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to "politicsnation." tonight's story, pouring gasoline on a fire. president trump and his republicans allies are trying to roll back health care coverage and toss peaceful protesters in jail to protect symbols of the past. the nation has set records for newly reported coronavirus cases three days in a row, the biggest spikes coming in southern states that supported the president in 2016 with parts of texas and florida reversing their reopening plans. the president's response has been to go after former president obama. asking the supreme court to dismantle the affordable care act signed into law by his

predecessor, even if it means americans could face medical or financial ruin should they catch the coronavirus. on policing, the president is vowing to veto a sweeping police reform board named for george floyd that passed the democratic house on thursday. the bill would ban choke holds and no-knock warrants and limit qualified immunity, which protects public officials when they break the law. republicans' own watered down bill is floundering in the senate. the president cans scelling a t this weekend. he claimed he staying in washington to enforce, quote, law and order and impose ten-year prison sentences on demonstrators who damage statues. as it turns out, even that wasn't true. the president spent the day at another one of his golf clubs in

virginia. the president's actions reek of desperation and cynicism, an effort to once again fire up his base as his reelection prospects plunge. new polling showed joe biden taking commanding leads in many key battleground states. that's where we start today. joining me now is senator kirsten gillibrand, democrat of new york. before i go into the politics of the matter, the handling of the coronavirus, we are seeing spike-ups in many southern states, particularly texas and florida, yet when we hear a briefing from this station, they're acting as if all is well, nothing to wore about, putting a rosie picture when we're seeing a big, almost

record-bre record-breaking on some days rise, at least thursday and friday, in some of these states on people found positive with the coronavirus. >> i think both president trump and vice president pence are detached from reality. i don't think they're focused on facts at all. i think they're using happy talking points to mislead the american public again. people need to wear masks, they need to socially distance and listen to the doctors and the experts. people's lives are at risk. for our first responders showing up to work every day, risking the lives and the lives of their family members, we owe it to them to do our part. we all have a duty to stop the spread of covid. >> now let me get to some senate business. the congress, the house, has passed a sweeping police reform bill. you've worked on this issue in your own state of new york with

me and others and you worked on it around the country. where are the prospects in your mind of the senate coming with a bill that somewhere reaches where the house bill is, where there is actual penalty and actual criminality attached to police that break the law? >> well, unfortunately, mitch mcconnell has no intention of letting the senate come together on a bipartisan basis to actually pass common sense police reform. cory booker and kamala harris put together a very robust reform bill that bans choke holds, mandates body cameras, keeping data on officers who continually abuse their position and use excessive use of force. so we have the solution and we have answers but mitch won't let us vote on that bill. he would only allow for a republican-only drafted about that was really limb pited in se

and didn't ban choke holds or any of the major reforms we just talked about. unfortunately politics is the name of the game for mitch mcconnell. i think the senate under mcconnell is broken and he's unwilling to let us do our jobs. the house bill is strong and i wish he would let us votin the hou -- vote on the house bill. these families deserve justice. i talk to emily garner about her father and what she wants do. she wants accountability and she wants justice. we owe it to them. i'm going to continue to fight for the families who have lost someone to excessive force and police violence. until we have a more just system, we should continue to pro protest, speak out and speak loudly and never give up.

>> you don't think we'll see senator mcconnell bring forth a bill that has any substantial meaning in terps of trying to deal with the problems that we've seen people marching all over the country and we've been marching in new york for years and continue to march all over the country now with the employed case and the other cases. you think mitch mcconnell is determined not to come with a bill and we may not see a bill come out in the senate in this session. >> i don't think so. if he wanted that, then we should have started out with a bipartisan bill from the beginning with a bipartisan working group, like we've done on other major reform issues. if he was unwilling to set that up, it was his way or the highway. i have to say his bill was inadequate. it didn't do the basic things of banning choke holds, systemic reform, accountability, didn't do any of the things we were asking for and let alone change the standards for when these

cases can be brought so justice can be done. >> and i'll talk about about the national march later in the program. let me ask you in your own state, the southern district where william barr, the attorney general, has reached into the southern district and fired the u.s. attorney there. your reaction and how this is going to play out. you and senator schumer are two of the senators that have some kind of influence on who is nominated, even though you have opposite or opposing party president. how do you feel about what is happening in the southern district of new york? >> attorney general barr continues to play politics from a position where he should not be doing so. it is outrageous that they fired u.s. attorney for the southern district who was doing his job and investigating those around the president and trying to replace the attorney general --

the u.s. attorney with somebody who wasn't qualified, didn't have the necessary background. so both senator schumer and i have the ability to approve or disapprove, it's called the blue split process. lindsey graham said he's going to uphold that process and both senator schumer and i have said that nominating the current sec chairman is inappropriate and we would not give our blue splits for that nomination. >> thank you for being with us, senator gillibrand. meanwhile, the coronavirus is ravaging some states in the country, including texas. joining me now is the mayor plano, texas, harry laross

larosseliere. >> yes, you are. >> tell us what is the shape in your city ain terpms of people being found positive with coronavirus. >> it's very disconcerting. we see the rise at an alarming right. plano is near dallas. a third of the emergency rooms in dallas are held by covid-sek people. so it's very concerning and we really need to take action to stop this and slof down the outbreak. >> do you think the governor should shut the state back down?

