and very good evening to you. i'm richard lui, at here at msnbc. thanks for spending your evening with us. the news tonight. at least four states reported a record increase of coronavirus cases today. in a single day, florida, south carolina, nevada, and georgia. and the total number of cases in the united states has topped 2 1/2 million according to the latest nbc news tally. more than 125,000 americans have died so far. the country set a record yesterday, adding nearly 46,000 cases in a day. large spikes in florida and

texas led governors to tighten restrictions in both states in hopes of slowing the spread. and today, we learned the trump campaign postponed the vice president's campaign events, scheduled in arizona and florida this week, quote, out of an abundance of caution. the president spent part of his saturday golfing in virginia. his original plans were to spend his weekend at his club in new jersey. that plan ended up being changed. saying he had to stay in washington to maintain law and order. there is a 14-day quarantine in new york and new jersey, where the president, originally, was planning to go, as well as connecticut. imposed on travelers with hotspots, including arizona now, where the president was earlier this week. and we begin our coverage tonight, in arizona. the state has seen the highest per-capita rate of coronavirus cases in the last two weeks. msnbc political reporter vaughn hillyard is in phoenix at the state fairgrounds for us, tonight. how are arizonans, vaughn, reacting to these numbers that are setting new records?

is it same, old thing? or are they reacting in a different way? >> i mean, these numbers are increasingly disarming, richard. and when you go around, there is a complete acknowledgment, for the most part, of these numbers rising. at the same time, as that turned into concrete action taken by most folks in whether it be my life or neighbor's lives, or the folks out in tempe. i don't think we have seen enough change, frankly. the governor, on thursday, here, made it very clear. urging folks to stay at home. but what you are seeing on these roadways on this saturday is the traffic like it was june of 2019. or hopefully, like it will be in june 2021. but, on this saturday, here, in june of 2020, you saw a record number of cases. single-day cases. more than 3,500. you also saw the news that there were 44 more arizonans who passed away.

a record number of hospitalizations. a record number of icu beds in use. and a record number of ventilators. i'm going to do this and count how many days i have said that over the last two months. and i keep saying it because that trajectory continues to go up, richard, and that is where we now see ourself in the state of arizona. seemingly, unable to control the spread and with a government that doesn't have a good understanding of the spread. the one important other number i want to point out is that 23.9%. that is the positive rate of tests that come back positive. in other states, including even texas and florida, that number is in high single digits or just in that 10 to 15 range. but we're at almost a quarter of these tests coming back are a quarter. which means that is incredibly high, in that there is far from any control of covid, here, in arizona. >> vaughn, then, the reaction if you have such high positive results, you're looking at a strain on the hospital system. how is the hospital system doing

there? >> they're at near capacity. generally, across the state, hospital system, we're at 87% capacity. but the state did set up this surge line, essentially, if hospitals have hit capacity, they can have patients sent elsewhere. across the state from yuma to mesa, there are individual hospitals that have hit capacity, and have already had to send patients elsewhere. there are also new wings being set up in hospitals. percentage is also important because not only is an indicator that more people are likely going to become sicker and need medical care at hospital. but it's also increasing the demand on testing because, now, folks are realizing they may be asymptomatic but they may have it. or they're going to work because restaurants are open. retail locations are open. i talked with martika earlier. she goes to work every day.

i talked to another young woman, jasmine, who was waiting in line to a test earlier. she is a waiter. and so, those folks are being exposed to myself, my crew team, jim, and chris every single day. and that's why testing is so crucial here, in this state. i want to let you hear directly from dr. bullion. but she is also family physician here and she was testing folks today over in scottsdale. take a listen to part of our conversation with her. >> we keep adding on testing slots, daily, to try to keep up with demand. what we're hearing from our patients, around arizona, is they often can't find testing slots, in a timely manner. so sometimes, people have to wait multiple days to even find a testing slot. and that, of course, it's not ideal because we need to start contact tracing, immediately. >> richard, there are folks. it was 105 degrees here today. there are folks, community groups, family physicians, groups like quality health, who

