing more

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welcome back. earlier today white house coronavirus task force members testified before the house energy and commerce committee. the hearing was held as the country faces an uptick in cases. 26 states have seen an increased number of cases over the past two weeks, and 7 have seen a spike of 100% or more. as we mentioned earlier arizona where president trump is speaking right now reported a record single-day increase. it also set records for the number of people hospitalized in intensive care and on ventilators because of the

disease. texas also reported a record high with over 5,000 new cases. and just a few hours ago the governor of texas, greg abbott, surged texan tuesday stay home and help fight the rampant, his words there, rampant, spread of the disease. dr. anthony fauci called the recent uptick disturbing. >> if you look at how wave been hit, we've been hit badly. anybody that looks at the numbers, we've had now over 120,000 deaths and we've had 2.5 million infections. so it's a serious situation. in some respects we've done very well, however in other areas of the country we're now seeing a disturbing surge of infections that looks like it's a combination. of one of the things is an increase community spread, and that's something i'm really quite concerned about that. >> and while that hearing was going on president trump contradicted fauci. he tweeted this, quote, cases up only because of our big number

testing. mortality rate way down. health experts have said that a large share of the new infections are among people in their 20s and 30s. fauci urged young people to remain vigilant and cautioned against a false sense of security. >> what you can't forget is that if you get infected and spread the infection even though you do not get sick you are part of the process of the dynamics of an outbreak. and what you might be propagating inadvertently perhaps innocently is infecting someone who then infects someone who then is someone who's vulnerable. that could be your grandmother, your grandfather, your sick uncle, who have you who ends up dying. it's a very different messaging when people say i'm young, i'm healthy, who cares, you should care. not only for yourself but the impact you might on the dynamics of the outbreak. >> for more i'm joined by

internal medicine physician and msnbc contributor. doctor, thank you for joining us. so give us a sense. we focus so much on the raw case numbers, and those are up in a lot of places, but it looks like there's particular concern. i was looking through it today -- arizona, texas, florida, california -- these seem to have the biggest spikes in multiple categories. what's your sense exactly of what's going on here? >> yeah, good evening, steve. it's multiple reasons, right? for some places they opened up prematurely or frankly never closed down. they're not implementing widespread testing or contact tracing. remember memorial day. there are a lot of factors that are really taking place here. but a couple of points i want to point out from the congressional hearing, we absolutely need more testing. and to dr. fauci's point the testing doesn't really cause more cases, right? it's simply picking up or detecting what's already out

there. and as you pointed out, steve, arizona, texas, various places, florida, we're seeing this -- to quote again dr. fauci, a disturbing rise in cases. and we know again these are real numbers because of the percent positivity in the cases or the tests, rather, and the leap indicator but accurate one is the fact that hospitalizations and icu bed admissions are going up. those are accurate indicators this is real. >> let me bring in a fellow at the hoover institution. you were originally scheduled to join us at the top of this segment. i guess we were having some technical difficulties. i was hoping to have a discussion between the two of you. i'm glad we got that up and running. we were just talking about a rise in new cases. we're seeing a particular spike in some states, arizona, texas, florida come to mind. i know this is something you've written about. it looks like a lot of the new cases at least we're seeing

younger people, 20s and 30s. i know you have written about trying to reopen the economy by taking into account that risk varies by age. can you talk a little bit about how you think of the new increases right now, the fact you've got a lot of young people and how you think that should be factored in policy wise? >> well, it is a factor. i would just say that i think one of the things fortunately that we're seeing is that because it is a younger population thus far at least we aren't seeing a steep increase in deaths or even hospitalizations in some parts of the country, so i think that's a good thing. i do think ultimately this is going to be a story of risk assessment. people are going to have to figure out what is their risk tolerance, the amount they're going to have to take on, the people around them have to take on, and that clal clas i calcul to differ jurisdiction by jurisdiction. as we learn about this virus

hopefully we can deploy and use that information so we can help people make educated decisions whether they want to go back to the workplace or resume a more normal situation or not. because in the absence of that information that's why, by the way, testing is important, contact tracing is important. once we have all that information people can make a more educated decision. >> well, dr. roy, right now in all 50 states we've got some form of reopening going on so people can make a lot of those decisions that lonnie's talking about. so in terms of risk assessment what would your practical advice be to folks grappling with those decisions? >> yeah, these are realistic concerns. you know, from the public health standpoint we've been seeing all along that, you know, opening up the economy and public health are not two mutually exclusive phenomena. we can do both safely, systematically, making sure that the businesses, you know, have proper preventative health measures in place.