he's closed the bars, but do you think there ought to be another shelter in place and close the state back down? >> well, crisis management and crisis leadership requires prudence, decisiveness, flexibility and humility. the governor did say he had opened the bars too soon, he admitted that. we do think that -- i along with eight of the other top ten mayors in terps of size of city in texas have asked the governor to maybe take more stringent actions. we're encouraged that he's open to have that dialogue. that's what leadership is all about and realizing sometimes you have to correct the course. i think there's more measures that needs to happen in order to blunt this and put us in a better place. >> when the state was opened up, some are saying that a lot of citizens became too carefree too quickly, not wearing masks, not dealing with social distancing and that may have added to the

increase in positive coronavirus findings. and then when you look, mr. mayor, at the fact the president of the united states will not wear masks and others are flouting it, do you think that the example of the president and others are also problematic in trying to get people like you to get people in their city to say even if we work toward edging you some kind of opening, you must be responsible and you must realize we are in a pandemic? >> yes. so we've preached about personal responsibility from the get-go. and it makes it difficult when you don't have a consistent message. that's why here locally our message in plano has been who do you care for, who do you love that you're willing to make the sacrifices for, staying at home as much as possible, absolutely wearing a mask when you cannot. reverend al, my mother is 86 years old and she lives in new york. i want to come see her so

desperately. i haven't seen her since early march. this is the person -- she's an example of someone i'm willing to experience some discomfort. so i think if we appeal to our citizens in terms of their families, friends and loved ones and neighbors, this is how we get over it together. it requires all of us to really look at one another and realize that kindness is a strength, not a weakness. putting on a mask is not giving up your freedom, it's the freedom to love the people you care about and making sure that you are safe for them and they are safe as well. >> personal responsibility. people preach that until they don't. thank you, mayor of plano, texas. we mentioned the u.s. broke its record for new daily coronavirus cases this week three times, including on thursday, the same day the justice department filed

it's brief with the supreme court to strike down obamacare. joining me is ken miller, former spokesman for the republican national committee and democratic strategist tara g goddell. how in the middle of record-setting days of coronavirus being found at record numbers of being positive, does it make sense to you as a republican that the administration, the trump administration, which is republican, decides to file in court against obamacare when people people over the last three or four months was an obamacare act away from total desperation in terms of their finances and ability to deal with medical challenges? i cannot hear tim.

let me go to tara. we'll get his sound straight. tara, same question to you. does this make any political sense? clearly i think as a moral outrage and a disgrace but politically what is the play here in terms of the timing and the severity of going after obamacare now when we're looking a t at an uptick in assassinates. >> -- in states? >> let me back up. trump has been working to undermine, sabotage and undercut the affordable care act, also known as obamacare, since day one. that was the top priority for his administration and he has

continued that. he cut the marketing budget for it by 90% so people wouldn't know about all of the benefits and features and when there's an enrollment period came people could get it. he's joined lawsuits against it. all of this led to destabilizing the market, which has weakened obamacare. some of what he's done has been effective unfortunately. for democrats, this is an opportunity because it ties direct live back to his handling of the covid-19 pandemic, which has been abysmal. he had warning from his own administration, from multiple figures in his own administration that he hand picked had warned about this and mishandled it and now he's continuing in the middle of this pandemic as it's getting worse and we're getting spikes, he's continuing to undermine something that will give coverage to people. >> tim, i think i have you back. >> yeah. >> how as a republican do you

see this and how as a republican can you defend this or do you defend this, the president going after the obamacare as we're seeing an uptick and many used the affordable care act when they had medical challenges for them or their loved ones? >> it's hard for me to defend a lot these days as a republican. i'm with a group called republican voters against trump. we put out an ad this week that said trump gave up. it's about the coronavirus. he's given up. he doesn't care. he's decided he couldn't figure out how to fix it. he didn't like the reviews he was getting so he decided to move on. so this -- you should look at this decision, the supreme court decision in the context of this is a president who is trying to pretend like the virus is over. so he's just trying to do normal republican things that make republican rank and file voters