are doing their best to test as many as they can. but what you are seeing here in the state is that folks that want a timely test and a test response within a couple of days, it is incredibly hard to get that. and the matter is, what can the state do to expand testing at such a dire moment as this, richard? >> vaughn, so what are officials doing, either local or on the stateside, in terms of looking past the hump? because you look at that curve that you just showed us. it is straight up. and i know that many arizonans is are hoping to get flat out, and then go down. >> the next two weeks, the governor acknowledged, should be worse than what we're seeing here, standing here right now. you said what is the state doing? quest laboratories, that is the major lab here in the state. to give you an idea, they process about 80% of the covid tests, here, in the state. right now, they are only able to process about 12,000 tests a day. and what has happened is the

demand is exceeding that. and so, that's why there is such a backlog. the state did work with the federal government. they are bringing in a new machine into the state that's going to be able to process an additional 3 to 4,000 every single day. but that's not coming until a week or two into july. in the meanwhile, that is where there is some widespread acknowledgment, it comes down to personal responsibility. folks doing masks because right now, the governor has resisted taking any steps like closing restaurants or retail businesses at this point, richard. >> nbc's vaughn hillyard in arizona with the very latest. vaughn, thank you so much for that. like to welcome my panel. anita kumar. david jolly. democratic strategist basil. and dr. patel. doctor, i got to start with you on this as we have done too many segments starting on this very word. new record-breaking numbers.

about 4 or 5:00 in the afternoon, i think we were reporting four states setting yet another single-day record. the united states, by the end of the day, we could have another record-setting day. and you heard vaughn hillyard really expressing the exasperation in states like that. this is their first hump, if you will, going up that mountain. and it would seem that it looks very dire for the united states, yet again. this could be a headline from a month ago. >> there's no question, richard, that, not only could this be a headline from a month ago. but it really could have been prevented. i think that's what you have to take away from this. you know, unlike new york, when this was really all unfolding. or in seattle, washington, the tacoma area, we didn't even have testing that was reliable, if you recall. but now, we actually have testing and strips and all the things, the swabs, all the things we need in place. they're just not in the right place. and, on toch of thp of that, we

waiting until people get sick. we are making room in icus and hospitals. in texas and other states, they're setting up hospitals in stadiums. but doing something as simple as asking everyone to wear a mask in a public place, and practicing physical distancing seems to be something that many of these governors just don't want to do. >> anita, we now have the briefings. they are not happening every day. but we have seen them being revived coming from the task force. what are they saying to the very questions that dr. patel was just bringing up to us? >> well, the trump administration has done -- is doing what they've been doing, which is letting the states decide what to do. and that's why you've seen, all over the country, different rules on masks. on whether businesses should be open. what are essential businesses? and what aren't? so, you know, obviously, each state is different. but there hasn't been, from the top down, you know, a consistent message on what needs to be done. you've seen the president

talking about other things. he's, largely, moved onto talking about the economy opening up. talking about the protests. this social unrest in our country. and, you know, talking about election issues. it's the vice president who -- you mentioned the briefings. there's really only been one, yesterday. we haven't seen a briefing like that, in quite some time. and so, you see the vice president starting to talk about this again. but still, yesterday, he was praising the administration, and sort of downplaying some of these hotspots that are coming up. >> david, what are you seeing in the -- in the changes happening the last 24 hours? the schedule of the vice president. now, not going to states like florida because of the concern of the increase in cases. we have, also, on top of that, by the end of the day, we're going to have a lot of first evers, biggest-ever sort of statements coming out of the headlines, based on covid, alone. >> we are. and we are continuing to lack leadership coming from the white

house. in its most generous terms, it's confusing leadership, right? yesterday, mike pence was actually defending not wearing a mask, and saying the constitution allows people to not adhere to public-health advice. and yet, at the same time, he is cancelling his political rallies because it is an acknowledgment of the outbreak. i think what we often see from -- from this white house, in moments of crisis, is they lag far behind where the anxiety of the american people are. i think most of the american people realize we are -- we are right back where we were, in early march. and the only people who don't feel it are those who are willfully ignoring it because they think there is some bravado in ignoring the public health advice. and so i think the white house is a week or two weeks behind the reality of what is actually happening, on the ground. and the question is will there ever be an acknowledgment of the reality? and, frankly, a call to begin to roll back and potentially close

down again. or is this white house so focused on november, and donald trump needing to frame the narrative around the economy and these distractions over law and order that he would rather be talking about. we remain a nation, fundamentally, without public-health leadership in our political ranks. we have it among the doctors like dr. patel. the best thing president trump and vice president pence could be doing is echoing the message of our public-health experts. but they are not doing that, for their own political reasons. >> home state, basal, since 3:23 p.m., that's when they set a record today. this -- this speed is only increasing, over time. is this president not going to be able to avoid what is very clear, a lot of his states that he wants support from right now, aren't seeing the right side of the curve when it comes to covid. >> yeah. and what's interesting about that is, there was a poll that