i just got my haircut today. it was phase two in the new york reopening. but you know what, they kept distancing almost i think every single person there including myself wearing masks. so this can be done safely and appropriately. and the other key, though, is messaging, steve. if you saw from the hearing every single health official there, the news was pretty serious. it was firm, sometimes grim, but it was consistent. they all said the same message again and again about testing, about preventative health measures, about, you know, vaccines. all these things are going to be really important but the message has to be consistent. and to dr. fauci's point he said i wear a mask for myself, for others and to set an example. that's what's key. >> yeah, and lonnie, i'm curious. i don't know if you heard it. we played that clip from dr. fauci talking about if you're young and healthy and maybe not at great risk for this he's basically making the point you could come into contact with

someone who is. and i think that's a piece of this and i'm trying to figure out from a policy standpoint is there a way -- is there a realistic way to keep the folks who are vulnerable protected and insulated from this reasonably -- you know, not to have that risk of exposure from younger and healthier people? can you have two things going on at once? >> certainly with respect to those individuals who are, for example, in long-term care facilities. so skilled nursing facilities, nursing homes, we need to be engaging in extra precautions to make sure those facilities are especially safe. that means restrictions on visitations, ensuring that staffing is consistent and we don't have staff necessarily maybe going from one facility to another, taking the coronavirus with them from one place to another. that is one thing that was really unfortunate in the early part of this outbreak in particular we didn't do nearly enough to protect our most vulnerable seniors. so that's one thing. with respect to the workplace, you know, people are going to

center to make educated decisions about, for example, if they have a high risk member of their household, if they have an older member of their household they will not be able to go back to work, go back to situations as they were before the coronavirus. and people are going to have to recognize if they have members of their household that are at higher risk they're going to have to take extra precautions. that's simply the new normal we live in now. >> and doctor, there also was that issue today that came up, dr. fauci saying a vaccine perhaps by the end of the year, early next year. what's your sense of that potential timetable? >> yes, dr. fauci said there are many vaccines being investigated globally, but there's one in particular that's going to be entering phase three clinical trials in july. that's next month. really promising. again, it's not going to be ready for prime time so to speak until next year, 2021. the other key, though, to remember speaking of vaccines, dr. redfield reminded us all

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welcome back. and as we've been saying right now president trump is speaking to thousands of young supporters at a mega church in phoenix, arizona. this while his opponent in the prejudice race, joe biden, is holding a fund-raiser with a vip guest. that would be his former boss, barack obama. and this is the first time the two have appeared together at least virtually since obama formally endorsed biden more than two months ago. >> what we have seen over the last couple of years is a white house enabled by republicans in congress and a media structure that supports them. that has not just differed in

terms of policy but has gone at the very foundations of who we are and who we should be. i am here to say that help is on the way if we do the work because there's nobody that i trust more to be able to heal this country and get it back on track than my dear friend joe biden. >> the biden campaign says this fund-raiser brought in $7.6 million. that would be the campaign's highest grossing event to date. and as obama makes his entry into the general election campaign president trump is accusing him of a serious crime. >> this idea they were spying on your campaign you've been asked before about what crime he would have potentially committed, but i remember you talking to -- >> it's treason. look, when i came out a long time ago i said they've been spying on my campaign. i said they've been taping, and

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welcome back. just over four months until election day former vice president joe biden is maintaining his lead in national polls. the average shows biden leading president trump by nearly 10 points now. at the same point in 2016 hillary clinton was leading by almost 6 points. and while the memory of 2016 still haunts democrats according to politico, quote, there's an emerging feeling that this moment is not like four years ago when trump shocked the world. trump is doing worse in the polls, has a controversial record as president and is facing a more popular opponent in biden that he did in clinton.