happy. he's not worried about people dying of the virus, he has no empathy for them and no ability to manage the crisis. that's why the group i'm with is trying to get rid of him in november. hopefully we can get back to having an argument over ideology after that. >> let me show you something, tim. recent polling has former bide up 7 to 11 points in most swing states. what does he need to do to hold on to those leads in your opinion? >> i think everything that's he's doing right now is exactly correct. he cannot get pulled to the left unnecessarily. he's very well positioned right no with swing voters and you can see all these former republican voters who are voting for joe biden and they're giving testimonials on why. as long as he stays what he d's

doing, donald trump is doing everything for joe biden. joe biden shouldn't be do any more than he's doing right now. donald trump right now is writing his own gravestone. as long as that's happening, biden should stay the course. >> tara, same question to you but also asking you will his selection of a vice presidential running mate be something that could be disappointing or that could be exhilarating for the base voters that has stood with him and may be responsible for his big poll showings thus far? >> well, in response to your first question, i think that joe biden is doing a great job. you don't want to overplay your hand. when your opponent is causing problems for themselves and as my colleague said, hanging themselves and you want to let them do it, you don't want to interrupt anyone's implosion

politically. but at the same time, i do think that the biden campaign and they are doing it, they want to pull no punches about covid-19. the fact of the matter is that 120,000 americans are dead and there is all kinds of evidence that donald trump ignored the signs, ignored advice, ignored counsel that would have helped to mitigate the spread of this epidemic. so that's number one. so i think they knew to continue to hit him on that and not be afraid to not pull punches, to hit him hard because it's the truth. and then also i think the democrat being party writ large as a whole the party needs to take ownership of this issue and show leadership on this issue. with respect to a running mate, i've worked in politics for -- i don't like to say a long time but it has been a long time. you're always going to -- you're never going to have a perfect candidate, right? you're never going to have someone who is going to please

all of the people all of the time. you want to please the people who brought you to the dance, right? you want to dance with the ones that brought you. so the candidate that does that is the one that joe biden should pick, that does the most of that. >> don't pick another -- >> what would be the right pick? give me one time. >> i like tammy duckworth. but just make a safe pick. that's my advice to joe biden. no need to take any risk right now. >> thank you both for being with me. it been mo it's been more than three months since 26-year-old breonna taylor was shot to death in her own home. while we know the identity of the officers who killed her, there have still been no arrests made. when we come back, the status of a long list of cases involving police killing unarmed black americans. first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories.

richard? >> thanks a lot, rev. breaking news out of mississippi to start. the state's house of representatives devotvoted 85 t to clear the way for the confederate emblem to be removed from the state flag and a commission will work to create a new flag that will be voted on in november. as of this hour, over 2.5 million confirmed cases of coronavirus. more than 45,000 in just hours of new infections. the mayor of miami dade has ordered all beaches in the county closed for the july 4th weekend. that also banned gatherings of more than 50 people. the european union are reopening their borders next week but they are saying no to united states

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we want to update you on the individual cases that have sparked this movement and continued to push it forward. tragedy started in louisville, kentucky where delayed justice and sustained protests around the death of breonna taylor. none of the officers involved in her shooting death have been arrested, nearly four months after the botched raid that took her life and own one has been fired from the department.

he's appealing the decision claiming he was terminated before a full investigation was executed. but the police chief in tucson, arizona has offered up his resignation this week after video surfaced of 27-year-old carlos ingram lopez tying in police custody in april, made to lie face down during his arrest for disorderly conduct. officers used their body weight to pin him down according to video from the scene. the video showed lopez at one point crying for water and at one point telling officers, "i can't breathe." >> in wilmington, new york, officers were fired this week, after being caught referring to black people with the antiquated term like negro and insisting the department was beholden to

black pro tessers with one saw saying, quote, he feels a civil war is coming and he's ready, adding that, soon, quote, we are going to just go out slaughtering them expletive blacks, i can't wait, god, i can't wait. end of quote. then there's george floyd, cameras not being allowed in court when hearings begin over his death a month ago this week on friday. they unanimously voted to remove the city charter replacing it with a new police department to provide for community safety and violence prevention. but the case that broke through this week predates all of these stories, as we look at protesters just moments ago in

aurora, colorado. the family has planexplained the was anemic and became cold easily, hence the max. and in the execution of his arrest, he was placed in a choke hold and injected with a tranquilizer, dying just a few days later. colorado's governor has directed the state attorney general's to reexamine mccclain's death whil the officers involved have been reassigned to nonenforcement duties due to, according to authorities, threats against their lives. when we come back, more on the push to take fatal maneuver out of the police repertoire. this is "politicsnation." s "pol. some people say "dress your age."