came out some weeks ago that said voters tend to trust their governors, more than they trust their president. particularly, around the issue of dealing with the covid virus. and that's important because, as we look across the country, we see there's so many democratgovf blue states, governors all over the country have decided that they want to adhere to the advice of the doctors and scientists. and be more authoritative than their own. the problem is that you had so many governors siding up next to this president, trying to remain on his good side. trying to make sure they did not cross him. they were really fearful, in my view, of being able to sort of adhere, again, to the good science. and to what medical professionals and public health professionals have been warning

us about. and unfortunately, a consequence of that bad leadership is that you have this surge in -- in -- in cases. and, yes, does that affect a lot of the states that the president won? yes, it does. and i think that, to david's point earlier, a lot of the a anxiety that's being driven because of the uncertainty. and, if you add the economic uncertainty, on top of that, you are seeing a lot of people who probably would have given or have given the president the benefit of the doubt, in many instances. starting to pull back on that support. and say to themselves, you know what, on many other issues, i might have been with this guy. but right now, i'm worried. i'm worried about my life. i'm worried about my family's life and health. i am worried about my economic future. and i don't see the leadership necessary to bring us back to some normalcy. >> well, if it is the governors, there are at least 29 of them, as of yesterday, where cases are increasing. and a lot of the residents in those states, looking for some

leadership, if it's governors. dr. patel, thank you for your insight. appreciate it always. anita, david, and basil, we'll see you very soon. sticking around for us, later in the show. coming up, mississippi may soon be the final state to remove a confederate symbol from its state flag. here is the mayor of laurel, mississippi, talking about the state flag, earlier this week. >> i don't apologize for being emotional. i have lived through some things with this flag. and as they told dr. king to wait, time for waiting is over. -excuse me. uh... do you mind...being a mo-tour? -what could be better than being a mo-tour?

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confederate emblem. it would be the last in the country to do so. but the state's house and senate passed a major vote today, moving forward with debate. the governor, reversing course from just a few days ago, has now said he will sign the bill, if and when it lands on his desk this weekend. for more on how this all happened, i am joined now by kayleigh skinner. she is the deputy managing editor for "mississippi today." wow, i know that, probably, mississippians are going will this actually happen? give us the details on this, kayleigh. >> sure. it's been a crazy few weeks. but, like you said, today was a really historical day because they have opened that door, and started the process to maybe changing the state flag. what they did today, to be clear, they did not change it. but they passed a resolution that's going to allow them to take up a bill, that would allow them to remove that confederate emblem from our state flag and put a replacement on there.

>> what is the crucial development that happened, within the last 24 to 48 hours? >> i think lawmakers have seen a tremendous amount of pressure from, virtually, every industry. i mean, huge names, like walmart, the ncaa, big ceos have come out and said this is something that needs to change and we don't want you to put it to a ballot. we want lawmakers to make the decision. so i think it was a matter of whether or not they had the votes. and it seemed like, today, they thought they did and they went for it. >> now that it has changed, the governor, governor reeves, also switching his view on what he'd like to do. saying he's going to sign it. those who do sign it, those who do support this, do they face political peril, on the flip side? >> i mean, i think lawmakers are always going to have people who argue that this flag is heritage and history. and if you get rid of that, you are trying to erase that. but there are a lot of people

speaking up. and i think this probably has probably even started because we have a huge protests a few weeks ago. and of course, the state flag is the most common example of that. so lawmakers are doing this because they say it's the right thing to do. >> you heard that statement, just a portion of it, from the mayor of laurel. every single word had, like, a thousand pounds to it. and what he was telling us and what we were hearing. is that the common reaction for mississippians, for african-americans, in mississippi? >> i think so. even today, when they passed this resolution, people stood up and gave standing ovations. there were tears. people, black and white, democrat, republicans, hugging. i think it's something people have been waiting on for a really long time. and this is the first time this is a conversation that seems to have real momentum. >> we'll see the weekend is not over. thank you so much. kayleigh skinner with