for more i am joined by joel payne, a democratic strategist and harry oleson. thank you both for being with us. joel, let me start with you. politico said democrats remember 2016 when hillary clinton seemed to be far ahead and lost, and they think right now is different. are you one of those democrats who feels it is different right now? >> well, steve, i have the unique position of being in brooklyn in 2016 for the hillary clinton campaign, so i certainly remember it. this feels different in this way. the poll you showed there that showed biden with the 10 point lead don't pay attention to the spread. look at the number in front of biden's percentage, it's the 5, which means it's over 50%, which i think is key because i think that suggests biden has more room to feel comfortable. also if you look at his likability numbers, his favorability numbers they're higher than trump's but they're also higher than clinton's four

years ago which again gives him more room to grow. so i think democrats have a lot of reason to feel more confident this time around. if this was the football game this is the first quarter but right now joe biden is in control of this race and trump is figuring out how to react. >> let me put basically that same question to you. do you feel trump is in worse shape now than he was 4 years ago, and if so do you see something that he could do or that could happen that could get him back in? >> i think trump is in worse shape than he was 4 years ago for so many of the reasons that you just heard. that hillary clinton was underwater on her favorabilities at this point. joe biden is at roughly break eon have and the president is a known quantity now. four years ago he was introducing himself. now people have had if you years to assess him and assess his record. and if you're only at 41% as an incumbent that's a really bad place to go, and people tend to

be on the fence, tend to decide to go against an incumbent if they're still on the fence. >> so do you see a path back into this for him? >> i see theoretical paths back into it. the question is whether he's capable of executing that. it was pretty clear when covid struck that he had an opportunity to show a type of empathetic leadership that he hadn't -- virtually every leader in the western world have seen their ratings go up sometime significantly during covid because they've been able to show that. trump hadn't. he's then botched the second chance to show empathetic leadership with the aftermath of the murder of george floyd. i think i can imagine him turning the race around or joe bidening down in a way that makes people think he can do the job. >> i'm curious how you think about the democratic coalition right now.

we're talking about that event going on in arizona where the president is. this is state of arizona democrats think they can get this time. big reason for that, you know, suburban phoenix, metro area, suburbs all around the country. it's big gains for democrats in the trump era. where do you see the coalition different and in a better position than it was in 2016? >> well, all over the place. let's start with african-american voters. we often think about working lass whites but there's a lot of african-american voters in the middle of the country who were not onboard with hillary clinton or not onboard she needed for a win number in 2016. you look at cities like milwaukee and detroit, hillary clinton underperformed with african morn voters. biden has the chance to do better because of the president's failures in courting african-american votes. we've seen in some of these specials that suburban college

educated women have long since evaded this president and left this president behind. so biden has room to grow all over the place, and trump keeps cutting off routes to more votes. and when you're in re-election mode, when you're an incumbent the idea is to add to the coalition, not subtract. >> across the country meanwhile protesters have turned their focus to removing monuments from figures of american history associated with racism. and last night police clashed with protesters trying to take down a statue of former president andrew jackson in lafayette park located across the street from the white house. this morning president trump threatened prison time for anyone who vandalizes or tries to take down a federal monument. >> we are looking at long-term jail sentences for these vandals and these hoodlums and these anarchists and agitators, and call them whatever you want. some people don't like that language but that's what they are. i will have an executive order very shortly, and all it's really going to do is reinforce

what's already there but in a more uniform way. >> and tonight fencing is once again being put up around lafayette park just like during the protests following the killing of george floyd. henry, the president here clearly seeing a political opportunity to make himself the defender of these monuments. there's a range of things that are happening right now. there are confederate figures being taken down. and you'll saes grant was the champion of a civil rights act in 1870s his statue was taken down, too, by protesters. we've seen movement on these questions of race away from trump. how do you assess the politics of this one? >> i think the politics are very difficult to assess at this time. in part because the people are going to make a decision based on trump versus biden not trump versus the protesters. i think it's pretty clear that there's a lot of sentiment that things tied to direct racism

like confederate monuments are up for discussion that they weren't up for a few years ago. i also suspect there's a very large consensus that figures who have imperfect records but were instrumental in advancing the causes of freedom such as george washington or ulysses grant, the general who destroyed the presidency and the president who presided over the reconstruction of the south, i think there's consent one might maintain those statues but the question for trump is whether he can turn gnat into an advantage for him. and i can't imagine that biden would be silly enough to try to endorse protesters defacing union generals and figures like washington and lincoln. >> yeah, joel, i'm curious about that. we showed some polling here the other day, this question of taking down confederate monuments, we now have majority

support for that in this country. that's a pretty significant change just in the last three years from charlottesville. when the president speaks out in defense of that there's a clear political vulnerability. i wonder as the discussion shifts, when you get away from non-confederate figures someone like ulysses grant, how should democrats be handling that? >> look, it's very complicated. it's wrought with a lot of peril, and i think henry stated it well. look, i think that the aim has been off on what some of the protests have been doing. i mean, i'm a history geek myself. ulysses s. grant has a very strong record as was mentioned before, teddy roosevelt in new york, there were thoughts about pushing back on his legacy of colonialism. i think folks need to focus in on what the key issue is here. the key issue is police violence. that's where it started. and i think as long as the protesters stay laser focused there and don't get distracted