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a police officers from a queens, new york precinct who authorities say used a chokehold hold while arresting a man last week is the first to face charges under a state law banning the maneuver. joining me is the district attorney of queens, new york, melinda katz and aaron cobb, the mother of eric garner, whose son died after the use of a choke hold in 2014. the law was signed a couple of fridays ago by governor of new york andrew cuomo. miss carr and i were among those present. this law came out that friday and within a week you made the first arrest under this law. your feelings about the law and your feelings about why it was important the d.a.s now follow what has become new law in the

state of new york. >> first of all, thank you for having me, reverend sharpton. his carr, always good to see you again. charging decisions are never easy in any case. they must be made without any fear, or any favor, steady, unbiased decision making is critical, especially when emotions run high and emotions are rightfully raw in this country ap thend there's a huge discussion on how we do policing here in the united states of america. i believe public safety and police accountability are not contradictory. i actually think they complement each other when you're talking about approaches to criminal justice reform. if a community feels police actions and conduct will be accountable and they will be held to be accountable for their behavior, i believe communities will feel better protected and stand side by side in combatting

crime. it's an extremely important part of criminal justice reform. i want to say to miss carr i think it is amazinamazing. as a mother, i cannot believe the heart break that it is to lose a child and it's been since years since your son died. when the cameras were on and when the cameras were off, you stood tall with so many beside you. today is the crystallization of the movement for joan genergenet also as a result of your son's death and the death of george fla for identification. >> since one when eric died in a choke hold, one of the things that you have wanted and all of groups including national action network league but what other groups wanted was to see a law, an eric garner law that would ban choke holds. and then once it was signed, we

wanted to see that it was going to be followed. now that there is has been an arrest by d.a. katz, how do you feel and what do you say to people around the country as we look at the federal government in terps of the u.s. senate not passing so far a choke hold law, even though the house of representatives has? >> yes, good evening, reverend al. good to see you again. yes, i think that -- i commend the d.a. for taking such quick action because the only way that a law is going to work is if you hold those who are responsible and hold them accountable. if they're not held accountable, they're going to keep on doing what they're doing. a law means nothing unless you hold the person accountable.

and i see that she is really doing her job. i fought for five years to get this law passed and now that it is passed, i am so glad that, you know, it is being upheld. i think the nation should follow the new york state lead because, hey, we don't need any more choke holds, we don't need any more deaths from choke holds or any more terrorization from choke holds. this is why my son, he cried on the ground saying "i can't breathe." 11 times he said "i can't breathe" and they refused to let him up. same with george floyd. the man was crying for his life, begging for his mama, and the man kept his knee on his neck. it is just horrible. so we have to get a national law, not just the state law but a national law. and we have to have district

attorneys like district attorney katz who told their feet to the fire so they'll know that when you put someone in a choke hold, you're going to think whitwice because you know it's illegal, you shouldn't do it, your life is not threatened, why are you putting these people in choke holds? >> some would say this is an anti-police law but i think it's a pro police law because i think many policemen feel that it was already a policy and it was not enforced and bad police make good police look bad. and you stood up and it really sad to have to say a d.a. had to stand up against the possible attack of police unions when in fact you were standing up for what is right for the citizens that elected you, including law enforcement. >> you know, reverend, when i charge a case, i must look at it -- i'm fact based. i have to have an even hand, i

have to be steady. it can't be about emotion, it can't be what you're afraid of. it has to be what the facts showed. it is the law of the state that we cannot put someone in a choke hold when make ariana graning a. it's been against the policy of the nypd for 20 years now. at the end of the day, it was not criminal sized. th -- criminalized. this is the exact behavior they intended to criminalize. it is especially necessary when emotions are running high. there is a national movement about policing. we have an abundance of shootings here in the city of

new york. we have the civil protests which i think have done an amazing job of bringing a realization across the country that things need to happen, it can't just be talking about it, that we need to have this movement actually create new laws and go somewhere with that. >> all right. >> and again, it amazing how people like miss carr and the movement across the country has kept the focus on this. i'm very proud of that, that we just did our job. >> i have to leave it there. i also want to give credit to all of the groups that stood with miss carr and all of us to make the climate for this law and governor cuomo for signing it and senator andrea stewart and of course the speaker and the assembly for making this a reality. melinda katz and gwen carr, thanks for being here tonight.