"mississippi today." thanks for spending time with us. >> thanks for having me. >> you bet ya. i want to talk more about this and the history that is unfolding in front of us right now. and let's join -- be joined now by texas congressman, al green. he is also a member of the congressional black caucus. representative, what a day, huh? >> it is quite a day, and thank you for having me on. it's a wonderful thing to see what's happening in mississippi. lay, though, late, though it may be, it is better late than never. what a child has reminded us is taking place. george floyd's death is literally changing the world. we have seen products change their brands. we've seen the nfl change its stance. he is, literally, changing the world with his transition. my hope, however, is that we will do much more than has been done. >> what do you think this means, then, for other movements,

across the country? you're aware of the story coming out of missouri right now. with one institution that -- one store, i should say, that has many products with the confederate symbol. and there's been large protest, and we should probably call it angry protests. >> well, i think the american people are speaking. the american people have come to reali realize, now, that they have been deceived. once they saw the 8 minutes and 46 seconds, it made all the difference in the world. it was an edmund pettis moment. on their way from montgomery, alabama, to selma. and when they crossed the edmund pettus bridge, they beat them all the way back to the church. once the world saw that, the world could not tolerate what it saw. and president johnson was able to pass the voting rights act of

1965. this is what we are experiencing, again, with george floyd's death. an edmund pettus bridge moment. and we have the opportunity to make some great, significant change. one of the most significant things we can do, sir, would be to establish a department of reconciliation. we have not reconciled our differences. the -- the evidence is that of the flag coming down and people cheering. we've survived segregation, but we didn't reconcile. we survived discrimination but we didn't reconcile. it's time for us to have a secretary of reconciliation. have a strong truth component, in this department, so that we can reconcile history. and then, let's put it aside, all these other things that are separating us. and come to terms with each other. a department of reconciliation, with the secretary reporting directly to the president of the united states of america. other countries have done it. we, too, can do it.

>> now, how much do you see this costing? how much do you see in this department, representative? >> well, this department would have undersecretaries, just as other departments will probably have undersecretaries. secretary of labor has undersecretary, secretary of defense, secretary of commerce. secretary of reconciliation. i have, in the resolution that i proposed, that this department would be funded with a minimum of the equivalent of 10% of what the defense budget is. we always fund the defense budget, which means this department will always be funded. this is a long-term process. movements ebb and flow. but if we institutionalize this, we can, then, deal with institutionalized and systemic discrimination. this is the way forward, for the country. not just for a portion of it. not just for a moment. but for all time. this is a great opportunity for us to seize the moment, and make the difference that can make the difference, for the rest of our

lives. >> representative, as you understand, the police reform bill, that was passed by you in -- in the house. it was bipartisan. we had three republicans that did vote with you. but it is expected to stall in the senate. and the senate's bill does not look like it's, also, going to move forward. do you see a compromise, anywhere, in between -- between the two bills? >> here's what i see. i see the american public having an opportunity to weigh in. i think that the senate bill has shortcomings. i do believe that it's better to mandate that you not choke a person to death than to incentivize a person not to do so. it's better to mandate that you get rid of these no-knock laws. so i think the american people have to continue to weigh in. we are where we are right now, in both the house and the senate, because of events. we could have done these things many years ago.

but it took george floyd, breonna taylor, and others, i might add, to bring us to this moment. so, i think the american public has to continue to weigh in. this is the way forward. public pressure makes all the difference in the world. and i would beg that they will continue to peacefully protest. peacefully. peacefully protest. it makes a difference. >> and one of those -- very quickly, here. utah's republican governor might be one of those ideas, moving forward. where it's going to happen on the state level, instead of on the federal level. >> well, we have many ideas that are being proposed. and i think doing things at the state level does have certain advantages associated with these actions. but they cannot supersede an action that will bring the entire country together. we've had some states that are part of the avant-garde but it's

better -- dealing with discrimination, we'll look at issues, not only related to policing but, also, discrimination and housing, in healthcare, discrimination in all the other areas of life, too. this is what has happened in other places. and, by the way, it would also deal with these statues. in germany, you don't see any statues of hitler. some of them would go to museums. others may be displaced in many ways. but there is a sensible, reasonable way to do it. and this department of reconciliation is the framework for getting it done. it does not step on anybody's other issues. if there are persons that have commissions, a commission can be a part of this. there are other ways to get things done at this undersecretary level. but we need the highest efbl reporti level reporting straight to the