by some of these issues that can become more complicated and make it harder to build allegiance and coalitions i think they'll be better off. i think what the president is hoping is that this is prayer in school, this is school uniforms, that this is gay marriage. that this is the culture war he can use to drive a wedge between democratic voters. i think most people see biden as a champion of those folks protesting in the streets but also being able to bring folks together for solutions that, you know, build coalitions and don't split them apart. >> all right, thanks to both of you for being with us. appreciate it very much. and coming up polls have closed in the commonwealth of kentucky in most of it. there might be a dispute in one part. we'll get to that. amy mcgrath, charles booker, both want to face-off against mitch mcconnell in november. only one of them will get to and we've got some results to show you. stay with us. and right now, is a time for action. so, for a second time we're giving members

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we've got to be prepared for this to last a long time. if you assume that you're out of work for nine months but you end up only being out of work for three, well that's great. but if you think you're going to be furloughed for three months and it lasts for nine, well that'll be emotionally devastating. so, we've got to prepare ourselves. tangibly and practically, as well as psychologically and emotionally. guess what, folks? it's an election night again. here we go. this is a covid era election. this is the kentucky democratic senate primary right now. the polls close in some of kentucky 6:00 p.m. eastern, some 7:00. it's a split time zone state. let me take you through what's going to happen tonight in some counties in kentucky. not all, but in some counties of

kentucky, they're going to report the votes that were cast today. folks who went out to the polls today. here's one county where we have results. these look like votes cast today. it's very, very few as you can see. the majority, the clear majority, the vast majority of votes in this primary look like they were cast by mail. those can still be coming in. if you postmarked it today in kentucky, your vote will count. it will take a couple days to get there, but it will count. so a lot of absentee mail votes will be coming. some of these counties, lexington, louisville, may not report anything out for a week. so what we can tell you is a scattering of same-day votes are coming in from some counties across the state. amy mcgrath ahead of charles booker with few votes in. if you're charles booker, louisville, his hometown, the biggest town in the state, that's a quarter of the vote.

we may not get anything from there in days. so louisville, lexington, that's number two. that's where the university of kentucky is. charles booker's hopes rest on those two counties. we may not get them in tonight. but if he can be competitive without anything from those counties, that could be a good sign. we will see. but now, joining me on the ground in louisville, kentucky, the heart of jefferson county, jack brewster has been covering this for us -- shaq brewster. shaq, one sort of mega polling site today. as the polls were set to close at 6:00, there was some drama there. take us through what went down. >> reporter: that's right, steve. at about 6:00, you had people literally running to the polls, people at one polling location in jefferson county was at the kentucky expo center. it's a large convention center, which mean there is's a large parking lot. apparently, there was a delay of cars getting from the parking lot and getting into the expo

center. and then voters getting to the door of the voting location. so i was there at 6:00, as you had a flood of people running with kids, with strollers, to go ahead and cast their ballot at 6:00 or shortly thereafter. the doors then closed. but then voters decided to stay. people banged on doors. they chanted "let us in, let us vote." about 25 minutes later after an injunction by a circuit court judge, those doors were reopened and 100 or so people that remained on the premises were able to come in and cast their ballot. outside of that, there was a relatively smooth day of voting. i know much of the talk coming into this election was on the idea of there just being one polling location in jefferson county. there just being one polling location in lexington, kentucky. the two largest cities, despite that, you saw smooth voting. at the location i was at, people were going in and out.

they were surprised how quickly it went. they were wearing masks, using hand sanitizer. there was some delays in lexington, apparently those lines stretched out to two hours long. but all in all, what the secretary of state said today, and remember, the reason why we had this influx of voting, it was an agreement between the democratic governor and the republican secretary of state. and what the secretary of state predicted on twitter is that there will be about 1.1 million people who would have participated in this primary. i believe that puts it about 32% of voter turnout, which is higher than many other primaries before. that's something the democratic governor will consider a success and something the republican secretary of state will also see as a success. steve? >> there you go, jeff. 1.1 million, about 670,000 when they did this for the governor's race. that's a big jump. shaquille brewster on the ground in louisville, kentucky. thank you for that. we'll keep an eye on this tonight if we get some more

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