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. welcome back. the federal government has doled out trillions in response to the coronavirus pandemic, including $270 billion in direct stimulus payments to americans. due to carelessness the trump administration more than $1.4 billion in stimulus money was sent to dead people. meanwhile millions of americans who are eligible for stimulus payment never received one. and according to the center on budget and policy priorities, those americans getting left behind are disproportionately people of color. joining me is connecticut state

treasure sean wooden. treasure wooden, how do you, as someone that is the elected fiscal office of the state of connecticut explain the federal government under the trump administration sent dead people checks, stimulus checks and you have some people that didn't get one check yet? >> yeah, this is just another example of the incompetence, quite honestly, at the federal level. we've seen it with the response to the pandemic as it relates to health concerns, we're seeing it as it relates to taking care of our nation economically and this just underscores the need to have competent leadership in washington. >> now, i want to switch subjects because talking about competent leadership, you recently called for better leadership from wall street on the issue of racism in the absence of leadership from the president.

what should corporate america be doing differently? >> so thank you for raising that. this is -- this is a special moment in america. i call it our modern day emmett till moment where more americans as a result of watching the death of watching george floyd on video, it's a modern moment where our nation together can see the outrage and the pain that many blacks have been suffering from for decades. i've called for corporate america to take action and to get off the sideline, both this is as a state treasure, i have a front row seat to wall street. i understand the power that corporate america holds and the unique role that they have played. there have been instances where they've been constructive when we look at the anti-apartheid movement in south africa, the

economic boycott contributed. when we look at north carolina and the so-called bathroom bill and the response of corporate america, that contributed to eliminating that. and right now my call to corporate america is to get off the sidelines, to be engaged, to use your special power and privilege in society and play a productive role in long-term, sustainable change. we have to address police reform but it goes far beyond that. we have to look at economic disparities, health care disparities, housing disparit s disparities, educational disparities. these are all things corporate america can play a constructive role in. as a treasure and the father of two black boys, i want them to do that for the future of our country and for our economy. >> i also have heard you address that they should not just give fill and thr tld throw -- phila

and how they do business and how they manage the money, they should set the examples i think it is a mistake to treat this as a moment to just write a check and be absolved of 400 years in american history of not sufficiently addressing systemic racism. and so we have to do more. and for corporate america in particular, we have to look at this as the business, economic and financial crisis that it is. an economist from goldman sachs is on record as saying if we do not address systemic racism in our country, we will harm our economy and our financial markets. and so this is the message that i'm delivering. and to your point, it's twofold. you have to look in the mirror. in my conversations, there has been a great response to my

outreach to ceos. >> good. >> those conversations have been about looking in the mirror and starting there and saying what can we do better within our corporations from our corporate boardrooms and c suites to our pipelines programs. >> i'm going have to leave there it. i'm out of time. >> okay. >> but that's a great message. thank you, connecticut state treasurer shawn wooden. >> thank you, reverend al. >> up next, my thoughts. stay with us. stay with us like way more vanities perfect for you. nice. way more unique fixtures and tiles. pairing. ♪ nice. way more top brands in sinks and faucets. way more ways to rule your renovation. nice! on any budget, with free shipping. wayfair. way more than furniture. you're first. first to respond. first to put others' lives before your own.

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today people are marching and protesting around the country to take down confederate statues. it would seem to be unthinkable in other countries, to be ex-tolling, exalting and praising and using as symbols that you would want your children to look up to. flags of people that tried to overthrow your government, and flags and statues of people that fought to keep people enslaved because of the color of their skin. that is why as we continue to fight to protect the right to vote and continue to deal with policing, martin luther king iii are mobilizing many to come on the anniversary of dr. king's march on washington august 28th, because we made a lot of progress in the 57 years since that march. but we have a long way to go. and we need to say to the national government that the senate is now sitting around,

playing with the police reform bill. and we need to say to those like the president that would defend these statues of confederates who are guilty of treason. the only reason they're in history is they wanted to overthrow the government and keep people slaves. we need to say to them this is not what makes america great. making america great is to live up to what america is supposed to stand for. we will make it great. not again, but we will make it great for the first time for everybody. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, my colleague richard lui picks up our news coverage. rush rush gas-x maximum strength. it works fast. relieving pressure, bloating, and discomfort before you know it. so no one needs to know you've got gas. gas-x

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and a very good sunday to you. thanks for stopping by and spending time with us. it's a very big sunday here at world headquarters in new york city for you. breaking news from the white house. the trump white house breaks from business amid the coronavirus pandemic and cancels some events. we'll tell you why. the president is at his virginia golf course today as records of coronavirus cases are reported across the nation. some of those outbreaks are in political battleground states. florida and nevada, for instance, reporting their highest one-day of coronavirus cases. but that is not stopping one airline from announcing a full return of flights soon.