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as americans continue to protest against systemic racism and police brutality, a steady stream of police-invoked deaths of black americans continue to come to light. protesto prote protestors took to the streets in aurora, colorado. all three officers involved have been transferred to non-enforcement capacity. and a special prosecutor has been appointed to investigate the case. joining us now from aurora, colorado, is msnbc's david gura.

and, david, what is the latest on the ground? and what precipitated this spike in interest in this specific case? >> well, let me start, richard, with what's happening here on the ground. the aurora police department is. you see behind me here, police officers in riot gear. just about ten minutes ago, they came out from both directions here, having given warning to the crowd they were having illegal demonstrations, as they put it. been protesting since about lunchtime today. over here, to my left, you can see what's being called a violin vigil. elijah mcclain was a violin player. he was a massage therapist. a number of strings players have come here today to play. and you see the group behind me here. they formed human chains, between these police officers and me, again, as these officers begin moving us away from the police department, which is just over here to my right. you ask what sort of brought new attention to this case, it's the

killing of george floyd. elijah mcclain died in august of last year. and now, there's been renewed interest in his case. efforts in the city of aurora and the state of colorado as well to look more closely into it. the governor, jared polis, announcing there is going to be independent investigation into the circumstances that led to his death. and that's what many people here are protesting. the fact that, yes, that's happened but they want more answers, still. they want those three police officers, who confronted elijah just about a mile from where i am standing here now, to be prosecuted for their actions. the district attorney so far in this county has declined to do that. richard. >> hey, david. what are the details of the controversial elements of this story? how he was apprehended, potentially. >> he's a young man.

23 years old. described as different. he went out on 10:30 that evening to pick up some iced tea at a convenience store near his home. he was walking down the street and someone said he looked suspicious. his family said he had anemia. someone thought that was suspicious. they arrived, pinned him down, used an illegal chokehold on him and injected him with ketamine. he was taken to a hospital, and died shortly thereafter. there's that. three body cameras fell off of those officers, as the police department says. we don't have video of what transpired during this incident. we have audio of what took place. and with amazing awareness, elijah mcclain pleaded for his life. and that has become a real rallying cry here in recent weeks on social media, around the world, has those words have been played on social media

accounts around the world ritualered. >> and we will see watch to see what the governor decide in colorado. msnbc's david gura, live for us on the ground in aurora, colorado. very active group protesting against the investigation so far. thank you, david. trump administration suffering another loss. this time, federal appeals court says the executive branch broke the law when it diverted $2.5 million from the military, to the border wall. $2.5 million from the military, to the border wall they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance. i just... when i... let's try again. everybody back to one. accident forgiveness from allstate. click or call for a quote today.

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a federal court has ruled president trump does not have the authority to reroute military funding to pay for the construction of his border wall. the decision came, just days after trump visited parts of the wall in arizona. touting its success. >> we won. we're building it. fully funded. i could build numerous walls, with all the money i have. fully funded. >> according to the decision from the 9th u.s. circuit court of appeals panel. well, that diversion of $2.5 billion did violate the constitution, and is unlawful. let's welcome back political white house correspondent, anita kumar. david jolly. democratic strategist basil smikle. does this open up the step, now, for it to move forward to the supreme court? and will they take it? >> yeah. well, the justice department hasn't officially said. but you can bet they will

probably appeal. that has been their practice these last three and a half years on a whole host of issues. including all these immigration issues. so, remember, last year the supreme court said that, while these appeals were taking place, that the administration could keep using it. keep using that money. and so, they will continue to do that. if -- if this is appealed and goes forward, it's going to be months before this is decided. so the president is going to keep using that money. and keep building that wall. he has promised 450 walls by -- by election day. >> and so, what we're hearing basil, is that only three miles or so of new wall has been built. but the money's still going to be there, as anita's reporting. right? it's not going to be removed. so the president can continue his effort to complete more portions of the wall. >> well, i'm still wondering how much of it mexico has paid for, at this point. doesn't look like they paid for one dime of it. which was, obviously, a promise, by the president, that they -- he would get them to do that.

and i think americans have woken up to the reality that we are paying for this wall. and it's unnecessary. and so, he can spend as much as he wants to complete what ever portion of the wall may get built. but i imagine, because of this court ruling, and because congress has the power of the purse and there was a violation of that. of congress -- congress's sort of dominance or supremacy over -- over -- over the purse. that he is going to push ahead. but, in some ways, it, also, looks like a loss for him. because he is having to go -- essentially, go this route and violate the law, to fulfill something he said on the campaign, that clearly will not be fulfilled. so i take that as a loss, and the truth is, i think more and more american people see it as a loss. >> david jolly, maybe, if you're the president, it's a win. just looking at the last vote

from the supreme court as they were looking at an emergency request by the government to allow construction at the moment. 5-4. they said yes. keep on going. so it might be a win for the president, if you will. >> well, to basil's point, the president's going to continue on building the wall. and spending money, in violation of the constitution. richard, this goes back to what many people will remember was the longest partial government shutdown in history, last year. and the congress expressly prohibited the president from spending money on the wall. that was one of the points of impasse that led to the government shutdown. and because the congress said no, both, the lower court, district court, and now, the appeals court, the 9th circuit, have said they have decided the case on the merits. the only two case -- or the only two courts that have heard the case and decided on the merits, have said that the president may not do this. but, as anita said, the president's team raced to the supreme court last year, got a

5-4 decision to say, until the supreme court decide whether or not they are going to take jurisdiction, any decision by the lower courts are on hold. so i would simply say to my republican colleagues on capitol hill. remember, a few years ago, when barack obama said he would do whatever he wanted to because he had a pin and a phone? and we all lit our hair on fire and said the president doesn't have that authority. that's exactly what donald trump is doing in this moment, and republicans are falling completely silent. >> another story affecting the white house and swirling around the white house, anita. is that -- it's coming out of the "new york times." that russia, secretly, offered militants, afghan militants, bounties to kill u.s. troops. and that the white house, according to the press secretary, they were unaware of this intelligence. what are you hearing, anita? >> you know, they're pushing back and as much as they have

been these last few years. the president has constantly said, look, i have been tougher on russia than anyone else. and has kind of made that his mantra, the last three and a half years. and different stories keep coming up. and the white house has really not said much about this story, at all. and they've kind of -- that he have kithey've kind of just pusd it off and are talking about other issues. >> is that probable here, david jolly? u.s. intelligence saying there are bounties for -- to kill u.s. troops, including russia. >> that would have been at the top of the president's daily briefing on security. absolutely, without question. kayleigh mcenany was not telling the truth when she said that trump, nor pence, were briefed on this. we have to treat this story as grave as it is. and so, i say this in the context of, if what is reported is true -- if what is reported is true -- donald trump has betrayed the nation, and he's betrayed the military. to know that vladimir putin has

put a bounty on the head of u.s. service members, and he has done nothing to address that. to challenge vladimir putin. if anything, he's rolled out the carpet and invited him to the united states. we will find out the truth, within this reporting. it's now been confirmed by other sources as well. this is not simply one more blip on the map of donald trump's malfeasance in office. this is a betrayal of the nation, and it needs to be referred to as such. >> quite a scoop coming from "new york times." basil smikle, i owe you one. we got to get back to colorado with breaking news we've been following there. thank you so much, david jolly, as well. anita kumar. and again, thank you basil. >> we want to get back to david gura in colorado. it was already quite noisy earlier. you have more developments, david, what are you hearing? >> yeah. so these police in riot gear did manage to clear this park in front of the police department. in front of the city hall as well, richard. they have moved the protestors and the violin players who showed up tonight here have moved as well. so that violin vigil continues

and many of the folks who came out here to honor the memory of elijah mcclain have lit candles. they have moved over beyond police officers, again, to honor the memory of elijah mcclain. as we saw it here, there were a number of protestors starting around lunchtime. one on the corner in front of the police department. a black lives matter took place by city hall. some students had a protest. and there was some warnings from the police department, richard, that protest as they saw it had become an illegal demonstration. there was a sound weapon that could be used to disperse protestors. that hasn't been used yet. and you saw police backtrack as the night went on. they allowed protestors to remain. just about 30 minutes ago, they declared an illegal demonstration once again. and the police officers you see behind me, came out in a straight line, and

systematically, very slowly, moved protestors off the grass that we are standing on. a number of people crying out. there were children here, in fact, there were a lot of people who musicians who came with their violins and cellos as well. elijah mcclain was a violin player. it was something that was important to them. things here sort of at a standstill. the police line behind me as not moved in the last few minutes. you can see over my right shoulder the line continues, the musicians just beyond that. if i look at city hall, there's some protesters that remain who came for the vigil tonight. it seems somewhat static right now, but as you said, in the last half hour or so, things did crank up a notch and we saw the police come in and move those protesters off the lawn i'm standing on right now.

>> david, what is the story line when it comes to community policing and the aurora police, what that reporting is in the history of that town and how they've worked or not worked together with the community? >> reporter: richard, many folks i've talked to have said this is a police department that's been beset and plagued with problems for a long while. it has an interim chief of police and that's not a new story. they have cycled through a number of chiefs of police through the last few years. there was an effort by the city of aurora to have an independent investigation. that had to be scuttled a few months ago when it was found out the person who the city hired to do the investigation was himself a police officer. now the city says they're starting over once again. they talk a good game to be frank about there being reforms. i spoke with the mayor, mike coffman, a former congressman in colorado. he said his top priority is police reform. but there are a lot of skeptics among the folks who came out today that that's going to

happen. some legislation was very quickly passed by the statehouse and signed by the governor on juneteenth, so just a few days ago, doing away with qualified immunity and a number of choke holds. but consensus is so much more still needs to be done. this is a police department that still needs larger reforms yet, richard. >> david, could you put aurora in context of colorado? most folks will know denver quite well, but they may not know aurora. >> reporter: yeah. this is a city that's the 54th largest municipality in the country. so it's a sizeable city in its own right, right next to denver, colorado, the capital of this state. it's the third largest city in the state of colorado. it operates kind of oddly. it's in two different counties. that adds a kind of complication when it comes to how it's governs and who the d.a. bringing charges would be, for instance. but it is a large city in its own right separate from denver. the two mayors stress that they do work together, but it is a place that has a commute in its own right. >> we're going to start a new

week tomorrow. what are residents looking for, those who are protesting today, for instance? what are they looking forward to in terms of decisions that might be made and progress, milestones that might be coming? >> reporter: richard, i mentioned that legislation signed into law by the governor. most people think that's a good step forward. they think the independent investigation is a good step forward as well. yesterday the police department here in aurora put the three officers who were involved in the incident involving elijah mcclain put them on new jobs. they moved them off their jobs. a lot of people say they want justice. that's not justice. those three police officers need to be prosecuted. that is the clarion call from all of them i've heard today here in aurora, richard. >> you remember the early reporting you were part of when we were following the spikes in covid cases across the country. this is a headline we're watching in 29 states across the country, including colorado. how is that being handled in the protests that are happening

right now? this other layer of covid increasing cases and what city managers need to be concerned about as these protesters are walking in the streets. >> reporter: consensus seems to be, richard, that the state handled this pretty well to begin with. some restrictions have been loosened, but having spent about seven hours here at this protest site today, by and large most of the protesters that i've seen have been wearing masks throughout their time here. social distancing is something else entirely, of course, as it is at events like this. a lot of people packed in togeth together. by the police department, people were really packed in. but it is something here that protesters here, people in colorado are taking seriously. by and large, richard, people i've spoken with have said that colorado has handled this pretty well. as things open up, there's still an air of caution. testing is available. people are getting tests, and the governor has indicated while he has a desire for the country to be open again, he's going to do it in a careful way.

>> david, we've got a minute left here. can you just review for us the scene? we can hear in the background around you a lot of activity. >> reporter: yeah, i'll just set the scene once again here on the way out, richard. we're here at the municipal center. a lot of government buildings in aurora are here. this was the site of many protests today. a major protest here was broken up by police just about half an hour ago. all the police you see around them, several dozen in riot gear, pushed protesters out of that area. they've fenced it off once again. i can see them over there. just beyond was a violin vigil in front of city hall. they've broken that up. there was a human chain, an effort to keep that violin music playing. those musicians were moved by the police as well. i don't know if you can hear, but that music continues. now the cries that i've talked about for prosecutions have turned to the degree to which they've terrorized the community. there were so many people here tonight that by moving them,

that does nothing to, what you were speaking about a moment ago, the relationship between residents in this city and the police department. >> msnbc's david gura reporting live for us in aurora, colorado. this as protesters are out protesting elijah mcclain's death, which happened a year ago. we'll be watching that story very carefully here. david gura also will be on the ground tomorrow anchoring from there and reporting from there on this very story. david, thanks a lot for that. that wraps it up for me this hour. i'm richard lui. you can follow me on twitter, stra instagram, and facebook. let me know what you're thinking, and i'll get back to you. but for now, a very good night from new york. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. almost done. what do you think?

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